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Title: Radisson - 2013 / Ivy & Princess
Post by: bccs on February 04, 2013, 20:14
I was downtown today. Checked out the nest box, nest ledge, Hdyro sign, Rogers  sign, Richardson building, Kensington bldg, Post office etc. etc.
No sign of any peregrines - but lots of pigeons.
Beware grey birds, they will be back soon. And you will be kraft dinner.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: GCG on February 07, 2013, 04:48
 :P  Kraft Dinner, pulled pigeon, a banquet awaits. As of today, following TPC's timer, 51 days.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: bcbird on February 07, 2013, 11:13
As of today, following TPC's timer, 51 days.

I can't find the timer.
I've clicked on the Project Website, but don't see a timer there.
Where should I look?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: GCG on February 08, 2013, 05:31
As of today, following TPC's timer, 51 days.

I can't find the timer.
I've clicked on the Project Website, but don't see a timer there.
Where should I look?
Sorry bcbird, on January 12th, TPC posted that the timer is in the works and the count was 77 days. I made the post about 51 days from her post on Jan. 12th to Feb 7th. I'm am sure the timer will be up soon. With her very heavy schedule, we can do the math until the timer is up and running.  :-[ Again, sorry for the confusion. gcg
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: bcbird on February 08, 2013, 20:07
Thanks, gcg.
I assumed I had an old link or thought I hadn't seen something obvious.
Math skills are invaluable!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: dupre501 on February 13, 2013, 13:03
Yesterday, my husband and I were driving when I spotted two birds circling above, landing on, then circling some more above the B&B. As we drove closer I had my eyes glued to the area. Finally, we were close enough and (deep sigh) it was ravens. Oh well, I knew it was too early for peregrines. Keeping my eyes on the skies ;D

Oops, this should be posted on the West Winnipeg site.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: birdcamfan on February 13, 2013, 18:15
Yesterday, my husband and I were driving when I spotted two birds circling above, landing on, then circling some more above the B&B. As we drove closer I had my eyes glued to the area. Finally, we were close enough and (deep sigh) it was ravens. Oh well, I knew it was too early for peregrines. Keeping my eyes on the skies ;D

Oops, this should be posted on the West Winnipeg site.
There have been a lot of ravens hanging around there for the past few weeks. They caught my eye too!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: irenekl on February 15, 2013, 11:12
This morning there were ravens flying up & down my street with serious intent about something.  They were making a ton of noise and I was actually blessed by the sound.  Reminded me so much of summer and how annoying they are when they scare off all the smaller birds.  But today, on another cold wintry morning I loved it!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / January to February
Post by: bccs on February 25, 2013, 14:31
I went for a walk about aroun d 10:30 this morning. I looked in all the usual places but didn't see and peregrines.
Strangely enough, I didn't see any crows, ravens or pigeons either. They might now something we don't.
Yes Dennis, I had my camera with me. :)
Title: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 13, 2013, 09:15
The spycam on the east side of the Hotel has gone off-line so Eye-Spy has agreed to take a look at it sometime in the next little while.  We will also need to clean the dome on the skycam (west side) as there is a build up of rain/weather marks, however, that will probably have to wait until its a little warmer.  Doesn't interfere with operations or viewing, just not the clear image we will want when the birds are back and getting comfy.  The ledge cam and the inside-box cam are both fine and running.  The outside-box cam is also running but at the moment all you can see is snow - the nest box is more than a little full of snow still!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 13, 2013, 09:21
Had a little spin around with the skycam and nothing sitting in the sun on the Manitoba Hydro sign or on the east or north Rogers sign, or the west-side Radisson sign and no sign in the nestbox of any visitations, peregrines or otherwise ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: birdnut on March 13, 2013, 09:43
Was downtown last night between 5 and 6:15 - no peregrines spotted.

Just as we were leaving, a pair of bald eagles came from the HSC area and circled high overhead.  Watched them for about 5 minutes until they disappeared behind buildings over towards Broadway. 

Overall yesterday was a good birdie day....one peregrine in the afternoon...two bald eagles at night.  I love spring!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Shocka88 on March 17, 2013, 23:10
Where, oh where can our birdies be? I keep checking the forum for sightings but......  I guess they are waiting for warmer temps and some snow to go. I don't blame them as I am doing the same thing!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: susha on March 18, 2013, 10:09
Maybe they took one look at the never-ending snow and turned around to go back south :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: birdnut on March 18, 2013, 11:32
Maybe they took one look at the never-ending snow and turned around to go back south...


Don't blame them one bit..I am ready to join them.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: birdcamfan on March 18, 2013, 11:50
I stood at the base of the Radisson this morning and looked straight up. I could hardly see where they would be if they were there..so much blowing snow. I hope they are sticking to warmer climes until say..next weekend when it gets warm!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Cooper on March 18, 2013, 13:08
Maybe they took one look at the never-ending snow and turned around to go back south...


Don't blame them one bit..I am ready to join them.



And I'm on your tail. An hour and a half to shovel my driveway this morning. Paused a few times to peer into the sky looking for birds over the river (and also to avoid having heart attack). All I saw were a few crows, swooping and cavorting like they were enjoying it! Idjits.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: ballywing on March 19, 2013, 12:39
Checked the West Nest area around noon today - no sign of anybirdies yet - TOO COLD!!!  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Pam on March 26, 2013, 18:42
Just saw what sure looked like a peregrine perched on top of one of the apartment buildings in Osborne Village.......
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: ballywing on March 26, 2013, 22:20
Oh I sure hope so!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Moonstar on March 27, 2013, 10:14
Someone should have showed up here by now....right?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Saoirse on March 27, 2013, 10:56
Just saw what sure looked like a peregrine perched on top of one of the apartment buildings in Osborne Village.......

Any more visitors in the area, Pam? I guess you're going everywhere with binoculars now!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 27, 2013, 11:13
Just buzzed around the west side with the skycam and no sign of anyone.  Also checked the recorder and no one has stopped in/at the box or flown by the box so still no joy at the Radisson so far.

Eye-Spy is hoping to get to the Radisson spycam (on the east side) in the next few days and that will double our viewing potential ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Kinderchick on March 27, 2013, 20:40
Oh boy, this is getting really exciting! Can't wait to hear more from Pam or any who are in the downtown area! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Pam on March 27, 2013, 20:54
Not in the downtown any more, Kinderchick!  And experts are telling me what I saw was a Merlin, hope to get a better look if he/she returns!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Liz on March 27, 2013, 22:04
Someone should have showed up here by now....right?
Usually yes, but it's stayed cold so maybe instinct is keeping them away?  Someone will show up soon  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Cooper on March 28, 2013, 15:58
Woot! Somebirdie is home downtown. Just saw someone on the perch on the Kensington Building at about 3:30 p.m. I'd guess Ivy...looking svelt.   8)

I actually thought I saw a bird there earlier in the afternoon, but couldn't say for sure given the angle I was looking.

But for sure at 3:30!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 28, 2013, 18:00
Cooper is quite right, first bird came in at about 12noon and had a quick look around and then later in the afternoon there were two birds - looked like one female and one male. 

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/149412862/medium.jpg)

Male does look like Ivy but he wasn't staying still long enough for me to get a look at his legband.  The coloured band is on his right leg which is the "right" leg for Ivy, but also for Beau for that matter. 

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/149412863/medium.jpg)

As for the other bird, looked larger and was very leery of the outside-box cam which is something Princess is not.  Also the bird's breast is white, not like Princess at all.  Couldn't get any kind of look at that bird's legbands.  Could be Sandy, could be Jules ...

Going to post some video on the Project's YouTube Gallery and you can look for yourselves.
 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Jazzerkins on March 28, 2013, 18:41
WHOOPEE!  :-* They're ba-a-a-ck.  Now the fun begins. Looking forward to getting out there and watching these lovely birds.  ;D :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 28, 2013, 18:43
1844h
Bunch of bowing going on right now in the nestbox ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 28, 2013, 18:44
AAAKKKKK

Female in the nestbox is JULESSSSSSS   
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: RCF on March 28, 2013, 19:16
 :o  Maybe they've decided that this is where they want to live for the next 6 months. :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Baffled on March 28, 2013, 19:16
Could Jules be visiting the Radisson nestbox with an eye for upgrading her real estate?

Would it be typical for a falcon to move, with a previous mate like Beau (who has been seen in West Winnipeg this spring, yes?), to a new nest site? Would she typically have to fight for the Radisson nestbox?

How exciting to know that the birds are returning!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 28, 2013, 19:32
Oh, I think Mrs Beau is considering not only a change in location but a change in "beaus" ... looks like the male she was with could be Ivy!!  I've got Dennis taking a look at the fuzzy image I manage to catch of his band number while he was running out of the nestbox so we'll see what he says before I confirm the male's identity.  If Princess comes home and Jules is still here it will not be a happy occasion.  Jules is a "nands-on" kind of bird as is Princess ...

Just as a reminder, Jules' first mate was Ivy - they were unsuccessful (yes, they tried to nest "there") but he was her first "beau" so to speak.

Is this usual?  Well, when birds have left sites (and mates) it has been to move in downtown.  T-Rex left Burnsie his mate of a few years to take over the Radisson with Madame with whom he had a summer fling the year after he hatched.  Holly took up with Keener-Screech then welcomed Zeus back after he spent the year "batching" it.  Trey spent two years in Winnipeg waiting for an opportunity to move in at the Hotel when he could, and it worked and he did.  And most recently, Ivy ditched Jules when he moved downtown to the Radisson and Princess.

If she did take over downtown, what would that mean for Beau?  Oh, I don't think he would have any problem finding a lady friend, he's a very good-looking peregrine, older and experienced - exactly what any lady peregrine would be looking for.

But let us not get ahead of ourselves ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Kinderchick on March 28, 2013, 20:00
Well, well, well ... Here we go again - "As the world turns". That downtown Radisson nest box sure is prime real estate! ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 28, 2013, 20:10
Well, well, well ... Here we go again - "As the world turns". That downtown Radisson nest box sure is prime real estate! ::)

I don't mind a little soap opera, but I really, really don't want to be a bloody soap opera like last year!  :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Tess on March 28, 2013, 20:37
Wow, looks like things are getting exciting in Winnipeg!  I wonder what will happen in Brandon ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 28, 2013, 22:34
Dennis had a look at my webcam screen capture and concurs that Ivy is home ...  :)

Ivy seems to want to play "house" with every female who arrives in his nestbox - Sandy a couple of times, another black-banded bird last year and now Jules.  If you didn't know this, one could almost mistake his accepting nature (the cad) for familiarity, like he had spent time with her during the winter.  And no, there is no evidence of that, he leaves before she does in the fall and we have no idea where either goes when the leave the province and its a big world out there!

But maybe we will have another year of "As the Peregrine Flies" ...  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: GCG on March 29, 2013, 06:16
Well, well, well ... Here we go again - "As the world turns". That downtown Radisson nest box sure is prime real estate! ::)

I don't mind a little soap opera, but I really, really don't want to be a bloody soap opera like last year!  :'(

Very happy to hear we are seeing the return of our falcons. Don't like hearing that Ivy is playing the game "Red rover, Red rover, would Jules please come on over" Hopeful that :) Princess returns soon to keep our Radisson Royals in tact.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Doreen on March 29, 2013, 08:18
Welcome home Ivy!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: birdcamfan on March 29, 2013, 08:43
tsk, tsk, tsk..worse than high school in the 70's!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Shocka88 on March 29, 2013, 09:31
So glad to hear of the return of some of our falcons and do hope there is not too much drama here when Princess arrives.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: bcbird on March 29, 2013, 11:40
tsk, tsk, tsk..worse than high school in the 70's!

Ooh, and that wasn't great for some of us.

Whatever the circumstances though, it is great to see the regulars back and healthy after their winter migration.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 29, 2013, 13:59
Checked the recorder and it looks like we had a visitor to the nestbox at about 6:30am this morning - I think it was Ivy but it was too dark to say for sure.  It's 2pm now and there hasn't been anyone at the box since.  However, the sun has just come around the building so its warmer there now and drier as the hoar-frost is melting quickly.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: susha on March 29, 2013, 14:03
So, I'm sure on everyone's mind is: will Princess come back?  I guess there will come a time when she decides to stay down south and retire from her motherly duties...And I guess that Jules would be the logical one to take over as the ruler of the Radisson territory...but are we ready??  Will we ever be ready?  It's nature, so whether we're ready or not, it'll be what it'll be... :-\

I don't remember when Princess returned in previous years, in relation to the others...TPC...?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 29, 2013, 15:30
I don't remember when Princess returned in previous years, in relation to the others...TPC...?

She's not late yet.  Ivy usually returns earlier than her in the spring and Jules is notorious for arriving 1st or 2nd each year.  Ivy has only been home for a day, give it another week minimum before you start to worry/wonder. And it will depend on whether or not Jules wants to abandon Beau and West Winnipeg for Ivy and the Radisson and if Ivy will accept Jules and if Beau decides to not contest Ivy for the Radisson territory.  So we wait and watch and see what happens.

And Jules is just one choice for downtown.  Jolicoeur if she returns is just as likely to take over at the Radisson if Princess is absent.  Or Sandy could reappear, we know she likes the nestbox!  Or it could be someone entirely new ... that is the nice thing about this time of the year, so many possibilities!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Liz on March 29, 2013, 21:23
I'm happy that anybirdies are here, no matter who they are.   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: allikat on March 29, 2013, 23:24
What excitement!!!  It's still early yet folks...to me, it's just nice to know that falcons want this location, so, all in all, it's a positive in all directions.  I prefer to see Princess back, of course, to "lock talons" with Ivy, and have Beau and Jules to their thing in West Winnipeg, but, birds do what they want to do and we must respect their wishes.  Still very exciting that the birds are finally back, after a long winter...We shall see what this next week holds!  (c'mon Princess....sorry, had to put that in)   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Baffled on March 30, 2013, 10:35
I agree with other posters that it is very positive that falcons are returning, and returning to this fantastic location, which has had so many successful nests and provided such an opportunity for the public to learn about these beautiful birds.

Many thanks again to the Peregrine Recovery Project, the Radisson, and CBC Manitoba.

And of course, I'm very interested to see who will decide to pair up and nest at the hotel this year. Exciting times!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: moka on March 30, 2013, 11:09
Well, well, well ... Here we go again - "As the world turns". That downtown Radisson nest box sure is prime real estate! ::)

I don't mind a little soap opera, but I really, really don't want to be a bloody soap opera like last year!  :'(

Couldn't agree more! Come home safely everyone and STAY THAT WAY!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: ballywing on March 30, 2013, 13:23
Would love to see Princess back again, just once more - she's the Matriarch of the Radisson!  :-*....but I guess after 10 or so years, she's getting a bit long in the tooth for all the travelling & egg bearing & kiddie raising......one more successful season would be lovely, but if not - we'll imagine her enjoying retirement somewhere in the sun with Trey,  and know that she left on a good strong note, leaving lots of descendants to boost the Peregrine Recovery Program and for us to enjoy!  (Still hoping to see her though) ;D  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: Helen b on March 30, 2013, 13:35
great to hear the birds are returning, another great year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: bev. on March 30, 2013, 14:33
Glad to see some of last years have returned.

I know what it feels like. Every year I wait and hold my breath. we have one so far in Edmonton but do not know if passing through or not. I do not know if it has been to box but did see one in area and we were too googoo eyed to take picutre ::) ::) I will not be able to go down again till tomorrow. have grand kids. but wil psot on Edmonton as soon as i know

so let us all hope for  a great season. :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 30, 2013, 16:51
We've had a couple of short visits to the nestbox, second was just the male who looks just like Ivy (not able to read his band this time) and the first one was of a male and female - and the female didn't look to have any bands and she had a white breast/belly ... so I'm thinking it was Jules again ...

... no conflict and nothing scary going on-camera so all is still good at this site ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 31, 2013, 17:33
Okay - bird in the box looks like it has a red or a black over red band on one leg.  Can't be sure as I'm watching it on the recorder and our outside box cam is acting up.  Looked like a female by the size, but maybe Beau?  He's as large as most of our female peregrines so I would hate to say for sure one way or another.  I'm really hoping the bird comes back and I can zoom in with the skycam .... I love this time of the year, but unfortunately can't be in front of the cameras all the time, no matter how much I would like to be ...

Only had that one visit so far today ... going to keep my fingers crossed for one more today ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 31, 2013, 18:58
Yes, we do have another bird in the nestbox, possibly both a new male and a new female - one of which (the female I think) with a black over red band.  So, could be Jolicoeur flirting with Ivy or perhaps it is Cowboy and Joli checking out the Radisson.

Ah, spring ...  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: RCF on March 31, 2013, 19:13
Maybe it's Alice.  ??? ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 31, 2013, 19:17
Maybe it's Alice.  ??? ;)

The right band colour but Alice is a big bird even for a female peregrine and this bird didn't seem big enough.  But until I get a glimpse at that darn band, who knows ....

Bird came back and it is definitely a black over red band on its left leg, so a US bird.  Bird sat on the edge of the nestbox like she owned it for 20 minutes while being buffeted by the wind (it's pretty strong - it's shaking the skycam some).  Sun is starting to go down which usually means the birds won't be back again this evening, but I'll keep hoping ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: RCF on March 31, 2013, 19:19
Well, you just never know!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on March 31, 2013, 21:39
Well, you just never know!!  ;D

And you could be right RCF - looking back at the recording, the light was shining from the wrong angle and there is a bit of spotting on the environmental cover from the winter, but the bottom letter looks to be the bottom letter on both Alice's and Joli's bands - the top number I think is more in keeping with Joli's based on the shape (it was blurry and too lit up by the sun) - Alice's top number is rounded and I think I saw sharp edges which would be more in keeping with Joli's.  Which begs the question, who was she with?  Looked like a black band on the right leg - that would be Ivy or could be Cowboy or could be another Manitoba male ...

... tomorrow is another day to find out though!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / March
Post by: RCF on March 31, 2013, 22:15
Well, you know some of those lady peregrines aren't to keen on showing off their legs .........at least the ones that we want to see.  ::)
Title: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: wpgfan on April 01, 2013, 08:40
anticipation on who is at the Radisson. I can hardly wait to find out.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Friesens on April 01, 2013, 08:47
well well well, who is hooking up with who, and where will be there locations for the next few months? This should be an interesting year like all the others. I am sure hoping no blood shed for any of them over territory.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 01, 2013, 11:03
Wow I hope not! If Princess does show up, she won't be too pleased about all this interest in 'her' digs! Fingers crossed all goes well !!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 01, 2013, 13:44
All quiet at the nestbox this morning - not usual at the moment the sun has only just come around the building so the box is much more appealing as a destination now.  And there are only a few vestiges of snow/ice left in the box which is great, with the sun it will dry up in there nicely before we have to clean out last year's debris!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 01, 2013, 17:50
Our black/red female bird turned up in the nestbox again but she was alone and she only stayed for a minute - not long enough for me to zoom in on her legband.  Not so much wind today so if she comes by before the sun gets too low I may get another chance at an ID ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Jazzerkins on April 02, 2013, 10:04
Somebirdie sitting pretty as you please on the corner of the nest box @ 7:55 AM this morning.  Wish people would be patient with me when the light turns green and I am trying to see who is on the nest box.  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 02, 2013, 12:33
It has been quiet all morning.  Have zipped around with the skycam to check out the Hydro sign and the Rogers sign when they were in the sun but no one there.  Now the sun is just south of the Hotel so we will have sun on the nestbox in a little while and lo and behold, there is a bird, female it looks like, on the Radisson sign.  I'm looking down on the bird right now and the sun is just starting to lighter him/her up.  Maybe they will cooperate and let me peak at his/her legbands this afternoon while the light is good.

And I can not see a crown of lighter coloured feathers so it doesn't look like Princess is home yet ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bccs on April 02, 2013, 14:42
At 2:00 there was a bird on the east ledge. Most definitely not Ivy and I couldn't see well enough to say it was Princess.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: msdolittle on April 02, 2013, 17:47
Who ever it is is at the nest box right now.
I don't have a camera but it has a nice white breast.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 02, 2013, 20:42
At 2:00 there was a bird on the east ledge. Most definitely not Ivy and I couldn't see well enough to say it was Princess.

That was the female with the black/red band - she's been the most frequent visitor in the box since she arrived on the 30th.  Yesterday she was the only one in/at the box but today she had a male with her - and I don't think it was Ivy, I think perhaps it was Cowboy - the facial pattern was different from Ivy but it did look like Cowboy I think.

Could be we might have a new pair at the Radisson ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 03, 2013, 11:15
0835h CDT

Male popped into the box, turned around looking for someone (anyone?) then popped up onto the box edge and sat there for a minute before literally getting blown off the box edge.  The camera is shaking like its filming an earthquake with the south winds we have right now so not sure how a video clip will turn out but if its half-way decent, I'll post it on YouTube later today - it's a cool sideways flying exit from the box.

That has been the only visitation so far (it's just after 11am now) but perhaps if the sun will come out and the wind will drop or even if just the wind drops, we might get a visit this afternoon - they really do like the box when it is in the sun in these cooler temperatures.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 03, 2013, 12:35
1229h CDT

The Rogers sign (north side) has now become the Rendez-Vous Sign!  Female is on the last S, male is on the circle logo at the other end.  Just a minute ago there was some very adept aerial canoodling on the "S" given that according to both the Forks and the U of Wpg's weather stations the winds downtown are 46km/h with gusts to 60+km/h.

Last night Ivy (and a second blurry look at his band still makes me think its him) was starting to make scrapes in the nestbox, so unless Princess gets back in the next few days, we may have a new pair at the Radisson ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 03, 2013, 12:37
Looks like the north side Rogers sign is going to be the favourite roosting spot today given our south wind - both bird are sitting pretty and preening at the moment ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 03, 2013, 15:15
1514h

Not sure where she is at the moment but both the male (who I'm pretty sure is Ivy) was just in the box and she was in a little while ago - will check the recorder and slow down the video and see what we've got on for band numbers.  At normal speed the image is just being shaken too much to even guess about the band number but we will keep working at it.

He's back on the north side sign of the Rogers Building ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 03, 2013, 16:58
Lots and lots of canoodling today on the Rogers sign .... don't know if that is a sign of things to come but maybe ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 03, 2013, 19:17
Historically, what is the latest spring date that Princess has returned to Winnipeg, TPC?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 04, 2013, 00:00
Historically, what is the latest spring date that Princess has returned to Winnipeg, TPC?

Hmmm, I'll have to do some checking for the actual dateas but she usually returns pretty promptly in the spring.  She used to arrive either with or before Trey but if I remember correctly, Ivy has been coming in ahead of her.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 04, 2013, 10:01
Just before 7am the male came to visit the nestbox briefly and alone, now (10am) the female is perched on the box edge alone but her head's on a swivel - waiting for "him" or waiting for food?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 04, 2013, 12:33
1230h CDT

both birds are parked on the Radisson sign under the nestbox - one at each end ... looks like the female at the south end, male at the north ... sun is just coming around to the west side of the hotel ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 04, 2013, 15:40
1543h CDT

Confirmation, the male at the Radisson is definitely Ivy ... our little flirt ...  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 04, 2013, 16:58
1543h CDT

Confirmation, the male at the Radisson is definitely Ivy ... our little flirt ...  ;)

Ivy, when Princess comes home, you're gonna have some "s'plainin" to do.  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 04, 2013, 17:18
LOL.......Come on Princess, if you're coming, hurry up & get here before Ivy chooses a new beau!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 04, 2013, 17:49
Given the amount of copulating going on yesterday and how close (in peregrine terms) Ivy and "Joli" were sitting today, they would both be happy if Princess didn't return ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 04, 2013, 17:52
Oh Boy  :-\ - Well maybe it's time for a new generation to carry on  - Hopefully Princess has retired happily and doesn't show up then, we don't want any drama going on.... :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 05, 2013, 06:55
Given the amount of copulating going on yesterday and how close (in peregrine terms) Ivy and "Joli" were sitting today, they would both be happy if Princess didn't return ...

Maybe on route to Winnipeg, Princess ran into Trey, eyes locked, sparks reignited and they have reunited.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: birdcamfan on April 05, 2013, 07:25
Given the amount of copulating going on yesterday and how close (in peregrine terms) Ivy and "Joli" were sitting today, they would both be happy if Princess didn't return ...

Maybe on route to Winnipeg, Princess ran into Trey, eyes locked, sparks reignited and they have reunited.  ;D
That's a nice thought.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: photosbydennis on April 05, 2013, 10:53
Lone bird just left Rogers sign and came over to the nest box...in and out of the box and now sitting on the corner.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: photosbydennis on April 05, 2013, 12:26
For anyone downtown...looks like the female (Joli ? ) sitting on the S on the North side of the Rogers building.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 05, 2013, 12:31
I think she is staking a definite claim to this territory and the male that comes with it ...  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 05, 2013, 15:58
Posted this on the West Winnipeg thread as well ...

I'm jumping Dennis' gun here just cuz I can't stand to wait any longer ... looks like Joli may be a bit of a floozy as well as Ivy!!  She was out at HSC sitting on the Buhler sign when in came a male with food and Dennis managed to catch photos - one is a much better confirmation of Joli's band than I had with the webcam photo (way to go Dennis!) and the other is another old friend - Smiley from Grand Forks is back as well!!  Ivy is still sitting downtown on the Rogers sign and his new girlfriend is off making the peregrine equivalent of goo-goo eyes at another falcon!

Actually an Ivy-Joli match would be the best because they are unrelated - Smiley is Joli's nephew of sorts.  Smiley's Dad is a half-sibling of Joli.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 05, 2013, 18:18
Lots of relations having relations around here!  :-X - I have to say though, Mother & Son team 'Ivy & Princess' sure had a good run of it and did a great job!  :-* If Princess has truly retired, then I hope Jolicoeur chooses Ivy!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bcbird on April 05, 2013, 19:22
Ivy comes with the best real estate in town.

How could a girl resist?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 06, 2013, 15:29
Ivy's been in and out of the nestbox all morning and at the moment he's sitting on the green slash of the Radisson sign.  Haven't seen hide-nor-feather of Joli anywhere today and I'm of the opinion that Ivy is looking out for her and doesn't want to leave the site until she comes back ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 06, 2013, 16:31
Maybe she's out having a rendezvous with Smiley :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 06, 2013, 17:24
Geez, I hope Ivy doesn't end up a bachelor this year, he needs a gal - any gal!!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: JP on April 06, 2013, 20:40
We hope to be downtown at some time and just be able to spot a Peregrine, have been waiting so long to see them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Linder on April 06, 2013, 23:21
If bad weather has held up some of our regulars from arriving, maybe Princess is waiting as well.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 07, 2013, 08:59
We hope to be downtown at some time and just be able to spot a Peregrine, have been waiting so long to see them.

There's nothing quite as exhilarating as seeing one, soaring overhead JP!  Hope you see one soon and welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 07, 2013, 09:04
If bad weather has held up some of our regulars from arriving, maybe Princess is waiting as well.

Oh Linder, good point!  I think we're supposed to have some warmer temps in a few day ( ::)) Perhaps Princess will arrive soon to take over her territory and send fickle Joli off to do some growing up ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 08, 2013, 06:40
I certainly hope Princess gets wind of what has been happening at her domain, ruffles her feathers and darts home.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 08, 2013, 09:12
Yesterday (Sunday, April ) between about 6am and 9am, Ivy was in/on the box a couple of times and hung out a bit as well but no sign of Joli or any other peregrines at the nestsite or around it when I panned around.

This morning, it looked like a female on the nestbox when I checked the recording and she was sitting on the north corner of the nestbox for about an hour.  Couldn't tell who it was, Joli I think because of the size and the size of her white breast (larger than Princess').  At the moment all the birds are puffing up their feathers to keep warm so they all seem larger than they actually are, so I'm using plumage differences as well as size to differentiate between them.  Of Ivy, Princess and Joli - Ivy is smallest, has the darkest, fullest cap and the most white on his breast; Joli is bigger, blacker cap than Princess and has more white on breast than Princess and less than Ivy. Princess is about Joli's size but I think a bit more sleek (not bulky) but I can't be sure of that, just my impression. She also still should have lighter feathers on her "crown" and speckles that come up high on her breast.

Will keep watching ... the light will probably be poor today for band numbers but colours will help to narrow down the options ...
   black & male = Ivy (or Cowboy or Ty though unlikely)
   black/red & female = Joli (or Alice though unlikely)
   black/green & female = Princess
   black/green & male = Smiley

Any other combinations and we will have another mystery to solve!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bev. on April 08, 2013, 14:32
good luck  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 08, 2013, 19:28
So, do you think it's still a possibility that Princess could yet return to Winnipeg, TPC, or is it rather late to be hoping for this? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 08, 2013, 20:59
So, do you think it's still a possibility that Princess could yet return to Winnipeg, TPC, or is it rather late to be hoping for this? ???

Not when one of the Brandon birds just blew into town ... Alice arrived in Brandon much later a couple of years ago.  Now, whether or not she could reassert her dominance at the Radisson if Joli has moved in, I don't know.  Or maybe that is why we haven't seen many birds at the nestbox over the last couple of days.  Eventually our peregrines thoughts will go to nesting and we'll see who's where and with whom for this year ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Moonstar on April 09, 2013, 10:11
TPC, how  old is Princess?  I hate the thought that something might have happened to her.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 09, 2013, 10:41
TPC, how  old is Princess?  I hate the thought that something might have happened to her.

Princess hatched in 2002 from NSP Riverside in Minneapolis.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 09, 2013, 10:53
TPC, how  old is Princess?  I hate the thought that something might have happened to her.

Princess hatched in 2002 from NSP Riverside in Minneapolis.

I too, was wondering the same thing but was afraid to ask.  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Elaine L on April 09, 2013, 21:28
I feel the same way about wondering and asking.  I don't want to think about it.  I used to think that knowing what happens to our well-known and well-loved falcons is better than not knowing, but last year when S2 died at de Mortel, I wasn't so sure anymore...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 10, 2013, 12:30
Pretty sure I saw somebirdie on the 'a' of 'Radisson' west side just before noon. Only could see the tail feathers, they seemed to be facing the wall.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 10, 2013, 15:51
1551h

One of the birds, looks like Ivy without seeing "his" bands, sitting on the R on the west side of the hotel.
Can't see "her" anywhere at the moment.  "He" looks like he is enjoying the sun though ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: cocoa3c on April 11, 2013, 00:40
Hi All! Hi PC!

Wow, the birds are back already. Is it a bit early? It's still so cold and here in Thunder Bay, lots of snow. :( Has it been determined who is pairing up? I tried to read some of the posts, but sorry if it's already been discussed. I saw your vid of somebirdy cleaning out the nest. Another exciting year. Last year, I also watched the heron cam...a lot of action there, especially at night when owls tried to attack.

Looking forward to another cool breeding season!

Hug and God Bless,
Arlette/cocoa3c
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: mspeach on April 11, 2013, 19:40
I keep checking everyday hoping hoping and hoping that Princess has returned.

