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Offline moka

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« Reply #185 on: June 04, 2012, 09:02 »
Thank you for all that. You are a walking encyclopedia of Peregrinuia.

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« Reply #184 on: June 03, 2012, 23:40 »
So very sad that she chose this nest site again.
There was talk of boarding up the nest ledge on the east side of the Radisson a few years ago. We were told that interfering with a nest site was prohibited by law.
Is moving the chicks not considered interfering with a nest site?
Just wondering.

Interfering with a nestsite generally means damaging or eliminating the option of nesting at a historic site.  Outside of urban environments, there are great pains taken to prevent this - think of all the trails along the east coast that are closed to hikers/climbers during the nesting season.  In urban areas, when birds show an interest and/or a nestbox is installed and the birds use it, projects like ours try to ensure that the building owners/managers understand what it means so that there aren't problems in the future.  Doesn't always work though - think of the Kodak building last year (or was that the year before?).  Sometimes the sites are lost permanently, hopefully just short-term as we hope will be the case with the WW birds 2010 nestsite.  Sometimes the birds move themselves and after a few years, the site isn't considered "historic" and therefore not so vital for the project's efforts.  The University site was like - after T-Rex moved, no one has spent any time there even when there was a nestbox.  The ledge on the east side of the Radisson can't be modified without requiring as much access/maintenance as the putting a nest box - and it would be just as dangerous for pedestrians, traffic and buildings nearby.  We would like them to not nest on this site but we don't want to interfere with the ledge for all its other purposes - pair bonding, site defense, courting, meals, etc.  Its just the nesting we would prefer they did elsewhere, but if they insist, then it is their choice.

Here in Winnipeg, we like to keep nestsites that are working and watch the birds to find others we think might work.  Cowboy's and Kate's site last year wasn't a successful site either.  Neither was one site at the U of M or the one at the Hotel Fort Garry.  The Basilica site was one we wouldn't have encouraged either if Burnsie had returned again.  The Brandon Tower site has real potential, so despite a bad year last year, we are hopeful.  We have hopes for some new sites we are working on, but time will tell if any peregrines think they are as appealing and can be successful at these sites.

This year's WW site is a site that isn't considered a successful site - we have lost 9 out of 11 eggs during incubation and 1 after hatching that had suffered so much trauma during incubation, it didn't have a chance to survive.  Given a number of security issues and grave concerns for chick safety as they get older and particularly at fledging time, moving the chicks in this case is considered in the best interest of the all the peregrines - adults and chicks - at this site.  We did in fact have plans in place to prevent Jules from nesting at this location but we couldn't get access before she be began laying - yet another security concern.  Eggs are removed from nestsites if there are problems and suitable facilities are available to incubate safely.  More common (a number of times in the last couple of years in Alberta as examples) chicks/fledglings are moved to new locations - sometimes hundreds of kilometres away - when the situation at their nestsite is deemed detrimental to their health, development or safety.  This is the same thing, we just aren't moving them to a captive-breeding/rehab facility or into the nest of unrelated peregrines.

Hope that answers your question ...

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« Reply #183 on: June 03, 2012, 22:22 »
So very sad that she chose this nest site again.
There was talk of boarding up the nest ledge on the east side of the Radisson a few years ago. We were told that interfering with a nest site was prohibited by law.
Is moving the chicks not considered interfering with a nest site?
Just wondering.

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« Reply #182 on: June 01, 2012, 11:28 »
I'm extremely happy for these two, even though, they nested in that darned place....geez!!!
All we can do is wish them well and hope for the best! 

I agree, too bad they won't take one of the condos built for them. :-\

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #181 on: May 31, 2012, 22:52 »
I'm extremely happy for these two, even though, they nested in that darned place....geez!!!
All we can do is wish them well and hope for the best! 

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #180 on: May 31, 2012, 09:07 »
Still can't tell if all the eggs have hatched but I'm going to think perhaps they might have by this morning, just seems like it is all fluff today.  I'm hoping to maybe get a closer look in the next few days but its a tough location to access so we'll have to wait and see.  If I can get to the nest, I'll see if I can tweak camera angles a bit.  Keep your fingers crossed

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #179 on: May 31, 2012, 08:43 »


Maybe she's a Costco shopper  :o

Thank you for the updates ..... . looking forward to hearing the final chick count.


Love it! Good one. ;D

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #178 on: May 30, 2012, 21:59 »
Caught a couple of meals so far today and it does look just like two chicks so far ...
Thought Jules was going to give herself a hernia with one meal, it was huge!  :o

Maybe she's a Costco shopper  :o

Thank you for the updates ..... . looking forward to hearing the final chick count.

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #177 on: May 30, 2012, 09:05 »
Looks like we had another hatch at 0721h this morning.  Looks like there are three here but it could be four - they are so small (not smaller than any of our others) and like all young/small chicks they are piled in on one another so hard to tell one from another, particular with our current camera angles.  Right now, Jules is off the nest and the chicks had a bit of a squirm and protest and have now collapsed into a chickpile ... oops, Mom's back and everyone is shuggled back underneath.  This site is in pretty deep shade at this time of the morning, so its typical not to see the chicks until it warms/brightens up a bit.

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #176 on: May 29, 2012, 13:19 »
Caught a couple of meals so far today and it does look just like two chicks so far ...
Thought Jules was going to give herself a hernia with one meal, it was huge!  :o

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #175 on: May 29, 2012, 10:39 »
When you band the chicks here will you move them to a better location?
Last year you moved the one chick but I can't remember if this was the location it hatched in.

The plan is to move them again for their safety as they get bigger and more adventurous/independent/active after banding age.  Hopefully all goes well until then!!

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #174 on: May 29, 2012, 10:02 »
When you band the chicks here will you move them to a better location?
Last year you moved the one chick but I can't remember if this was the location it hatched in.

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #173 on: May 29, 2012, 09:08 »
Chick number two hatched over night (definitely pre-dawn).  Hard to tell if a third chick hatched as well as the chicks are using the egg-siblings to sprawl on already and of course, our camera angles are poor at this site.  Saw a meal this morning that was short but seemed to go well - not a great view as Jules mostly had her back to the only camera that can actually see the nestbox in its current location.

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #172 on: May 28, 2012, 23:45 »
Yup, at least one chick hatched as of about mid-day today...  
That's great news! :D Are they at least in a location that would give them a bit of shelter in inclement weather, TPC? ???

Shelter isn't too made at this stage of the game though a driving rain will get them as wet as the Brandon birds because of the angles and openings ... There is some shade from the sun which isn't bad ... if we get sun again ... ever ...  :'(

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Re: West Winnipeg - 2012 / May
« Reply #171 on: May 28, 2012, 20:11 »
Yup, at least one chick hatched as of about mid-day today...  
That's great news! :D Are they at least in a location that would give them a bit of shelter in inclement weather, TPC? ???