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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2021, 19:53 »
Hey GCG!

I'm trying to make sure I cross link to everything here on the forum so that the folks on the forum (arguably our most engaged) are in the loop on everything!
Hope this helps!
TPC

Thank you, TPC, for keeping the forum up to date.  It is the only place I regularly check.

That's what we were finding - some folks check everywhere most most folks have a go-to, so trying to post across them all with the same information or most of it at least. Makes it easier for me too frankly - still have to do the work but there is a pattern to circulating it.

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2021, 19:46 »
Hey GCG!

I'm trying to make sure I cross link to everything here on the forum so that the folks on the forum (arguably our most engaged) are in the loop on everything!
Hope this helps!
TPC

Thank you, TPC, for keeping the forum up to date.  It is the only place I regularly check.

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2021, 12:20 »
Hey GCG!

We had a little flurry of returns just before and just after the crazy weather we got here last week.  We have are using the forum, the blog and twitter to keep folks up to-date - and I'm trying to make sure I cross link to everything here on the forum so that the folks on the forum (arguably our most engaged) are in the loop on everything!  I'm sure there will be bugs to work out using all three platforms again but got to start somewhere :)

Hope this helps!
TPC

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2021, 11:15 »
What is the latest date of our returning PF's? Is there a chance of having more nests than our Radisson returnees? Thanks!

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2013, 20:21 »
I didn't know that tape was still used. Too bad it is so difficult to convert. Learn something new every day.

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2013, 23:32 »
That will be good to see a banding video for this year. I seem to recall that there was supposedly one for last year but it was never posted on the forum.  Will that one be available to watch also?   :-X

I hope so!  We have tape from both the 2012 McKenzie Seeds and Radisson bandings but CBC couldn't convert them for whatever reason so I did look for someone last year but didn't have much luck.  Depending on the equipment we will be using this year, it might be on tape in which case I will continue with my hunt or it might be in digital format which could make it much quicker/easier to post.

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2013, 19:35 »
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We will be banding the 3 McKenzie Seeds chicks on Friday, July 5th - time to be confirmed. 

Eye-Spy usually films our bandings to stream live but he will not be able to join us this year. 

Because we don't want to risk screwing up the streaming from the window cam,
we will likely not be streaming live rather we will have a video available
as soon as we can get the recording converted.

Will confirm the banding time shortly.

That will be good to see a banding video for this year. I seem to recall that there was supposedly one for last year but it was never posted on the forum.  Will that one be available to watch also?   :-X

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2013, 19:21 »
Thank you, TFC, you did answer my questions.

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2013, 16:15 »
This is my first season watching the falcon cams.  I've seen the larger Radisson chick trying to get up onto the ledge.  My questions are: does a chick ever fall off the ledge?  If it does, can a parent retrieve it and put it back or is it lost?   ???

Our peregrines (Falco peregrinus anatum) have evolved to nest on cliff ledges, most of which are much smaller and narrower than the ledge they are currently occupying.  As a result, the chicks are hard-wired not to fall.  So to answer your question, no chicks don't, as a rule, fall from the nest boxes or nest ledges prior to fledging (taking their first flights).  The longer they stay on the ledge, the more time they have to strengthen their wing muscles so that when they do take that first step off the building (either on purpose or by accident) then better their chance of surviving the first 24 hours after fledging and then the first 10 days of fledging.

The only time we have ever had a chick "fall" before fledging (first flight) age, was when one had a cerebral accident (like a stroke) and parts of its brain started to die.  When the necrosis reached the chick's balance centre in the brain, the chick literally lost it's ability to keep itself upright (standing or sitting) and it's confusion, it got too close to the edge of the box and it toppled over the edge and fell to it's death.  Sounds terrible but actually given what was happening its brain, it was probably a more human way to die than say waiting until the necrosis had reached the breathing centre at which point the chick would have lost the ability to breathe which would I figure would have been a much less humane way to die. 

To answer the second part, no, at this age there is not much an adult can do to help the chick - as you can see on the webcams, the chicks are the size of their fathers and the female chicks are close to their mother's size already. 

The closer the chicks get to fledging age, the safer they will be - in part because they will be larger and stronger, in part because they will be more comfortable sitting on the edge of the ledge and on the drain cover which will (hopefully) help them to be wiser and they will fledge when they are ready not because they got too excited and fledged earlier than they could have/should have.  Not much we humans can do about it other than to keep our fingers crossed.

Hope that answers your questions Dagny  :)

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2013, 13:07 »
This is my first season watching the falcon cams.  I've seen the larger Radisson chick trying to get up onto the ledge.  My questions are: does a chick ever fall off the ledge?  If it does, can a parent retrieve it and put it back or is it lost?   ???

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2013, 13:30 »
Hi Tracey,

Noticed the posting on the Hatch Watch.

When is day 27 for our Radisson Chicks?  And have you noticed if Ivy/Princess have given indications such as being restless, to let us know that our little fuzzy chicks are soon to arrive?

Have posted all the dates on the Radisson thread Newchick - think we were posting simultaneously!  :D

Thanks Tracey!

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2013, 10:21 »
Hi Tracey,

Noticed the posting on the Hatch Watch.

When is day 27 for our Radisson Chicks?  And have you noticed if Ivy/Princess have given indications such as being restless, to let us know that our little fuzzy chicks are soon to arrive?

Have posted all the dates on the Radisson thread Newchick - think we were posting simultaneously!  :D

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2013, 09:58 »
Hi Tracey,

Noticed the posting on the Hatch Watch.

When is day 27 for our Radisson Chicks?  And have you noticed if Ivy/Princess have given indications such as being restless, to let us know that our little fuzzy chicks are soon to arrive?

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2013, 19:11 »
Yes thank you TPC

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Re: Ask the Peregrine Chick - How it Works
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2013, 16:28 »
This might be a silly question, but I was wondering how age of chicks comes into consideration when it comes to banding them.  Today the chick (Zoom) at Columbus was banded and the four chicks at Pennsylvania were also banded but there is a considerable age difference between them.  I think Zoom is around 21 days old and the four chicks are around 30 days old.  (I'm sorry if this was asked and answered previously).

Age at banding is usually between 21 and 25 days because a) the chicks' feet are full grown by this stage and b) they can't fly and don't think of even trying to fly.  Doesn't mean you can't band them when they are older, you can band them anytime, but you have to then be aware that they can/could/will try to get away.  We've had chicks fledge successfully at 32 days of age (they were solos).  It may be that they couldn't band the PA chicks until later, sometimes logistics just get in the way.  Also, most of the PA chicks were females, which mean they would be fledging later which gives the bander a bit of a buffer, males are the ones you have to watch out for at the 30+ day mark.

Hope that helps ...