Where is Joli from??
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 11, 2013, 20:05
I think normally by now we'd have lots of activity & reports, but must be the crazy weather slowing things down - I'd love to see Princess again too - starting to think it's getting really late for that though.... :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 11, 2013, 22:11
... I'd love to see Princess again too - starting to think it's getting really late for that though.... :-\

Yup, I think you may be right ballywing - the end of an era, most likely. :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 12, 2013, 00:20
Haven't seen any females at the nestbox - Joli or Princess or whomever - over the last couple of days, just the male who I assume is Ivy still but he hasn't stayed around long enough to show me his bands ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 12, 2013, 12:22
If only the weather would cooperate with the falcons! Although, if they came up too early, they might not find enough birds to eat as they must also be returning more slowly.
The geese that have returned to my little lake in Southdale seem to be wandering around puzzled by the ice and lack of water! I hope they don't lay their eggs in the snow...
Here's hoping another day will bring back another birdie, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bccs on April 12, 2013, 14:21
A bird on the east ledge at 2:00 today. It was facing in toward the wall, but from the bit of the very white breast and the size of the bird my money is on a boy.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 12, 2013, 15:17
Ivy has been hopping in and out of the nestbox for the last 20 minutes like a crazed bird ... looks like he's trying to get his lady friend to join him.  Saw him this morning first thing in the box and nothing since and haven't seen a female in/at the box for a few days so he may be getting frustrated that his "come-hither" glances haven't been working so far.  The reticient of the female to join him in the box would make me think/suspect that its Joli still rather than Princess who is an old hand at nesting ... but we will have to see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 12, 2013, 16:46
Oh No!.... I hope Ivy doesn't end up with no mate this year!  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 12, 2013, 17:47
I can't imagine that!  Ivy has the best real estate and the prime territory in the land...maybe Joli got a text from Princess, letting her know that she's on her way ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 12, 2013, 18:47
Have to make a run downtown tomorrow, had a report of a dead raptor on a roof but from the description it doesn't sound like a peregrine and at the time, I believe we were in the middle of a pretty good head count - HSC was reporting in, I later watched Ivy trying to coax a lady into the box and the West Winnipeg birds are safely out of the downtown for the season.  But I have to check it out just in case ... plus, you never know who/what could be migrating through town ...

Thank you to the two spotters who reported the collision with the window on their office building.  Will let everyone know what I find tomorrow.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bccs on April 12, 2013, 19:23
Have to make a run downtown tomorrow, had a report of a dead raptor on a roof but from the description it doesn't sound like a peregrine and at the time, I believe we were in the middle of a pretty good head count - HSC was reporting in, I later watched Ivy trying to coax a lady into the box and the West Winnipeg birds are safely out of the downtown for the season.  But I have to check it out just in case ... plus, you never know who/what could be migrating through town ...

Thank you to the two spotters who reported the collision with the window on their office building.  Will let everyone know what I find tomorrow.]

hope all is well, again I've done this wrong - oy!



Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 13, 2013, 08:45
While downtown last night, my husband phoned me around 7:00 P.M.. He saw a large (female?) falcon sitting on the ledge of the East nest. As well, he spotted a falcon flying over Portage with a food delivery. He said it appeared smaller than the one on the East ledge.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Baffled on April 13, 2013, 09:49
While downtown last night, my husband phoned me around 7:00 P.M.. He saw a large (female?) falcon sitting on the ledge of the East nest. As well, he spotted a falcon flying over Portage with a food delivery. He said it appeared smaller than the one on the East ledge.  :)

Great report! That certainly sounds like Ivy's busy courting at the Radisson!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Cooper on April 13, 2013, 14:20
Anybody know anything about the falcon-looking kite-like thing that has been "flying" at the Hydro building? I'm guessing it is something that Hydro is using to dissuade the geese from nesting on the lower roof area. I just about had a fit when I saw the what looked to be a giant falcon flying reflected in the windows. It looked like a monster falcon! When I got closer I saw it was tethered by a wire and so couldn't be a live bird. But for a minute there...  ;D 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 13, 2013, 14:35
Have to make a run downtown tomorrow, had a report of a dead raptor on a roof but from the description it doesn't sound like a peregrine and at the time, I believe we were in the middle of a pretty good head count - HSC was reporting in, I later watched Ivy trying to coax a lady into the box and the West Winnipeg birds are safely out of the downtown for the season.  But I have to check it out just in case ... plus, you never know who/what could be migrating through town ...

Thank you to the two spotters who reported the collision with the window on their office building.  Will let everyone know what I find tomorrow.

Any word about the raptor? Hoping for good news. What are the chances the WW Winnipeg falcons will reclaim their old site?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 13, 2013, 15:03
Have to make a run downtown tomorrow, had a report of a dead raptor on a roof but from the description it doesn't sound like a peregrine and at the time, I believe we were in the middle of a pretty good head count - HSC was reporting in, I later watched Ivy trying to coax a lady into the box and the West Winnipeg birds are safely out of the downtown for the season.  But I have to check it out just in case ... plus, you never know who/what could be migrating through town ...

Thank you to the two spotters who reported the collision with the window on their office building.  Will let everyone know what I find tomorrow.

Any word about the raptor? Hoping for good news. What are the chances the WW Winnipeg falcons will reclaim their old site?  ::) ::)

Just got back and after checking in all sorts of obscure places, found the bird and it is NOT a peregrine - it looks to be a Cooper's Hawk - and yes, it died on impact with the building.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 13, 2013, 16:07
 :( :( So sad for this Coopers Hawk. I thought they nested in trees. Not where this happened. I wish windows could be covered in a coating that birds would stop thinking they could fly straight through. We have a large picture window and in our DR, another window. Many sparrows have tried to fly through and either died or have been stunned. This year, with vertical blinds, we hope to prevent this from happening. Still hoping that Princess will come home.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 13, 2013, 18:19
While downtown last night, my husband phoned me around 7:00 P.M.. He saw a large (female?) falcon sitting on the ledge of the East nest. As well, he spotted a falcon flying over Portage with a food delivery. He said it appeared smaller than the one on the East ledge.  :)
It's ok to hang around on the East Nest....but hopefully they remember to 'Nest on the WEST' !!  ;D

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: JP on April 13, 2013, 19:10
I'm so excited I can hardly type. We seen our first Peregrine on that pointy out thing on the east side of the Radisson Hotel downtown this after noon. The time was around 5:30 pm. Do they sit their more often when it starts to warm up ? Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm just so excited.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bccs on April 13, 2013, 19:59
Hi JP.
The ledge on the east side of the Radisson is a nesting site for the peregrines. Most don't like the site as there is no human access to it other than by window washer swing stage. So banding the chicks is quite a prodution. And expensive.
It's great for watching from the ground because it is so close.
But I think all would agree that wherever they choose to nest is great - another generation of Peregrines. And we get to be spectators of something remarkable and rare.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Jazzerkins on April 13, 2013, 20:48
gemcitygemini, the falcon on-line store has falcon silhouettes for sale.  I bought several of them and put them on my windows.  Since then, I have not had any bird(s) flying into the glass and hurting themselves.  The silhouettes are heavy plastic that cling to the window but can be removed and replaced at any time since they are not in any way glued to the window.  I would highly recommend these to anyone worried about birds flying into their windows.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 13, 2013, 22:28
... We have a large picture window and in our DR, another window. Many sparrows have tried to fly through and either died or have been stunned. This year, with vertical blinds, we hope to prevent this from happening...

Yes, Jazzerkins is right, gemcity. We have some of these raptor silhouettes stuck to our living room picture window and they do seem to act as deterrent, preventing birds from flying into the window. I would recommend them too.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: allikat on April 14, 2013, 11:19
Hi JP.
The ledge on the east side of the Radisson is a nesting site for the peregrines. Most don't like the site as there is no human access to it other than by window washer swing stage. So banding the chicks is quite a prodution. And expensive.
It's great for watching from the ground because it is so close.
But I think all would agree that wherever they choose to nest is great - another generation of Peregrines. And we get to be spectators of something remarkable and rare.
Great explanation bccs.  Yes, the East nest ledge is a wonderful way to view the falcons activity. I believe they also use that ledge for roosting as well...  However, yes, as bccs wrote, that location, although great for viewing for us humans, is, not so great for humans to access. However, when driving or walking by, seeing a Peregrine watching over it's territory from the East Ledge, (which I call, "the lookout"), is quite exhilarating. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 14, 2013, 13:46
Figures that today, after days of not seeing the female at all downtown (HSC but not at the Radisson), the stupid bird is in the nestbox with Ivy not twenty minutes before I arrive to clean the darn thing out.  I'm on the road when I could have gotten a really, really good look at her with the webcam!!! 

Anywho, nestbox has had most of the large debris removed, lots of small feathers and smaller bones in the box but I've managed to loosen up the gravel so it will be easier for the birds to a) make a scrape (Ivy had one already but it was pretty small) and b) give them more room undercover to actually scrape now that the bodies are gone.  Hopefully with the windy/snowy weather on its way, the wind will help to blow more of the small feathers out of the box.  I think we will replace the gravel at the end of the nesting season, it is started to get very concrete-like with all the remains and poop-art material.

The male gave me grief big-time when I arrived then he just glared at me from low up the communications tower.  Female arrive shortly thereafter, but parked herself up high - too high for me to see her band or photograph her well - I'm afraid no Dennis, Wowzer or Wannabe-Wowzer today and no spotting scope either - didn't want to hang out for too long if we still do have Joli as the de facto resident female, she's not used to what we do and I didn't want to stress/distress her more than I had to.

Nothing since my visit, but this isn't the time of day when they normally visit the box or ledge, so will keep an eye on the webcam and we'll see if we can confirm again who's our female at the Radisson.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: birdcamfan on April 14, 2013, 17:25
Hopefully after watching your careful housekeeping, they will now deem it suitable for the move in and make nookie part of the relationship.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: newchick on April 14, 2013, 18:25
:( :( So sad for this Coopers Hawk. I thought they nested in trees. Not where this happened. I wish windows could be covered in a coating that birds would stop thinking they could fly straight through. We have a large picture window and in our DR, another window. Many sparrows have tried to fly through and either died or have been stunned. This year, with vertical blinds, we hope to prevent this from happening. Still hoping that Princess will come home.
  Gem City Gemini, they sell clear stickers that one can put on the outside of the window, it is coated with a reflective thing that birds can see and it scares them away from the window surface.  Available at Shelmerdine's or Fort Whyte Centre.  Maybe Google if you don't live in the city for where you can purchase near by.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: photosbydennis on April 14, 2013, 19:49
Anywho, nestbox has had most of the large debris removed, lots of small feathers and smaller bones

I can only assume that you kept all bit's and parts for me so that I can sell to the Peregrine Folks on ebay  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 14, 2013, 20:43
:( :( So sad for this Coopers Hawk. I thought they nested in trees. Not where this happened. I wish windows could be covered in a coating that birds would stop thinking they could fly straight through. We have a large picture window and in our DR, another window. Many sparrows have tried to fly through and either died or have been stunned. This year, with vertical blinds, we hope to prevent this from happening. Still hoping that Princess will come home.
  Gem City Gemini, they sell clear stickers that one can put on the outside of the window, it is coated with a reflective thing that birds can see and it scares them away from the window surface.  Available at Shelmerdine's or Fort Whyte Centre.  Maybe Google if you don't live in the city for where you can purchase near by.

Also available from the Project from our Online Store  (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/estore/e-pfrp-store.html) - our silhouettes tend to be larger than many - 8.5in by 11in
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 14, 2013, 20:51
:( :( So sad for this Coopers Hawk. I thought they nested in trees. Not where this happened. I wish windows could be covered in a coating that birds would stop thinking they could fly straight through. We have a large picture window and in our DR, another window. Many sparrows have tried to fly through and either died or have been stunned. This year, with vertical blinds, we hope to prevent this from happening. Still hoping that Princess will come home.

Coopers do nest in trees and it is probable that this hawk was just flying through downtown.  From the report from our two eye-witnesses, it sounds like the bird was being chased by another raptor and considering the Trizec Building is two blocks from the Radisson, it was likely one of the peregrines.  And given it was likely trying to get away and that Portage & Main has whirlpool-like winds at time, it wouldn't have mattered what was on the window in this particular case.  And the Trizec windows are not reflective, they are dark tinted, so no reflection of sky rather a big dark object.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: newchick on April 15, 2013, 07:59
Anybody know anything about the falcon-looking kite-like thing that has been "flying" at the Hydro building? I'm guessing it is something that Hydro is using to dissuade the geese from nesting on the lower roof area. I just about had a fit when I saw the what looked to be a giant falcon flying reflected in the windows. It looked like a monster falcon! When I got closer I saw it was tethered by a wire and so couldn't be a live bird. But for a minute there...  ;D 

Apparently it is some kind of kite to scare away Geese from nesting on top of the Hydro building.  I am hopeful it will not scare away our Radisson residents though.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 15, 2013, 10:37
Apparently it is some kind of kite to scare away Geese from nesting on top of the Hydro building.  I am hopeful it will not scare away our Radisson residents though.

It's not actually on the top-top, that roof is not vegetated.  The rooftops they are talking about are only a few storeys off the ground and have seating areas and gardens.  The kite itself is not visible with the skycam but might be from the nestbox as it is further north on the building.  Being so low, it should be no more disturbing than firetrucks or people working on rooftops.

Of more interest will be the new apartment/hotel going in across the street from the MTS Centre and MEC.  Princess and Trey did not like the work on the MTS Centre but the Hydro Building (one block further away but much higher) didn't seem to phase anyone at all. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 15, 2013, 10:41
As I've said in previous years, birds have individual personalities and pairs have personalities. Princess, Trey, Ivy and Joli are all very different birds.  Princess and Trey were very different from their individual personalities and likewise different from Princess and Ivy and perhaps now Ivy and Joli.  The female was definitely in evidence and defending when I was cleaning out the nestbox but she may not be a big box visitors until it is time to actually lay eggs.  Or perhaps Joli has been supplanted and Princess is newly arrived home and not as hopped-up on happy hormones yet so not ready to even pretend to play "house" yet.

Unfortunately with the snow, I don't suspect that I will get much of a look at anyone today.  Usually Ivy visits the nestbox early in the mornings, but nothing at so far today.  But we will find out eventually ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 15, 2013, 10:44
Oh, and the cams will go live on May 15th at the latest.  Earlier if the birds get down to business earlier.  As per usual, last week or 10 days of incubation of our first nest is when both cams will go live.

This is barring any unanticipated technical difficulties of course!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 15, 2013, 13:11
Oh, and the cams will go live on May 15th at the latest.  Earlier if the birds get down to business earlier.  As per usual, last week or 10 days of incubation of our first nest is when both cams will go live.

This is barring any unanticipated technical difficulties of course!

Will be looking forward to it! I've always loved the cams but now with sound, they are even more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Ellie on April 15, 2013, 14:33
Hi everyone! So glad all the action is back. Sorry to hear that Princess may not return!  Not what we like to hear but a fact of life nonetheless. Another great summer ahead!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Pam on April 15, 2013, 15:01
Saw a peregrine on the corner of the Sterling bldg on a drive thru downtown around 11:30 today.  No idea who!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 15, 2013, 16:23
All quiet on the cams today ... still snowing at the Radisson  (it's been snowing for 12+ hours now) ... maybe tomorrow we'll have some visitors.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: dupre501 on April 15, 2013, 20:12
Quote
Apparently it is some kind of kite to scare away Geese from nesting on top of the Hydro building.  I am hopeful it will not scare away our Radisson residents though.

CBC had this on the Manitoba site today:  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/04/15/mb-bird-kite-geese-rooftop-nest-hydro-building-manitoba-winnipeg.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/04/15/mb-bird-kite-geese-rooftop-nest-hydro-building-manitoba-winnipeg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 16, 2013, 10:11
at 0600h this morning both the female and the male came to check out the snow in the nestbox and they both went all the way into the box to check it out and were there for a minute or two before the male left and then the female a minute later.  Unfortunately, I could see them in the dim light with the skycam but there wasn't enough light to be able to see on either the inside or outside box cams so I can't say what they were doing inside, just that they were inside.

Hopefully they will be back later to check it out again ..
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 16, 2013, 17:24
Okay, while Dennis and I were out today, we found a pair at HSC - not surprising - or rather we saw one bird that I thought looked like Joli (and it was) and then a male came in, ate some food, then the pair engaged in some exceedingly heavy canoodling.  Ah, young love  :)  Then Dennis checked his photos and it looks like Joli has made another choice than we had hoped for ... Smiley.   :o

There was an early morning visit today as I reported on in my last post.  No way to see who it might have been.  No visits since then and no visits yesterday.  But on Sunday, I have a clear view of Ivy and his band in the nestbox a number of times before I went up to clean out the nestbox.  And then when I was there, there was a female, but she was too high for me to tell who she might be but I'm sure the male was Ivy yelling at me from his usual perch.

So, is Joli just being a wee bit more bohemian than we are used to?  Or has she given up on Ivy?  Or has Ivy decided that Joli isn't who he is looking for?  And/or has someone new (female) turned up at the Radisson?  So many questions, such tiny little leg bands!  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bccs on April 16, 2013, 18:47
So, is Joli just being a wee bit more bohemian than we are used to?

Well, given that Ivy has produced many children with his mother, and that he left Jules for Mommy Dearest, I'm convinced that Peregrines are deeply lacking in morals and decent behaviour.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 16, 2013, 18:50
And didn't Jules have a brief fling with Ivy at the beginning of the season?!?   :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 16, 2013, 20:27
So, is Joli just being a wee bit more bohemian than we are used to?

Well, given that Ivy has produced many children with his mother, and that he left Jules for Mommy Dearest, I'm convinced that Peregrines are deeply lacking in morals and decent behaviour.

On the other hand, there is dear Beau hanging in with Jules trying to get her to nest in a nice nestbox but still she goes and nests in her "unsuitable" location.  Seems to depend on whether there are kids involved.  If there are, they are devoted.  If there aren't, then some consider other options. Ivy had a failed nest with Lucy, then he had a failed nest with Jules before finally giving up and trying his luck downtown.  Princess rebuffed him the first year he courted her, preferring to wait for Trey to return.  The next year, there was little waiting and Trey never returned and the rest is history.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 16, 2013, 20:34
Oh Jules, Pleeeeeaaase do not nest in that horrid location this year!!!  :o Hopefully Beau can make her see sense this time!  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 17, 2013, 10:34
I checked the recorder before work this morning to see what/who's been at the nestbox and it looks like Ivy is still in control.  He parked himself on the edge of the box at 2145h last night (Tuesday) and was there visibile until 0610 this morning.  He has been popping into the nestbox all morning.  I've been able to see his silver leg band all but one time and right now he is sitting sentinel on the Radisson sign and the box is empty.  This guy is not going to give up this box - good for him, it will ensure he gets a female at some point - Joli, Princess (maybe) or someone new.

It is not unusual for "new" pairs to take longer to court one another these birds all came home a week-ish late and we are only just approaching the time for eggs to be laid.  We have lots of time yet to see who ends up with who and where.

I'm going to keep rooting for Ivy keeping the Radisson though ...  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Moonstar on April 17, 2013, 12:03
I sure hope Ivy and a female can get together.  We need to have chicks at the Raddison.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 17, 2013, 13:35
approaching the time for eggs to be laid.  We have lots of time yet to see who ends up with who and where.

I'm going to keep rooting for Ivy keeping the Radisson though ...  :)

Am keeping my talons crossed. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 17, 2013, 14:04
Kijiji??  Match.com?  Plenty of Peregrines??
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 17, 2013, 14:30
I'm answering this one here as well as on the HSC/CSC thread since it applies ...

So, is it possible for a female to have eggs in the same clutch with different fathers??

Who knows, kind of out of my experience I'm afraid.  Closest I have is when T-Rex incubated his father's eggs when Pop disappeared mid-incubation. 

To be fair to Joli, I can't think when I last saw Joli and Ivy canoodling ... could be that Ivy is the one who has decided to wait for Princess and Joli has stopped waiting for Ivy.  Could be that what we are watching now is Ivy defending the nestbox from Smiley and Joli ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Moonstar on April 18, 2013, 12:03
All you watchers down town.  Any new updates on the Raddison birds?  Does Ivy have a mate yet?  Do you think we will have falcons to watch this year?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 18, 2013, 12:10
All you watchers down town.  Any new updates on the Raddison birds?  Does Ivy have a mate yet?  Do you think we will have falcons to watch this year?

All quiet on the western nestbox.  Looked like Ivy hanging out at the nestbox pre-dawn and then for a 90 second (literally) visit mid-morning.  Hopefully when the sun comes around the Hotel we will see a bit more of him either at the nestbox or on the sign below.  The spycam on the eastern side of the building has had a wee technical malfunction but Eye-Spy will be working to get it back up and operating when he is at the Hotel to do spring maintenance (and cleaning!) on the west side cams.  Then we will have cams in stereo at the Radisson again.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 18, 2013, 13:03
I'm not giving up on Princess until we've had a few days of warm weather...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bccs on April 18, 2013, 13:16
The male was on the east ledge at 12:15, but he's gone now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 18, 2013, 13:46
Ivy should take out a personal ad: young attractive bachelor, owns downtown penthouse, looking for a single female to start a family.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 18, 2013, 14:27
Ivy should take out a personal ad: young attractive bachelor, owns downtown penthouse, looking for a single female to start a family.  :-*

Need to include "has a good job" but that doesn't seem quite right for our little hunting machine ... what about "good provider"?  And would it be too much to say, "loves kids and happy to help around the house"?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: msdolittle on April 18, 2013, 16:56
Looks like someone is hanging out on the nest box ledge. I'm not close enough or good enough to say who.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 18, 2013, 23:47
I must admit, I'm feeling badly for Ivy.  He sits on this nestbox looking for someone and it seems like they are never coming.  Don't know if he's waiting for Princess or if Joli just isn't ready to come into the nestbox.  In any case, he hasn't been hopping into the box as often as he used to and it just makes me a wee bit sad to see him so patiently waiting when he's on camera.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 19, 2013, 00:16
Awwww  :-\ - Come ON!! - Princess preferably - or if not, then any other gal - Ivy is waiting for you!!   :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Shocka88 on April 19, 2013, 01:17
Let's hope Princess is thinking the way I am.....time to return home despite the cold weather.......and is also on her way. Poor Ivy is waiting for her or somebirdie to show up!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: birdcamfan on April 19, 2013, 12:02
I must admit, I'm feeling badly for Ivy.  He sits on this nestbox looking for someone and it seems like they are never coming.  Don't know if he's waiting for Princess or if Joli just isn't ready to come into the nestbox.  In any case, he hasn't been hopping into the box as often as he used to and it just makes me a wee bit sad to see him so patiently waiting when he's on camera.
At the beleef de lente site where the steenuil (screech owl) male died early in the season, Mrs Steenuil called patiently night after night for a suitor. It seemed to take forever but lo and behold a man turned up a couple of days ago. It's time for Ivy to start squawking and for us to not lose hope.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: gran2496 on April 19, 2013, 13:20
I've been following the posts with interest and have a question.  At first, I thought Ivy was a girl, but it turns out, he's a boy! Can anyone tell me why he has a feminine name?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: RCF on April 19, 2013, 13:32
I've been following the posts with interest and have a question.  At first, I thought Ivy was a girl, but it turns out, he's a boy! Can anyone tell me why he has a feminine name?

I found this in past observations, I hope this helps.  :)

Ivy's name is dynastic


http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/topic,651.msg12222.html#msg12222
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Mother Hen on April 19, 2013, 14:37
I am so missing not being down town any longer.......I will continue to read the blogs and check out the babies....Being retired is certainly different from working no soubt about it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Moonstar on April 19, 2013, 14:44
I am so missing not being down town any longer.......I will continue to read the blogs and check out the babies....Being retired is certainly different from working no soubt about it.

Congratulations on being retired.  Will miss your posts.
I wondered why we were not getting posts from you.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 19, 2013, 19:59
I am so missing not being down town any longer.......I will continue to read the blogs and check out the babies....Being retired is certainly different from working no soubt about it.

I sure miss your reports from your "bird's eye view", Mother Hen! :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: gran2496 on April 19, 2013, 20:35
Thanks for clearing up the names for me, the history is very interesting.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bev. on April 20, 2013, 10:52
I ivy could come over to Edmonton with Radisson. she has not a male yet. the weather, I believe is slowing down some returns. Depends on when they left.

We re missing several in Edmonton.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 20, 2013, 13:27
A bird was in and out of the nestbox this morning - looked like Ivy and I think I could see something light on his left leg.

Both Smiley and Joli have purple anodized bands on their right legs and their coloured bands black/green and black/red bands on their left legs, so it didn't look like either one of them.  Good to think that Ivy still has the nestsite.

Having said that, one of the times a bird was in the nestbox, I don't think it was Ivy, I think it might have been Joli but that is just a suspicion, the bird looked slightly bigger/rounder but that's just my impression.  Been glued to the cam ever since (under the weather today I'm afraid) in the hope that one or both might turn up again ... nothing so far ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 20, 2013, 14:57
I'm sorry you're not feeling well, TPC :'(

(Even though it means you're staying close to the cams to check out any possible action) ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 20, 2013, 16:05
Yes, this is the first year there's been such a delay in things 'getting going'! Never thought we'd have an empty nest at the Radisson, sure hope that doesn't happen !!!  :o (Feel better TPC!)  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 20, 2013, 23:17
...Been glued to the cam ever since (under the weather today I'm afraid) in the hope that one or both might turn up again ... nothing so far ...
Sorry to hear that, also, TPC... But I have been wondering something - if Ivy doesn't settle down with a mate at the Radisson very soon, is it possible that Smiley & Joli might try to take over the Radisson nest box? :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 21, 2013, 12:53
 >:( >:( This weather is getting on my nerves.  &%@%@%&$"?! Princess, we are patiently awaiting your arrival. Come home. :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 21, 2013, 13:47
Sorry to hear that, also, TPC... But I have been wondering something - if Ivy doesn't settle down with a mate at the Radisson very soon, is it possible that Smiley & Joli might try to take over the Radisson nest box? :-\

It's possible but I haven't seen Smiley at the box and I haven't seen any out-of-character behaviour from Ivy - he doesn't look stressed or defensive, he just parks himself on the edge of the nestbox and sits and waits.  Or he hops into the box and looks like he is trying to encourage someone to follow him rather than parking himself in the box to prevent someone from getting in.  I would think that by this point in a their romance (if there is one) that Joli and Smiley would be in the box consolidating their control of the site. We really will just have to wait and see what happens here this year ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 21, 2013, 14:14
Ivy must have nerves of steel and the patience of a saint. I sure hope his waiting pays off.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 21, 2013, 20:32
TPC, has there been a year when nobody set up house-keeping at the Radisson site? 

(I'm sorry if you've talked about this before, but I'm old and I forget things) ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 22, 2013, 15:04
I fear this year maybe be the "mad, the bad and the glad" ...

mad - I think the Radisson birds are going to nest on the nestledge this year ...
bad - Jules ... 'nuff said ...
glad - that Brooklyn and Hurricane are in Brandon doing just what they are so good at  ...

TPC, has there been a year when nobody set up house-keeping at the Radisson site?

Yes we have, the year before Princess turned up with Trey.  Same thing happened for three years in Brandon between Mufasa & Phoebe and Zeus & Ita then Holly.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 22, 2013, 15:31
Okay, I might be the one going made, but I'm not sure that I don't see a crown of light coloured feathers on the back of the female's head .... only one I know of who has that is Princess ... but I'm not close enough and she's not close enough for me to see her band.  Her band combination is left leg coloured band (which the female I saw earlier today had) and purple anodized band on right leg (Ivy's is black on right, silver on left).

If it is Princess and Ivy again, there is no reason for them not be using the nestbox other than perhaps the construction across from the MTS Centre.  We had the same problem when the MTS Centre was being built but not when the Hydro Building (despite being much taller) was being built.

No point in speculating on why if I don't have confirmed whos!!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 22, 2013, 15:33
 
BIG THANK YOU TO EYE-SPY AND DENNIS FOR FIXING ALL THE CAMS AT THE RADISSON.

Now have the spy cam to follow the birds around to the east and in particular, the outside-box-cam to read band numbers if/when birds hop into the box again!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 22, 2013, 19:21
Very exciting to think that there may be a possibility of Princess being back in town! :D Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bcbird on April 22, 2013, 21:14
I fear this year maybe be the "mad, the bad and the glad" ...

mad - I think the Radisson birds are going to nest on the nestledge this year ...

If it is Princess and Ivy again, there is no reason for them not be using the nestbox other than perhaps the construction across from the MTS Centre.  We had the same problem when the MTS Centre was being built but not when the Hydro Building (despite being much taller) was being built.

No point in speculating on why if I don't have confirmed whos!!


No, No!!!!!
 
Come on, Princess, don't let a little neighbourhood construction put you off the cushy penthouse.

Nest on the West!!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: allikat on April 22, 2013, 23:35
No need for anyone going, "mad".  Right now, thanks to Mother Nature and her punishment, anything is possible!  I have my own thoughts and feelings, but nature knows best! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 23, 2013, 09:01
Yup, nestledge it is this year. Was hoping that the one egg I saw there yesterday when the spycam came back online was going to be an abandoned egg, but no such luck.  Two eggs there this morning and an attentive parent ... don't know which one but hopefully both the adults will come visit the Radisson sign sometime today to show me their legbands.  Male is Ivy I am 99% sure (1% is because this year is squirrelly).  Yesterday was the first time I have thought a bird looked like Princess and it was immediate but I need to see this bird's bands it's just supposition.

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/149828445/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 23, 2013, 10:16
Wow! 2 eggs! :o But too bad they have been laid on the nestledge this year. I guess this could present a whole set of problems for you, TPC and a whole lot of expense to the project, if the eggs or chicks need to be rescued from inclement weather. Now we're all waiting with bated breath to find out who the female is.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Elaine L on April 23, 2013, 10:44
OMG, none of us can forget the disaster of 2008, when Princess nested on the ledge and the chicks drowned; I do not want to see a repeat of that awful day.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Baffled on April 23, 2013, 10:58
A roller-coaster of emotion from reading TPC's latest post:
YAY! Eggs!  :D
Boo, the ledge  :(

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: irenekl on April 23, 2013, 11:41
Well this sure dropped my jaw this morning :o  Brings up a few questions for me.  Who is this pair and if Ivy is the male then was he trying to lure the female up to the west box before she started laying?  During the time we were sad he was waiting just to have a mate? 
Was the bird occasionally sighted sitting on the east ledge the male or the female?
You may not be able to answer these questions but they are a few of the thoughts going around my head.

I'm so surprised that after the success of the west box any female would head over to the east ledge.  Which makes me wonder if this female is new to the area.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Moonstar on April 23, 2013, 12:03
Happy there are eggs.  Disappointed they picked the nest ledge.  Mostly disappointed because we will not have sound this year. 
Main thing is that the all is well with all the falcon family.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 23, 2013, 12:12
I am beginning to have doubts this is Princess. The nestbox was her domain. If this is true and Princess arrives, could there be a fight to lay claim to the Radisson? Happy the season has begun. Unhappy with the choice for the first eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 23, 2013, 12:21
Who is this pair and if Ivy is the male then was he trying to lure the female up to the west box before she started laying?  During the time we were sad he was waiting just to have a mate? 

Ivy was in the west side nestbox as recently as the 20th and I'm looking at the male right now and it sure do look like Ivy but I'll wait until he shows me some leg.  And yes, we were sad for the little terror and he was being led astray by a woman - but we already know he is a sucker for the ladies.  He kept coming to the nestbox and then looking expectantly, hopefully that someone was going to join him there and no one ever did.  Before yesterday, I hadn't seen a female at the Radisson since I was there tidying up on the 14th.  Hadn't seen a female in the nestbox for days before that as I recall.

