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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #395 on: April 01, 2010, 17:28 »
So is Jack hanging around lots now Carly???I hope so. I think there are a few males that would gladly take his place at Residential ,if he lets them :) :)

He's here more than at TR this week for sure but he was there mating with his other wife this afternoon!  He spent all morning with my mom though and I caught that shift change at about 1:23 today.  Once she was done eating and all settled back in the box - off he went to the other site!  I'm going to go down on the weekend and spend a few hours observing to see what I can see.  Mathew doesn't think there are any eggs there yet and that makes sense as he was here more this week. 

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #394 on: April 01, 2010, 17:12 »
So is Jack hanging around lots now Carly???I hope so. I think there are a few males that would gladly take his place at Residential ,if he lets them :) :)

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #393 on: April 01, 2010, 12:45 »
I must have missed alot over the past weekend because I think incubation may - may have begun here.  I waited an hour outside (on my lunch break) and witnessed 'a shift change!'.  Mom has been laying in the nestbox all morning  ;)  And it's hot here today, t-shirt weather so no need to keep eggs warm unless there were 3 at the very least - I"m hoping.  Will have to come down on the weekend to spend more time observing!

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #392 on: March 30, 2010, 12:34 »
fingers crossed Carly

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #391 on: March 30, 2010, 11:42 »
Good news here today.  Jack and mom have resumed their attempted nesting activity - since yesterday anyway.  She's back in the nest box and this time he's patrolling the perimeter instead of taking off on her.  He's feeding her too and she just flew to the condo rooftop and he flew over to mate with her.  So we're back to where we were last Monday before the whatever we didn't see happen happened.  We'll see what happens!

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #390 on: March 27, 2010, 11:27 »
Thank you TPC, I will do my best and thank you for the pointers on what to look for.  I know what you mean about the malar stripes, Mathew and I had that challenge with Jack photos the other day - in one photo you would have sworn it was another bird if not for the band number!

 I wish the darn cam worked, that would be a good indicator but in the mean time I will go through old photos.  Thanks again TPC.
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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #389 on: March 27, 2010, 11:22 »
Specific shapes of bird parts (nice scientific wording I know) isn't an accurate descriptor for anything, so I wouldn't include that in your identification criteria.  The peregrines can do so many things with their feathers and posture that it is really impossible to get a handle on their shape and use that for identification.  Size is something different, particularly when you are in the field, you can get a sense of size in relation to things and other birds, but things is better, as they don't change.  So for example, he looks bigger in the nestbox, that's a pretty good warning flag.  My suggestion would be to go back through photos and webcam images and look at Angel and look for things like Princess' head patter, the breadth/depth of the white on Trey's chest, Trey's black cap, Princess' speckles etc. Don't look at the pink/salmon coloured wash on the breast though, that changes through the season.  Sometimes you can look at the width of the malar stripe, but that can change depending on how the bird is sitting/looking.  Try to look at images where the bird is in different postures too - and in different locations and look for relative size in the box, on this sign etc.  My question about the male at the Radisson is based on those kinds of assessments - and considering your familiarity with Angel, you are probably right, its not her - peregrines tend to get lighter with age, not darker so that is your first warning flag.  Now break it down, feature by feature.  

Oooooo, homework for Carly  ;D  Lucky Carly!!

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #388 on: March 27, 2010, 10:58 »
Here is my other question:  I have for the past few days been wondering if Angel is really Angel...not just because I saw brown on her but because she seemed different somehow.  She seems darker than Angel normally is and a bit smaller.  Now I will be honest that I've not seen her up close in person like I have seen Jack and he's got some physical attributes that are quite noticeable from the ground not to mention he's banded so that helps.  And can I just say that Jack from the ground and from directly across the ledge - as compared to the cams is different.  The cam really distorts some things, well our cams do.

Yesterday I was watching her from my window at work and I kept thinking she's somehow different but in the end couldnt' put my finger on it.  When I was folding my laundry last night it finally came to me, a week ago she was bottom heavy, you know how they get when they are going through mating and egg laying and this female wasn't bottom heavy.  It just hit me like a flash and I could see it clearly in my mind.  Sadly I couldn't see her legs to see if they are bare and given another female unbanded has been photographed in the area - I can't rule out anything.

