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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1251 on: June 19, 2012, 10:09 »
No worries SuzieQ, waiting for eggs to hatch and for chicks to fledge are tense time here on the Forum  ;) and often the conversations become more abstract and holistic which generally elicits a wide variety of responses.  And from time to time its always interesting to hear other world views and perspectives.  Soon the Radisson chicks are going fledge and their world view is going to change everything ...  :)


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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1250 on: June 19, 2012, 09:57 »
Sorry I got everybody all up in arms here - with my comment, I was just trying to inject some humour!

Though I don't participate often, I've been watching the cameras and reading the forum for 4 or 5 years - I'm well aware of the wild nature of these animals....really wasn't intending to get everyone riled up.

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1249 on: June 18, 2012, 23:05 »

These birds are born to fly. You will soon have the privlege of watching the parents teach the kids how to negotiate and hunt. And you will experience the breathtaking natural progresession of their lives..
 Some will die and some will live. This is natures way.
I am grateful that I have been and will continue to be a part of this wonderful ride.
We don't have to like all of the outcomes, but we must accept them and move on, just as the falcons do. They are far more pragmatic and accepting than we humans.


Very well said bccs!!   :) 

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1248 on: June 18, 2012, 23:03 »
RCF, did you capture this for propserity?  Please, oh please say you did.

Will you check??   Approximately : 9:00 to 9:05 .....    can ya check please :-*

Sorry, I missed that but sure wish I hadn't.  :D

I might be able to find something  ;)

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1247 on: June 18, 2012, 23:00 »
RCF, did you capture this for propserity?  Please, oh please say you did.

Will you check??   Approximately : 9:00 to 9:05 .....    can ya check please :-*

Sorry, I missed that but sure wish I hadn't.  :D

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1246 on: June 18, 2012, 22:15 »
I've been following this topic (thread) for the past year and have noticed that there are many new members. Welcome!
This is my 4th year here, and I hope to have many more.
I notice that many new members are fretting about the chicks, worrying about them being on the edge of the nestbox. From past experience, I have seen only one mishap, Fife being knocked off the box sooner than was his need to go. It was an accident, plain and simple. It was nature being nature.,
The chicks need, (in reality MUST)  do this, they have to strenghten their wings and themselves for the journey ahead.
These birds are born to fly. You will soon have the privlege of watching the parents teach the kids how to negotiate and hunt. And you will experience the breathtaking natural progresession of their lives..
 Some will die and some will live. This is natures way.
I am grateful that I have been and will continue to be a part of this wonderful ride.
We don't have to like all of the outcomes, but we must accept them and move on, just as the falcons do. They are far more pragmatic and accepting than we humans.

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1245 on: June 18, 2012, 21:13 »
RCF, did you capture this for propserity?  Please, oh please say you did.

Will you check??   Approximately : 9:00 to 9:05 .....    can ya check please :-*
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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1244 on: June 18, 2012, 21:09 »
Bahahahah, one brother just performed poop art on another brother.

Oh my dear word, bahahaha, this this brings on a whole new meaning to " beep, beep, beep, danger danger, alien approaching.
Just where the heck is my raincoat?? ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1243 on: June 18, 2012, 19:22 »
Getting back to the discussion of animals and their emotions and mental capacity.

I know that animals do have emotions, many resemble ours but are not identical.

You can drive an animal crazy. Many caged animals who are not kept in large enough cages exhibit this behaviour.

When one of my dogs hurt her leg by putting it through a doorway before it was opened wide enought. Her leg was squeezed but not seriously injured, yet, for the rest of her life, she hesitated and was wary of doors opening and closing.

Our falcons do develop mentally as well as emotionally but only the falcon gods know the details. :P
I agree with you Moka, but it's been my experience that emotional behaviour by non-humans appears to be restricted to domesticated mamals.
Dogs will be embarassed by a new haircut, will howl when left behind in an empty house, rabbits show displeasure by thumping. I have no idea what cats do, I've never owned one.
It's my belief that the animals pick up on our feelings and emotions and, in their own non-verbal way, let us know what they're feeling.
Wild species, I'm not so sure. Do they show patience and what we perceive as tenderness, to their young, yes. But is than not an instinctve reaction rather than an emotional one?
Survival and procreation, in my opinion, are the motivators for wild animal behaviour.
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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1242 on: June 18, 2012, 18:48 »
6:48pm... Big beautiful breast of Red Girl!

With occasional wing of brother on ledge...

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1241 on: June 18, 2012, 18:26 »
Getting back to the discussion of animals and their emotions and mental capacity.

I know that animals do have emotions, many resemble ours but are not identical.

You can drive an animal crazy. Many caged animals who are not kept in large enough cages exhibit this behaviour.

When one of my dogs hurt her leg by putting it through a doorway before it was opened wide enought. Her leg was squeezed but not seriously injured, yet, for the rest of her life, she hesitated and was wary of doors opening and closing.

Our falcons do develop mentally as well as emotionally but only the falcon gods know the details. :P

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1240 on: June 18, 2012, 18:21 »
Great capture Jo!  And yes, our little white balls of fluff are all grown up!   :'(

Right now all I get on the cam is a face full of feathers!  LOL. 

All I see is a wing probably attached to a bird on a ledge because of the height.

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1239 on: June 18, 2012, 17:18 »
Great capture Jo!  And yes, our little white balls of fluff are all grown up!   :'(

Right now all I get on the cam is a face full of feathers!  LOL. 

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1238 on: June 18, 2012, 17:01 »
They are looking so grown up!


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Re: Radisson - 2012 / June
« Reply #1237 on: June 18, 2012, 14:55 »
Had a little walk around downtown (I had chores to do. Honest!). Saw one parent making lazy circles in the air above Tavern United (and that big smoke stack where one of the chicks (was it last year?) "dropped by" unexpectedly). Saw one brown chest up on the nest ledge having a nice gander. I tried to figure out who it was by checking the cam when I got back to my office but all four safely in the box. For now.  :)