Was the bird occasionally sighted sitting on the east ledge the male or the female?

No way to tell, though I'm inclined to say the female because even now Ivy doesn't appear to like sitting that low.  Every time I've spotted him on the east side he is up high.  That will change when incubation begins, but it will be interesting to see if he wants to incubate as much as he wants to when they are in the nestbox.  My inclination is to say that the female will do most of the incubating this year but I have nothing more than a feeling to back that up, we will just have to see.

I'm so surprised that after the success of the west box any female would head over to the east ledge.  Which makes me wonder if this female is new to the area.  

I'm of the opinion, given how hard Ivy tried to get the female in the nestbox (and he did try hard), that this female isn't new, that she knows about this ledge already.  Which is one of many things that makes me think this is Princess.  As for why the complete lack of interest in the nestbox after about the first week, I think it is the construction of the new hotel across from the MTS Centre - we had a similar lack of interest in the nestbox when the MTS Centre was being built.  I will be very interested to find out for sure who is at the Radisson though!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 23, 2013, 12:29
I am beginning to have doubts this is Princess. The nestbox was her domain. If this is true and Princess arrives, could there be a fight to lay claim to the Radisson? Happy the season has begun. Unhappy with the choice for the first eggs.

Actually, Princess has nested at the Radisson since since 2004 and if this is her, she has nested on the ledge more often than any of our other resident females: Maud never nested on the ledge (resident female for 3 years), Madame did twice (resident female for 13 years), Princess has 3 times (in 9 years), 4 times (in 10 years) if it is her again this year.

Will there be a fight ... I suspect that if the female at the Radisson isn't Princess, then Princess isn't coming home this year. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Cooper on April 23, 2013, 12:30
Well this is all just so surprising. I am out downtown almost every day and have rarely seen any of the birds in their usual spots or even in the air. Yet somehow we have eggs. I'll cluck along with everyone else about the east ledge concerns, but will at the same time assume the birds know more than we do and hope for the best.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 23, 2013, 12:34
I am beginning to have doubts this is Princess. The nestbox was her domain. If this is true and Princess arrives, could there be a fight to lay claim to the Radisson? Happy the season has begun. Unhappy with the choice for the first eggs.

Actually, Princess has nested at the Radisson since since 2004 and if this is her, she has nested on the ledge more often than any of our other resident females: Maud never nested on the ledge (resident female for 3 years), Madame did twice (resident female for 13 years), Princess has 3 times (in 9 years), 4 times (in 10 years) if it is her again this year.

 

Will there be a fight ... I suspect that if the female at the Radisson isn't Princess, then Princess isn't coming home this year.  

 :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 23, 2013, 13:16
One of the birds is on the Hydro sign ... they must be settling because this is the first sighting I've had on Hydro all season!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 23, 2013, 13:50
OMG - what a surprise!!!  :o- Is it Ivy & Princess?? .... ??? Is it Ivy & Joli?? So disappointed they've nested on the ledge  :( - it's just so much more unsafe for the 'kiddies' what with weather issues and fledging too. Plus the extra expense for 'Tupper Bin' installations and banding.  But GLAD to see we have eggs at least!!! - Can't wait to see who the 'gal' is and hope it's Princess!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bcbird on April 23, 2013, 16:30
Wow!  Eggs! We have eggs!

Amazing that no suspicion of Princess' return, let alone canoodling, occurred, yet eggs have been produced.

I would hope this is Princess, if Ivy could be jittery as a first time ledge Dad.

The bottom line is that we have eggs, and the season is on!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 23, 2013, 17:07
Colour me surprised, anxious and happy, all at the same time!

Good luck to our peregrines... and good luck to you too, tpc, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: transplanted maple on April 23, 2013, 17:11
Happy to hear that they have eggs. And sad that we will not have sound, this was my  call to the screen to check out what was happening...So, glad that Ivy had everyone fooled...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 23, 2013, 18:11
...as did Princess, for that matter!  Just arrive quietly and get down to the business of starting her family.   :)

(If it is Princess of course ::))
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Stormy on April 23, 2013, 18:19
Well, the game is afoot!  I'm thinking the freezing weather has something to do with the more clandestine canoodling that's been taking place.   8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: transplanted maple on April 23, 2013, 19:10
So true Susha and Stormy, but it is sure nice to know that there is a pair at the RAD.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: RCF on April 23, 2013, 19:22
 :) I'm glad to hear there is a pair of peregrines nesting at the Radisson, not so glad at the spot they chose.  ::)  
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bccs on April 23, 2013, 19:32
Only a few short days ago, many were concerned and downright fearful that the Radisson would not be a nesting site. Regardless of where the birds have decided to nest, we should be grateful that they have done so.
Each nest site has it's advantages and disadvantages.
West advantages - more and easier access for banding, cameras, and sound.
Disadvantages - not so many safe buildings to fledge to.
East, advantages, wonderful fledge buildings that make it easier for the fledgling to return to the nest.
East disadvantages, harder and more expensive to band, no sound and only one camera.
I'm thinking that the birds know what they're doing and really don't care what we think or feel.
Something in the female is telling her to nest on the ledge - that's what she did, and we have to be content with her decision.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: birdcamfan on April 23, 2013, 20:22
Oh cr@pitola! I hate the nest ledge.
Typical guy - sitting up in the shelter while the lady is out laying eggs in the cold.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Baffled on April 23, 2013, 22:17
Gotta love those peregrines for keeping the humans guessing and being coy with their canoodling and leg-displaying.

Seriously though, I'm thrilled to hear we have two eggs at the Radisson, no matter where the birds chose to nest. I'm sending best wishes for a successful hatch and fledge! The world needs more peregrines, because peregrines rock!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bev. on April 24, 2013, 00:58
hop e it is princess.
Radisson was hatched on the ledge
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: newchick on April 24, 2013, 06:27
:) I'm glad to hear there is a pair of peregrines nesting at the Radisson, not so glad at the spot they chose.  ::)  
So happy to hear about the eggs TPC!  I hope we can figure out who the parents are.  Nevertheless, the ledge will be a weather challenge.  But, P.F.'s in the wild just prefer the ledge.  Hope it all works out well.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Saoirse on April 24, 2013, 09:52
It's so exciting to hear that there are eggs at the Radisson and, with any luck at all, we'll soon find out who the parents are! TPC, I know that it's a worry to have them on the nest ledge -- as I remember it, you had said a couple of years ago that, with the nest ledge being relatively close to the ground, it doesn't give the fledglings as many good possibilities for their initial gliding/flying experiments. My fingers are firmly crossed!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Moonstar on April 24, 2013, 10:07
Only a few short days ago, many were concerned and downright fearful that the Radisson would not be a nesting site. Regardless of where the birds have decided to nest, we should be grateful that they have done so.
Each nest site has it's advantages and disadvantages.
West advantages - more and easier access for banding, cameras, and sound.
Disadvantages - not so many safe buildings to fledge to.
East, advantages, wonderful fledge buildings that make it easier for the fledgling to return to the nest.
East disadvantages, harder and more expensive to band, no sound and only one camera.
I'm thinking that the birds know what they're doing and really don't care what we think or feel.
Something in the female is telling her to nest on the ledge - that's what she did, and we have to be content with her decision.

We look forward to your updates bccs.  You have the perfect view of the nest ledge when you are at work. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 24, 2013, 10:19
1012h

Think it is Ivy on the nestledge standing guard over the eggs - the breast looks too large and white to be the female (whomever she might be).  Why guarding, he doesn't really need to except that there is alot of window-cleaning going on in downtown Winnipeg right now - the CanWest Global Building at Portage & Main (sorry, can't remember what its new name is now) as well as the Kensington Building.  Depending on how frisky the birds are in the snow (yes, it is snowing in Winnipeg right now) and/or how protective they are of their two rust-coloured-bundles-of-aggravation, the Kensington cleaners might have some "company" because they are using a lift rather than bosun's chairs.  Could be fun to watch ...  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 24, 2013, 10:43
1048h

Think the window cleaners are going to wait out the snow ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Pam on April 24, 2013, 11:11
This is one of the few times I (almost) regret not being at work!!  Had such a good view of the ledge....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: irenekl on April 24, 2013, 12:01
Tracy I am wondering how long you think the two eggs were on the nestledge?  When you saw them was that also your first look at the nestledge this year?  Do you have an approximate idea when they were laid?  Is the timing such that you are expecting a third egg anytime now?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Cooper on April 24, 2013, 13:56
Well, someone was out stretching their wings. I've been feeling rather cheated that while I've been walking about downtown on most days, I had rarely seen the Radisson birds. But I was finally rewarded - saw someone fly up to the very tip top of that contraption on the Hydro building about 1:00 p.m.. Couldn't tell who it was with my old eyes, but was happy to see him/her.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 24, 2013, 13:59
With the choice of the nestledge to lay eggs, I sincerely hope it is our infamous "Mumbrella"  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 24, 2013, 15:58
Tracy I am wondering how long you think the two eggs were on the nestledge?  When you saw them was that also your first look at the nestledge this year?  Do you have an approximate idea when they were laid?  Is the timing such that you are expecting a third egg anytime now?

First egg was laid on April 21st, second on April 23.  Expect third (if there is one) tomorrow or Friday and if there is a fourth, it should be laid by the end of the weekend.  Incubation should start shortly after egg three is hatched, but if the weather really does turn as warm as they say, the parents may hold off a bit and start just before egg 4.  They have a month's worth of incubation ahead of them, so sometimes pairs will stall a bit before getting down to business  if the weather is favourable.  Forecast is for 14C Friday, 17C Saturday, 18C Sunday, 13C Monday then rain and 9C on Tuesday.  However, the nestledge is on the east side of the building so away from the afternoon sun, so they might not wait to start incubating ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 24, 2013, 16:13
1614h

Look up, look way up folks.  Male and female at the Radisson are sitting together on the east-side sign
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 24, 2013, 16:17
TPC, with our cold nights, can the eggs freeze?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 24, 2013, 19:45
TPC, with our cold nights, can the eggs freeze?

They could ... which is probably why the female has just parked herself on the eggs, I'm assuming for the night.  I should say that I was able to watch the birds just before she dropped down onto the nestledge and her eggs ... he was/is sitting on the west-side nestbox in the setting sun, she was sitting on the "n" in Radisson on the east side doing some preening.  Both sides seem to equally be buffetted by the wind so it was just preference in this case.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 24, 2013, 19:46
Note about the female ... definitely not Joli.  Her band is black over green - which for those of you with good memories, is Princess' colour combination.  Male is black on right leg, silver on left, so our Ivy is still around.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: photosbydennis on April 25, 2013, 06:32
Birds and band info  http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/birds_and_bands
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 25, 2013, 08:50
0849h

Egg number 3 on the nest ledge.  Incubation should start in the next 24 hours I would suspect but we will have to see with the warm weather on the way ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 25, 2013, 09:02
0902h

All the family in one place - male (Ivy) is on the south corner of the ledge, female (pretty sure Princess) is on the peak of the ledge), three chicks-in-waiting in the north corner.

Why would I bother posting this?  Not often you have both adults that close to one another except during defense or the hand-off of incubation/brooding/feeding duties.  I think the male is just making sure no one (Smiley/Joli perhaps) interferes with his family.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 25, 2013, 09:55
I am so happy to hear that it is sounding more and more likely that the female here could be Princess. :D But nesting on the east nestledge - too bad about that, TPC. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: SuzieQmb on April 25, 2013, 10:04
I've been reading posts for a few weeks now, but this is the first time I've logged in to post!!  Happy spring everyone - looks like it may finally be here!!

I've also been eagerly awaiting eggs!  I was sad with Ivy, and now I'm happy that it looks like Princess appears to be back!  That fateful day a few years back was got me interested in the falcons, so this will be my first year watching them on the ledge rather than the nest box.  Hoping all goes well......
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bev. on April 25, 2013, 10:54
Well we know Tracy is good with the Tupperware :-* :-*
by the way is tupper back at Selkirk. I better go over there and check
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 25, 2013, 10:56
Well we know Tracy is good with the Tupperware :-* :-*
by the way is tupper back at Selkirk. I better go over there and check

We are considering a TupperNest again for the Radisson but no decisions on that yet.
And nothing in Selkirk yet - and it's Ty, Tupper's brother who was there last year  ;)
We are keeping our fingers crossed though.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 25, 2013, 11:16
1116h

Looks like Ivy is on the eggs ... I would say that incubation has begun but we will watch through the day ...
Princess is on the east side Hydro sign in the sun ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Falcon watcher on April 25, 2013, 12:35
I was trying to remember and I could not locate it anywhere (probably mised it), but is Princess the only one that we are aware of with the green band?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 25, 2013, 13:08
I was trying to remember and I could not locate it anywhere (probably mised it), but is Princess the only one that we are aware of with the green band?

Not quite.  Sandy from Fargo is a floating female who has spent some time here and she has a black/green band.  Though it doesn't apply here, Smiley from Grand Forks also has a black/green band.  That is one of the reasons why we think it is Princess (band colour and some so-far unique feather patterns on her head) but we can't confirm until we see her leg band.  Eventually we will know for sure :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 25, 2013, 13:08
1308h

Looks like incubation is underway, a bird (Ivy I think) is still on the eggs on the nestledge ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 25, 2013, 14:11
Am so hoping this is Princess back again. It would prove that she's wise enough to wait out the coldest weather. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 25, 2013, 14:13
Princess, if that's you - WELCOME BACK!!  :-* - You may have a challenging season ahead of you so hope you had a good restful winter!!! - If the East Ledge is your choice this year (  :-\ ) then you're the best one to handle that. We'll be rooting for you all!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 25, 2013, 16:55
 :-* :-* Would be so happy to hear that our Radisson Royals are together again. Would be happier if they  (Princess?) chose the nestbox.
We need to throw a "baby" shower for the 2013 eggs. Speaking of showers, weather going up into + double temps tomorrow. That could mean Spring showers, finally! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 25, 2013, 18:34
Princess, if that's you - WELCOME BACK!!  :-* - You may have a challenging season ahead of you so hope you had a good restful winter!!! - If the East Ledge is your choice this year (  :-\ ) then you're the best one to handle that. We'll be rooting for you all!!  ;D

Well put, Bally!  ditto ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Saoirse on April 25, 2013, 19:21
- If the East Ledge is your choice this year (  :-\ ) then you're the best one to handle that. We'll be rooting for you all!!  ;D


I'll join Susha in saying "ditto" to that, Ballywing! If it IS Princess, I thought she'd gotten smarter in the last couple of years, but you're right that she's probably the best one to handle the location. She may be playing "Mumbrella" more often than she remembers!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Helen b on April 25, 2013, 19:22
yes we should throw a baby shower with a money tree so that we can pay for the expenses that come wiht nesting on the ledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 25, 2013, 22:29
Hopefully TPC can get a Tupperbin up there, it makes a great difference during those heavy spring rains. The Peregrine Recovery Program will need a boost from some donations this season methinks!!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bev. on April 26, 2013, 01:17
let us know . always willing to help :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 26, 2013, 10:20
Donations are of course, always welcome.  We are having to rethink some of our plans for this year, and there will be expenses that is for sure.  And if we have extra funds, they will be used for new or repairing nestboxes so good works all the way around.

But back to the birds  ;)

Confirmed that Ivy is still our resident male at the Radisson this morning.  He was preening in the sun on the sign while "Princess" was on the eggs below.  And he showed me his band and I managed to get a screen capture! Very cooperative of him ... hopefully at some point in the next little while, she will be as obliging.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: newchick on April 26, 2013, 12:13
1308h

Looks like incubation is underway, a bird (Ivy I think) is still on the eggs on the nestledge ...

Oh, how exciting!   ;D ;) :D :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 26, 2013, 17:10
Well, here's hoping that with the nice weather that is predicted for the weekend, "Princess" (or whatever PF it is) will show you her bling, TPC. ;) Sure would be settling to have her positively ID'd.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 26, 2013, 22:29
Well, here's hoping that with the nice weather that is predicted for the weekend, "Princess" (or whatever PF it is) will show you her bling, TPC. ;) Sure would be settling to have her positively ID'd.

She let me look at her for awhile this afternoon but she was too far away to see her bands.  She needs to be a few letters closer to the camera.  Tomorrow's another day ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 27, 2013, 12:24
Our Princess, if it is her, has never been an easy going, eager to please falcon. Here's hoping she let's you get the info we're all waiting to hear.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 27, 2013, 15:49
Our female was sitting on the east side "slash" but still not close enough for me to see her bands.  She looked good though, first time I've had a decent chance to look at her.  She's been on the eggs for most of the day but they are uncovered at the moment and yesterday at 6pm we still had 3 eggs, today we have a fourth so we are moving along just the way we are suppose to, or rather the peregrines are  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: GCG on April 27, 2013, 16:21
Our female was sitting on the east side "slash" but still not close enough for me to see her bands.  She looked good though, first time I've had a decent chance to look at her.  She's been on the eggs for most of the day but they are uncovered at the moment and yesterday at 6pm we still had 3 eggs, today we have a fourth so we are moving along just the way we are suppose to, or rather the peregrines are  ;D

Thank you, TPC for this update. Hope that our fertile female allows you to place a name for the forum. This is going to be a difficult year for you, Eye Spy and Dennis.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: RCF on April 27, 2013, 17:47
Thumbs up on the four eggs!!   8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bcbird on April 27, 2013, 18:00
Very nice to hear that our female is in good physical condition. 

Not bad for an older gal, if indeed it is Princess!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 28, 2013, 09:42
What good news, a healthy mama, four eggs and incubation has started :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 28, 2013, 14:49
It is definitely spring here finally - it is warm enough that even in the shade, the eggs are uncovered and I can't see the adults.  I'm sure they are around, they are just not parked beside the scrape or ledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 29, 2013, 11:32
Rain & Snow & Wind predicted tomorrow..... >:( here's where the fretting begins wtih no shelter on the East Ledge - Hope 'Princess'? & Ivy took their vitamins over the winter!!  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 29, 2013, 11:55
Wind is blowing "Princess" about but not much, think between the building and where the vent cover is now the adults get more protection from north/northwest winds.  And she has tucked the eggs up right against the wall so she doesn't have to keep her head fat to keep from getting tossed off the eggs.

As for the rain and snow, not the first time for Princess if it's her.  And honestly, getting wet and cold serves her right for choosing the darn ledge.  The eggs should be fine even if they are uncovered a bit, they are water-resistant and it isn't really cold, just the potential to be messy.  The adults are going to pay for it more, but hey, they chose the view.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Feather2Fin on April 29, 2013, 18:00
Hope I can figure out how to post a photo.  ???

Once a year a peregrine visits us where we live in the Osborne Village.  I assume that it is likely a Radisson Falcon but who knows.  It could be an HSC falcon.

I give up I have no idea how to post the photo. Darn!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Baffled on April 29, 2013, 19:53
I give up I have no idea how to post the photo. Darn!

Feathe2Fin, go to the "how do I post photos" board under the "Forum" board right at the top of the Forum hompage. Instructions are posted:

http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/board,239.0.html

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 30, 2013, 09:35
(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/149944907/medium.jpg)

Wet bird on eggs at the Radisson this morning ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 30, 2013, 09:52
Wondered if anyone was taking cover in the nestbox with this rain/snow/sleet stuff and no one there right now but there has been a bird in/on the nestbox pretty much all night.  Can't tell who of course though the assumption is that it is Ivy given his preference for the box but it was much too dark to be able to be sure of anything including size.  The only thing I can say is that the bird had a white breast and looked to be male sized.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Moonstar on April 30, 2013, 10:01
Poor Princess (if it is her) all wet sitting on the eggs.  It is sure raining hard here in Fort Garry.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: moka on April 30, 2013, 12:15
Watching that poor wet bird, soaked through, brings back sad memories. Here's hoping the weather favours these peregrines soon.
They will need all of their energy and spirit.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: ballywing on April 30, 2013, 12:46
Any plans on a Tupperbin this year TPC? - I remember last year and the year before, saying to myself more than once - THANK HEAVENS they're in the West Nest this year, as this downpour would have been REAL trouble on the East ledge. - Never thought they'd go back to that ledge....sigh.... :-[
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: dupre501 on April 30, 2013, 12:49
Glad these birds are here and not in Dauphin right now.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/04/30/mb-snow-storm-dauphin-manitoba.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/04/30/mb-snow-storm-dauphin-manitoba.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Kinderchick on April 30, 2013, 14:03
Yikes! Not snow again! Too bad for the people & wildlife in Dauphin! :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 30, 2013, 18:07
Any plans on a Tupperbin this year TPC? - I remember last year and the year before, saying to myself more than once - THANK HEAVENS they're in the West Nest this year, as this downpour would have been REAL trouble on the East ledge. - Never thought they'd go back to that ledge....sigh.... :-[

We are looking at it Ballywing but nothing while the weather is bad and nothing early in incubation so that the birds are fully committed to the eggs they have.  In 2009, we put the tuppernest under the eggs just a couple of days before hatching.  If we do the same this year, I would prefer not to cut it that close but we will see.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on April 30, 2013, 20:23
Poor wee birdie asleep in the sleet/snow on the ledge - think it might be Ivy but its hard to tell because of the way the bird is curled up on the eggs.  Checked the west side cams to see if anyone was hanging out within site and couldn't see anyone - couldn't see anything with the skycam, the rain/sleet has formed an opaque film on the environmental case so will have to wait until a) gravity kicks in if it is soft enough or b) it melts.

The nestbox is dry and snow free at the moment ... sometimes its hard to figure out what a peregrine is thinking ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: susha on April 30, 2013, 20:41
NUTS!!!  I'm just glad that the kids are still eggs, being kept warm by their loyal dad and not-so-bright mom.  (Sorry if it's you, Princess, but this year, Ivy has the brains in the family ::))
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Saoirse on April 30, 2013, 23:01
NUTS!!!  I'm just glad that the kids are still eggs, being kept warm by their loyal dad and not-so-bright mom.  (Sorry if it's you, Princess, but this year, Ivy has the brains in the family ::))

Oh yeah! If this IS Princess, can't imagine why she'd go back to the nest ledge when she has such a nice dry alternative. And there's no shade on the nest ledge once the heat hits. Definitely not one of her better moves! Fingers crossed that it all works out well, despite this wintery start.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: Liz on April 30, 2013, 23:12
I had a flashback today, looking out the office window at the east-side ledge as the rain poured down.  If only the PFs figured out to stick to the box...  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: allikat on April 30, 2013, 23:36
Here's to "Princess", and her experience on the East nestledge.  Keep in mind folks, there have been a lot of successful fledgings from that ledge, including, Trey!  Things happen for a reason and there is no reason to worry about the unknown.  Nature has it's own way of making things work out.  Let's all embrace and acknowledge that, and, enjoy what's to come!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / April
Post by: bcbird on April 30, 2013, 23:50
We certainly do have experienced parents in Ivy and (likely) Princess.
All that there is to do is wait and see!
Title: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 01, 2013, 01:43
Trying this again. Sorry only one shot of this year's peregrine (the first picture- you can tell because it looks like winter). I was at work and my husband took the photo with his phone.  The other pics are from a few years ago.  Thank you for the tips on posting photos.

(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a570/Pam2506/photo_zps09ae8255.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/Pam2506/media/photo_zps09ae8255.jpg.html)

From TPC: Have tweaked F2F's code  :) 
If you click on the photo you can visit the rest of her gallery.
2013 looks like Ivy, and while I think her 2010 visitor is Princess, I'm going to check her "speckles" just to be sure.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 01, 2013, 10:33
Whoa feather2fin!!!  Those pictures with a falcon outside your window?!!  And your cat just on the other side of the glass watching it?!!  I'm amazed and chuckling at those shots :D

Fantastic!
Title: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: SuzieQmb on May 01, 2013, 10:44
Wonderful pictures!  I can't imagine how cool it would be to have one so close!!!!
Title: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 01, 2013, 11:38
Incredible photos, F2F. If these were taken with a phone camera, I can't imagine how they would look if taken with a camera. Dennis, RCF, you may just have another protegee in your midst. Looking for more photos, F2F. Welcome to the forum.  :) :-*
Title: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Saoirse on May 01, 2013, 14:59
F2F, these photos are all so good -- although it's not the best one of the falcon, I do love the one with the cat!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jan on May 01, 2013, 16:22
Love the pictures, F2F!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 01, 2013, 17:16
Today has been a whole lot of the same thing.  Only once do I think I saw Ivy on the eggs, the rest of the time it's been "Princess" and she looks velcroed to them.  At the moment she has her tail pushed up against the wall and she looks out of the wind.  Unfortunately, there is snow again flying about but I can't see if it is accumulating anywhere so perhaps tomorrow morning won't be as bad as this morning!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 01, 2013, 17:21
Sorry, realized I hadn't posted this yet ....

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/149967052/original.jpg)

Yesterday it was poor wee bird, today it is dopey snowy bird  ;) ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Pam on May 01, 2013, 17:45
Trying this again. Sorry only one shot of this year's peregrine (the first picture- you can tell because it looks like winter). I was at work and my husband took the photo with his phone.  The other pics are from a few years ago.  Thank you for the tips on posting photos.

(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a570/Pam2506/photo_zps09ae8255.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/Pam2506/media/photo_zps09ae8255.jpg.html)

From TPC: Have tweaked F2F's code  :)  
If you click on the photo you can visit the rest of her gallery.
2013 looks like Ivy, and while I think her 2010 visitor is Princess, I'm going to check her "speckles" just to be sure.

I've sent you a PM with my location and what I think may be yours.

Do you have a falcon there right now?  I think I may be looking at the same spot from a slightly different perspective!  Will post a photo later!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 01, 2013, 17:50
Wonderful pictures!  How lucky are you, F2F, to have such visitors!?! :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Pam on May 01, 2013, 18:05
F2F, these photos are all so good -- although it's not the best one of the falcon, I do love the one with the cat!

Me, too, Saoirse - the cat shots are great.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 01, 2013, 18:57
Love your photo's Feather2Fin. Your cat looks like it has the same colouring as mine. (black tortoiseshell)  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Pam on May 01, 2013, 20:22
The falcon we were watching moved to another balcony on the west side of the bldg, and now has taken off for .....?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 01, 2013, 22:07
Wow F2F! Those are amazing photos! Imagine having a PF land on your balcony! And what fabulous photos with your cat watching it through the window! :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Pam on May 01, 2013, 22:54
Falcon sighted in Osborne Village earlier this evening:

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss261/Farlanex/Falcon-0233_zps2342473a.jpg) (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Farlanex/media/Falcon-0233_zps2342473a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Pam on May 01, 2013, 22:56
Another view in the same spot, then he/she moved to a different balcony:
(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss261/Farlanex/Falcon-0223_zpsf575c086.jpg) (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Farlanex/media/Falcon-0223_zpsf575c086.jpg.html)

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss261/Farlanex/Falcon-0278_zpsb596ba0b.jpg) (http://s582.photobucket.com/user/Farlanex/media/Falcon-0278_zpsb596ba0b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jo on May 02, 2013, 07:24
Pam & F2F - your pics are great - love the one with the cat! Last year the crows were landing on the balcony tormenting one of my cats.

The sun is supposed to come out today, but it sure doesn't look like it now
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 02, 2013, 07:55
Pam & F2F - your pics are great - love the one with the cat! Last year the crows were landing on the balcony tormenting one of my cats.

The sun is supposed to come out today, but it sure doesn't look like it now
  Yes, I agree.  Nice pictures.  I too love the cat/falcon pictures.  The juxtaposition of the scenario can be felt.  TPC have we had any luck identifying the "hen" yet that's up at the Radisson this year?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 02, 2013, 09:49
All the nesting action may be going on on the east side of the building but the real excitement happens about 0500h on the webcam on the west side.  Every night Ivy roosts on the edge of the nestbox and I haven't been able to figure out if he's doing it because for the first time he isn't nesting in the box so he's guarding it or whether its just his preference.  I think its the former.  At about 0500h the last few mornings, he gets dive bombed by what looks like peregrines.  Its a blur and a flash in the dark but that's what the silhouette looks like.  And he doesn't budge.  They take a few high-speed flybys and he holds his ground then after a bit he leaves ... to follow or because he feels he can leave I couldn't say.  But he leaves and no one turns up at the box or in the box or at the ledge or on the sign, the box is basically empty and alone all day unless Ivy comes back to hang out on it, which he mostly doesn't.  Or at least not until about 2200h, when he parks himself on the box edge and remains there pretty much all night until the 0500h bombing run.  Now, if I had to take a guess, I would say this was Cowboy trying to assert a little dominance but it doesn't seem to be working.  One scenario I am going to have to check out though is that the bomber might be his female wanting him to take over on the eggs, but that would be highly out-of-the-ordinary.  We don't have a recorder on the east-side camera yet, but we will soon, and I'll hopefully be able to check both sides at the same time.  Or I'll just have to get up a oh-dark-thirty and watch it in person ...  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: dupre501 on May 02, 2013, 10:45
Interesting ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 02, 2013, 15:24
We don't have a recorder on the east-side camera yet, but we will soon, and I'll hopefully be able to check both sides at the same time.  Or I'll just have to get up a oh-dark-thirty and watch it in person ...  :-\

Hope things work out and that you don't have to be on duty at oh-dark-thirty!

Ivy seems like a very strong and determined bird. His great genes are continuing on...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 02, 2013, 17:19
Or I'll just have to get up a oh-dark-thirty and watch it in person ...  :-\

TPC, are we not coming into the season when you don't sleep anyway...? ??? ;D ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 02, 2013, 20:20
I'd be game to go out there some morning and observe from one side if someone else wants to do the other side.  Could be kinda fun.  If you get curious enough Tracy before the recorder is on just let me know. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bev. on May 03, 2013, 23:57
still no positive ID
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 04, 2013, 13:34
The female is spending of her time on the eggs, which is not unlike Princess.  At the beginning of incubation she is very dominant, then she lets Ivy take over more of the duties and then she takes over more of the time as the eggs get closer to hatching.  The other problem is that I need her to park her butt either on the east side sign or the west side nestbox.  The east-side camera, the spycam, is on the 30th floor and the next ledge is on the 13th, so there is no way to even see legband colours let alone numbers.  Soon we will have a camera installed on the 15th floor on the east side and if we don't get her identity before then, the new camera will give us more opportunities.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 04, 2013, 14:09
I think we're all assuming it's Princess, who else could it be  ??? - If it's not her, what a surprise that will be!!  :o - (YAY!!! - New Camera!!  ;D )
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 04, 2013, 19:38
I think we're all assuming it's Princess, who else could it be  ??? - If it's not her, what a surprise that will be!!  :o - (YAY!!! - New Camera!!  ;D )

Couldn't have said it better!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 05, 2013, 08:40
 I have been busy and away from the discussion and my computer for a bit. But, I wanted to thank all of you for your kind comments about the falcon photos.  BTW - Only the one posted by TPC was taken with a phone.  A camera was used for the others and that peregrine seemed quite content to pose and relax in the sun.  It was very special to see one up close. Peregrines are beautiful birds!

