Radisson - 2008 / Trey & Princess

[The Peregrine Chick]

And there are always territories that are preferred and that has more to do with the building/tower/bridge's location and/or architecture.  The Radisson is the tallest building in downtown Winnipeg but it does have ledges for the birds to sit on and that is very (very) important.  

Another good point I hadn't thought of (and oh, there are so many!).  We have four other tall bldgs here (and I had thought "there's room for all" when I was reading Carly's Q), but none of them have the architecture of the Radisson, with it's fake roof and ledges for access by humans and placement of nestboxes.  All the rest seem to one have flat roof where there are people working on communication towers, there are the window-cleaner anchors, the tops of elevator shafts, exhaust fans, etc.  The false roof at the Radisson gives them the protection they need from human interference. 

And the buildings have to be far away from each other as peregrine territories are quite large.  We have three at the moment in Winnipeg and could probably get a fourth in if we/they could find a suitable building.  And the buildings have to be a certain height in relation to surround buildings, has to be near water, has to be near an evironment with a steady food source, etc, etc, etc.  So I'm afraid its not just a question of tall buildings ...

Have you all seen a trend when it comes to peregrines? Nothing is simple or straightforward!

[Loriann]

You are welcome,, i'll keep sending them as long as the birds hang around..
I think that one chick has a BIG ego, he sits still and looks regal for the camera.. HAM !

[bev.]

I am back and just got caught up on reading. I will keep posting the edmonton site and you will love the Aussie sites. we have a lot of fun there.
skygirl blue and I spent a lot of time at Alcoa last year(pink nestbox). I was up quite late and felt like a zombie most days because of time change.I also was following Brisbane .

Anyhow, I am glad Tracy posted about battles in Edmonton . Last year at the end of the season my favorite falcon at Toronto Sherraton lost her nest to a young female Rhea Mea from Rochester .  we do not know if she survived.this is Rhea Meas first season . the only consolation after many tears was that I saw Rhea Mea hatch and grow and fledge on
the Rochester site
at my site this year I was a wreck. the transmitter female who lost the site last year is my girl She got me started watching web cams back in 2005.
I know where she is roosting and I go and visit her. she may have a mate , we are not sure. but we do see a male hanging around sometimes.
When transmitter girl came back this year I was right at the computer and I freaked. A fight is not easy to witness.
Such mixed emotions as I grew to love the female of 2007. she was such a good mom. and then after  2 weeks of fledge the young miss hit a window.  Now I was a real mess.
that both  females were O.K> this year  was a miracle.  I phoned the biologist immediately and they went and checked things out.  so 2 days later when Radisson came into the territory, I was a wreck again.  I felt that the 2007 was heavy with eggs and she had just defended 2 days earlier and did not stand a chance.

When this happens  your heart just sinks. but then you have to accept it and go on.  the birds do.  I just pray that transmitter girl does not try again next year.
sorry for going on but these things do happen. I just hope the male is never challenged as he is so good.

 will be checking in and out and look forward to getting to know some of  you better

thanks Lori for the wonderful pictures
And eagle 63, people that belong to cams have big hearts and are very understanding.  I have found that out in the years I have been watching

Now I cannot get those pictures of Dennis's . any ideas anyone
I will be quiet now

[Liz]

SGB -- "other Peregrine stuff", projects/cams

[skygirlblue]

This is probably the wrong place to post this, but I just noticed the changes on the main page...I'm liking it!!!  Great job, Tracy...

[Liz]

And there are always territories that are preferred and that has more to do with the building/tower/bridge's location and/or architecture.  The Radisson is the tallest building in downtown Winnipeg but it does have ledges for the birds to sit on and that is very (very) important.  

Another good point I hadn't thought of (and oh, there are so many!).  We have four other tall bldgs here (and I had thought "there's room for all" when I was reading Carly's Q), but none of them have the architecture of the Radisson, with it's fake roof and ledges for access by humans and placement of nestboxes.  All the rest seem to one have flat roof where there are people working on communication towers, there are the window-cleaner anchors, the tops of elevator shafts, exhaust fans, etc.  The false roof at the Radisson gives them the protection they need from human interference. 

[eagle63_1999]

ROTFLMFAO hahahahahahahaha

[Loriann]

Yeah that's TPC's territory that you don't wanna go near.

well there's an idea for a new thread...

naked sand box wrestling... shovels optional.

[Liz]

I'd wager Tracy has some ideas for recipes that include japanese quail, and how to carve them up.. mm mm mmmmmm

ROTFL -- no doubt!  

[eagle63_1999]

Yeah that's TPC's territory that you don't wanna go near.

[Liz]

Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from me, too.  Now, hand me that pail, eagle!  (You notice, I don't ask for the shovel! lol) 

...Huh..

I believe the shovel belongs to Tracy.  Not about to battle her for that territory!  LOL.       

[Loriann]

I anticipate the "social zone" getting a lot of use as we keep in touch until next spring!  Maybe we could suggest some topic areas?  Like recipes, book recommendations, etc? 

Absolutely, I've started a thread for ideas in the Social Zone ....

I'd wager Tracy has some ideas for recipes that include japanese quail, and how to carve them up.. mm mm mmmmmm

[The Peregrine Chick]

Eagle, we still have the Radisson baby to enjoy and Australia's peregrine season is going to get started in the next few weeks...it's almost spring for them so their cycle is opposite to ours and will run until November I believe.  Break for Xmas and then Spring will come again and hopefully P&T will come back.  There is a good cam down there I can refer but will do so once the pain of this loss has eased for all.

I will be post a link to the FrodoCam in our peregrine cam section Carly, but if there are other ones, please send me a pm and I'll set it up.  And I'm going to take a look at the Forum's current design to see if I can improve some of our topic areas - particularly the webcam areas so its easier for you all to post and keep track of your favs.

Tracy, in recounting the battles for territory..are alot more of the young ones coming back home once they reach maturity and hence the sudden popularity of sites?  Or is that there are too few options available for them?  I agree with you, it's sad that we had 3 opportunities for breeding lost with 3 moms, even more so as one died    Given we're not out of the woods yet for having a healthy population, it would have been nice to have a place to call home for all of them.  Is there anything we can do to help that situation?

Generally territorial disputes are not between family members, offspring disperse from the natal site at fledging and while some will return, most of the records I have seen of territorial battles/deaths have been between stranger birds.  But it has been a while since I looked at the band records in the US Midwest so will take another look to see if that has changed any in the last few years.  As to doing something, not much one can do, the peregrines will nest where they want to and mostly recovery projects (like ours) have or will provide nestboxes if birds start to hang around in an area.  And there are always territories that are preferred and that has more to do with the building/tower/bridge's location and/or architecture.  The Radisson is the tallest building in downtown Winnipeg but it does have ledges for the birds to sit on and that is very (very) important.  We have provided a nestbox which has given the birds a second location (the nestledge being the other) to nest.  

If you want to help, make sure your local peregrine project (if there is one) has your name if you want to volunteer - and remember that every project will have different volunteer needs and they can vary from year to year, month to month and day to day.  If you don't have a peregrine project, there are lots of other species-at-risk projects (unfortunately) and volunteers are always needed.  Keep in mind that what helps one species in an area, helps them all.  So helping a plant species-at-risk will help the peregrines down the line ...

[ballywing]

Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from me, too.  Now, hand me that pail, eagle!  (You notice, I don't ask for the shovel! lol) 

...Huh..

[ballywing]

Hopefully more will come out too!  - I know there's more Wpg-ers out there. All the rest of you 'not' Wpg-ers - will definitely be there in spirit!