Would the stress of defending the territory affected her somehow and she'd not be errr...swollen there ?  Sorry I know that sounds strange but I don't knwo the proper biology to describe it.
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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #387 on: March 26, 2010, 16:50 »
Well both falcons were on site today - most of the day.  Mathew reported that Jack went over there too and mated with TR mom as well so things are back to normal after a few days of weirdness.  I guess whatever happened threw them off for a few days but today was much better.

Saw a few mating sessions, some chupping iin the nestbox a few times and saw him bringing her food as well.  As soon as he'd leave she'd take off down towards the lake though.  I had her on the condo today and from my office window I could see her pretty well but it was so cold and so windy I couldn't get a look at her legs to see if they were indeed bare.  I don't know something about her just seems different..can't put my finger on it yet but I will!!

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #386 on: March 25, 2010, 18:29 »
First time in a week I saw them together this morning, they had a quickie on the condo and then she went to eat - saw her backside and saw ...brown mixed in with the black??  That was a shock.  Both flew off in separate directions again and that was that.  Saw one or the other today but never together at the same time and other times - the site was desserted.  It's been that way since mid week last week.  

Don't fret about the brown, some birds just keep the brown longer than others - Jules had more than I'm used to seeing last year and we know she was at least three last year so all the juvenile plumage should have disappeared.

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #385 on: March 25, 2010, 17:24 »
Many thanks for the updates, Carly. It sounds as if things are very confusing at your site. I hope everything is okay with Angel.

Please keep us updated. I do miss being able to watch the cam at this nest site.

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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #384 on: March 25, 2010, 17:18 »
Where to start?  After our rooftop visit last night - I am more perplexed than before.  After last Wednesday - things have changed alot here.  It's been a bit like a ghost town as far as peregrines go.

We stood on the rooftop last night for an hour until the male showed up, he basically stared at us staring at him for awhile and then he took off.  He did call for his mate but no one came.  No eggs in the box but we couldnt' see over the lip of the box..safe to say that after the past few days there is nothing as no one was guarding the site at all.  

First time in a week I saw them together this morning, they had a quickie on the condo and then she went to eat - saw her backside and saw ...brown mixed in with the black??  That was a shock.  Both flew off in separate directions again and that was that.  Saw one or the other today but never together at the same time and other times - the site was desserted.  It's been that way since mid week last week.  

The male looks like Jack to me, did a photo comparison and his stripes, everything lines up and he had a black band but couldn't read the numbers.  He's pretty big when you stand across from him I must say.  Female, she never showed up in the 1.5 to 2 hours we were there until we hit the ground again.  Then she showed up alone and when I did see her -I thought she's not my girl.  

It's like everything stopped suddenly and they show up to eat, have a quickie and go.  Mathew says it's strange at his site too..so we keep watching.

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Ontario / Etobicoke - Sun-Life Building - 2014 / Jack & O'Connor
« Reply #383 on: March 25, 2010, 14:07 »
Sun-Life Financial Centre
3250 Bloor Street West, Etobicoke, Ontario


webcam: www.peregrine-foundation.ca/Web_Cams/Etobicoke/index.htm

website: Sun-Life Centre Peregrine Home Page

The nest is on the east tower, on the southeast face of the building on an 18th floor ledge.

Resident Pairs & Offspring
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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #382 on: March 23, 2010, 06:22 »
 I've had reports of sightings of possibly up to 4 falcons in the territory including one report of two tiercels having an aerial battle last week further in the territory from a long time CPF watcher.

Tomorrow after work Frank and I will be going to a nearby building to the top (with special permission) to see if we can get a look at the birds and the nestbox.  Some strange things have been going on the past few days and we're not sure now if Jack is at both sites or we have a new male possibly.  I personally saw three falcons in the territory on Friday and thought I was mistaken until I went to the sportsman show and learned of the other reports. 

Might be nothing but you can't ignore reports from separate people especially when they are seasoned birders..unlike myself who is an amateur!  I only watch the nestsite and can't see what is going on in the rest of the territory so I wouldn't even realize if something happened several blocks out. 
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Re: Etobicoke - Sun-Life - 2010 / Jack & Angel
« Reply #381 on: March 17, 2010, 17:13 »
Angel has spent the past two days either in the nestbox or velcroed to the side of it.  I can't see her when she's in the box but Jack has been coming in to visit and then I can hear them both chupping so I know she's in there.  It's usually now she starts laying her eggs so we will see...well we won't see cause the computer needs fixing to view the cam.