My cat, Bijoux,  is often the one who notices a visiting peregrine first. She will suddenly flatten like a pancake and sneak across the floor and up the wall below the window, so she can sneak a peak.  She definitely knows this is a bird of prey! Can't wait for the camera to go live. Let's hope it is a successful year for all of the chicks. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 05, 2013, 12:13
I have been trying to tell if there is a new scrape in the Radisson nestbox and after much combing through the recordings, I can say that there is and that from what I can tell (examining changes in pebble patterns), the scrape was initially made the night of May 29/30 and that I believe it has been tweaked as late ad May 3rd.  And the culprits are, I belive, Joli and Cowboy.  Does that mean they are going to nest there?  Don't think so, Ivy appears to be defending the nestbox at night pretty well - on May 1st he just velcroed himself to the box around two am despite another falcon trying to knock him off!  No visitations to the nestbox over the last couple of nights but one visit to the end of the nestledge where that cam is set up.  Can I be sure of any of the identities, of course not, oh-dark-thirty and all that  ;) but Ivy and Princess are the only ones who have a vested interested in keeping other birds out of the nestbox and the "defender" I've been watching looks too small to be Princess, but whether or not she has been helping Ivy defend, I can't say, that appears to be taking place off-camera.

Like we need more drama here ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 05, 2013, 12:29
I have been trying to tell if there is a new scrape in the Radisson nestbox and after much combing through the recordings, I can say that there is and that from what I can tell (examining changes in pebble patterns), the scrape was initially made the night of May 29/30 and that I believe it has been tweaked as late ad May 3rd.  And the culprits are, I belive, Joli and Cowboy.  Does that mean they are going to nest there?  Don't think so, Ivy appears to be defending the nestbox at night pretty well - on May 1st he just velcroed himself to the box around two am despite another falcon trying to knock him off!  No visitations to the nestbox over the last couple of nights but one visit to the end of the nestledge where that cam is set up.  Can I be sure of any of the identities, of course not, oh-dark-thirty and all that  ;) but Ivy and Princess are the only ones who have a vested interested in keeping other birds out of the nestbox and the "defender" I've been watching looks too small to be Princess, but whether or not she has been helping Ivy defend, I can't say, that appears to be taking place off-camera.

Like we need more drama here ...

I can say that there is and that from what I can tell (examining changes in pebble patterns), the scrape was initially made the night of May 29/30 and that I believe it has been tweaked as late ad May 3rd.

TPC, you are overworking yourself already. Scrape-May 29/30? Since our Royals appear to have nested on the East ledge, You, Eye Spy and Dennis have your work cut out for you this season.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 05, 2013, 13:31
WOW - Imagine having one family on the Radisson East Ledge and another family in the West Nest!! - What an exciting Peregrine season THAT would be downtown!  :o I guess that couldn't happen though, these birds are too territorial.... ??? And poor Ivy is probably quite discombobulated about his former digs not being used by HIM this year.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 05, 2013, 21:25
It is a good thing Ivy is a young and energetic PF, if he faces double duty of providing for a family this season on the ledge, as well as defending the nestbox for the future family home.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 05, 2013, 22:42
Hmm... Well I wonder if Ivy might have 2 families to feed, if he has previously shown an interest in several different females? Wasn't there a PF in the East who did that? A male PF who courted and fathered chicks from 2 different females? Can't remember which PF that was. Anyway, just a thought. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 05, 2013, 22:55
Hmm... Well I wonder if Ivy might have 2 families to feed, if he has previously shown an interest in several different females? Wasn't there a PF in the East who did that? A male PF who courted and fathered chicks from 2 different females? Can't remember which PF that was. Anyway, just a thought. ;)

That would be Jack from Etobicoke at the Sun Life Centre.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 05, 2013, 23:22
Hmm... Well I wonder if Ivy might have 2 families to feed, if he has previously shown an interest in several different females? Wasn't there a PF in the East who did that? A male PF who courted and fathered chicks from 2 different females? Can't remember which PF that was. Anyway, just a thought. ;)

Not unless he manages to kill or drive off Cowboy which is unlikely given Ivy's personality.  He's a good male but he's not hyper-aggressive - his father was more and his grandfather was off-the-scale.   Cowboy on the other hand is aggressive, we've watched him with the crows and ravens that nest in the areas he likes.  He doesn't even have a nestsite or eggs/chicks to defend and you'd think the crows/ravens were trying to steal his offspring the way he goes after him.  I suspect that it was Cowboy who was going after Ivy at the nestbox.  Cowboy got his name because of his death-defying flying skills - something great to watch, something wonderful to pass along to another generation, but I'd prefer if he didn't take out one of our other falcons ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Rose on May 06, 2013, 08:47

And I thought he got his name from his band number C over sidewise Y
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 06, 2013, 11:26

And I thought he got his name from his band number C over sidewise Y

In part, the other part was because of the way he rides the wind - first time we saw him do his death deflying dives amidst buildings, trees and traffic we couldn't believe how effortlessly he did it.  Scared the pants off us and we've watched alot of birds do their thing but Cowboy is an artiste.  The C and Y on his band made it easy to remember who he was if we saw his band again.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Rose on May 06, 2013, 11:47

And I thought he got his name from his band number C over sidewise Y

In part, the other part was because of the way he rides the wind - first time we saw him do his death deflying dives amidst buildings, trees and traffic we couldn't believe how effortlessly he did it.  Scared the pants off us and we've watched alot of birds do their thing but Cowboy is an artiste.  The C and Y on his band made it easy to remember who he was if we saw his band again.

Thank you. :) I take it from your above post that he went nameless until he showed up in Winnipeg in 2011. If he is that spectacular then he really does Brandon proud! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 06, 2013, 12:55
Thank you. :) I take it from your above post that he went nameless until he showed up in Winnipeg in 2011. If he is that spectacular then he really does Brandon proud! ;D

We couldn't find a name for him in the records and he so impressed us the first time we saw him (yup, he was trying to kill something at the same time as he was courting Kate) that we knew he needed a name.  Also, he's from the old lineage, pre-Princess and Holly so it was nice to see him!  He reminds me of his uncle T-Rex most of all.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 06, 2013, 15:48
as of 1545h, female is velcroed to the eggs just as she has been all day.  Doesn't look like hte wind is bothering her much but she does have her butt to the wall so that could be keep the wind from slipping under her tail feathers.  She's having a look around so it might be time for a shift change ... if we are lucky and it is, maybe she'll come up and sit on the sign so I can admire her plumage and her bling ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 06, 2013, 17:25
If it looks like a Princess and acts like a Princess...  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bev. on May 06, 2013, 20:26
we are heading out to Winnipeg tomorrow so I hope I can catch a glimpse of these guys.

had to make sure my Alberta nests were covered first
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 06, 2013, 20:54
we are heading out to Winnipeg tomorrow so I hope I can catch a glimpse of these guys.

had to make sure my Alberta nests were covered first

Have a safe trip bev.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 06, 2013, 20:56
2100h, female is sitting on the sign but not showing me her bands and the light is going down ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 07, 2013, 08:18
2100h, female is sitting on the sign but not showing me her bands and the light is going down ...

It's almost as if she wants to keep us guessing... ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Saoirse on May 07, 2013, 09:35
TPC, have you ever had a year before when it took so long to identify one of the nesting birds? At this rate, the chicks are going to be hatched and banded before we know the identity of the mother!  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 07, 2013, 14:32
TPC, have you ever had a year before when it took so long to identify one of the nesting birds?

Oh lots - all before the webcams and when I was actually working for the Project and had 18 hours a day to sit and watch and wait for a bird to move.  We have gotten more than a little spoiled with the webcams and cameras like Wowzer.  Not that I'm complaining, we also have more birds now than we had back then.  There are lots of projects that aren't/don't manage to identify birds for years - there are any number of reports where it is assumed that the bird that has been nesting at a location is the same one that has been there for years, but a band number isn't read for years.

At this rate, the chicks are going to be hatched and banded before we know the identity of the mother!  ::)

Maybe when we band them Dennis will be able to get a band number with the help of Wowzer or Wanna-be-Wowzer ..
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 07, 2013, 14:57
A little hoovering going on on the nestledge in the warm afternoon weather.  Looked like the female despite the fact that she had her head stuffed in a corner and was working very diligently.  Four eggs is our final total for this year and they all look good from what I can see with the spycam.  The nestledge cam will be installed in the next few days so we will have a new view on this year's little family soon enough.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 08, 2013, 12:33
Wind though it is blowing briskly and gusty, doesn't seem to be giving the incubating adult much trouble (female I believe by the size - the spycam is getting whacked by the wind).  Winds suppose to die down tonight.  Weather in Winnipeg not as good as the Brandon weather over the next few days but not bad either.


Today, 8 May  - Mainly sunny. Wind north 40 km/h gusting to 60. High 13. UV index 6 or high.  Tonight - Clear. Wind north 30 km/h gusting to 50 becoming light early this evening. Low plus 2.
Thursday, 9 May - Sunny. High 15.
Friday, 10 May - Cloudy. Low plus 4. High 11.
Saturday, 11 May - Sunny. Low plus 1. High 6.
Sunday, 12 May - Sunny. Low zero. High 15.
Monday, 13 May - Sunny. Low 10. High 28.
Tuesday, 14 May - Sunny. Low 13. High 28. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 08, 2013, 18:20
Can you remind me when we might ::) ::) have cameras in Brandon and Winnipeg Radisson? Can't wait.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 08, 2013, 18:42
Can you remind me when we might ::) ::) have cameras in Brandon and Winnipeg Radisson? Can't wait.


May 15th is the scheduled time for the cams to start operating.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: dupre501 on May 09, 2013, 12:26
If you go to the CBC falcon cam site, they have the date listed really big. You can't miss it.
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/falcon/ (http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/falcon/)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 09, 2013, 17:54
I can't believe I am actually going to say this but  :-[  ... holy cats the Radisson birds are boring this year.  They aren't doing anything within camera range.  No napping, long hours without shift changes, almost never do I see them chowing down and only once have I seen them hoovering.  And there isn't even any weather drama (knock on wood there continues not to be any).  I can't wait for the chicks to hatch if only to have something exciting to watch!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 09, 2013, 20:31
Okay, take it back.  Nothing much interesting on the east side of the building but between 0500 and 0530 today, someone was on the edge of the box again and then had a visitor, then got buzzed by a blur and then he took off after the "blur".  Don't know if it's Ivy on the box annoying Cowboy or Cowboy on the box annoying Ivy.  Either way, someone was very very annoyed first thing today!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 09, 2013, 20:58
So interesting, this...

I wonder what's gong on?? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 09, 2013, 22:01
I'm so happy that Ivy is strongly defending next year's nest site!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 11, 2013, 16:28
Nestledge cam is installed and up and operating!  Thank you Eye-Spy and Dennis!

Female on the eggs ... male/Ivy checked us out as we were working ...

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/150125803/medium.jpg)


This year we will be able to flip between four cameras again - two on the west side (skycam & outside box cam) and two from the east side (spycam and nestledge cam).  Very cool to be able to watch both sides simultaneously!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: birdcamfan on May 11, 2013, 17:07
Thanks, thanks, thanks to TPC, Eyespy, and Dennis!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 11, 2013, 18:33
And more thanks to Dennis who managed to get a photo of Princess' band on the tower ... seems SHE was watching us, not Ivy ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 11, 2013, 19:14
And more thanks to Dennis who managed to get a photo of Princess' band on the tower ... seems SHE was watching us, not Ivy ...

Way to go Dennis!!  Better late than never! Welcome home Princess!!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Doreen on May 12, 2013, 08:06
Yea Dennis!!  Welcome home Princess!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 12, 2013, 09:47
 :D :D :D Yeah, welcome home Princess  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 12, 2013, 10:38
Fantastic news that you've ID'd Princess as the female at the Radisson!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: MayShowers on May 12, 2013, 11:03
Yea Dennis!!  Welcome home Princess!!
:D  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 12, 2013, 11:15
And more thanks to Dennis who managed to get a photo of Princess' band on the tower ... seems SHE was watching us, not Ivy ...

Thank you so much Dennis for the photo that confirms our Princess has come home.  :-* :-* The Radisson Royals are here. Let the season officially begin. All our falcons are still a happy family.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 12, 2013, 12:13
And more thanks to Dennis who managed to get a photo of Princess' band on the tower ...
That is, indeed, wonderful news to have Dennis finally confirm that our Princess is back at the Radisson! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 12, 2013, 13:47
WooHoo!!! - SO glad to have Princess officially back  ;D - a little finger wag for her choice of lodgings this year  :-\ - but never mind that -  it's great to have photos and can't wait for the cam this week!!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: mspeach on May 12, 2013, 19:26
OMGosh.....Is Princess on the ledge near the ground where her babies drowned a few years ago?    I had pictured her up high on the building around the corner from the nest box.   Wonder what went through her head to get her to nest that low down!!

So glad it's Princess who has returned!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jo on May 12, 2013, 19:39
Good job on identifying our mystery lady!

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Shocka88 on May 12, 2013, 19:43
My thanks to TPC, Eye-Spy, & Dennis. So happy that Dennis got Princess ID'd........wonderful news!    :)  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Pam on May 12, 2013, 20:11
Good one, Dennis!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: joey on May 12, 2013, 21:55
I haven't stopped smiling since I read that Princess is back!!!!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 13, 2013, 09:06
Very windy today but doesn't seem to be bothering the adults much, at the moment it looks like Princess asleep on the eggs and the camera is shaking but her feathers aren't being ruffled much, or at least not right now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 13, 2013, 11:06
Wind has gotten worse downtown, the camera is really shaking and the birds are tucked down tight on the eggs but look to be out of the wind for the most part.  Just have to be careful to keep their tails down otherwise they get tipped over!  It is sunny in Brandon but not here yet, still overcast though the sun is bright through the clouds.

Good thing the cams aren't live yet, not much to see because of the wind at the Radisson today, and looks like tomorrow!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 13, 2013, 12:43
Lots of wind downtown still but there is also now some sunshine on the nestledge.  Won't last for too much longer however as the sun will shortly pass around to the west side of the hotel.  Princess looks to be enjoying the sun though ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: soaring west on May 13, 2013, 19:49
 :)Happy to hear that it is Princess back for sure..
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 13, 2013, 20:34
Woo hoo! So wonderful to finally catch a glimpse of Princess incubating her eggs this season! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jo on May 13, 2013, 20:41
She's looking quite content

Edited to add: she's been looking up and around - she must hear the sirens. A couple of emergency vehicles just came from downtown headed south on Osborne with sirens blaring.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 13, 2013, 20:42
Yes she is, Jo. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 14, 2013, 00:29
Cam is live early!! - Yay!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RaptorGal on May 14, 2013, 08:47
Nestledge cam is installed and up and operating!  Thank you Eye-Spy and Dennis!

Female on the eggs ... male/Ivy checked us out as we were working ...

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/150125803/medium.jpg)


This year we will be able to flip between four cameras again - two on the west side (skycam & outside box cam) and two from the east side (spycam and nestledge cam).  Very cool to be able to watch both sides simultaneously!

Hi Phanatics!  great to be back after the winter.  Great to see Princess and the nestbox.  Can I ask, what is the "pere-phantacage" in the corner of the nestbox?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 14, 2013, 09:02
Hi Phanatics!  great to be back after the winter.  Great to see Princess and the nestbox.  Can I ask, what is the "pere-phantacage" in the corner of the nestbox?

It's an cover for a drain, they are standard on rooftop drains.  They help to keep debris etc from clogging up the drain as I understand it - like the wire mesh some folks put in their eavestroughes to stop leaves, acorns, etc from stopping up their downspouts.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 14, 2013, 11:06
Yipppeee, the cams are live!

Huge thank you to everyone who makes this possible.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 14, 2013, 11:08

It's an cover for a drain, they are standard on rooftop drains.  They help to keep debris etc from clogging up the drain as I understand it - like the wire mesh some folks put in their eavestroughes to stop leaves, acorns, etc from stopping up their downspouts.

Too bad it doesn't do anything to stop the nest ledge from flooding if it rains hard and we have wee ones :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 14, 2013, 11:48
Do you have plans for a "Tuppernestbox" here, TPC? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 14, 2013, 12:20
Do you have plans for a "Tuppernestbox" here, TPC? ???

At the moment, no Kinderchick.  We are thinking that we will just let Princess, Ivy and the soon-to-be-chicks be until we need to disturb them to band them and hope that Mother Nature is ambivalent and that Princess continues to do what she does best.  Having said that, there is more gravel on the roof (remember we emptied out the tuppernest) and it is deeper in that corner such that there is a decent scrape showing there right now.  Princess and Ivy are experienced adults and they chose to forgo the nestbox this year so we are thinking we will just let them do what they do best for the time being.   Chicks are due to hatch about the 25th, some light rain is forecast in the next two weeks (most before the hatch date) and temperatures are in the mid to high twenties range around the hatching.  The implied part of your question Kinderchick is "could we put a tuppernest in place if we decided we had to" and the answer to that is that yes, we do have plans for that, but it will depend on the availability, weather, equipment, timing etc. so even with a plan, we could still be unable to put it into action.

Sorry, not the straight forward answer I think you were hoping for ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 14, 2013, 12:59
Princess has given up on Ivy for a food drop. The eggs are alone for now. There appears to be two large eggs and two small. TPC, does that have anything to do with the sex of the chicks? Two females, two males?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 14, 2013, 13:33
Princess has given up on Ivy for a food drop.

She was hanging out on the Radisson sign above the nest

There appears to be two large eggs and two small. TPC, does that have anything to do with the sex of the chicks? Two females, two males?  ??? ??? 

Nope, has more to do with the depth of the scrape and the angle of the camera  ;)
Eggs are all the same size - no gender differences and watching them for the last couple of weeks, none have looked smaller or "different".  The lighter coloured ones tend to be the older eggs, first and second to be laid.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 14, 2013, 13:35
Princess was with the eggs for a short time. She started giving a shoutout again, gave up, went to the ledge and took flight. I have still not seen Ivy. Has Ivy brought food or allowed Princess to go "shopping" for herself?  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 14, 2013, 13:41
Princess has given up on Ivy for a food drop.

She was hanging out on the Radisson sign above the nest

There appears to be two large eggs and two small. TPC, does that have anything to do with the sex of the chicks? Two females, two males?  ??? ???  

Nope, has more to do with the depth of the scrape and the angle of the camera  ;)
Eggs are all the same size - no gender differences and watching them for the last couple of weeks, none have looked smaller or "different".  The lighter coloured ones tend to be the older eggs, first and second to be laid.

Thank you for your response to my question, TPC. It is going to be an informative season, however, a very busy one for you. Phrom your phanatic phorum, we say, in advance, THANK YOU!  :) :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 14, 2013, 13:42
Just so folks know, that is Ivy on the eggs right now, guess Princess was just making sure he got down to business before she went off to do her business ..
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 14, 2013, 13:45
Just so folks know, that is Ivy on the eggs right now, guess Princess was just making sure he got down to business before she went off to do her business ..

Thank you so much for this info, you are the best!  :) :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 15, 2013, 10:28
Heard your interview on CBC, great job, Tracy, I am sure more people will become phanatics after this.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 16, 2013, 13:12
Okay, we had an interloper in the west side nestbox yesterday ... Joli was in make a scrape inside right at the back of the box.  Early this morning, two birds on the box for only a minute and then gone.  It really could only be Joli and Cowboy but no way to tell in the gloom pre-dawn. 

We are likely going to block off the nestbox to prevent Cowboy and Joli from seriously considering this site ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: soaring west on May 16, 2013, 13:17
Have we heard anything about the 3 that had transmitters on from last year, and how they are doing?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 16, 2013, 14:35
Okay, we had an interloper in the west side nestbox yesterday ... Joli was in make a scrape inside right at the back of the box.  Early this morning, two birds on the box for only a minute and then gone.  It really could only be Joli and Cowboy but no way to tell in the gloom pre-dawn. 

We are likely going to block off the nestbox to prevent Cowboy and Joli from seriously considering this site ...

Sounds like a good plan.  Let's have no territorial battles ongoing.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 16, 2013, 14:57
Have we heard anything about the 3 that had transmitters on from last year, and how they are doing?

Only one bird from the Radisson had a transmitter, that was McDermot and as far as we know he is roaming around with a transmitter that doesn't work more than it does.  Last we heard was in January I believe and he was in Tennessee.

There were two West Winnipeg females with transmitters and I have posted information on them on the West Winnipeg board ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: soaring west on May 16, 2013, 19:25
Ty TPC
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: SuzieQmb on May 17, 2013, 10:48
I'm missing the sound this morning.....there's some definite squawking going on there now!!!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Eye-spy on May 17, 2013, 14:37
I'm missing the sound this morning.....there's some definite squawking going on there now!!!!

There is no sound. You are hearing Brandon sound.  Winnipeg has no sound this year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: SuzieQmb on May 17, 2013, 14:46
I worded my comment poorly - what I meant was not that there was a technical glitch resulting in me having no sound, but that I was wishing we did have it this year, because it would be fun to hear the squawking that was going on!  My heart is missing it  :(.  I know the location they chose means that we won't get sound in Winnipeg this year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 17, 2013, 16:54
The location they chose means alot of 'not so great' stuff unfortunately - including the soggy looking Princess I'm seeing on the cam right now...  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 17, 2013, 17:21
The location they chose means alot of 'not so great' stuff unfortunately - including the soggy looking Princess I'm seeing on the cam right now...  :-\

sigh, you are so right but I imagine this wild bird likes being out there with no covering over her head. Silly but courageous bird. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 17, 2013, 18:53
She may even be very pleased with herself for avoiding what she perceived this season as a hazardous nest site.

Despite causing inconvenience and anxiety to humans she rarely recognizes as worthy of attention, she may be deeply content to be nesting in a familiar and usually successful nesting site.

Ah, Princess!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 17, 2013, 19:07
Yes I'm sure it bothers us more than them - let's just pray for no sudden downpours in the next month or so!!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 17, 2013, 20:58
Not so content I'm afraid, she and Ivy are not pleased that Cowboy and Joli are still looking to nest within the Radisson territory ... just a couple of minutes ago Princess bolted off the eggs and it wasn't for a shift change - can't say for sure that this "bolt" was because of Cowboy and Joli but possibly.  We do know that Ivy has been keeping a close eye on the nestbox when he's not on duty ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 17, 2013, 21:00
Yup, Ivy was just at the nestbox and Princess was on the eggs ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Eye-spy on May 17, 2013, 22:14
Hee hee hee hee hee.   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 09:42
Ivy's been hanging out on the nestbox on and off through the night and this morning ... Princess has been on morning egg duty ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 10:31
1022h

Shift change at 1011h - Ivy is on-duty.  If it rains I expect Princess to push him off and take over mumbrella duties ... not raining here yet and less rain possible here than in Brandon according to the forecast.  Air temperature isn't bad, 14C.  Bit of a breeze at the moment at the nestledge but not bothering the birds too much.


Forecast for today (from the U of Wpg weather station)

Day - Overcast with rain in the afternoon. High of 19C. Winds from the ESE at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 60%.
Night - Overcast with thunderstorms. Fog overnight. Low of 10C. Breezy. Winds from the East at 10 to 20 km/h shifting to the NNE after midnight. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 12.7 mm possible.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 11:03
Very short shift for Ivy, he took over at 1011h and then left abruptly (but not in a mad dash) at 1024h and Princess returned at 1025h.  Maybe the rain is closer than we think?  Or Ivy is making sure his territory is "his" ... hard to know if anything is going on or whether he was responding to Princess' orders.  We are getting closer to hatching but it is still a bit early for her to not want to leave the eggs - usually these two hatch out at about 30 days and that would be 25th.  Either way, Princess is back on the eggs, settled and has her head in the gravel fitfully napping ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 18, 2013, 12:07
Okay, we had an interloper in the west side nestbox yesterday ... Joli was in make a scrape inside right at the back of the box.  Early this morning, two birds on the box for only a minute and then gone.  It really could only be Joli and Cowboy but no way to tell in the gloom pre-dawn. 

We are likely going to block off the nestbox to prevent Cowboy and Joli from seriously considering this site ...

Has the blocking off happened, TPC?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 18, 2013, 12:23
Too bad, it's a waste of the best nesting site in town - but not much else TPC can do I guess, we don't want a war going on!  ::) - Hope Cowboy & Joli find a good site for themselves!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 12:28
Has the blocking off happened, TPC? 

Not quite yet, we are a bit leery of disturbing Ivy so close to hatching since he spends much of hist time keeping an eye on the Princess, the nestledge, the nestbox and the rest of the immediate territory around the nestsite.  At the moment we are watching the cameras (3 on the west side, 2 on the east) and constantly checking the recordings to make sure we know what (if anything) is going on where.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 18, 2013, 12:37
Does Princess spend any time at the nestbox, defending or otherwise? 

Or, are her maternal instincts narrowing her focus to protect only the current nesting site?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Rose on May 18, 2013, 13:25
Has the blocking off happened, TPC?  

.  At the moment we are watching the cameras (3 on the west side, 2 on the east) and constantly checking the recordings to make sure we know what (if anything) is going on where.

If anything untoward was going on, is there anything you could do to intervene or would you just have to stand by and watch and leave nature to take its course (in spite of having 5 cameras)?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 18, 2013, 13:25
TPC, so many details to be taken care of. Second guessing these birds seems to be getting more complex rather than easier.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 15:16
Does Princess spend any time at the nestbox, defending or otherwise? 

Or, are her maternal instincts narrowing her focus to protect only the current nesting site?


If I've made it sound like the Radisson eggs/chicks are in imminent danger, sorry about that, so far as we can tell, the nest is safe.  And life on the nestledge seems to be proceeding as per normal.  Princess has always done most of the incubating/brooding and that seems to be the case again this year.   Because Cowboy and Joli look to want to nest this year (unlike last year) and HSC is within the Radisson territory and because there is/was another pair hanging out from time to time near Pam's place, Ivy is spending more time this year making sure his nestsite remains his and Princess'.   Part of doing that we've been watching at the west-side nestbox.  As soon as Cowboy and Joli get on eggs or abandon the idea of nesting this year, it should get a little quieter because they will be focussed on a smaller area around the nest and if the timing works out, the Radisson chicks will be fledging about the time any Cowboy/Joli eggs would be hatching and that might keep tensions lower ....

... but we will have to wait and see what happens ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 15:32
If anything untoward was going on, is there anything you could do to intervene or would you just have to stand by and watch and leave nature to take its course (in spite of having 5 cameras)? 

That would depend on what is going on Rose.   We have installed the tuppernest in a spot we know they have been considering in the hope that ups its kerb appeal so they will not decide to stray further afield.   We are keeping an eye on all the places we can - in-person and via camera to monitor what the birds are up to - more information will help us figure out what we need to watch out for and help us to identify what we need/can do.  If you are asking if we can stop the peregrines if they start fighting, the answer is no.  It's why we try to ensure there is space between nestsites if we can pull it off.  But fighting is pretty extreme even for peregrines, way too easy to get hurt and that is not something they court willingly.

So we keep watching on-site and on-camera (and running through the recordings) so if there is something we need/can do, we do it.

Does that answer your question?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 15:38
TPC, so many details to be taken care of. Second guessing these birds seems to be getting more complex rather than easier.

New birds are fun but new birds means we can't guess what they will do/how they will react, which is fun as well so long as they don't  insist on making iffy choices ... but, Jules isn't a new bird and her major choice is constantly iffy!!  This year we got a mix of new and old birds so its not been too bad despite our concern about Cowboy and Joli, but that's not entirely new, we've been watching them closely since Cowboy turned up with Kate in 2011.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 15:40
The rain has arrived in Winnipeg but it isn't heavy ... still wet though  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 16:36
1600h

Princess is asleep on the eggs with her head in the pebbles.  Rain doesn't seem to be bothering her in the least.  Ivy is on the edge of the nestbox, he's just as wet as Princess but he's got one foot tucked up and is just keeping watch over his domain.  And all is quiet on the western front.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Rose on May 18, 2013, 17:34
If anything untoward was going on, is there anything you could do to intervene or would you just have to stand by and watch and leave nature to take its course (in spite of having 5 cameras)? 



Does that answer your question?

 Pretty much and of course I know there can be no intervention if there is a dust up.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 18, 2013, 18:12
Still raining.
Princess looks wet, and is doing the intermittant eyelid thing.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 18, 2013, 22:37
If anything untoward was going on, is there anything you could do to intervene or would you just have to stand by and watch and leave nature to take its course (in spite of having 5 cameras)?  

Does that answer your question?

Pretty much and of course I know there can be no intervention if there is a dust up.  

If there is a dust-up (I like that), it will be over before we'd be able to do anything.  And "over" meaning finished fighting, mostly they only last a few minutes and smart birds extricate themselves before they get hurt - the whole "live to fight another day" thing, that's a big part of an individual's and a species' survival hard-wiring.

As I said, we are just keeping an eye on two pairs that are both looking to nest close to one another.  

From Princess' overall behaviour on the nestledge we don't see any real cause to worry about the nest, she's relaxed, napping and doing her thing.  Ivy keeping an eye on the nestbox may be one-part Cowboy & Joli & the "other" pair in his territory, it could also be that that is "his" box - the one he hatched from and the only site he has ever nested at/in/on.  And of all our birds, Ivy is the only one who willingly goes all the way inside the box - when it rains hard, he hangs out inside with the kids, Princess never goes inside the box unless she has to cover the eggs/chicks.  In fact, Princess lays her eggs half-in/half-out.  Madame always nested on the outside, Maud was like Princess, half-in, half-out and Madame and Maud had a smaller box.

It was a quiet day - Princess and Ivy traded a couple of times, were calm and quiet and napping on the eggs in the rain.  Ivy hung out on the nestbox for a couple of hours but he too was relaxed, one foot up and cat-napping for much of the time.  That is very normal peregrine at the nestsite behaviour.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 19, 2013, 09:55
Forecast for today

Day - Overcast. High of 23C. Breezy. Winds from the NE at 15 to 30 km/h.
Night - Overcast with a chance of rain. Low of 12C. Breezy. Winds from the ENE at 15 to 25 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 19, 2013, 17:40
That is one Soggy Soggy Soggy WET Princess...  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Sue on May 19, 2013, 18:35
Looking at 40 to 50 mm more rain by Tuesday morning according to the Weather Network!! :P  Princess sure chose the wrong side this year, good thing it is happening now instead of after hatching. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Liz on May 19, 2013, 18:39
It feels like an April shower here, cold rain and brisk wind.  Too bad it's may 19th! 
I'm so glad we know Princess is a fierce mum. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 19, 2013, 19:09
Poor wet birdie!

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radisson2.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 19, 2013, 19:17
Yes, that Princess sure is one wet birdie. Forecast on the CBC website now says rain till Thursday. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 19, 2013, 20:31
Yes, that Princess sure is one wet birdie. Forecast on the CBC website now says rain till Thursday. :(

Though they look smaller when wet, I actually think that perhaps the birdie on duty in the photo below is Ivy ... he's usually on at this time before Princess takes over for the night ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2013, 10:50
It was dry overnight and Princess looked great when it was light enough to see her just after 0500h. Rain started again after 0630h and she's been "on" all day and probably overnight as well.  We are only a few days away from our estimated hatch date and she typically starts doing most of the incubating so while it might be a bit early with the combination of rain and cooler temperatures, she may just have started early.  Every time I have seen the eggs I haven't seen any problems so all seems to be progressing well if wetter than usual.

