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Offline JL

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1476 on: May 25, 2009, 13:16 »
I just saw a shift change.  I think Trey is now on the eggs.  No pips yet. 

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1475 on: May 25, 2009, 13:00 »
Thank you Tracy and CBC for getting the cam going again.  I am home from work for lunch just to see it!  The "ledge" isn't as high-tech as I was expecting but whatever works is great.  It would be awful to be worrying about the rising water.  We just need to get past this rain and it will be perfect hatching weather.  

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1474 on: May 25, 2009, 12:59 »
1300 hrs (local) - the wind is still blowing, hopefully the sides of the box are giving her some protection from the "push" when it comes.  Gusting suppose to be up to 50km/h up until midnight tonight.   She is definitely doing a repeat of May 13th when she didn't move for about 5 hours as I recall - just some headshakes, a bit of looking around, but otherwise, eyes closed, head down and just toughing it out.

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1473 on: May 25, 2009, 12:56 »
The nest-tray ... is in fact a Rubbermaid clear plastic storage box.  Since this isn't to be a permanent solution and because we had to get it and 40 lbs of gravel up the side of the building in a swingstage, I went with plastic.  Its about 23" long and 15" wide and 6" deep.  Long enough for the Trey and Princess (and the chicks as they grow) and deep enough that even 1/2 full of gravel, there is still a bit of protection from the wind.

Holes ... yes, there are holes drilled in the bottom to let the water drain out.  And yes the water can  come in as well, but we couldn't not put holes in or any water that didn't drain out would be trapped and that would create an unhealthy environment for young chicks.  

Gravel ... the rain on June 6th last year was concentrated in about a 5 hour period which isn't usual for anywhere.  The drain on the roof works fine for normal rainfalls (like today's) so the gravel in the bottom of the bin (like that better than tray actually) is to lift the birds up out of the water if it should flood like last year.  Think fo the gravel as a platform - last year the birds were nesting on sand (basically) that was at most 1/4" deep on the roof.  Now the birds are at least 3" above the roof surface, higher if they start rearranging the gravel.  

So why not put more gravel in?  This ledge is plagued by the wind, by keeping the bin to a certain size and only 1/2 filling it, Trey and Princess would perhaps still be sheltered some from the wind, perhaps better now that their "nest" is smaller and their are walls on all four sides.  Also didn't want to have walls that were too low in case Trey (it happens to  him more than to Princess) gets flipped off the eggs or chicks.  With luck the wall will stop the eggs/chicks from going with him if that happens again this year.  

Position on the ledge ... two reasons for this location 1) box too big to fit in corner where eggs were and 2) that corner is way too close to the Big Drop.  By moving the box back, hopefully if Trey or Princess do get flipped, and the walls aren't high enough, the chick drops 6 inches rather than 14 stories.  Neither is desireable, one is just less desireable than the other.  And no, there is no downspout near the ledge, there are no downspouts anywhere externally on the Hotel, so that was one feature we didn't have to plan for.

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1472 on: May 25, 2009, 12:48 »
I just mean the weather difference and how rain-sodden P/T is compared to the dry and sunny Elk River condo where mom is having to provide air conditioning for the kids...    I wish P/T could have that weather!

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1471 on: May 25, 2009, 12:40 »
Why startling pchemist.

 P and T  could have had the condo also but they like the great outdoors ;) ;)
the sun will come out and all will be well.

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1470 on: May 25, 2009, 12:19 »
the contrast between here and Elk River could not be more startling.

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1469 on: May 25, 2009, 12:09 »
12:08
 a little shake of the head and now looking to the right

12:09
the wind is rustling her/his feathers a bit. And another few shakes

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1468 on: May 25, 2009, 12:05 »
I will let TPC answer your question on the bin but I think that last year the rain came right out of the donwspout and settled were the chicks were in the corner.
TPC has move the bin away from that corner and they are elevated a bit and the tub probably has drainage which means water form the top can drain out easily.
so the water has to to get through 2 levels of pebbles now and chances are  it won't.

Very good vibes here.

did I mess that up TPC ::) ::)

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1467 on: May 25, 2009, 12:02 »
Tracy how big is the bin? I also assume there are holes at the bottom to drain the water. When the chicks get bigger will you remove it,
or will they continue to use it till they fledge?

Thanks Tracy soooooo glad the cam is up for us to watch. ;D

Doreen

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1466 on: May 25, 2009, 11:53 »
Yay..came back from lunch and cam is now up and there she is in her bin :).  Very nifty idea TPC!   ;D

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1465 on: May 25, 2009, 11:52 »
Thanks to Tracy and Bev for the picture.  Enjoy watching everyone that can.  I should have left my computer on at home.  Now I have to wait until it comes on and does all it's crap till I can see the web cam when I get home.

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1464 on: May 25, 2009, 11:49 »
...yes, it looks like a large tupperware container - how does it work?  I mean, if it can drain out, can it also drain in? ie, take on the level of water on the ledge?  

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1463 on: May 25, 2009, 11:49 »
I think they drilled holes in the bin Pchemist - and it looks to me like the bin is not in that same corner where the rain all collected last year?  ???

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Re: Radisson - 2009 / May
« Reply #1462 on: May 25, 2009, 11:43 »
so, TPC - I assume what we see is a bin with a grid of some sort on the bottom so the rain drains better past the pebbles?