Manitoba Peregrines > U of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta
U of Alberta - 2009 / Damon & Radisson
The Peregrine Chick:
--- Quote from: carly on April 16, 2009, 14:02 ---The other day I was reading back into the archives for my site because I wanted to know how my pair came to the site. Apparently my Angel was also not the tidiest person back in her first year, in fact the comments back then were similar to ours here last year..she was a very messy girl!!! She used to jump right into the nestbox with her lunch and pluck away and basically was surrounded by feathers and bits of birds while she dozed with her chicks!!! Obviously this must be a 'kicks in later' behaviour :D
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If not, I could lend Bev my "toy" ... ;)
The Peregrine Chick:
George and Weezie will view it the same way they would if their nest were blow off a tower or cliff-face. A little puzzlement and then deciding on the time of the year and how much energy they have left, they will do what is in their best interests - and in that I mean, their health and the health/welfare of their future chicks - this year or next. It was the same with Trey & Princess last year - they knew best and refused our offer to foster two chicks at the Radisson.
Who knows, George and Weezie may be able to use the time to find a new site (they will do something if they don't nest again) that will no come in conflict with other ravens, peregrines or anything else - keep in mind that at this point, everyone who is going to nest in the area is in the area on nests. They will be able to replenish their personal stores and try again next year. Might mean the difference between living and coming back next year.
Everyone likes to say "if people weren't involved" - well if people weren't involved, George & Weezie could both be killed trying to protect their eggs - so too could one or both of the peregrines, ravens are not small birds and anything can happen in territorial disputes regardless of species. Without both of them, the eggs/chicks are (all or most) doomed because one parent can't do it all, you've seen that already. The other side is that people are just as much a part of the ravens' environment than anyone/anything else. So look at the humans as just a nasty windstorm that destroyed George & Weezie's nest, to them there really is no difference. The difference really only makes a difference to us. So whether you agree with the decision or not, its been made by us rather than the peregrines. There is no way to say what is the right decision because we can't see the outcomes from all the possible scenarios. This decision might be the best for all concerned - no injuries and no deaths to any of the birds. Distressing to human viewers but all the scenarios would have distressing parts - the peregrines and ravens battle over the next couple of weeks, reducing all the birds' ability to survive/thrive; ravens continue to nest but non of the eggs hatch or some hatch perhaps because of the stress placed on Weezie; peregrines have to nest elsewhere, not as secure and more stressfull and potentially that will impact the number of eggs, their condition and the chicks' survival in the first couple of weeks; cam is moved to the peregrines (if it can technically be done in time) and we lose sight of what is happening to G&W except that everytime someth "black" is brought as a meal or when the parents suddenly bolt off the nest and there is sound and fury off-camera; George & Weezie have to continue to battle the peregrines as all their chicks continue to grow in order to keep them safe and fed; need I go on ... lots of human distress for y'all, a day/year in the life of peregrines and ravens in the wild.
Hope for a quick resolution to this dispute, human involvement and all, because it doesn't look like George and Weezie are going to win the battle for this nestbox. They will probably however win to fight (and nest) another day/month/year.
carly:
So now that we may potentially see Radisson back on cam in the near future, any bets as to whether or not she's learned house keeping 101 while she was away on sabatical??
The other day I was reading back into the archives for my site because I wanted to know how my pair came to the site. Apparently my Angel was also not the tidiest person back in her first year, in fact the comments back then were similar to ours here last year..she was a very messy girl!!! She used to jump right into the nestbox with her lunch and pluck away and basically was surrounded by feathers and bits of birds while she dozed with her chicks!!!
Obviously this must be a 'kicks in later' behaviour :D
ballywing:
Yikes....well I think our human emotions are what separate us from these creatures we love to watch. - This is such a learning experience for all of us, and the 'goings-on' in the lives of these birds - I'm quite sure - affects us humans much more, and for much longer than they affect the wildlife we're agonizing about. (Emotionally)
We're bound to have differing opinions on what should be done or not done. And thru the past couple of weeks, some opinions have changed, most of us are completely torn. There's no winner in this - if the ravens had been left alone, they may have all been killed, or a peregrine may have been killed or injured. I guess weighing the pros & cons, this may have been the best way to handle the situation, though it is very very sad for us to watch, as we've 'humanized' George & Weezie and take every event in their lives so much to heart. Hopefully all our beloved birds will now survive and move on and hopefully we can too .. ;D- til the next crisis of course. :P
bev.:
And on that note , I will say nothing,
I sent you a pm CArly.
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