Forecast for Victoria Day Monday

Day - Overcast with rain. High of 15C. Windy. Winds from the NE at 25 to 35 km/h. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 13.2 mm possible.
Night - Overcast with rain, then a chance of rain after midnight. Low of 5C. Windy. Winds from the NE at 25 to 35 km/h. Chance of rain 70% with rainfall amounts near 5.1 mm possible.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 20, 2013, 11:19
Princess made a 180 degree turn reshuffling the eggs.  Using her killer talon in an amazingly delicate way, the last egg was placed to her satisfaction and she settled into a bit of pebble picking.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2013, 11:34
Did a little digging for those who are concerned about the rain and are having visions of Black Friday (June 6, 2008)

According to the University of Winnipeg's weather station *

Yesterday's (May 19th) precipitation = 6.1mm  (5.8mm at the Forks)
Today's forecast is for for up to 18mm for the day ... on Saturday we were forecasted to get up to 13mm and we only got 6.3mm (6.2mm at the Forks)

So the rain might be annoying, but even if we get the max over the next 24 hours, it will still only be annoying for the birds.  Chance of more rain on Tuesday but they aren't giving possible amounts and Wednesday through Friday no rain, Saturday a chance again (but we are getting a few days out there so that will likely change) but much warmer into the 20s.  Extended forecasts (2 sources) are for drier and warmer days with reduce POPs (possibility of precipitation) for much if not all of the Radisson chicks first 10 days.  But yes, forecasts can change but it looks good so far ...


* I like using the U of Wpg's weather station because it too is surrounded by buildings, some lower, some higher.  There is nothing wrong with the weather station at the Forks, but it is more open there and I figure that has to have an influence on the numbers - just my impression and the numbers are close, so I'll stick with the U of Wpg site
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 20, 2013, 12:37
Princess made a 180 degree turn reshuffling the eggs.  Using her killer talon in an amazingly delicate way, the last egg was placed to her satisfaction and she settled into a bit of pebble picking.

Love your description, I can just see her doing it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 20, 2013, 13:08
Did a little digging for those who are concerned about the rain and are having visions of Black Friday (June 6, 2008)

According to the University of Winnipeg's weather station *
  • June 5 - no precipitation
  • June 6 - 58.2 mm  (the Forks reading was 46.8mm) - this is 1/4 of all precipitation in June but 2x more than any other rain event in the month - ALSO more than 25mm fell in one hour between 11am and 12noon.
  • June 7 - less than 0.5mm

Yesterday's (May 19th) precipitation = 6.1mm  (5.8mm at the Forks)
Today's forecast is for for up to 18mm for the day ... on Saturday we were forecasted to get up to 13mm and we only got 6.3mm (6.2mm at the Forks)

So the rain might be annoying, but even if we get the max over the next 24 hours, it will still only be annoying for the birds.  Chance of more rain on Tuesday but they aren't giving possible amounts and Wednesday through Friday no rain, Saturday a chance again (but we are getting a few days out there so that will likely change) but much warmer into the 20s.  Extended forecasts (2 sources) are for drier and warmer days with reduce POPs (possibility of precipitation) for much if not all of the Radisson chicks first 10 days.  But yes, forecasts can change but it looks good so far ...


* I like using the U of Wpg's weather station because it too is surrounded by buildings, some lower, some higher.  There is nothing wrong with the weather station at the Forks, but it is more open there and I figure that has to have an influence on the numbers - just my impression and the numbers are close, so I'll stick with the U of Wpg site

TPC, you know what I have been thinking. Thanks for this information. Princess/Mumbrella, Ivy, good parenting skills.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2013, 13:13
TPC, you know what I have been thinking. Thanks for this information. Princess/Mumbrella, Ivy, good parenting skills.  :-*

You weren't the only one remembering 2008 so it seemed appropriate to look at the numbers again.  And don't forget 2009, all went well that year and Vesper, despite her crash landing after fledging, lived for two years until she had her accident and Ty is in the Selkirk area carrying on the family tradition.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 20, 2013, 13:16
Thanks for the weather forecast TPC! Hopefully it doesn't change much and it does help to calm the nerves!  ;D   Black Friday is always niggling in the background for many who were 'there' that day - glad this rain has been more slow and steady rather than sudden downpour. Sending out positive vibes to the East Ledge for a great, successful, healthy family this summer!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2013, 15:31
Princess is the "poor wet bird" for the second time today.  She hasn't gotten off the eggs all day ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2013, 15:43
Weather Network extended forecast has changed for southern Manitoba - they are saying reduced chances for rain over the next week to two weeks ... good news for Princess, Ivy and their chicks if this is the case ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 20, 2013, 17:32
Princess is the "poor wet bird" for the second time today.  She hasn't gotten off the eggs all day ....

Does Ivy bring her food, or does she wait it out in rainy conditions?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 20, 2013, 20:15
Wow that is one miserable looking bird - completely soaked and probably pretty cold..., come ON RAIN WILL YOU PLEASE FLIPPIN' WELL STOP ALREADY!!!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 20, 2013, 20:59
Princess is the "poor wet bird" for the second time today.  She hasn't gotten off the eggs all day ....

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radisson004.jpg)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2013, 21:02
Princess is the "poor wet bird" for the second time today.  She hasn't gotten off the eggs all day ....

Does Ivy bring her food, or does she wait it out in rainy conditions?

Ivy will bring her food but only if she asks for it.  In such rainy conditions she may be unwilling to get off the eggs at all.  Not that the rain should harm them even at this stage but its possible she knows her kids will be talking to her soon and she's not going to take the time.

Just as a note, it is 2057h now and going back through the recordings and except for an approximately 2 inch adjustment at 1659h and she has been in this same position since 1300h.  That is a) velcro, b) dedication, c) a waterproof seal and d) begging for a wicked cramp or two.  The camera is shaking in the wind, but she has herself tucked into a good location and seems to be pretty sheltered, not entirely out of the wind, but pretty good for an open ledge.

Rain is forecasted to stop about 3am then a 70% chance of rain next Saturday (25th) and a 90% chance of scattered showers on Friday (31st) but both those days are a long way off but at this point it does look as though this might be the last really wet weather Princess and Ivy could have for a week, maybe two.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 20, 2013, 21:08
I'm trying not to be worried about our soggy princess...after all, the eggs are fine and moms sitting on eggs go through this all the time.  Princess has certainly been through lots of stormy, cold, wet weather...but she seems to be breathing more heavily than usual... :-\  Or am I just imagining things, TPC ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 20, 2013, 21:19
I'm trying not to be worried about our soggy princess...after all, the eggs are fine and moms sitting on eggs go through this all the time.  Princess has certainly been through lots of stormy, cold, wet weather...but she seems to be breathing more heavily than usual... :-\  Or am I just imagining things, TPC ???

She may be holding herself more above the eggs than on them, sometimes that can make a bird look like they are breathing heavier.  Or it could be that you can see it more because her feathers are plastered to her body - dry feathers can hide alot.  She's been through lots of wet weather before, both on eggs and not eggs.  She's also been covered over in snow, caked in ice, pretty much everything possible she's been through in her 9/10 years here.  I don't think the breathing is a cause for worry, we've seen other birds do it, some dry, some wet.   

The sun has just set (2115h) but will rise in 8 hours at just after 0530h ... tomorrow is another day ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 20, 2013, 21:42
Thanks TPC.  Fingers are crossed for a dryer, calmer day tomorrow :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 21, 2013, 09:46
Don't know when but it looks like sometime in the o-dark-thirties Ivy took over for Princess on egg duty.  Princess took over again at 0518h and Ivy replaced her just over an hour ago at 0837h.  Everyone and egg-rything looks fine on the nestledge.

Forecast for today in Winnipeg

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain. High of 19C. Windy. Winds from the NE at 20 to 30 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then clear. Low of 7C. Winds from the NE at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 21, 2013, 10:01
I know this may sound unbelievable, but I still have some difficulty telling Princess & Ivy apart, even though I have studied the birds in Dennis's photo allbums. I do know that Princess is larger than Ivy but lately I have still managed to confuse the two birds. ::) Maybe it's all this rain that makes them look different to me? Well, that's the excuse I'm using for now. Is there any rhyme or reason to the schedule that the two parents take when incubating the eggs, TPC? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 21, 2013, 11:28
I know this may sound unbelievable, but I still have some difficulty telling Princess & Ivy apart, even though I have studied the birds in Dennis's photo allbums. I do know that Princess is larger than Ivy but lately I have still managed to confuse the two birds. ::) Maybe it's all this rain that makes them look different to me? Well, that's the excuse I'm using for now. Is there any rhyme or reason to the schedule that the two parents take when incubating the eggs, TPC? ???

If you can't tell the birds apart by size Kinderchick, look at their heads.  Ivy's head is all black, Princess' has a crown and on this camera, it usually is easy to see.  Not when they look like drowned rats however, that's when size is really the only way to tell.

As for the schedule ... well last week the schedule would have been easier to describe, but with the rain, Princess has been doing most of the incubating just because she is bigger.  Must admit that Ivy is getting better at stuff 4 eggs under him but in times of poor weather Princess has usually take over most of the duties.  As we get closer to hatching, Princess usually won't give up her spot on the eggs as often.  These two tend to have longer shifts than the Brandon birds - Hurricane and Brooklyn seem to trade-off a lot but that's not a bad thing, just their routine.  Once the chicks hatch, Princess will spend a lot of time with them over the first week, then she hands over the tweens and teenagers to her mate's care ... it used to be in the nestbox if the chicks were 10+ days old and it rained, Ivy was in there with them and you didn't see feather or talon of Princess.  Ivy seems to be a bit more hands on with the chicks as they get older - more so than Princess or even St Trey  :D  More like his grandfather T-Rex who was always nearby the eggs/chicks when he wasn't chasing people off rooftops of course ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 21, 2013, 16:04
Nest exchange, Ivy gets off and Princess replaces him on the eggs. :-*  It looked like Ivy was alarm calling before he left.  ???  You can see the light coloured feathers on Princess's head as she returns.

VIDEO - http://youtu.be/tKnJmPp1mL8 (http://youtu.be/tKnJmPp1mL8)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radisson4.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 21, 2013, 18:18
Thanks for helping me to distinguish the differencce between Princess & Ivy, TPC & RCF. :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 22, 2013, 09:19
0920h

Everyone is dry and warm and parked in the sun right now ... currently 17C downtown at UWpg with winds lighter than 10 km/h for the moment.


Forecast for today

Day - Clear. High of 19C. Breezy. Winds from the NNE at 15 to 25 km/h.
Night - Clear. Low of 5C. Breezy. Winds from the NE at 10 to 20 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 22, 2013, 10:16
Okay, hatch watch countdown is beginning as today is Day 27.  Likely the eggs won't start to hatch until the weekend, but I know how everyone likes the lead up to the big day(s).

Here's the timeline as we know it ...  all eggs were laid at night so no times I'm afraid this year ...

April 21 - egg 1 laid
April 23 - egg 2 laid
April 25 - egg 3 laid & incubation began a few hours later
April 27 - egg 4 laid

May 22 - Day 27
May 25 - Day 30 = estimated start of hatching
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 22, 2013, 13:30
Okay, hatch watch countdown is beginning as today is Day 27.  Likely the eggs won't start to hatch until the weekend, but I know how everyone likes the lead up to the big day(s).

Here's the timeline as we know it ...  all eggs were laid at night so no times I'm afraid this year ...

April 21 - egg 1 laid
April 23 - egg 2 laid
April 25 - egg 3 laid & incubation began a few hours later
April 27 - egg 4 laid

May 22 - Day 27
May 25 - Day 30 = estimated start of hatching

Thanks Tracey! 8) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 22, 2013, 13:46
Ohhh yessss, thanks, tpc.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jo on May 22, 2013, 16:52
TPC & RCF thank you for the "spot the difference" info. I also have trouble telling them apart.

I think that is Princess on the eggs now (or Ivy's feathers are being blown up to expose white feathers under that look like a 'crown') She's stuck to the eggs and picking at something in the gravel . . . .looks like she found something yummy to tide her over. (4:50pm)

If you are from outside Winnipeg, the sun is shining brightly in downtown Winnipeg. The wind is gusting from the north, but the temp is 21c - I think it looks colder than it actually is.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 22, 2013, 17:00
TPC & RCF thank you for the "spot the difference" info. I also have trouble telling them apart.

I think that is Princess on the eggs now (or Ivy's feathers are being blown up to expose white feathers under that look like a 'crown') She's stuck to the eggs and picking at something in the gravel . . . .looks like she found something yummy to tide her over. (4:50pm)

Yes Jo, that is Princess showing off her "crown".  As for something yummy, they haven't been eating at the nestsite, so that is her do a bit of what we like to call "hoovering" and she does more of it closer to the end of incubation and when its warm and the eggs won't miss her if she leaves for a few minutes to hoover further afield.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 22, 2013, 20:20
Do you count from the time that hard incubation occurs, TPC, in this case being after the 3rd egg was laid on April 25th? :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 22, 2013, 22:30
Do you count from the time that hard incubation occurs, TPC, in this case being after the 3rd egg was laid on April 25th? :-\

When incubation start, it may or may not be hard incubation, usually depends on the birds and the weather.  Hard incubation does usually kick in within  a couple of days of the start of incubation.

Post #154 lists off the dates and counts and Princess and Ivy got down to incubating "hard" pretty much from the start.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 23, 2013, 09:08
First shift change was at 0445h - Ivy took over for Princess and he's still there as of 0905h


Forecast for today in Winnipeg

Day - Overcast. High of 18C. Winds from the East at 5 to 15 km/h.
Night - Overcast. Low of 10C. Winds less than 5 km/h.

Currently it is 9C and the winds are from the SE at 5-8 km/h
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bccs on May 23, 2013, 18:49
Saw a pf on an unusual building today. But it has been an unusual year so far.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: allikat on May 23, 2013, 20:24
Good spottin' B!!!  I like that they visit unusual buildings!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bccs on May 23, 2013, 20:29
Good spottin' B!!!  I like that they visit unusual buildings!
Yes, and I'm lucky enough to live where I do and see odd peregrine behaviour.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: allikat on May 23, 2013, 20:33
Keep the informative birdie posts a comin'!!!  More eyes and ears out there, the better for the ones that aren't able to witness any of it!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bccs on May 23, 2013, 20:46
Keep the informative birdie posts a comin'!!!  More eyes and ears out there, the better for the ones that aren't able to witness any of it!

Will do A, and there are others that will do the same.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 24, 2013, 11:40
Hm, is that Ivy on the eggs? Can't see a 'crown' on the head - if it is Ivy, it seems like he's been on the eggs for quite a while!  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Moonstar on May 24, 2013, 12:07
Keep the informative birdie posts a comin'!!!  More eyes and ears out there, the better for the ones that aren't able to witness any of it!

Will do A, and there are others that will do the same.

Miss your air quality checks bccs
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 24, 2013, 12:54
 ??? ??? The eggs were unattended briefly. I thought that one had a dark spot. Princess has returned. She appears to shuggle a lot. Can our first egg be close to hatching?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 24, 2013, 14:34
Sure is windy downtown. The camera seems to be shaking more than usual this afternoon. Must be getting close to 1st hatch. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 24, 2013, 14:40
Sure is windy downtown. The camera seems to be shaking more than usual this afternoon. Must be getting close to 1st hatch. :)
Shuggle, position change for Princess, camera shake from wind. I agree with you KC. I think our Royal family is about to expand.. ;D
 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 24, 2013, 14:54
Weekend Weather Forecast for Winnipeg

Friday

Saturday (estimated start of hatch date)

Sunday

Monday
 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 24, 2013, 14:57
Doesn't look like ideal weather conditions for hatching this weekend. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 24, 2013, 15:07
Doesn't look like ideal weather conditions for hatching this weekend. :( 

Less than 50% chance of rain and they are probably alright - might get wet, might not.  Being in the city and downtown, may mean less rain than in other parts of the city, the buildings affect rainfall in the same way they affect winds. 

Interestingly, Environment Canada has updated their weather forecast and its for 60% chance of rain tonight and 30% or less for the rest of the weekend.  The Weather Network has 70% chance of showers from now until late Saturday, then nothing.

Guess we will just have to see what happens ... and even if the forecasters can't get it right, Princess and Ivy can.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 24, 2013, 15:30
Sure is windy downtown. The camera seems to be shaking more than usual this afternoon. Must be getting close to 1st hatch. :)
Yes, I noticed that Kinderchick.  I wonder if the camera's come loose a bit, as it doesn't seem that windy here in Sunny St. James.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 24, 2013, 15:54
No worries about the camera - it's practically welded to the building!  I think it is the wind direction that's causing most the problems, it's hitting the camera head on basically so there is no protection from the building.  Average wind speed today downtown is about 6 km/h but it's been gusting up to 30km/h according to the weather station at the U of W.  The most prevalent wind direction up to now this month has been W/NW which meant that the hotel provided a bit of a wind-shadow for the camera.  Problem is that the forecast calls for more wind from the SE which depending on how the wind gets funnelled down the streets by the buildings could be okay and apparently the wind speed won't be getting much higher than it has been, on average, today. So we might get lucky and the camera won't shake as much. 

If the winds continue to be problematic and the eggs hatch this weekend, I'll see what I can do about smoothing out some of the shakiness (gotta love apps) on video clips of the hatches or feedings or whatever happens in daylight.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: dupre501 on May 24, 2013, 16:45
While I was watching at noon, I saw Ivy leave and about a minuite later Princess came and settled on the eggs. I also saw Princess take a header into the gravel twice because the wind caught her under the tail.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 24, 2013, 16:53
Have been noticing Princess pecking at pebbles. Does this mean a hatch could be near?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 24, 2013, 17:30
Have been noticing Princess pecking at pebbles. Does this mean a hatch could be near?  ???

Or mind-numbing boredom  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 25, 2013, 10:23
Have been noticing Princess pecking at pebbles. Does this mean a hatch could be near?  ???

Or mind-numbing boredom  ;D

Not a great choice of activities when your tummy has to stay glued to the eggs... ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 25, 2013, 12:46
Ivy just accomplished a nice round of egg rolling and shuffling before settling in a 90 degrees change.

It is very windy and he is fairly alert. 

It looks like he is straining down to the tips of his talons to keep velcroed to the eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: gran2496 on May 25, 2013, 15:31
Has there been a hatch at the Radisson site?  I see what looks like an egg or a shell on the cam.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 25, 2013, 15:38
Well, that definitely looks like an egg, gran!  A discarded egg or the shell from a hatchling ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 25, 2013, 15:46
Ooooh!! - Yes it IS an egg shell!! Hopefully empty! Shaky cam, can't quite tell  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 25, 2013, 15:47
Come on Princess, stand up for a couple seconds !!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 25, 2013, 15:47
Has there been a hatch at the Radisson site?  I see what looks like an egg or a shell on the cam.


(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/princes.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 25, 2013, 16:20
It looks too solid to be a shell - the wind isn't moving it around...and wouldn't it if it was just a shell?  Princess also doesn't seem to be acting as though she has a new chick under her... :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jazzerkins on May 25, 2013, 16:36
No hatch yet.  Just moved the egg back under.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Ellie on May 25, 2013, 16:38
Yes she did move the egg back underneath her while another one slipped out the other side.  She's having trouble to keep all her eggs in one "basket".
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 25, 2013, 16:38
Hmm... I think you may be right, susha. Does look like a solid egg. Well now she's moved the egg over but it's not under her. Wait a minute. Now it's under her. I wonder what's up with that egg? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 25, 2013, 16:39
No hatch yet.  Just moved the egg back under.

Glad she moved it back!!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 25, 2013, 16:42
I wonder how long the egg was sitting out from under her? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 25, 2013, 16:49
All tucked back now, but only after an intense hoovering session that again had the eggs visible and a bit scattered. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 25, 2013, 17:50
Did that look like a chick hatching to any of you? :-\ When Princess turned around a few minutes ago, it looked as if one of her eggs was cracking.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 25, 2013, 18:05
Did that look like a chick hatching to any of you? :-\ When Princess turned around a few minutes ago, it looked as if one of her eggs was cracking.

I haven't seen Princess doing the egg shuffle like she does when the eggs are hatching, so maybe not, but what do I know?
 :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 25, 2013, 18:13
She certainly looks calm for a recent hatch.

Time will tell!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 25, 2013, 18:29
I haven't seen Princess doing the egg shuffle like she does when the eggs are hatching, so maybe not, but what do I know?:-X
Okay, well maybe not. I just thought that one of her eggs, the one closest to her chest, looked like it might be cracking a bit. :-\ But it could have been some debris stuck to it or a shadow or something like that. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 25, 2013, 18:50
She certainly looks calm for a recent hatch.

Time will tell!
Time sure will tell, just hope we don't have any thing going on while we are sleeping tonight, and we miss it.  You can sure feel the excitement as we get closer!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 25, 2013, 19:20
Princess is pretty relaxed at the moment and seems to have been all day.  And she's letting Ivy incubate a lot still, so I suspect that nothing will happen tonight but we'll have to see what the new light brings ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Friesens on May 25, 2013, 20:03
hatching should be soon! I can hardly wait  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: wpgfan on May 25, 2013, 20:07
stretch and tuck and try get snuggled down once again.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Friesens on May 25, 2013, 20:23
shift change
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 26, 2013, 06:06
There appears to be lots of shuggling going on this morning. As well, Princess seems to be alert and listening for hatching??????? Could today be the day?  ??? Windy again!  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 26, 2013, 08:09
Looks like Ivy on the eggs now.  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/Ivy.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 26, 2013, 10:21
Looks like Ivy on the eggs now.  :)

It is - first shift change was at 0554h and then at 0913h Princess took over again.  Looking at the eggs both time, they all look intact as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 26, 2013, 10:50
Princess is so intent on pebble picking, she is off the eggs.

Four intact eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 26, 2013, 10:55
She even headed into the dead weed section for a bit of gardening, but is now back on the eggs. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Stormy on May 26, 2013, 11:56
Hi Tracey- have you abandoned the idea of putting in a Tuppernest?  If I remember, it was installed last time while they were still eggs.  As the eggs will be hatching within days, I was assuming that no Tuppernest?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 26, 2013, 12:08
Stormy - Check out Tracy's reply #85 - page 6 I think ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 26, 2013, 14:55
Good find, Susha!
For convenience, here it is again:

Do you have plans for a "Tuppernestbox" here, TPC? ???

At the moment, no Kinderchick.  We are thinking that we will just let Princess, Ivy and the soon-to-be-chicks be until we need to disturb them to band them and hope that Mother Nature is ambivalent and that Princess continues to do what she does best.  Having said that, there is more gravel on the roof (remember we emptied out the tuppernest) and it is deeper in that corner such that there is a decent scrape showing there right now.  Princess and Ivy are experienced adults and they chose to forgo the nestbox this year so we are thinking we will just let them do what they do best for the time being.   Chicks are due to hatch about the 25th, some light rain is forecast in the next two weeks (most before the hatch date) and temperatures are in the mid to high twenties range around the hatching.  The implied part of your question Kinderchick is "could we put a tuppernest in place if we decided we had to" and the answer to that is that yes, we do have plans for that, but it will depend on the availability, weather, equipment, timing etc. so even with a plan, we could still be unable to put it into action.

Sorry, not the straight forward answer I think you were hoping for ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Stormy on May 26, 2013, 15:41
Thanks Susha!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 26, 2013, 20:24
Checking for Pips!!

Video - http://youtu.be/novXbHwVRKo (http://youtu.be/novXbHwVRKo)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radissoneggs-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jo on May 27, 2013, 06:33
Parent keeping eggs warm with back to camera. (Ivy? Can't see crown and looks like a smaller bird).

It isn't as windy as it would seem (based on camera movement and ruffled feathers) - wind is from the south at 5 km/h. When I look outside my window (close to downtown area) the trees aren't even moving. Perfect weather for hatching  ;)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 27, 2013, 07:14
As of 0522h this morning during shift change ...

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/150432515/medium.jpg)



Weather Forecast for Today

Day - Overcast. High of 23C. Breezy. Winds from the SE at 10 to 20 km/h.
Night - Overcast with rain, then a chance of rain after midnight. Low of 14C. Winds from the ESE at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 70%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 27, 2013, 08:14
As of 0522h this morning during shift change ...

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/150432515/medium.jpg)



Weather Forecast for Today

Day - Overcast. High of 23C. Breezy. Winds from the SE at 10 to 20 km/h.
Night - Overcast with rain, then a chance of rain after midnight. Low of 14C. Winds from the ESE at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 70%.
Could today be our day for a hatch?   ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 27, 2013, 11:32
At 0932h Princess did some rearranging and can't say for sure, might just be a mark on the egg or maybe a pebble stuck to it or it might just be a pip ...

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/150437921/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 27, 2013, 12:52
Princess is alert but not restless.
She is intermittently getting shuteye.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 27, 2013, 13:46
Shift change at 1228h, "mark", does look like a pip but I don't want to get hopes up ... Ivy is on the eggs now and seems pretty calm ...

Looking at the Environment Canada and The Weather Network forecasts ... this week is going to suck for Ivy and Princess:


high temps ranging from 22C (Tuesday) to 15C (Saturday), lows will be from 13C (Tuesday) to 5C (Saturday).

As unappealing as this sounds, unlikely to be more than irritating and labour-intensive for Princess and Ivy.  Some nice weather from Saturday into next week with a couple of days with rain (can't say how much or even if the forecast will remain the same) middle of next week as well.  Doesn't look like a repeat of Black Friday, just less easy for the parents.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 27, 2013, 13:54
Some frustrating pecking happening. I wish I could read beak. Talking or squawking going on as well. Soon our Royals will have baby beaks to feed. Manitoba will have an incredible and exciting season.  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 27, 2013, 20:30
Shift change. I think this is Princess on the eggs now. Still 4 eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 28, 2013, 05:20
Dawn verging. Is that an eggshell I see or wishful thinking?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 28, 2013, 05:39
Dawn verging. Is that an eggshell I see or wishful thinking?  ???

Wrong, no broken eggshell yet. Maybe later.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: msdolittle on May 28, 2013, 07:41
I saw someone sitting up on the nest box looking west this morning, Ivy I imagine?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 28, 2013, 08:56
Princess napping

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%20Screen%20caps%202012/princess-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May/My Personal Best Peregrine Viewing Year
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 28, 2013, 09:10
Despite the wet cool weather the peregrines return.  If anything I have seen more of them as I am not out as much and I check to see how "my birds" ;) are doing.  Also, for the first year I located and saw at least one of the peregrines from the Radisson, another of the peregrines on the Buhler building letters and one on the east side letters in West Winnipeg.  The West Winnipeg peregrine thrilled with an aerial display when she (bigger peregrine) took off flying south towards and over the Assinboine River. There was soaring and wing tucking - a magnificent aerial display. It was Mother's Day and the perfect gift! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 28, 2013, 09:31
Day 33

First shift change was at 0548h CDT today, Ivy took over from Princess who'd been "on" last night.  Didn't last long though, Princess reclaimed her spot at 0604h CDT and doesn't look to be ready to move.  Could be the weather forecast (who knew they had access to Enviroment Canada - or maybe it was our Twitter feed  ;)) or it could be chicks getting ready for their debut, or perhaps both.  Upside of wind is that light rain gets blown about, upside of rain is that often the wind goes down.  The chicks have a decent scrape there so there is more than a few inches of gravel where the eggs are.  

Today's forecast for Winnipeg

Day - Overcast with a 70% chance of rain. High of 22C. Breezy. Winds from the South at 15 to 25 km/h.  
Night - Overcast with rain in the evening, then partly cloudy with a 70% chance of rain. Low of 12C. Breezy. Winds from the SSW at 10 to 20 km/h shifting to the WNW after midnight.

South winds not our favourite, winds from any quarter to the west tend (TEND) to be less of an annoyance on the ledge but it will depend on how the downtown buildings funnel the air movement
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 28, 2013, 11:37
Day 33

First shift change was at 0548h CDT today, Ivy took over from Princess who'd been "on" last night.  Didn't last long though, Princess reclaimed her spot at 0604h CDT and doesn't look to be ready to move.  Could be the weather forecast (who knew they had access to Enviroment Canada - or maybe it was our Twitter feed  ;)) or it could be chicks getting ready for their debut, or perhaps both.  Upside of wind is that light rain gets blown about, upside of rain is that often the wind goes down.  The chicks have a decent scrape there so there is more than a few inches of gravel where the eggs are.  

Today's forecast for Winnipeg

Day - Overcast with a 70% chance of rain. High of 22C. Breezy. Winds from the South at 15 to 25 km/h.  
Night - Overcast with rain in the evening, then partly cloudy with a 70% chance of rain. Low of 12C. Breezy. Winds from the SSW at 10 to 20 km/h shifting to the WNW after midnight.

South winds not our favourite, winds from any quarter to the west tend (TEND) to be less of an annoyance on the ledge but it will depend on how the downtown buildings funnel the air movement

Maybe the chicks are being as elusive as Princess was earlier trying to wait and identify her.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 28, 2013, 11:57
It is starting to rain ... not much from what I can see on the webcam, the pebbles are slightly darker which means they are wet.  Looking at the camera on the nestbox (where Princess isn't), there is a distinct between the damp and dry pebbles ... she could have been undercover if she hadn't decided to be a rebel this year  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 28, 2013, 12:15
Was just outside, it's a light but steady rain, not cold but quite damp out there. Trying not to think 'if only' about the nest location, as there's obviously nothing we can do about it - but can't help it.  :-[
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 28, 2013, 13:30
(Sarcasm Alert)   I do so love weather forecasts.  (Sarcasm Alert Concluded)

Looks like we have rain on the menu until Sunday ...

None of the amounts forecast are dangerous amounts, just annoying and more work for Princess and Ivy.  Fortunately it will be while the chicks are small which will make it easier for Ivy to stuff them all under him and out of the rain.  There is also wind forecast, not high speeds but east which is right onto the ledge and north which the drainage cover and wall should help provide a bit of a wind break.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 28, 2013, 13:54
(Sarcasm Alert)   I do so love weather forecasts.  (Sarcasm Alert Concluded)

Looks like we have rain on the menu until Sunday ...
  • today less than 5mm
  • Wed sun + 5-10mm
  • Thurs no sun + 15-20mm
  • Fri wee bit of sun + up to 10mm
  • Sat no sun + 1-3mm
  • Sun & beyond sunny + partly sunny (yippeee)

None of the amounts forecast are dangerous amounts, just annoying and more work for Princess and Ivy.  Fortunately it will be while the chicks are small which will make it easier for Ivy to stuff them all under him and out of the rain.  There is also wind forecast, not high speeds but east which is right onto the ledge and north which the drainage cover and wall should help provide a bit of a wind break.

Tracy, thank you for this weather forcast. (Sarcasm)  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 28, 2013, 14:11
Tracy, thank you for this weather forcast. (Sarcasm)  ::)

RAIN forecast  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 28, 2013, 14:17
RAIN forecast  ::) ;D 

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 28, 2013, 15:01
1447h CDT
Quick shift change when it's not raining - Ivy is on the eggs and everyone is tucked down nicely.  Couldn't see anything on the eggs but that little "maybe" pip (or pebble) from yesterday ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jazzerkins on May 28, 2013, 16:40
Still four eggs as of a minute ago.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 28, 2013, 20:30
Shift Change - Princess settled back on the eggs but one of them has snuck out, and isn't covered - she doesn't seem to realize it.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jazzerkins on May 28, 2013, 20:31
Sometimes it is almost as if they have given up on the eggs, to me, but I am probably wrong.  It just seems that the eggs are being left uncovered quite a bit now.  Hope it is just my imagination.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 28, 2013, 20:48
Yay, I missed it but she must have discovered the stranded egg! Back where it belongs now.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 29, 2013, 06:41
RAIN forecast  ::) ;D 

 >:( >:( >:(
I heard we are in for a lot of rain starting Tomorrow. (Fri)  I just hope if we have any little chicks that finally decide to come that Princess will keep them warm and dry as she is well known to do.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 29, 2013, 07:50
RAIN forecast  ::) ;D 

 >:( >:( >:(
I heard we are in for a lot of rain starting Tomorrow. (Fri)  I just hope if we have any little chicks that finally decide to come that Princess will keep them warm and dry as she is well known to do.

