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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2241 on: September 09, 2012, 10:46 »
I was walking from Memorial Park to Portage Ave after the 10+10 race this morning and found a headless pigeon lying on the grass. Looked like the work of a PF. Maybe someone dropped their lunch!

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2240 on: September 09, 2012, 10:07 »
Thought the same thing, that bccs spotted Princess on the east side.  Hadn't heard of "Trey's Peak" and figured that's where it is.  I'd also like to know if TPC has spotted anybody on the cams ???

Does anybody know when Sandy showed up last year?

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2239 on: September 09, 2012, 09:16 »
Pretty sure that's what bccs just posted about 2 days ago...
Thanks allikat. :-* Wasn't sure where "Trey's Peak" was. I thought it was on the east nest ledge corner, where they nested a few years ago.

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2238 on: September 08, 2012, 23:23 »
Pretty sure that's what bccs just posted about 2 days ago...
However...she didn't have her camera!  What a shame!!!

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2237 on: September 07, 2012, 20:01 »
Have you seen any of our PF's in the nestbox or on the nest ledge with your spy cam lately, TPC?
« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 20:03 by Kinderchick »

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2236 on: September 06, 2012, 18:07 »
Great news you saw Princess bccs!  Glad to hear she is still around.  ;D

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2235 on: September 06, 2012, 15:58 »
At 2 pm today, Princess was on the nest ledge ( Trey's peak) watching the world go by.
There will not be a picture, as I did not have my camera. I guess I've committed another crime. ::)

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2234 on: September 05, 2012, 09:27 »
Very interesting "read" about transmitters. Thanks for posting, TPC. :-* Also love your brief comment about "Fuffy". How very true! LOL! ;)

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2233 on: September 05, 2012, 06:12 »
Thank you Tracy

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2232 on: September 03, 2012, 22:15 »
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Unwaxed dental floss is used to fit the transmitter packpacks - an individualized fit for each bird.  The floss usually degrades in about two years and then the transmitters drop off.  The floss is used at the front of the backpack and on the back - when one of the location degrades the bird can shake the pack off quite easily - it's build to slide off once one of the floss points degrades.

 So you mean dental floss is used as stitching on the teflon straps, that's very interesting. Thank you.  It still seems a long time for the falcon to wear the non functional unit, maybe he will chew the straps off. 

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2231 on: September 03, 2012, 21:21 »
I hope McDermot's non functioning transmitter has a drop off mechanism because it would a shame for him to carry that around the rest of his life. I know they make them so they do fall off when they are no more use to the research project. :-\

Unwaxed dental floss is used to fit the transmitter packpacks - an individualized fit for each bird.  The floss usually degrades in about two years and then the transmitters drop off.  The floss is used at the front of the backpack and on the back - when one of the location degrades the bird can shake the pack off quite easily - it's build to slide off once one of the floss points degrades.  An earlier backpack configuration used to break or degrade and it used to leave the transmitter hanging around the birds's necks, wasn't used for long needless to say.  If the transmitter is still operational when it drops off, researchers will have a couple of days maybe to find it and retrieve it before the battery loses power and the signal is lost - that's assuming it isnt' run over or crushed in the meantime.  If it isn't operational, then it would be just luck if anyone found it in time to be returned to the researchers.  Researchers buy the transmitters for thousands of dollars each knowing that most will not be retrieved but it's a fair tradeoff - limited time on the bird and the hope that the data retrieved will prove useful, particularly since most transmitters projects are on species at risk or about which we know very little.  Generally can't get organizations/agencies to fund expensive transmitter research (thousands for equipment, thousands more for satellite time) on species we do know alot about or that are quite common.  Generally that it, know that there have been satellite transmitters put on cats, but then how much do we know about Fluffy, other than he he seems very dignified, likes occasional to bring "presents" home and he considers humans as "staff".

There are some quick release mechanisms for transmitters but my understanding is that they aren't commonly used on birds, or at least not on peregrines, because of the risk that the mechanism will become caught on a branch, nest, during mating, hunting, when being attacked, etc.  Over the centuries falconers have learned that anything on a hunting raptor needs to be able to slide through things like branches, stay out of the way of hunting and flying, etc and that if a bird does decide to resume its wild life, it's falconry acoutrements, which are most often made of leather, eventually either rot off or can be chewed off in a relatively quick order if the bird so desires.  (Heck birds manage to get aluminium bands off occasionally!)  The individualized fit and the use of the dental floss helps to keep the transmitters on securely enough to keep the bird safe but not indefinitely or so securely that when part of the floss degrades (or is cut) that the whole unit can't be wriggled out of easily enough by the peregrine.  As the unit is fitted, there are finger widths of space at various points - it keeps the backpack in the proper location without it shifting and interfering with the bird's normal activities.  For folks who have knapsacks with the breast strap across the front - the idea isn't to have it tight, just the right length to keep the pack from cutting over and under the arms or from interfering from natural movement at the same time that it keeps a heavy pack in the right place so as not to cause damage to the person wearing it.  If your pack is fitted correctly, then nothing is tight or binds and the whole pack can shift but only within a prescribed range and the weight is properly/evenly distributed and secure (ie: going over your head if you have to bend down/over or fall).  Until you unclip the breast strap that is, at which point the pack slips off your arms easily - if fitted correctly.  Principle is the same for the transmitter backpacks but instead of a clip which is hazardous, you have biodegradable dental floss.

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2230 on: September 03, 2012, 15:14 »
McDermot's transmitter has gone offline but its not believed its because he's run into trouble.  Apparently the unit has been having spits and spurts of trouble for a while now and so its believed it was a defective unit and its finally given up the ghost.  As was seen when the Nipper died, there is a pattern to the signals received by the transmitters when a bird dies and that's not been the case with McDermot's transmitter, just on/off which is what it has been doing.

I'm not sure, but I think McDermot did a fly-by the nestbox on August 26th (so last Sunday) but can't be positive.

I hope McDermot's non functioning transmitter has a drop off mechanism because it would a shame for him to carry that around the rest of his life. I know they make them so they do fall off when they are no more use to the research project. :-\
« Last Edit: September 03, 2012, 16:33 by RCF »

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Radisson - 2012 / September to December
« Reply #2229 on: September 02, 2012, 22:45 »
McDermot's transmitter has gone offline but its not believed its because he's run into trouble.  Apparently the unit has been having spits and spurts of trouble for a while now and so its believed it was a defective unit and its finally given up the ghost.  As was seen when the Nipper died, there is a pattern to the signals received by the transmitters when a bird dies and that's not been the case with McDermot's transmitter, just on/off which is what it has been doing.

I'm not sure, but I think McDermot did a fly-by the nestbox on August 26th (so last Sunday) but can't be positive.

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / August
« Reply #2228 on: August 20, 2012, 17:32 »
The updates resulting from the transmitter placement on McDermot are such bonuses at this time of the season.  Thanks for keeping us up to date on our juvie.

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Re: Radisson - 2012 / August
« Reply #2227 on: August 18, 2012, 22:35 »
Thanks, TPC, for the updates of McDermot's travels.  I find that very interesting.

Me too.  It's comforting to know McDermot appears to be thriving on his own.  I love hearing about his travels.