Lots of rain and strong winds on the way. Over 80 mm expected by Saturday.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 29, 2013, 09:19
Such bad timing  >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 29, 2013, 09:23
Probably no hope of those chicks staying IN the eggs til Saturday, but it sure would be better if they did!!   :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 29, 2013, 09:30
Winnipeg weather forecast for today

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain in the afternoon. High of 21C. Winds from the WNW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Night - Overcast with a chance of rain. Low of 14C. Winds from the NE at 10 to 15 km/h.


Enjoy it while we have it ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 29, 2013, 09:53
Shift change! Ivy leaves, Princess arrives. 4 eggs looking eggy.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: eagle63_1999 on May 29, 2013, 12:40
Waiting for chicks to hatch is like as Dennis says watching paint dry!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: birdnut on May 29, 2013, 13:04
Watching to web cam at 1:00:  what is Princess doing?
Bored with just sitting around and started doing some house cleaning?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: eagle63_1999 on May 29, 2013, 13:06
Princess is just being Princess
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 29, 2013, 13:32
Waiting for chicks to hatch is like as Dennis says watching paint dry!

.....or watching grass grow!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 29, 2013, 14:06
Princess does seem restless today though - lots of shuggling, readjusting, pebble picking & egg nudging going on!  8) - Anxious for the chicks to arrive, but on the other hand, bad weather forecast makes me hope they wait a few days!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 29, 2013, 14:23
Princess does seem restless today though - lots of shuggling, readjusting, pebble picking & egg nudging going on!  8) - Anxious for the chicks to arrive, but on the other hand, bad weather forecast makes me hope they wait a few days!  ;)

Ditto! Time for Princess to spread her "Mumbrella" Strong winds predicted as well. Princess and Ivy will be diligent.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 29, 2013, 14:26
Need to post anything, my last post #666. Always hate this #  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Moonstar on May 29, 2013, 14:40
I have a feeling there will be a chick in the morning.  Hoping they can wait for Sat. tho.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 29, 2013, 14:57
Any chance of that TPC? ....  or are we at the 'Any Minute Now' point  ???

Thursday, 30 May - Cloudy. Rain beginning in the morning. Amount 30 mm. Wind northeast 40 km/h gusting to 60. High 17.

Friday, 31 May  -  Showers. Low 12. High 17.

Blech.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 29, 2013, 15:11
Any chance of that TPC? ....  or are we at the 'Any Minute Now' point  ???

Thursday, 30 May - Cloudy. Rain beginning in the morning. Amount 30 mm. Wind northeast 40 km/h gusting to 60. High 17.

Friday, 31 May  -  Showers. Low 12. High 17.

Blech.  :-\

Wait until Saturday - perhaps, its a little longer than the normal range and a bit longer than normal for Princess and Ivy but ... Saturday would be Day 37 for those of you who are counting.  Now means they are smaller and easier to keep under cover and dry - but we could have rain later as well (Tues looks damp next week too) so six of one/half dozen of another.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 29, 2013, 15:14
Besides when they will hatch, I am also interested to see if all the eggs hatch ... that egg that I thought I saw a pip on a couple of days ago, I think I saw again and it still looks like a pip OR maybe it is still just a pebble or a mark on the egg ...  waiting squared for me  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 29, 2013, 15:35
Right, I guess we're not likely to get 10 'Rainless / Windless' days in a row at any time - but the less rain & wind the better!  Fingers & Toes Crossed. 8) 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 29, 2013, 16:57
That is Ivy on the eggs now, isn't it?  Head seems very dark and there is frequent re adjusting to keep eggs covered.
With the last rearranging, I saw the egg with the pip, or the whatever, at the front.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 29, 2013, 17:09
That is Ivy on the eggs now, isn't it?  Head seems very dark and there is frequent re adjusting to keep eggs covered.
With the last rearranging, I saw the egg with the pip, or the whatever, at the front.
I think it's Ivy, and yes He seems to be shuffling, settle, shuffle, resettle, and having trouble settling down on eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 29, 2013, 17:45
Looks to me like the kids might be doing some chatting - miss sound!! :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Rose on May 30, 2013, 06:06
Just saw the 1st chick, lucky me. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Moonstar on May 30, 2013, 06:25
Just saw the 1st chick, lucky me. :)
Glad there is a chick but I do not like the weather for the next 48 hrs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: des on May 30, 2013, 06:56
Just saw the 1st chick, lucky me. :)

Thanks for the news!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 30, 2013, 07:28
Just saw the 1st chick, lucky me. :)

Rose sent me screen capture of the lttle fluffy.  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/Radissonfirst.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 30, 2013, 07:40
Just saw the 1st chick, lucky me. :)

Rose sent me screen capture of the lttle fluffy.  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/Radissonfirst.jpg)
AWWWWWW!  Must've just appeared overnight or very early this morning.  Hoping the rain will not disturb our new Radisson Residents!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 30, 2013, 08:20
 :) ;) Welcome, little one. So cute, so sweet.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 30, 2013, 08:39
I'm not surprised...but soooo worried :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 30, 2013, 09:00
Wonderful news about the 1st chick! :D I imagine TPC will be able to tell us what time the hatch occurred. Great screen capture, Rose! :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 09:18
Been back through the video since last night and here's the chronology as I know it ...


... and this is how the day will probably proceed ... no rain yet but she'll be hunkered down tight I suspect for most of the next two days except to feed the chicks which will probably be quick and not as often as we might like.  Fortunately a) chicks this age can't eat much, b) she knows what she is doing  as a mother and c) she's nested here before - have to look at that as an advantage.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 09:22
I'm not surprised...but soooo worried :-\
Me too Susha, Love to see the new fluffy, but winds & rain sometimes heavy thru Saturday dampens the thrill - going to be a stressful time the next few days.... :-\
TPC, I know this never happens, but it seems a great idea for Princess & Ivy to team up during the worst of it and be 'Mumbrella' together - double the coverage..... ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 30, 2013, 09:35
Tuned in this morning to see eggshell and to read the news of the newest arrival! I'll be glued to the cam today in hopes of seeing the new chick. Thanks for the screen capture Rose!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Shocka88 on May 30, 2013, 09:44
Thanks for the great screen capture, Rose. Happy AND worrisome time.......do hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 09:49
Thought I would get his over quickly ... forecast for the next couple of days ...

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

Sunday


Two thoughts that come to mind:
  1) if its rainy and windy, might mean more rain blown around than falling down on a small nestledge
  2) looking at how much rain is being expected when, it seems pretty consistent - bit more this afternoon and tomorrow afternoon but otherwise spread out
        - in 2008, all the rain (about what we are expecting over the next few days) fell between 0430 and 1200 on one day. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 09:58
Looks like the gravel on the east side of the building is getting damp - anyone working downtown?  Can you confirm that it is raining?  Looking at the west side of the building, the edge of the nestbox is still dry ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 10:19
I'm not downtown but was just out walking the dog before it gets too wet - In St James (West of downtown) it's spitting lightly & breezy.  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 10:28
I'm not downtown but was just out walking the dog before it gets too wet - In St James (West of downtown) it's spitting lightly & breezy.  8)

Breezy and spitting is tolerable ... gravel is damp around Princess but she's got her head into the wall and she looks sound asleep with only a little ruffle of her feathers and an occasional gusty breeze doing more than that ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: eagle63_1999 on May 30, 2013, 10:50
Congrats to Princess and Ivy on the first hatch of the season !
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 10:58
Had a look at the west side - nestbox is obviously dry but actually the building is keeping the ledge and the outside part of the box dry too ... figures this would be the year this darn bird chose the ledge ...  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 11:34
....sigh....It's gonna be a long few days......Keep your chin up Princess!! (And your fluffies dry)  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 30, 2013, 11:43
Looks like lots of rain pouring down on Princess right now. :( Sure do hope she can keep her lone chick & any others to come, warm & dry. TPC, how long can the newborn chick(s) go without eating? Do they need to be fed at regular intervals or can/will Princess wait till the rain lets up to expose her chick(s) to the elements in order to feed them? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 11:48
Looks like lots of rain pouring down on Princess right now. :( Sure do hope she can keep her lone chick & any others to come, warm & dry. TPC, how long can the newborn chick(s) go without eating? Do they need to be fed at regular intervals or can/will Princess wait till the rain lets up to expose her chick(s) to the elements in order to feed them? ???

They can go a few hours and with just one to feed feeding can go quickly.  Chances are this chicks first meal was 3ish hours after it hatched.  They can't eat much so mealtimes are very short, she can get them fed and back under her to dry-out and warm-up quickly enough.  And with the wind blowing about, she could block most the wind/rain during the process I suspect.  However, really the only way we'll know how they do is to watch I'm afraid ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 11:54
Hopefully Princess won't get so drenched that she can't keep herself warm never mind the chicks. Of all times for the long term weather forecast to actually be RIGHT, this was the worst.  :-\ Watching will be tough, but watch we will... :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 30, 2013, 12:19
TPC is on CBC "Radio Noon" right now being interviewed by Marilyn Maki. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 12:58
The only thing sadder than a dry empty nestbox on a rainy day is a wet Princess on eggs ...  :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 30, 2013, 13:09
A very wet Princess has been quite still all morning, suctioned right on top of the chick and eggs. Head down, eyes shut, getting wet but keeping the chick dry. What a great job she's doing!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 30, 2013, 13:20
The only thing sadder than a dry empty nestbox on a rainy day is a wet Princess on eggs ...  :'(

This is what I have been thinking since the rain started, TPC.  Colorado Low, two words that make me cringe when I hear it in the winter. I have never heard it at any other time of year. Rain falling on Princess appears to be coming straight down. Two songs comes to mind with a slight change of words, "She is woman, they will survive"  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 14:04
as of 1406h - 7.1mm of rain has fallen ...

rate that the rain is fall has dropped/is dropping according to the University of Winnipeg's weather station ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 14:34
1434h
I think (think) that we may just have had hatch 2 - the light coloured thingy just beyond Princess' beak is egg shell and I don't think it is the shell from this morning ... could be wrong but maybe not ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Moonstar on May 30, 2013, 14:36
I can't view the web cam at work.  I can hear the rain coming down so hard which make me wonder if it is draining well in the ledge.  I keep thinking about June 8,2008 but I do believe the rain was a lot harder and a lot more that day.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Moonstar on May 30, 2013, 14:38
I can't view the web cam at work.  I can hear the rain coming down so hard which make me wonder if it is draining well in the ledge.  I keep thinking about June 8,2008 but I do believe the rain was a lot harder and a lot more that day.


I meant June 6, 2008.   :-[
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 14:41
Rain has stopped west of downtown, probably only for a few minutes - time for a feather shake and a quick bite maybe!!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 30, 2013, 15:00
1434h
I think (think) that we may just have had hatch 2 - the light coloured thingy just beyond Princess' beak is egg shell and I don't think it is the shell from this morning ... could be wrong but maybe not ...
Don't see that now.  I'm guessing either due to the rules about intervention with the Peregrines and Endangered Species or you just don't want to interrupt Princess and the brood, it's not possible to re-locate them to the nest box when they are all hatched or a little older.  I know last year the McKenzie Chicks were relocated last year, but, the old nestbox was falling apart, and needed replacement.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Jazzerkins on May 30, 2013, 15:05
still just one chick
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 15:09
Taking good advantage of the break in the rain for a meal!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Sue on May 30, 2013, 15:10
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 15:17
I'm guessing either due to the rules about intervention with the Peregrines and Endangered Species or you just don't want to interrupt Princess and the brood, it's not possible to re-locate them to the nest box when they are all hatched or a little older.  I know last year the McKenzie Chicks were relocated last year, but, the old nestbox was falling apart, and needed replacement.

We will decide what to do with the Radisson chicks at banding time but at this point, we aren't counting our chicks before they are safely hatched and the Colorado Low has passed by.

As for the McKenzie Seeds chicks - we moved them last year and the year before because they were candidates for the transmitter project.  Nothing to do with the nestbox - the nestbox on the wall has never been a problem.  When we replaced it a couple of years ago it was because it was a good time for us to give them a slightly bigger space with more cover.  Replacing that nestbox is always a case of what is the weather like and can we do it safely and the answer in 2011 was yes to both.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 15:22
still just one chick

Glad you managed to get a good look, I was trying to see using the spycam and all I could see was the eggshell and I didn't remember seeing it before.  The other tots will arrive when they are ready  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 30, 2013, 15:23
The only thing sadder than a dry empty nestbox on a rainy day is a wet Princess on eggs ...  :'(
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 15:32
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)

If I could know who the chick was at banding age I'd consider calling him La-Z-Boy except that I'd have to use the US pronounciation  :D  Maybe "Chesterfield" or "Davenport", maybe "Divan" ... ?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: SuzieQmb on May 30, 2013, 15:53
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)

If I could know who the chick was at banding age I'd consider calling him La-Z-Boy except that I'd have to use the US pronounciation  :D  Maybe "Chesterfield" or "Davenport", maybe "Divan" ... ?

The poor little thing was trying very hard to stand up, and did get a few bites that way, but it was just too hard, and the next thing I saw, he/she was on his/her side!  That wobbly stage is pretty cute, and it's amazing how quickly that instinct to reach with the open beak appears!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 30, 2013, 16:01
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)

If I could know who the chick was at banding age I'd consider calling him La-Z-Boy except that I'd have to use the US pronounciation  :D  Maybe "Chesterfield" or "Davenport", maybe "Divan" ... ?

or recliner????????  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 16:23
I'm far from an expert reading radar weather maps, but it looks like we might just be passing/have passed through the worst of the current storm front ... going to see if the rainfall rate starts to drop shortly ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 16:56
If it's going to rain for 3 days, it would be very helpful to at least have some light or better yet,  'stop' periods in between so hopefully you're right TPC!!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 16:56
1657h

Rate has dropped a bit, hopefully more is on the way ... 13mm so far ... max rate of 5mm/hr for about 10 minutes ... now it is less than 1/2 that rate ..

In comparison with 2008, less than 10mm/hour for 2.5 hours, then 12mm/hr for 3.5 hours followed by 25.5mm/hr for 1 hour then just little spits after that ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 17:44
Had another look at the weather map and I think we will have a decent break in the rain in a little while - maybe an hour?
Princess looks wet but used the spy cam and she looks wet but good from that angle as well.

If you want to check out the radar for yourself, go to the Environment Canada Weather Office webpage and click on the radar tab for Winnipeg and have a look for yourself.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 18:49
Hey, now they're saying SUNNY on Saturday! - That's an improvement at least!  :)
Going down to 6 tomorrow night though, after a wet day that's pretty cold. Wish we could just fast forward to Saturday right about NOW!  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 19:15
Rain has stopped! - Shift Change! Missed the switch though so not sure how many fluffies are under Ivy right now ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Feather2Fin on May 30, 2013, 19:26
Ballywing,
One peregrine came in with a morsel and the peregrine on the nest vocalized and then took the morsel off camera. A peregrine without a morsel came back to the nest and took over the nesting - I think Princess is now on the nest because this peregrine looks larger.There was one little, wobbly, white fluff complaining and leaning on the other three eggs. I wondered if the egg further away from the camera and closest to the corner, looked a bit different.  :-\ Maybe another chick soon. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 19:37
Hm, I thought that bird was looking too dry to be Princess - and the white breast also would mean Ivy - looks like Princess is back now though, if so I missed another switch - or maybe it was her all along - at least she had a break, hope the rain holds off for a while!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: photosbydennis on May 30, 2013, 20:02
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)

If I could know who the chick was at banding age I'd consider calling him La-Z-Boy except that I'd have to use the US pronounciation  :D  Maybe "Chesterfield" or "Davenport", maybe "Divan" ... ?

Well now..."SK" or "ER" has a nice ring  :P ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 20:04
Hm, I thought that bird was looking too dry to be Princess - and the white breast also would mean Ivy - looks like Princess is back now though, if so I missed another switch - or maybe it was her all along - at least she had a break, hope the rain holds off for a while!  ;D  

These two have this worked out - he sits waiting for her to yell when the rain stops, he rushes in with food for chick and for Princess and does a little brooding while she takes care of a quick meal and then she's back on the chicks again.  It may be raining but it really isn't different from when they use the nestbox, Ivy has a hard time hanging out with the kids for the first few days.  The adults look fine and the chick looked fine as well - looked dry and not weak or sluggish.  We have another day to go, but so far so good ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 20:06
I should mention to folks that it isn't cold outside right now - wet and windy but not really cold which is a unforeseen bonus.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: photosbydennis on May 30, 2013, 20:08
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)

If I could know who the chick was at banding age I'd consider calling him La-Z-Boy except that I'd have to use the US pronounciation  :D  Maybe "Chesterfield" or "Davenport", maybe "Divan" ... ?

Well now..."SK" or "ER" has a nice ring  :P ;)
Well now..."SK" or "ER" has a nice ring  :P ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Stormy on May 30, 2013, 20:09
I thought I just saw an eggshell on far side of Princess, and then she shuggled and turned and faced the camera and saw one chick and one egg at the front of her breast before she shuggled and hid them.  So, maybe another chick has hatched . . .  ??? :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 30, 2013, 20:25
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)

If I could know who the chick was at banding age I'd consider calling him La-Z-Boy except that I'd have to use the US pronounciation  :D  Maybe "Chesterfield" or "Davenport", maybe "Divan" ... ?

Well now..."SK" or "ER" has a nice ring  :P ;)
Well now..."SK" or "ER" has a nice ring  :P ;)

Well now..."SK" or "ER" does have a nice ring  :P ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 20:28
I thought I just saw an eggshell on far side of Princess, and then she shuggled and turned and faced the camera and saw one chick and one egg at the front of her breast before she shuggled and hid them.  So, maybe another chick has hatched . . .  ??? :D

I think that is the same eggshell that tripped me up a couple of hours ago Stormy ... would be nice if chick 2 hatched when it wasn't raining but I don't think they listen to us  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 30, 2013, 20:43
That's for sure, if they'd listened to us, they'd be nice & dry - holed up in the penthouse west nest condo right now and we'd be less stressed too!!!  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 20:51
Had a little look at the ledge with the spycam and I can't see any water on the ledge even though the light is flat so even with 20.3mm of rain falling, it doesn't take long for any water that does accumulate to drain away and I didn't see any water getting near the Princess and the chick/egg.  If we have a repeat of today tomorrow, it's good to know ....

Tonight the chance of rain has dropped to 80% with another 10mm possible ...
Tomorrow's got a 90% chance of rain but the forecast is only for another possible 10mm - used to be 20mm so that's an improvement!  Chance of rain tomorrow night drops to 70% ...
Saturday apparently has a 0% of rain - yippeeeeeee

And finally, had a look at radar map for southern Manitoba and northern North Dakota and it looks like no rain (maybe just spitting) from now until at least 3am.  Time for Princess to dry out thoroughly and for chick to get another meal or two if Mum and Dad aren't worry about him/her getting out from undercover.  It is not unusual (in dry years) for the chicks to get a meal around 2200h.  If another chick hatches and there is no rain, chances are Ivy will be bringing a late night snack to the ledge ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 30, 2013, 21:32

These two have this worked out - he sits waiting for her to yell when the rain stops, he rushes in with food for chick and for Princess and does a little brooding while she takes care of a quick meal and then she's back on the chicks again.  It may be raining but it really isn't different from when they use the nestbox, Ivy has a hard time hanging out with the kids for the first few days.  The adults look fine and the chick looked fine as well - looked dry and not weak or sluggish.  We have another day to go, but so far so good ...

How fabulous it must be for Princess to get that little break while Ivy sits.
Mama gets to eat, spread her wings and perhaps have a great shake off. 

If ever a pair could offer a good chance of survival to new chicks it is this one.
The nest ledge is a bit improved, and the forecast is not so grim as the season when Trey and Princess lost all their chicks
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 30, 2013, 21:36
Kind of tricky to feed the little one when he/she is lying flat on the gravel. ::)

If I could know who the chick was at banding age I'd consider calling him La-Z-Boy except that I'd have to use the US pronounciation  :D  Maybe "Chesterfield" or "Davenport", maybe "Divan" ... ?

Well now..."SK" or "ER" has a nice ring  :P ;)
Well now..."SK" or "ER" has a nice ring  :P ;)

Well now..."SK" or "ER" does have a nice ring  :P ;)

Dennis is never going to give up!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 30, 2013, 21:41
The light is starting to fade so we will lose being able to see on the nestledge shortly.  Princess is on-duty and the chick looked fine that last time she rearranged him/her and his/her (hopefully) soon-to-be-siblings ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Linder on May 30, 2013, 22:16
Definitely hope for a safe and somewhat windless, rainless night for them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: PrairieSailor on May 30, 2013, 23:01
Watched a feeding earlier today - kinda cute as the parent did not want to feed a chick laying on it's back, and waited till the newborn turned "right-side up" before stuffing it with food ...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969166_10151428203067256_1420720950_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: 2kawaii on May 31, 2013, 06:18
6-6:15 a.m.  One windswept birdie velcroed  to eggs/chick (s?). Egg shell visible near the vent but it could be the one from yesterday? As least is doesn't appear to be raining at the moment and birdie appears to be dry.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 31, 2013, 07:38
Rain has started and Princess has a look that seems to say, "Here we go again :P"
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Stormy on May 31, 2013, 07:57
Poor Princess (her fault) . . . I can't watch anymore.   :-[ :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 31, 2013, 08:28
It certainly is difficult to watch Princess ride out this nasty weather. :( Princess is such a trooper. Here's hoping the chick & eggs are doing well.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: msdolittle on May 31, 2013, 08:31
Work is slipping up .... for some odd reason I'm able to view the WebCam off and on. 
Princess .... she's a little damp!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 09:13
According to the recorder ....

0500h - first meal of the day for both Princess and what still looks like one lone chick - s/he was doing a "davenport" again by the end - Princess got back on though Ivy offered to take over - no rain at the time.
0600h ish - some misting - enough to make the pebbles damp but Princess didn't look wet at all - dry pebbles around her
0700h - Princess is still dry, did a full 360 shuggle but no sign of anything under her - she is keeping her breast right down on the pebbles
0710h - Princess sitting head up and dry like she was waiting for the sunrise and warm dry day
0745h - rain has started and Princess has herself and offspring all tucked up and in the position to hunker down through the rain

0900h - just over 1/2 of the precipitation forecasted for today has fallen

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 09:34
Poor Princess (her fault) . . . I can't watch anymore.   :-[ :'(
Ditto to that, I think I'll keep up to date on the forum & wait til the rain stops to turn the cam on- too hard to watch.  :-[
Hang in there Princess - this WILL pass!!!!  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 31, 2013, 09:37
Poor Princess (her fault) . . . I can't watch anymore.   :-[ :'(
I so agree Stormy.  If only She had taken the nestbox.  But, our poor Brandonites look wet and miserable too!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 09:49
Rate of rainfall is dropping down by the University of Winnipeg (just down Portage Avenue from the Radisson for those of you from away) - we have had 14.2mm of rain so far today, forecast is "rainfall amounts near 18.8 mm possible".  We know the rain will be over before tonight, so as long as the birds get a break between deluges to feed chick everyone could be fine.  Tough way to spend your first 24-36 hours but if chick has a chance, it's with Princess - look at how well Hurricane turned out, and Ty and Radisson and Alley.  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Cathy179 on May 31, 2013, 09:59
Oh No...I see some depressions in the gravel with puddles now...my heart is doing flipflops   
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: mwhelan on May 31, 2013, 10:42
Puddles by Princess seem to be disipating.  Hoping that's the worst of the rain done and that the other three wait till it's done!  Poor girl looks like a sodden mass.  :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 11:00
The puddles have been forming and draining all morning, probably depending on the rate of rainfall to the ledge. The first time I saw one, I panicked, but after watching for a while, I can see all is well (as well as a soaking wet birdie can be).
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 11:20
What is it about Fridays and rain and this nestledge?  :-\ >:(

Don't let the foggy look on camera fool you, the rate of rainfall is 1/4 what it was two hours ago.  The Woodlands radar keeps going "out" but it looked like the worst may be over for awhile with a bit heavier rain about 1300h then it looked like we were going to out of it about 1500h ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: SuzieQmb on May 31, 2013, 11:32
It is great to have it confirmed that the rate of rainfall has slowed down.  I thought that was likely the case since the puddles had gone away, but it's nice to know for sure.  And the fact that the puddles can disappear as quickly as they did is nice to know too......
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: MayShowers on May 31, 2013, 11:33
Thank you everyone for the upsates.  I cannot access camera at work.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 31, 2013, 11:48
I usually can't see cam during the day either, but today I'm home, so I can watch poor, soaked Princess.  I'm so happy to have her back in Winnipeg this year, but part of me wishes that she'd stayed south, dry and care-free :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 12:02
Princess gave a huge head shake, then seemed to call out. 
Maybe it's time for her break?

Eyelids now dozing, perhaps she was merely cursing to herself.
%#& rain!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 12:27
I'm just hoping that the 'WET' doesn't soak the chick/eggs from underneath - if it would just STOP FOR A BIT we might at least see how they're doing! Not that I'm looking at the cam, just can't watch til things improve.  :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: SuzieQmb on May 31, 2013, 12:31
Princess gave a huge head shake, then seemed to call out.  
Maybe it's time for her break?

Eyelids now dozing, perhaps she was merely cursing to herself.
%#& rain!

Wishing there was a "like" button  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: noellat on May 31, 2013, 12:53
Way to go Princess.  You're doing great.  Nature is letting you have it today.  I'm watching and hoping for the best  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 13:46
What's going on at the ledge? We've had 2 downpours in the last half hour - I'm afraid to look at the cam.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 13:51
What's going on at the ledge? We've had 2 downpours in the last half hour - I'm afraid to look at the cam.  :'( :'( :'(

Ledge looks fine: damp, but not soaked. No visible puddles at the moment. Princess was asleep/eyes closed, now she has opened her eyes. She hasn't moved at all.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 13:52
PHEW!!!! - the rain was pelting the office window, I had visions of Black Friday #2 and nobody was saying anything. - Thanks Baffled!!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 13:58
We have a visible puddle on the ledge now. But this puddle has been appearing and then draining all day, so hopefully it will disappear when the rain rate slows. Don't panic, Ballywing!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 13:59
Trying not to!    ;) 8) - But I'm only about 1km away from the Radisson and it's raining so hard the drops are bouncing off the window - until that stops I"m going to be a wreck!  :-[
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 14:17
Still raining, though doesn't look heavy from the occasional drops into the puddle, and I think the
puddle is getting smaller.

Princess' breathing exertion is visible.  She will be using lots of energy to generate heat underneath!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 14:28
I think she'll have to use every ounce of her energy for sure, and if it would STOP raining and she can get dry before tonight, it would be great-  as it's going down to 7 degrees, which I imagine is a bit nippy if you're soaking wet.  :-[ - This mega rain happens every year, it's almost inevitable, I guess the only way the timing could have been worse for our Peregrines - was if there were 4 chicks and they were several days older, - Harder for Princess to protect. Sure hope our family is ok so far  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 14:41
The puddle has gotten a lot bigger in the last ten minutes. Isn't it about time this rain stopped?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 31, 2013, 14:42
I just tried to access the cam and it said it was currently unavailable.  ???

I've read all the comments about Princess but is would have been reassuring to see her.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 31, 2013, 14:47
Okay, I tried again and am now watching a very wet Princess who does seem to be panting?

I HATE THIS NEST LEDGE!!!!!!!! >:(

It's a good thing that I can't see peregrines totally in the wild, I'd get an ulcer.  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 14:48
This is a very bad deja-vu - I can't even believe it.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 14:49
Okay, I tried again and am now watching a very wet Princess who does seem to be panting?
Her strong breathing has been noticeable all day.

She has not moved an inch since the morning, not even to face the other direction or shuggle the eggs. (unless she moved when I went out for lunch :P )
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 14:54
Quick check-in by Ivy, but Princess does not want to move.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 14:55
I don't know if she can take this, she ain't no spring chicken and it has to be torture - I wonder where TPC is ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 15:06
I don't know if she can take this, she ain't no spring chicken and it has to be torture - I wonder where TPC is ???

Online now ... had to go to a meeting ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 15:13
Glad you are here with us, TPC.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 15:17
Glad you are here with us, TPC.

Not much I can do I'm afraid except sit with everyone else and hope the rain tapers off again soon .... going to go check all my weather sites ... brb
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 15:24
We are right on the darn trailing edge of this darn weather system ... rain is tapering off some and hopefully it will continue to do so ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: SuzieQmb on May 31, 2013, 15:35
I was away from my desk for a few minutes and just came back.  The puddle seems to have gone down again, so that's a very good thing.  I wish it would just quit raining.......we need sunshine!  Hopefully none of those other eggs are considering hatching before it quits!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 15:48
What are the chances the 'puddle' has reached the chick at some point? - I try not to wonder but there it is in my head.  :( Even if the water goes down, once the chick is wet....... :-\ - TPC you know the makeup of the Ledge - any chance the puddle could drain without having reached underneath Princess? ie does it run down the sides into the drain, or just spreads all over?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 15:49
I was away from my desk for a few minutes and just came back.  The puddle seems to have gone down again, so that's a very good thing.  I wish it would just quit raining.......we need sunshine!  Hopefully none of those other eggs are considering hatching before it quits!

Yup rain is tapering off, 1/2 as much is falling as it was 45 minutes ago ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: birdcamfan on May 31, 2013, 15:50
Nice job on the interview TPC!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 16:03
What are the chances the 'puddle' has reached the chick at some point? - I try not to wonder but there it is in my head.  :( Even if the water goes down, once the chick is wet....... :-\ - TPC you know the makeup of the Ledge - any chance the puddle could drain without having reached underneath Princess? ie does it run down the sides into the drain, or just spreads all over?

The corner where Princess is this year is actually a little plateau of small and larger gravel.  There is another scrape nearby which has had water in it at least once today but it drains out quickly down through the gravel.  For the chick to have gotten wet, the water level would have had to come all the way up beneath the scrape and I can't say that I saw that happening, but my camera angles are pretty much the same as yours.  There is another little higher spot at the front of the ledge (near the point) that I don't think is as high as Princess' plateau and it looked fine - wet from above but not from below.

Another concern for our first Radisson chick is that s/he hasn't been fed alot over the last couple of days.  S/he can't eat much at a sitting so there has to be hours between feedings, but given a choice between hungry chick and wet chick it seems that Princess has rightly chosen hungry chick.  Now when is hungry not a safe thing for a chick this age, I'm afraid I can't tell you.  So it may be that the rain may indirectly harm the chick because Princess can't get off him/her to feed without putting him/her at risk of getting wet.

Only time will tell folks.  First thing is for the rain to stop long enough for Princess to get food in him/her - even tapering off to spitting might be good enough for Princess to take the risk.  Come tomorrow, if the chick has survived, then s/he can make up for lost meals over the weekend and I'm sure his/her parents will be only too happy to oblige.

Rainfall rate continues to fall ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 16:03
Is this where we share and pour our souls regarding this dreary, wet day for Princess & Ivy?  Just have to join in and say this is killing me too.  What the heck is with the weather god's and Winnipeg?  This lousy spring just keeps on going.  I too can hardly watch the cam, really a downer to see Princess like this.  I'm hoping for good news by tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 16:04
Nice job on the interview TPC!  

Thank you  :)    Hope it made sense, I was watching the cam and checking the weather sites at the same time ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 16:05
Shift Change - Ivy's there nice and dry ... checking the recorder ...

1604h - Princess got off when Ivy brought food but reluctantly - she went off to eat - chick looks perfectly dry but didn't "get up".  Ivy's tucked down very tight on eggs and chick and we will have to see how this plays out ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 16:07
did anyone see life in the chick during this shift change?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 16:11
No...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 16:13
Hope Princess has a nice LONG break - meal , dry up a bit, rest a bit - she must REALLY need it -  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 16:14
I was assuming someone would reply "yes" they had seen movement.  Had I considered  a "no" I wouldn't have asked.  Not what I wanted to hear.   :( 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 16:16
I'm sorry, but just read TPC's tweet, 

"Chick looked dry & fluffy but very quiet. Need to wait & see"

Also not what I wanted to hear.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 16:16
 :( :( - Just sleeping hopefully
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 16:22
your assuming I know how to tweet ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 16:25
:( :( - Just sleeping hopefully

Ivy got wind caught under his tail and it started to flip him so he needed to re-position a few minutes ago and the chick look unresponsive, so it may well be that though it was dry and warm, it was just too long between meals for such a young chick.  I would very much like to be wrong so I'm happy to wait and see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 16:27
Rain is down to less than a 1mm / hour - so far 28.4mm since 0730h today.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 16:31
TPC, what are you expecting for timing of other hatches?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 16:32
Maybe too little too late (as usual) for the one fluffy  :-\ - hopefully the eggs are still ok - I find it very difficult not to be RIPPING MAD right now.  >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 16:33
I hear you ballywing.  I keep wondering why some kind of cage with a latch on it for easy removal can't be placed over that ledge every spring to prevent this from happening.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 16:37
Hm - yes maybe a lattice type mesh/wire laid across the surface -  like the bottom of a bird cage - so they can land on there and hang around on there but wouldn't choose to nest there.  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 16:59
Chick visible. Does not seem to be moving at all. :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 17:00
 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 17:00
I hear you ballywing.  I keep wondering why some kind of cage with a latch on it for easy removal can't be placed over that ledge every spring to prevent this from happening.  

We've been looking at scenarios just in case, one of which is a wire system with maybe a couple of perches for them to still use the ledge but not nest on it.  It will take some major renovations to install without damaging the roof of the meeting room and its not an easy location to access or work on.  Also, the Hotel has changed hands three times I believe in the last 5 years and the Hotel has been great to work with and we hope to be able to take a workable proposal to them that won't be prohibitively expensive, won't damage the hotel, won't injure the birds, is safe & secure for pedestrians and vehicular traffic and won't interfere with building operations/maintenance.

We thought we'd have time to come up with an idea/solution.  Trey fledged from the ledge so he always viewed it as a possible nesting location.  Ivy wasn't and he has never paid much attention to the ledge.  This spring he was very confused, not only with all the female attention he was getting (Jules then Joli) but because Princess wouldn't come to the nestbox - that's why we didn't know she was back, she didn't visit the nestbox at all and everytime we were on the roof (cameras, nestbox cleaning, etc) she was no where in sight.  Honestly didn't think she would go back to the ledge when he was so busy and ever present at the nestbox.  So why did she go to the ledge - nothing wrong with the nestbox and she has nested there for the last few years without a quibble ... one possibility is the building of the new hotel across from the MTS Centre.  The year the MTS Centre was being built, the resident female Madame hung out on the nestledge and in the end didn't nest at all, who knows if that was the same for Princess this year.

Why she chose to nest on the ledge we'll never know.  Time will tell if we can find a way to not interfere with the birds' habitat here at the nestsite but still find a way to discourage them from nesting there that is safe and affordable which can also be installed 14 storeys above the ground.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 17:02
Is that the chick right under Ivy's chest? He was picking at it - no response.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 17:03
HOLY there's another chick??? ??? :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Sue on May 31, 2013, 17:05
Poor little thing never had a chance with this crazy rain  :'(  Hope the eggs are okay.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 17:05
When the parent moved at the top of the hour, gnawing on leftovers, there were three eggs and one chick, which is currently under the parent's front chest area. You can see a bit of the chick under the chin now. Still just the one chick, I think.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 31, 2013, 17:06
Chick does look unresponsive to me.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Baffled on May 31, 2013, 17:07
TPC tweeting (see the lower right hand side of main cam page) at 5pm that it looks like we lost the chick.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: RCF on May 31, 2013, 17:11
I cried watching Ivy nudge the baby, I could tell there was no life in it, this is so very sad. :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 31, 2013, 17:12
TPC tweeting (see the lower right hand side of main cam page) at 5pm that it looks like we lost the chick.
Yup. That's exactly what I thought.  I have been away from home all day. Just walked in and saw the poor little chick and knew immediately he was gone. :'(  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: carly on May 31, 2013, 17:12
I'm so very sorry to read this news  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Cooper on May 31, 2013, 17:15
I cried watching Ivy nudge the baby, I could tell there was no life in it, this is so very sad. :'(

Yes, after watching Princess's valiant efforts these last two days and seeing Ivy now, my heart is breaking too.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Stormy on May 31, 2013, 17:18
So very sorry to hear this sad news . . . Princess did the best she could.  Heartbreaking.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 31, 2013, 17:21
What do you think about any of the other eggs, TPC? Do you think it's past the time that we can expect them to hatch? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 17:23
It is likely our first chick of the year was just too weak to make it through the storm today folks.  It was almost 12 hours between feedings today and yesterday was a bit better but this would have been tough for any day-old chick to tolerate.  Thinking back to 2011, I suspect the same kind of thing might have happened or could have contributed to the deaths of one or both of the McKenzie Seeds chicks during that horrendous week of rain.  Because Hurricane is not a big female keeping her chicks dry did mean fewer meals and that could have played a part in their deaths.  No way to know for sure of course, but Hurricane hadn't nested through horrible weather like that before so even with a nestbox it was hard for her, good parent though she is.  Princess has (unfortunately) been through storms - ice, hail, snow and rain - but even she could only do one or the other - keep her kid dry or fed.  She made the right choice but it was still a gamble and the weather wasn't playing fair by lasting so long.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 17:26
2 things:  Ballywing saw a second hatch?  And is that Ivy still on the eggs?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 17:27
What do you think about any of the other eggs, TPC? Do you think it's past the time that we can expect them to hatch? ???

No way for me to say for sure what might happen I'm afraid Kinderchick.  That Princess and Ivy are still on them is a very hopeful sign and with the cooler weather that could have slowed things down.  Only time will tell ... the next three days are forecasted to be warm and sunny, good days for a hatch ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 17:32
2 things:  Ballywing saw a second hatch?  And is that Ivy still on the eggs?

Yes, Ivy still on eggs.  No to the second hatch - there is a very pale egg that can look like a chick during the brief moments we get to see the eggs/chick.  I think if we do get more hatches, we will only get two.  I think the egg I saw that "pip" on a couple of days ago may not be viable, I think during Ivy's last re-positioning, I saw the egg and could see the pip just the way I saw it then.  Hope I'm wrong, but I do have a sneaking suspicion ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bev. on May 31, 2013, 17:32
I am so sorry this has happened. who knows for sure.

let us hope the other eggs hatch out . at least one of them anyway

 :-* to all of you
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Kinderchick on May 31, 2013, 17:34
CBC Radio News just announced the passing of our dear little chick. :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: soaring west on May 31, 2013, 17:36
I am so sorry to hear about the chick. My the eggs and other chicks be ok.. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 17:36
TPC, were you concerned that the newly hatched chick seemed to be lying down so much.
Could s/he have been not strong right from hatching?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: newchick on May 31, 2013, 17:41
TPC, were you concerned that the newly hatched chick seemed to be lying down so much.
Could s/he have been not strong right from hatching?
Who knows BCBird, but, I wonder, it is indeed sad news that we've lost the poor little guy, :o, ::) the weather as Tracey was saying in an earlier post hasn't been favorable, rain, pouring rain, miserable cold and very windy.  Just hope the rest of the brood will be o.k.   :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 17:42
TPC, were you concerned that the newly hatched chick seemed to be lying down so much.
Could s/he have been not strong right from hatching?  

It is possible, but just as possible s/he was fine at hatching and it was came after that was the problem.  We estimated hatch was sometime around 0300 or 0330h yesterday, only saw three meals all day and none of them very long in duration and you know how unstable these chicks are after hatch, it's agonizing to see how long and how carefully the adults have to be to feed them.  Might have had a meal maybe two during the night (Ivy is regularly active after dark) but then nothing (or nothing I saw) after 0500h this morning.  So, entirely possible.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 18:02
I thought for sure I had seen another chick when Ivy was moving around before - must have been wrong, sorry!  :-[ - And it's still raining... :'( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: GCG on May 31, 2013, 18:05
 :'( :'( :'( Princess did her best to keep her eggs and chick warm and dry. This rain was too much.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 18:15
With just the eggs, Ivy can help with the incubating in the rain ... it is falling at under 1mm/hour, so not nearly as heavy as for Princess, but he'll get just as wet ... nuts, lied, now it's 1mm/hour and forecast says 1mm this evening and no rain overnight ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 18:17
At least she'll get a break, she must be exhausted - the radar shows we're still smack in the middle of a band of rain - supposed to end over night. Can't come soon enough. Hope at least a couple of the eggs are still ok.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: moka on May 31, 2013, 18:36
How terrible. :'(

Yet, I suppose this makes the fact that they do succeed, more often than not, one of nature's miracles.

I include Princess' tenacity and devotion as part of that miracle.

Good luck Princess and Ivy with the rest of your eggs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 19:09
I hope Princess takes a long break to feed and replenish her stores of energy.
Ivy likely had a good food cache prepared.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 19:37
Had a look at the camera and thought that doesn't look like Ivy and it wasn't ... checked the recorder and Princess hopped back on the eggs and the chick at 1845h.  She looked all dry and ready to get back to business, Ivy made sure she was close by before he relinquished his place.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 19:43
Wind must have changed, the cam is bouncing again - It looks like poor Chick#1 has been nudged aside - over by the drain cover. Or is that something else, as it looks like 2 of them over there - 2 white lumps of something? One of them is behind Princess' tail feathers, can't see it well.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on May 31, 2013, 19:44
Princess just got tossed tail over head and she took the eggs and dead chick with her.  She has gathered up the eggs but not the chick.  The white "lumps" against the drain cover are the chick and the remains of the eggshell.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Linder on May 31, 2013, 20:13
Unfortunately winds are supposed to gust from NE around 60 and die down around midnight. Hope the remaining 2 hold off until morning. Couple of days of rain in forecast for next week.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Moonstar on May 31, 2013, 20:16
So sad the Chick #1 died.  It was just too small to survive the horrid weather we have had since it hatched.  Too much rain, too much wind and not very warm tempuratures.  Hopefully the remaining eggs are okay.  Tomorrow and Sunday are supposed to be sunny but not too warm...mid teens.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Elaine L on May 31, 2013, 20:21
I am so sorry to read this.  I well remember June 2008, and now this.  Thanks to TPC and everyone else for the updates and information on this sad occasion.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 20:29
I guess we'll never know why Princess chose this NASTY ledge again after a few good years in the nice dry, sheltered West Nest - Ivy sure was confused about it - even construction noise annoyances would be better than this. Hopefully some sort of screen can be put down on the East so it doesn't happen again...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: MayShowers on May 31, 2013, 20:30
I was so sad to hear the chick didn't survive despite the efforts of Princess.  :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: Stormy on May 31, 2013, 21:20
I just saw a shift change and noticed that one of the three eggs seemed to be off by itself and not under Princess.  When Ivy (?) went on the other two eggs, didn't look like he brought the other egg under him.  So, perhaps it wasn't viable after all.  Oh poo! :( :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 31, 2013, 21:22
Princess has just returned from her brief break and pulled the little dead chick under her with the eggs :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 21:25
Is the cam working for you Susha?  I can't get it to load for about an hour now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 31, 2013, 21:29
It's working fine for me, Irenekl.  Have you tried a different search engine?  I've been using Google Chrome :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 21:29
its working now.  I could see Brandon but not Winnipeg.  Strange.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 31, 2013, 21:32
I'm glad you got it working!

Just saw Princess getting blown onto her head with that horrible wind!  She just can't get a break >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: irenekl on May 31, 2013, 21:37
Thank goodness there isn't another chick to feed tonight.  Its hard enough watching Princess & Ivy cope with the discomfort of this weather without that yet too.
Crossing my fingers that there isn't another hatch til the morning sunshine.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: ballywing on May 31, 2013, 21:46
Princess must have lost so much body heat today, she was drenched most of the day - I hope the other 2 eggs weren't damaged by that, it seems so late for them to be hatching now - I guess we'll know more tomorrow.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 31, 2013, 21:47
I've been watching the chicks on the Great River Energy site - they were due around the same time as ours and two healthy chicks have hatched over the last couple of days and are thriving in the dry nestbox :)

It's bittersweet to watch  :-* :'(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 21:51
I watched Elk River awhile too, Susha.

It is hard to see the contrasts, or think of the what ifs.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: allikat on May 31, 2013, 21:53
What an unfortunate loss - darn weather this year, it's been nasty to nature.
I always say, everything happens for a reason, even though this reason seems harsh, and Mother Nature has interesting ways about dealing with things...
Let's hope that this weather turns around and provides these hard working birds a much deserved break, and hope for the best.
To me, from a novice and non-expert, it's a positive thing that Princess continues to incubate those eggs.  She's an extremely experienced Mum and Falcon, so, time will tell, and Princess knows what's going on under that warm feathered breast of hers.   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: bcbird on May 31, 2013, 21:54
Princess has settled back to face the wind.  

At least she looks dry and is snoozing without exertion.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / May
Post by: susha on May 31, 2013, 21:56
And that's the difference between us and nature - It's wonderful to see Mary Ellen, comfortable, dry and relaxed with her two babies and I'm heartbroken, wishing that Princess could be doing the same thing.  Princess however, has no inkling of self-pity or feelings of hardship.  She just carries on, completely unaware of all of us cheering her on :-*
Title: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: noellat on June 01, 2013, 06:36
I just saw two chicks moving on a shift change.  No feeding though.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: photosbydennis on June 01, 2013, 06:42
Princess feeding both chicks this morning...Tracy will perhaps know what trime they hatched out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: carly on June 01, 2013, 06:55
Bittersweet news to wake up to!  Congratulations and hoping for the very best for these two and all of you  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 01, 2013, 07:26
It will be interesting to hear exactly when these two chicks hatched, when & if they've been fed, etc.  And is it the odd egg with the "pip" in it that is still unhatched? 

Hope today is a good day for our peregrines!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 01, 2013, 07:27
Good news about the two newly hatched chicks!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 01, 2013, 07:28
Caught a glimpse of the 2 little fluff balls this morning  ;D ;D- parent just turned around and tucked everyone (2 chicks + one egg) under.

Parent's back is to the camera with head tucked down.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 01, 2013, 07:29
It will be interesting to hear exactly when these two chicks hatched, when & if they've been fed, etc.  And is it the odd egg with the "pip" in it that is still unhatched? 

Hope today is a good day for our peregrines!

Someone on the cam page posted they saw both chicks being fed at 6:40am.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Sue on June 01, 2013, 07:38
One hungry fluffy "yelling" for food.  :D  Princess looks like she's calling Ivy.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 01, 2013, 07:50
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radbaby002.jpg)  (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radbaby.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 01, 2013, 08:11
Just a short video of one of the little ones. http://youtu.be/rD14awEp8zI (http://youtu.be/rD14awEp8zI)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radbaby002.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 01, 2013, 08:28
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radbaby003.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: birdcamfan on June 01, 2013, 08:30
Blue skies today, thank goodness.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 01, 2013, 08:36
Way to go Princess!!  Got a couple of days before more rain - time to fatten up the fluffies :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 01, 2013, 08:48
Wind keeps threatening to blow Princess off her babes, but she's velcroed :)  Mother of the Year for this birdie!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 08:55
According to the recorder from pre-dawn to now ...


... and to answer Irenekl's question, I think perhaps it has ... the egg remaining looks darker, but maybe it is turned around.  If it is viable, I would expect it to hatch out soon given the delay and how fast these two arrived post storm ... have to wait and see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 09:00
You knew this was coming ...  ;)

Day - Clear. High of 16C. Breezy. Winds from the North at 20 to 25 km/h.
Night - Clear. Low of 4C. Breezy. Winds from the North at 10 to 20 km/h.

Checking the U of W station, the winds aren't just from the north, they are clocking around downtown like crazy - isn't a single direction they haven't blown this morning.  Wind speeds have been averaging about 17 km/h but at this station there have been gusts this morning up to 46.7km/h.  Hopefully these gusts are the tail end of the storm and it will be less "breezy" (nice euphemism) as the day goes on.  That will at least make it easier for Princess and Ivy to find "toss-less" positions in which to brood.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 01, 2013, 09:32
Just a short video of one of the little ones. http://youtu.be/rD14awEp8zI (http://youtu.be/rD14awEp8zI)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radbaby002.jpg)

thanks for the pictures and video.  :)

Such a ray of sunshine and hope after yesterday.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 01, 2013, 09:34
... Mother of the Year for this birdie!
8)
What wonderful news to wake up to! 2 brand new fluffy chicks! "Mother of the Year" title is certainly well deserved! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 01, 2013, 09:35
So glad to know there's some good news happening after yesterday.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 09:47
BOT... Is that Princess we see on the chicks right now? :-\

Yes, that's Princess ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 01, 2013, 10:04
Princess sure is working hard at keeping those chicks & egg covered with the wind blowing her off her "family".
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 01, 2013, 10:14
Hope this weather cuts her a break soon, I think she's due for a few nice warm sunny windless days! If there is such a thing areound here..   :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 01, 2013, 10:19
 ;D  So very happy to see the two chicks. Princess your diligence paid off this morning. Sure is a hungry chick on your video, RCF. Thank you for posting it.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 01, 2013, 10:20
Feeding time!
Two hungry chicks doing a good job keeping their heads up.
The lost chick is still in the pile, along with one egg.

Edited to add: Ivy has now come to take over duties while Princess finishes her meal.

Edited to add: a big gust of wind knocked Ivy over, and chicks and egg went flying. He gathered them up, then Princess came back to the nest to show him how it's done.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 01, 2013, 10:30
I only saw 1 chick being fed when I returned to my computer a few minutes ago. Thanks for posting that you saw 2 chicks being fed, Baffled. :-* I was beginning to get concerned about the 2nd one. I guess he/she was "fed up" and was laying down by the time I returned to observe a feeding.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 10:33
Yup, every year the "men" have to re-learn how to get all the kids tucked under ... fortunately they catch on quick  ::)

Ivy was having trouble getting his two chicks under him after they ate, Princess is likely off to have a rest and a preen before returning ... generally she isn't gone long when the chicks are this young.

Yup, didn't take her long (about 90 seconds) to return and physically push Ivy off the chicks (he really didn't want to go).  She'll preen later I guess ...  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 01, 2013, 10:36
Ivy really is a very attentive dad. Reminds me a lot of his dad, Trey, in that regard. He sure is a good "provider", even if he is "a ladies man". ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 01, 2013, 10:37
Does the heart good to see two hungry chicks being fed by their dad...then cuddled by him doing his best ::)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 10:40
Gods, I hate this ledge, Princess just got tossed and the chicks went with her again.  She's got most of her charges back under her, but there is one escapee and I think perhaps the dead chick is over by the wall now (just out of camera range) but I'm not sure.  It would be nice if the wind clocked a bit to the west, that would make a huge difference on the ledge ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 10:45
Princess needs to turn herself around so her tail is between the drain and the wall, that way she can't get tossed ... her face would be in the wind but her no room for the wind to get under her tail.  But given how long she was stuck like that the last couple of days though, I can understand her not wanting to sit like that now ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 01, 2013, 10:46
I think you have LOTS of company in your feelings about this Ledge TPC!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 01, 2013, 10:49
Princess needs to turn herself around so her tail is between the drain and the wall, that way she can't get tossed ...
Well, she has turned herself around a bit now, so she has "partially" heard your suggestion, TPC. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 10:51
I think you have LOTS of company in your feelings about this Ledge TPC!  >:( >:( >:(  

Days like this remind me again why putting something on this ledge for them to nest in could be a really bad idea ... I have visions of a rooftop getting "tossed" just like Princess and careening across or down Portage Avenue propelled by a 40km/h gust of wind ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 11:44
1145h - chicks are on their own at the moment ... and now Ivy has arrived ... he may be starting his "trick" - bring Princess food but drop it off away from the nest so she has to leave the chicks for a few minutes or awhile ...

And to confirm, yes the dead chick is out of the nestscrape and just out of camera range.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 11:48
1149h - trick didn't work for long, Princess just came back and again, physically encouraged him off the chicks/egg ... sneaky Ivy  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 01, 2013, 11:58
1145h - ... and now Ivy has arrived ... he may be starting his "trick" - bring Princess food but drop it off away from the nest so she has to leave the chicks for a few minutes or awhile ...

That Ivy is one smart bird. Gotta love him. LOL! 8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 01, 2013, 13:00
1149h - trick didn't work for long, Princess just came back and again, physically encouraged him off the chicks/egg ... sneaky Ivy  ;D

He's so willing to do his part, too bad he's little ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 01, 2013, 14:12
Princess called for Ivy for a while, he didn't come - so she took off anyway. Chicks uncovered for a few minutes - then Ivy shows up - but he's just standing there - now he's left - come on Princess or Ivy, it's COLD out there, get on those chicks!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 01, 2013, 14:15
He's settled on them now.

Perhaps Princess just needed to stretch her wings a bit.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 01, 2013, 14:17
Princess brought lunch, I guess Ivy wasn't doing his 'bring home the bacon' job so she did it!  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 01, 2013, 14:26
That was one of those Princess-makes-a-better-door-than-a-window feedings.

But, two squirmy active chicks visible, plus the egg.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 01, 2013, 14:38
When was the last feeding? After watching Princess calling out, I was thinking of the FoodTV challenge shows and thought, where is our squab/pigeon?  :P Chicks are so very cute and sweet. Sincerely hope the last egg hatches and weather warms up and winds decrease. Radisson Royals persevere!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 01, 2013, 14:41
When was the last feeding?
The chicks had a snack around 14:20.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 01, 2013, 15:43
Princess needs to turn herself around so her tail is between the drain and the wall, that way she can't get tossed ... her face would be in the wind but her no room for the wind to get under her tail.  But given how long she was stuck like that the last couple of days though, I can understand her not wanting to sit like that now ...

Thank goodness she was in that perfect position when it really counted.

Uninterupted end incubation time has given these two healthy chicks.     
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 01, 2013, 15:58
She is such a good 'Mom' so experienced and wise  :-* - but I really wouldn't blame her if she retires after this year - in the meantime, we can enjoy our Princess once again doing her thing so well with 2 healthy chicks (or 3)  - and PRAY that this family overcomes the hazards of the dreaded LEDGE!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 16:59
1700h
just finished another meal ... Ivy made Princess retrieve it but he only got a couple of minutes with the chicks before she brought back and early supper and muscled him out the way ... she's tucked down on the still just 2 chicks and the last egg.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 01, 2013, 17:08
The wind is up again and Princess just got tossed and the kids a bit but they were back under Mom in seconds ... fortunately, the kids tumble very well ... now Princess has her tail almost between the drain cover and the wall so she should be able sleep rest without surprises ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 01, 2013, 18:10
Looks like feeding time again! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: soaring west on June 01, 2013, 18:26
Feeding time was a good chance to look at the new babies..  peek a boo
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 01, 2013, 18:58
Darn, I missed it AGAIN! I've spent a lot of time watching Princess sleep...  :P

Oh well, there's still tomorrow.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jazzerkins on June 01, 2013, 21:33
feeding going on right now, tow chicks and egg. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 01, 2013, 21:39
I'm very thankful for this blog. I have to be out of town today and tomorrow but I can check the forum on my iPhone and am always happy to read that things are okay at the nest site. Thanks for the updates on feedings especially. That tells me alot. Keeping my fingers crossed for the weather next week!  Keep the posts coming my fellow bloggers :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bev. on June 02, 2013, 00:22
I am so happy for the two hatches and feeds.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 02, 2013, 06:36
6:30am - quick snack . . I missed the drop off. Parent's back was to the camera so not a great view. I could see 2 chicks and one egg that were quickly tucked back under parent.

Sunny day in Winnipeg, cool but no wind.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 02, 2013, 08:44
At last!  Princess can relax comfortably on her two chicks and hoover away to her heart's content ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 02, 2013, 09:07
It's finally supposed to be sunny & warm today. So happy for Princess, Ivy & their chicks. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2013, 09:15
This morning's chronology ....



And for today ... hallelujah no Princess flipping!

Day - Clear. High of 16C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Clear. Low of 4C. Winds less than 5 km/h.

Even though it will likely change, the long range forecast right now says zero chance of precipitation through to next Saturday.  Wouldn't that be wonderful?!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 02, 2013, 12:06
Lunchtime!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 02, 2013, 12:27
Princess was a better door than window again for the snack - but I'm just so glad we have 2 healthy chicks, and it's a NICE day - it doesn't matter - we'll get to see lots of feedings I'm sure!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 02, 2013, 12:36
Princess leaves to get lunch, Ivy comes to babysit while mom prepares the food.  And of course Princess blocks the feed. ;D

I shortened the video.   http://youtu.be/YD_VAYKXv8k (http://youtu.be/YD_VAYKXv8k)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radprincess0045.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bev. on June 02, 2013, 14:02
 :-* RCF
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 02, 2013, 14:17
RCF, appreciate all that work, fun to watch.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2013, 16:50
1651h - meal time, Princess is a little to the right now but that means you can see part of a chick but not the meal being delivered  - Princess Door  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 02, 2013, 17:04
1651h - meal time, Princess is a little to the right now but that means you can see part of a chick but not the meal being delivered  - Princess Door  ::)  ;D

After she moved. :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radprincess005.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 02, 2013, 18:27
LOL! Looks as if Ivy did not prepare dinner this evening. Princess had to pluck the feathers away before serving it to the chicks. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 02, 2013, 18:33
I thought she was grabbing a bite while she could! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 02, 2013, 21:06
So looks like the last two meals of the day were at 1830h and 2030h.  Princess has her feathers between the drain and the wall and she's been doing some extra shuggling, as though to say "don't make me come under there" to the ex-eggs.  It's been almost 4 days since chick 1 hatched and 2 days since chicks 2 and 3, can't say whether egg 4 will hatch but if it is going to, I would think it would happen in the next day, maybe two ... we'll just have to wait and see I guess.

supposed to be partly cloudy but 20C tomorrow in Winnipeg and no rain, sounds like a good day to hatch if I were an egg ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 03, 2013, 05:50
There must be some action from the little ones under Princess. She has been doing some shuggle and shifting to keep them tucked in. While doing this I was able to see the egg and it appears to have a large pip. Can today bring the total to three?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 03, 2013, 06:41
Princess leaves to get lunch, Ivy comes to babysit while mom prepares the food.  And of course Princess blocks the feed. ;D

I shortened the video.   http://youtu.be/YD_VAYKXv8k (http://youtu.be/YD_VAYKXv8k)


Great video & pics RCF - thanks so much for sharing and thank you to TPC for the updates.

I like the Tweets this year - nice for a quick update (and the only page I can view from work . . .on my lunch break of course)

Princess (I believe) is curled up with her back to the camera and everyone tucked in.

Should be a sunny day in Winnipeg. While feathers being ruffled by the breeze, it looks windier than it is. Right now there is a NE wind at 5 km/h
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 03, 2013, 07:59
These two just got fed.  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rad06.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 03, 2013, 08:01
Darn! Just missed the feeding. :( TPC is going to be on CBC radio in a few minutes, after the 8:00 AM news, giving an update on how the 2 Radisson chicks are doing. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 03, 2013, 08:27
Ivy came in with some food during my interview with Marcy Markusa on CBC and she turned him away ... thought he was going to pull a "sneaky" on him and make her leave the chicks so he could get some daddy time with them, but no ..


For today ....

Day - Clear in the morning, then overcast. High of 19C. Winds from the ENE at 5 to 15 km/h.
Night - Overcast. Low of 8C. Winds from the East at 5 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 03, 2013, 11:29
Our two fluffies seem to have grown a bit. They stand a little more steadily. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 03, 2013, 12:19
Princess is a bit restless.

In the past 15 minutes, she's shuggled and shuffled and changed positions until she's done a 360.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 03, 2013, 12:20
Interesting observation, Baffled. Maybe annother hatch in progress? ??? Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 03, 2013, 12:21
Or Ivy's late with lunch. She has been looking around and up quite a bit.

Edited to add: she's just left the ledge.

Edited again: and now she's back with lunch!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 03, 2013, 12:34
Yup. That's why she was restless. It was lunch time! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 03, 2013, 16:08
Check the egg folks, can't tell if its a chick about to make its appearance or that the egg is non-viable and has been damaged ... would be cool if it were the former ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 03, 2013, 16:16
I agree. Didn't know if something was stuck on it or what ???

But those fluffies sure can eat. Incredible how something so small can open its mouth so wide.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 03, 2013, 18:55
Check the egg folks, can't tell if its a chick about to make its appearance or that the egg is non-viable and has been damaged ... would be cool if it were the former ...

I actually was wondering about that egg earlier in the day myself, TPC & moka. I kept staring hard at it, thinking that I could see a pip and a bit of cracking. Then I thought maybe it was just the light or a shadow or something stuck to it. Hard to say. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 03, 2013, 19:05
Chicks just had a feeding. Did anyone see the remaining egg? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 03, 2013, 19:07
Chicks just had a feeding. Did anyone see the remaining egg? ???

Nope!   She's not being very cooperative. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 03, 2013, 19:07
Chicks just had a feeding. Did anyone see the remaining egg? ???
No Kinderchick.  Princess was blocking the view.  But, good to see the two chicks are looking good and strong.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Gingerlee on June 03, 2013, 20:09
feeding time, Princess is blocking the view
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 03, 2013, 20:14
Chicks just had a feeding. Did anyone see the remaining egg? ???
No Kinderchick.  Princess was blocking the view.  But, good to see the two chicks are looking good and strong.

Egg is still an egg and I couldn't see the depression or hole or whatever ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 04, 2013, 05:44
Spectacular sunrise this morning - the pink glow is the reflection of the sky
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/Princess20130604530h.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/Princess20130604530h.jpg.html)


A few minutes later
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/20130604536am.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/20130604536am.jpg.html)

(My first captures of the season - hope they are okay)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RaptorGal on June 04, 2013, 06:04
6AM.  Princess feeding her two phanatachickies!  What a great site to see.  My first time seeing the phanatical feedings!  Beautiful!
6:05AM  There is a great shuggling going on, as the phanatachickies get their feather blanket spread over them!   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2013, 10:12
Princess has been sticking like glue to the chicks and their second meal today (0755h) was much shorter than meal one (0555h), might be that she knows there is a chance of rain today and isn't taking any chances


Tuesday forecast for Winnipeg

Day - Overcast. High of 19C. Breezy. Winds from the ESE at 10 to 20 km/h.
Night - Overcast with a chance of rain. Low of 7C. Winds less than 5 km/h. Chance of rain 50%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2013, 10:13
One of the chicks seems to be having a bad hair day - probably got poop or regurgitation on his/her head ...  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Ellie on June 04, 2013, 10:58
I know this nest site is not a good one considering the tragedy previous.........could a grate be put in place on the top of it to prevent the PF's from using it? It is so unprotected from the elements. In nature there are at least tall grasses, shrubs, trees etc. around for protection. Just wondering!!!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 04, 2013, 11:02
It is so unprotected from the elements. In nature there are at least tall grasses, shrubs, trees etc. around for protection. Just wondering!!!!

Hmmm, well we must remember that wild Peregrines nest mostly on rocky cliffs, so they don't rely on grass/shrubs/trees in the wild for nest protection. The birds are used to strong winds.

They don't know all these humans watching them cringe whenever a big gust blows them over!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: SuzieQmb on June 04, 2013, 12:39
Feeding happening right now, but mom's in the way......dad just showed up for a few seconds, and then left!

Princess just stepped a little to the side....still just 2 chicks and an egg.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2013, 13:21
I know this nest site is not a good one considering the tragedy previous.........could a grate be put in place on the top of it to prevent the PF's from using it? It is so unprotected from the elements. In nature there are at least tall grasses, shrubs, trees etc. around for protection. Just wondering!!!!

Actually this ledge is exactly the kind of place they nest on in non-urban or rather non-man-made environments.  Just gravel and some horizontal space.  They actually have more room on this ledge than many cliff ledges that are chosen for nests.  We humans are the ones that don't like this nest because we foresee the problems that can arise because of it.  As for installing something on it, one of the reasons we hate the ledge is because we don't have access and anything that gets put on that ledge really needs to be maintained and we can't do that reliably.  The risk is that whatever goes on the ledge could come off and then become a flying hazard for people or vehicles or property, or heck, even the peregrines.  So if we do something, it has to be safe, not interfere with Hotel operations and not be a hazard to the peregrines or other birds, but they will still visit the ledge even if we (the hotel and the Project) "do" something to it.  Not just a straight forward endeavour I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 04, 2013, 13:37
Princess is feeding the two chicks. The lone egg is still intact with what looks like a white pip. ::) TPC, is there still a chance for this egg to hatch?  ??? I forgot the dates the eggs were laid.  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2013, 13:51
Princess is feeding the two chicks. The lone egg is still intact with what looks like a white pip. ::) TPC, is there still a chance for this egg to hatch?  ??? I forgot the dates the eggs were laid.  ???

It is Day 40 and I suspect that the egg won't hatch and that the parents will push it away or the chicks will move away from it (and their parents will go with them) ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 04, 2013, 13:52
Maybe a one-time installation of a grate screwed down to the 'floor' of the ledge a few inches off the ground - would be snug & tight, still allow for visits but not nesting?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2013, 15:25
Maybe a one-time installation of a grate screwed down to the 'floor' of the ledge a few inches off the ground - would be snug & tight, still allow for visits but not nesting?  ???

The primary concern is safety, how do we maintain it and keep peregrines (and other birds), pedestrians, vehicles, property (our hotel and other buildings) safe?  We have had a number of ideas that would keep the birds off the ledge for nesting but still give them access to the ledge for other activities.  Problem is we can't just throw something up there and screw it down as appealing as that sounds  :) ... that will damage the roof and cause leaks into the meeting rooms which is an unnecessary cost and inconvenience for the hotel that hosts our birds.  We check and do any repairs/cleaning/replacing of our nestboxes twice a year, spring and fall.  And what about when the hotel has to do maintenance or window cleaning, what won't interfere with the work they need to do?  And when it rusts because of our wet and snowy weather?  or the points where it gets attached are compromised because we've drilled into it concrete (think freeze-and-thaw cycle) - then we have to redo it all again and we damaged the building unnecessarily and perhaps caused structural damage as well.  And how much will it cost to have someone working off a lift - no power, can't work when its at all windy or wet or cold for safety reasons, you can see it isn't a quick fix.  

Basically, we are thinking about what we might be able to do.  Then we will look to see if we can do it safely.  Then we will look at raising the money to do it.  Then we will look at how best to do it.  And then we'll do it.  Or not because its too dangerous, too expensive, the peregrines have moved (or become extirpated) or, or, or.  Technically we don't need to do anything and some would say that we shouldn't do anything because they are wild nesting peregrines who are choosing to nest there and "there" is no different from a wild nest on a cliff face (which is very true).  Let nature take it's course.  And that is just as reasonable as going through all sorts of hoops to block off access to a ledge that has been used 5 times (I believe) in 30+ years.  So there is an argument both ways.  In the meantime, I keep looking at options ...  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Rose on June 04, 2013, 16:00
Agree with you TPC. Why don't we humans remember that these are wild birds, wild nests and think positive, forget our angst, enjoy the good parts and in bad times know that nature is unpredictable, even humans can't be protected from natural disasters. We are lucky to even be able to watch via the camera. If there was no camera we wouldn't know what was happening and therefore we wouldn't worry so much. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: soaring west on June 04, 2013, 16:08
Just remember to turn my calendar for June.. The pinup bird is Princess on the calendar.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 04, 2013, 16:10
Princess is feeding the two chicks. The lone egg is still intact with what looks like a white pip. ::) TPC, is there still a chance for this egg to hatch?  ??? I forgot the dates the eggs were laid.  ???

It is Day 40 and I suspect that the egg won't hatch and that the parents will push it away or the chicks will move away from it (and their parents will go with them) ...

TPC, I have noticed that Princess uses her beak to scrape into the stones at times. Is it possible she is preparing an area to move the two chicks?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Cooper on June 04, 2013, 16:58
Agree with you TPC. Why don't we humans remember that these are wild birds, wild nests and think positive, forget our angst, enjoy the good parts and in bad times know that nature is unpredictable, even humans can't be protected from natural disasters. We are lucky to even be able to watch via the camera. If there was no camera we wouldn't know what was happening and therefore we wouldn't worry so much. :)

Well said Rose! We are so lucky to be able to watch. I saw Princess hack up a pellet today! At first I thought she was choking and was instantly alarmed. When she'd accomplished the job, I had to laugh at myself. I'd never seen that before and had forgotten that, like owls, that's how peregrines rid themselves of the bones and whatnot.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 04, 2013, 18:02
Princess is feeding the two chicks. The lone egg is still intact with what looks like a white pip. ::) TPC, is there still a chance for this egg to hatch?  ??? I forgot the dates the eggs were laid.  ???

It is Day 40 and I suspect that the egg won't hatch and that the parents will push it away or the chicks will move away from it (and their parents will go with them) ...

TPC, I have noticed that Princess uses her beak to scrape into the stones at times. Is it possible she is preparing an area to move the two chicks?

She is tweaking the nest scrape which is why we like fo call it "hoovering"  because it is the peregrine equivalent of housecleaning crossed with feng shui ... I must admit that it always seems to happen when  they look utterly bored but I could be anthropomorphizing  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Helen b on June 04, 2013, 18:08
 ;D just saw my first feeding this year at about 5:54 pm not sure but I think it was Princess.  Chicks look great and she was turning the egg around and put it back under her with the 2 chicks.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 04, 2013, 19:42
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/20130605738pm.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/20130605738pm.jpg.html)

After the 7:30pm-ish snack
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 04, 2013, 19:47
Great screen captures, Jo! Good for you for learning how to take them & post them... something I still have to learn how to do. LOL! Cute little chick 2-some & egg pillow! :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: PrairieSailor on June 04, 2013, 19:57
Maybe a one-time installation of a grate screwed down to the 'floor' of the ledge a few inches off the ground - would be snug & tight, still allow for visits but not nesting?  ???

The primary concern is safety, how do we maintain it and keep peregrines (and other birds), pedestrians, vehicles, property (our hotel and other buildings) safe?  We have had a number of ideas that would keep the birds off the ledge for nesting but still give them access to the ledge for other activities.  Problem is we can't just throw something up there and screw it down as appealing as that sounds  :) ... that will damage the roof and cause leaks into the meeting rooms which is an unnecessary cost and inconvenience for the hotel that hosts our birds.  We check and do any repairs/cleaning/replacing of our nestboxes twice a year, spring and fall.  And what about when the hotel has to do maintenance or window cleaning, what won't interfere with the work they need to do?  And when it rusts because of our wet and snowy weather?  or the points where it gets attached are compromised because we've drilled into it concrete (think freeze-and-thaw cycle) - then we have to redo it all again and we damaged the building unnecessarily and perhaps caused structural damage as well.  And how much will it cost to have someone working off a lift - no power, can't work when its at all windy or wet or cold for safety reasons, you can see it isn't a quick fix.  

Basically, we are thinking about what we might be able to do.  Then we will look to see if we can do it safely.  Then we will look at raising the money to do it.  Then we will look at how best to do it.  And then we'll do it.  Or not because its too dangerous, too expensive, the peregrines have moved (or become extirpated) or, or, or.  Technically we don't need to do anything and some would say that we shouldn't do anything because they are wild nesting peregrines who are choosing to nest there and "there" is no different from a wild nest on a cliff face (which is very true).  Let nature take it's course.  And that is just as reasonable as going through all sorts of hoops to block off access to a ledge that has been used 5 times (I believe) in 30+ years.  So there is an argument both ways.  In the meantime, I keep looking at options ...  ;)

Perhaps I am wrong - but it would seem to me the birds are attracted to a gravel base. I have seen many a roof in Winnipeg with ordinary patio blocks as a base. Per chance if you used those on that ledge, it would not significantly add to any cost, preserve the integrity of the roof and discourage future nesting desires ??
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Ellie on June 04, 2013, 20:47
Thanks for all the ideas and answers............not an easy question I can see. Will watch wherever they decide to nest and worry like the rest of you. Such cute babies!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Ellie on June 04, 2013, 20:52
Cooper we must have been watching at the same time as I saw the choking and then there was the pellet!  New one for me also.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 04, 2013, 21:09


Perhaps I am wrong - but it would seem to me the birds are attracted to a gravel base. I have seen many a roof in Winnipeg with ordinary patio blocks as a base. Per chance if you used those on that ledge, it would not significantly add to any cost, preserve the integrity of the roof and discourage future nesting desires ??

What about this idea, TPC?  Seems like a good one... ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Rose on June 04, 2013, 22:19


Perhaps I am wrong - but it would seem to me the birds are attracted to a gravel base. I have seen many a roof in Winnipeg with ordinary patio blocks as a base. Per chance if you used those on that ledge, it would not significantly add to any cost, preserve the integrity of the roof and discourage future nesting desires ??

What about this idea, TPC?  Seems like a good one... ???

How about this for an idea. Why don't we stop pestering TPC with all our ideas because I'm sure there isn't anything out there that she hasn't thought of (just read her posts on this thread) besides just to get a lift to get up 13/14 stories is very costly. I remember when Ty, Tupper and Vesper were banded it was over a thousand dollars and maybe more to get up there to do the banding.  I'm sure the Project isn't rolling in money. I know that everyone is concerned and wants to help but TPC has answered as completely and as patiently as she can many times. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 05, 2013, 05:14
 :( Princess has pushed the non viable egg to the side. She certainly was diligent in her attempt to hatch this egg. Haven't seen a feeding as yet. I'm sure it will be soon. For them, it is breakfast time.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RaptorGal on June 05, 2013, 06:28
Princess covering the chicklets this morning.  It appears that she has abandoned the last egg and it sits off to the side away from the two sibs.  Everybirdy looks content on the roof top!   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2013, 09:13
Okay recap of early morning activities (pretty quiet)

0440h - light comes up enough to see birds - chicks under Princess, egg has been pushed away from chicks
0455h - meal # 1 - few minutes long, then Princess back on
0849h - meal # 2 - few minutes long, then Princess leaves & Ivy gets to chicksit - the 2 chicks are squirming and making it tough for him to be a good sunshade
0914h - Ivy is still on the chicks, one of the longer chances he's gotten to hang out with them since they hatched ...

and the weather forecast for the day ...

Day - Partly cloudy in the morning, then clear. High of 23C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then clear. Low of 11C. Winds from the North at 5 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 05, 2013, 09:40
Perhaps I am wrong - but it would seem to me the birds are attracted to a gravel base. I have seen many a roof in Winnipeg with ordinary patio blocks as a base. Per chance if you used those on that ledge, it would not significantly add to any cost, preserve the integrity of the roof and discourage future nesting desires ?? 

What about this idea, TPC?  Seems like a good one... ???

We have had peregrines nest on asphalt roofing, metal platforms, metal downspouts (really old large catchbasin types), bare concrete, on large stones, on astro-turf, in old crow's nests and in pigeon feces.  Of those, we have only had 3 nests (9 chicks total) survive to fledge and none of those chicks are known to have survived.  Sometimes it is just the location and not what is in it I'm afraid  :)  That's why we try to find places they are interested in and find a way to make a nestbox work at the location - win-win for us as well as the birds.  

As for putting patio blocks, they are quite heavy and we would need to put a lot of them there to fill the space - the weight could be an issue in the location because that roof was never meant to support anything so it may not be strong enough to support the blocks.  They may also be an issue to get up the side of the building and then they have to be cut to fit (remember the ledge is a triangle and some customizing would be required.  Then need to make sure that they won't interfere with drainage and then hope that the birds don't take a liking to the spot anyway.  And plants are always an issue there - you will see after the chicks leave how much vegetation grows up, so there may be plant debris the birds would take advantage of as well as any prey remains - bones in particular.  We clean out the nestboxes here, but if you watch some of the other webcams you can see how much stuff can accumulate in a nestbox over the course of a season, the feathers eventually mostly blow away but if they get combined with feces they make a pretty solid mass that isn't going anywhere - and there is a bunch of that kind of debris on the nestledge right now.

So, 1) can't interfere with building integrity, 2) can't be a potential hazard for peregrines, people & property, 3) has to be transportable, 4) can't damage building, 5) has to be a real deterrent to nesting otherwise the exercise/expense is wasted, 6) has to be affordable, 7) has to have longevity - don't want to have to redo it in a few years because it can't stand up to weather, drainage, plants growing in it, etc ... there is probably an 8th and 9th but I think you get the picture.

Relax folks, we are considering what our options are and if we don't find one this week, maybe next week or next month or the month after or the year after.  Our last nest was here in 2009 and all went fine but still we've been looking and considering what we might do to interfere with the ledge as little as possible but stop the birds from nesting there without stopping them from doing other things - roosting, hunting, defending the building, eating, courting.  And its not just adults, we want to make sure its safe for the chicks to use once they fledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Baffled on June 05, 2013, 10:20
It's nice to see Ivy getting a nice long turn on the chicks. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 05, 2013, 11:04
Makes a lot of sense, TPC.  The birds are going to nest where, when and how they choose to and going to a lot of trouble and expense, only to have them nest there anyway would be just silly ::)


Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 05, 2013, 12:40
Yup, definitely a dilemna. Nobody means to pester  :-[ - the brainstorming comes out of frustration at losing chicks as a direct result of this nesting option, so I guess many of us would really like to see that option somehow made less desirable for nesting -  in favour of the lovely dry sheltered nest on the other side of the building. After all, supporting the successful future of the Peregrine species is the mission of the Recovery Program - and this dang ledge does not help that cause.  :( ...Some things like glass buildings, landing in traffic, freak accidents can't be helped or fixed or controlled.  :-\ - But there may be a solution to this ledge and we're just airing some ideas.  :) If not for losing chick#1, we probably wouldn't be talking about it at this point. Obviously TPC knows more than we do about the whole situation and what could or couldn't work, the issues that have to be considered. Thanks for your great explanations & patience TPC  :-* - if there is anything that can be done at some point , we know you'll get it done! Meantime we have 2 fabulous chicks to watch and cheer on this summer!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 05, 2013, 13:05
 a ledge that has been used 5 times (I believe) in 30+ years.  

That's a really good reminder and puts things in to perspective - it seems like they are "always" there . . . just like it seems like it's "always" raining.

Thank you to everyone for the updates and pics / videos of the meals.  :) I've only caught the very end of a couple of meals this season .. .  I guess I "always" miss them.  ;)

Princess is looking quite content with the chicks tucked under. Lovely sunny day.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: dupre501 on June 05, 2013, 13:11
Well, it is 1 pm and the ledge is now in shadow. I guess that is one of the advantages of the ledge, it doesn't get the hot afternoon sun. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 05, 2013, 15:15
Meantime we have 2 fabulous chicks to watch and cheer on this summer!!  ;D ;D

Don't forget there will probably be chicks to watch at Brandon also!!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Sue on June 05, 2013, 18:01
Finally a feeding where we can see the chicks.  They have grown so much already :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Feather2Fin on June 05, 2013, 22:01
At the supper time feeding Princess appeared to call Ivy and then she left the young ones. Princess must have been hungry or in need of a good wing stretch.  :D  It was about 5 minutes before Ivy showed up and took over the chick minding and feeding.  The chicks had a nice long feed and then Princess returned with another snack. I bet the chicks will be stuffed until morning. I love how the chicks hold each other up. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 06, 2013, 05:40
Just missed a feeding - tuned in to find 2 chicks and then Princess swooped and quickly tucked them in.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 06, 2013, 10:02
Morning chronology of events

first meal must have been have pre-dawn because Princess left the chicks alone twice (0531-0535 & 0732-0736) and they chicks didn't protest or beg for food.  First meal on-camera was at 0813h and the chicks wanted food then.


and weather forecast for today in Winnipeg

Day - Clear in the morning, then mostly cloudy. High of 23C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then overcast with a chance of rain. Low of 12C. Winds from the SW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 06, 2013, 17:34
Just missed a feeding - tuned in to find 2 chicks and then Princess swooped and quickly tucked them in.


530 p.m. and it looks like dinner time, but Princess is blocking the view of the camera.  Grrr!  >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 06, 2013, 18:11
Princess was being very gracious and letting us see the chicks this time.  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/Rad2C003.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/Rad2C.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/Rad2C002.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Moonstar on June 06, 2013, 19:00
Wonderful pictures RCF, thanks.  They have really grown.  They are soooo cute.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Linder on June 06, 2013, 20:50
Watched the little ones have a feed just after 8pm and then they were left on there lonesome for about 30 minutes. Thought I would see Ivy pop in for a cuddle but he was a no show. Think it was him that finally did arrive and is with them now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 06, 2013, 21:45
Cute little sleepy chick pile. :) I guess both parents are having a break right now... LOL! Spoke too soon. I'm guessing that's Princess who is back now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 06, 2013, 22:21
I was reading about west Winnipeg and Jules being protective. It reminded me of the Radisson birds.
I doubt that any peregrine parent likes any human regardless of motive.
But....... last year Ivy did pay me a visit on my balcony. I see him and Princess fly by daily so, maybe, just maybe, he sees me when I'm having a balcony nap and decides to visit. They both know me from my work roof and may have recognized me here and decided to pay a visit.
Wishful thinking on my part - most likely. But I like to think they know me.  Heavens knows, but when  on my work roof Princess yelled at me often. Dennis can attest to the evil stare, he's seen if often enough.
Raise a camera, point it at the ledge and she has a hissy fit.
Love her to pieces.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 07, 2013, 06:43
Wonderful pictures RCF, thanks.  They have really grown.  They are soooo cute.
So true, Moonstar, seems like they have doubled in size already.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 07, 2013, 07:00
Princess had to take a quick break at 0555h but she was back and there was a very quick shift change at 0604h.  There is a little light rain right now but the chicks didn't get wet ...

forecast for today

Day - Overcast with rain in the morning, then partly cloudy with thunderstorms. High of 23C. Breezy. Winds from the SSE at 15 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 70%.
Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. Fog overnight. Low of 11C. Winds from the SE at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 50%.

Will wait until later today for the weekend forecast in case it changes ... possibly a bit damp at the moment ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 07, 2013, 14:25
I'm just catching up on reading the forum posts.
Well said Allikat.
The birds have instincts that we know nothing about. We should just enjoy watching them.
 
 
What an unfortunate loss - darn weather this year, it's been nasty to nature.
I always say, everything happens for a reason, even though this reason seems harsh, and Mother Nature has interesting ways about dealing with things...
Let's hope that this weather turns around and provides these hard working birds a much deserved break, and hope for the best.
To me, from a novice and non-expert, it's a positive thing that Princess continues to incubate those eggs.  She's an extremely experienced Mum and Falcon, so, time will tell, and Princess knows what's going on under that warm feathered breast of hers.   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 07, 2013, 18:52
Still sunny out but the winds are up which may mean that there are storms on their way.  Hopefully not but we will just have to see.  Fortunately still only a 60% chance of rain tonight and the risk of a thunderstorm!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 07, 2013, 18:57
I heard it was 'Teeming' in St James about 20 min ago, but not raining yet downtown - hope it stays that way!!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 07, 2013, 19:28
Sunny downtown right now. There are dark clouds looming, but that's been happening all day long.
Not too windy 14 stories up, but the sky is changing minute by minute.
.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 08, 2013, 07:06
Hi Tracey,

Weird question.

Will Princess eventually "toss" the non-viable egg over the side of the building?  Or just let it sit there and when you do the banding you will remove?   ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2013, 10:32
Morning Chronology ...

0430ish - light enough to get a blurry look at Princess on the ledge
0615h - first meal
0813h - second meal
1030h - Princess still on chicks ... breezy today and from the amount of shake in the camera, I'm thinking south-ish ...

Interestingly, Ivy's in the nestbox ... looking upwards and yakking at someone ... he is very suspicious of something flying overhead and he's off with a mission now ... and he's back 90 seconds later, still scanning overhead ...


Forecast for today ...

Saturday
Day - Partly cloudy. High of 22C. Breezy. Winds from the SE at 15 to 20 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then overcast. Low of 12C. Winds from the ESE at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 08, 2013, 10:35
Will Princess eventually "toss" the non-viable egg over the side of the building?  Or just let it sit there and when you do the banding you will remove?   ??? 

She might remove the egg, or Ivy could.  Or they could eventually break it or it could eventually be broken as a result of normal life on the nestledge.  Will we retrieve it at banding?  We might or we might leave it.  Depends on whether we have a purpose for it and/or its easy to retrieve when we get up there ...

Not the yes/no answer you were looking for, but more accurate  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 08, 2013, 13:29
Yikes!!  :o Princess went flying a couple minutes ago, chicks rolled around - back in position now.  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 08, 2013, 16:52
I agree, Ballywing - Yikes!  Wind is sure not allowing Princess to relax much :(

Just another day when things could be so much different if another choice had been made :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 08, 2013, 17:46
These guys just got fed and after mom left one kid did a poop shot and it looks like it made the egg fall over, even though I know it was just the wind or some kind of wind. ;D  ;D

http://youtu.be/D9rwDoJ_1ww (http://youtu.be/D9rwDoJ_1ww)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rad22.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: allikat on June 08, 2013, 20:28
I wish they would turn around...don't they realize they're on camera?!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2013, 21:09
Stoopid birds.  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: allikat on June 08, 2013, 21:15
These guys just got fed and after mom left one kid did a poop shot and it looks like it made the egg fall over, even though I know it was just the wind or some kind of wind. ;D  ;D

http://youtu.be/D9rwDoJ_1ww (http://youtu.be/D9rwDoJ_1ww)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rad22.jpg)

So, uh....what do you think of our digs?  Kinda weird lookin' with this cage thing in front of us!
Yeah....I was thinkin' the same thing! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 08, 2013, 21:19
Kinda like Sam the bunny looking at a wall. Mesmerized by something that is just part of the environment.
Animals, who knows what is going through their heads?
Gotta love them no matter what.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 08, 2013, 21:34
These guys just got fed and after mom left one kid did a poop shot and it looks like it made the egg fall over, even though I know it was just the wind or some kind of wind. ;D  ;D

http://youtu.be/D9rwDoJ_1ww (http://youtu.be/D9rwDoJ_1ww)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rad22.jpg)

So, uh....what do you think of our digs?  Kinda weird lookin' with this cage thing in front of us!
Yeah....I was thinkin' the same thing! 
Love that!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 08, 2013, 21:45
Great video RCF -  :o :o

I really enjoy your captures & videos (of this gang and the Brandon family). Thanks so much! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 08, 2013, 22:16
Loved the video, RCF. 

I wish they would turn around...don't they realize they're on camera?!

It's part of the game.  "Ok, ready. Watch me get the egg!"
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 08, 2013, 23:28
Loved the video, RCF. 

I wish they would turn around...don't they realize they're on camera?!

It's part of the game.  "Ok, ready. Watch me get the egg!"

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/yellow-laughing-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Friesens on June 08, 2013, 23:33
They are the cutest little ones.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: wpgfan on June 08, 2013, 23:37
happy these two are doing well!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 09, 2013, 09:09
These two are growing, growing, growing!!  :-*

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/wpgchicks.jpg) (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/wpgchicks002.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/wpgchicks003.jpg)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Feather2Fin on June 09, 2013, 10:03
The Raddisson chicks have been parentless for an hour now.  Obviously they are getting much better at regulating their own body temperature but I hope a parent returns if/when the rain starts.  They are looking a bit sturdier everyday.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 09, 2013, 10:07
The Raddisson chicks have been parentless for an hour now.  Obviously they are getting much better at regulating their own body temperature but I hope a parent returns if/when the rain starts.  They are looking a bit sturdier everyday.

I was worried about seeing them on their own without being kept warm.  I don't think it's day 10 yet. :o ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Stormy on June 09, 2013, 10:13
Yes, I noticed that as well - no parents around.  Are they OK TPC?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 09, 2013, 10:21
Good to see a parent back at the nest.  Its pathetic of me how quickly anxiety kicks in when we notice something/anything that isn't as we think it should be.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: des on June 09, 2013, 10:27
Good to see a parent back at the nest.  Its pathetic of me how quickly anxiety kicks in when we notice something/anything that isn't as we think it should be.

I'm quite sure there always is a parent around...but I appreciate that it feels like there is "no one" there.  Whenever I've been in sight of the nest you can locate at least one of the parents on watch!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2013, 11:07
Chronology for the morning ...

0638h - first meal - everyone was hungry, Princess too
0826h - second meal
1101h - first wingercizing!!

Haven't seen Ivy all morning, not even at the nestbox but that's not a problem, he should be off hunting and keeping an eye on his family on the east side anyway.  I'm wondering however if he isn't spending much more time patrolling his nest site with Cowboy and Joli so near by.  Why?  Because it seems to me that he isn't providing as much food as he usually does ... but that's just a suspicion, I'm going to have to go check previous year's videos to be sure when I have a bit of extra time.  Is it a problem?  No, the chicks are doing well and aren't begging for food as much/hard as we have/we will see other pairs this year. 


Weather for today ....

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain, then rain in the afternoon. High of 24C. Winds from the SSE at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 80%.
Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of rain in the evening, then overcast. Low of 11C. Winds from the SE at 5 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2013, 11:09
For those worried about the parents being off the chicks, no its getting closer to the 10 day point so they are getting close to being able to thermoregulate, so as long as it isn't too sunny, too cool, wet or windy, the chicks are fine for periods of time.  As to where Princess and/or Ivy are, looking with the spycam, they are often sitting on the ledge edge ...

... and Princess may know that rain may come and is taking advantage of the neutral weather before she has to go to work, by this point the chicks are probably too large to fit "waterproofed" under Ivy so Princess will be the umbrella today I suspect ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 09, 2013, 12:06
Ivy had a short visit with the chicks before Princess arrived. 

Before long she bundled them under, and now looks to be snoozing.



Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 09, 2013, 13:01
1 p.m. Dinner time! ;D  The chicks are looking good and strong, and got a good meal.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2013, 13:22
Ivy is on the sign above the chicks and Princess was on the point of the ledge looking up at Ivy before she came to cover the chicks ... its spitting a bit downtown so I'm not surprised she's back to cover the kids up ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 09, 2013, 13:28
1 p.m. Dinner time! ;D  The chicks are looking good and strong, and got a good meal.

Short Video ~ http://youtu.be/42IMbpkXEcM

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rad2kid.jpg)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2013, 15:03
One of Princess' kids wants to see what the rain is like ... head is out from under Princess's wing (she is standing over them) but it looks like she is sitting on him/her ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 09, 2013, 15:13
One of Princess' kids wants to see what the rain is like ... head is out from under Princess's wing (she is standing over them) but it looks like she is sitting on him/her ...

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radchick.jpg)

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/giggle.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/emoticons.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 09, 2013, 15:41
RCF, I love your emoticons.  Where did you find them?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 09, 2013, 15:47
RCF, I love your emoticons.  Where did you find them?

I used a search engine for laughing smilies. (googled it)  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 09, 2013, 15:57
RCF, I love your emoticons.  Where did you find them?

I used a search engine for laughing smilies. (googled it)  :)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2013, 20:33
So meals today .. 1259h, 1425h and just a little while ago at 2002h.  The chicks are on their own at the moment, don't know where Ivy is but Princess is directly above the nestledge on the green slash in the Radisson sign ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2013, 21:03
2103h
Princess has left the sign to go off for/to something ...

2105h
Princess is back on the sign, same spot directly above the chicks ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 09, 2013, 21:09
2107h
Oh she's a mean mummy ... she sat up on that sign watching her chicks and I guess looking for Ivy.  He turns up with food and leaves it on the ledge, she immediately hops off the sign, picks up the food and then eats it in front of the kids then sits on them.  They will be glad for the "blanket" but at least one would have liked to have a little snack before bedtime.  Having said that, the kids have had 5-6 meals today so they are fine, but they are growing very fast and food is usually very welcome.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Friesens on June 10, 2013, 08:31
I really appreciate having these cams. It is so fascinating to watch these families  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 10, 2013, 09:52
These two are getting quite mobile now.  :)

Short video ~ http://youtu.be/rGgTuF8cgNg (http://youtu.be/rGgTuF8cgNg)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/RadK004.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/RadK003.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/RadK2.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/RadK22.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Moonstar on June 10, 2013, 10:03
RCF thanks so much for the photos and updates.  I can't view the camera or videos at work, so it is nice to see the photos.  The Radisson chicks have grown so much and now they are starting to stand and move.   :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 10, 2013, 10:11
Weather for today ...

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain, then rain in the afternoon. High of 22C. Winds from the South at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 70%.
Night - Clear with thunderstorms. Low of 12C. Winds from the West at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 60%.


Chronology has to wait for a bit I'm afraid, downloading from the Brandon cams is very slow (5 minute download = 25 minutes real time)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 10, 2013, 15:12
Thanks for moving the camera angle a wee bit, TPC. :-* Can view the Radisson chicks better now. They sure are growing in leaps & bounds and are attempting to waddle around the nest ledge a bit now. Sunbathing at the moment, however. ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 10, 2013, 15:19
Thanks for moving the camera angle a wee bit, TPC. :-* Can view the Radisson chicks better now. They sure are growing in leaps & bounds and are attempting to waddle around the nest ledge a bit now. Sunbathing at the moment, however. ;)

You are all welcome and they are doing very well for 9 days old ...
Can't see where Princess or Ivy are at the moment, had a spin around with the SpyCam but couldn't see anything in any of their usual or unusual spots.  No doubt they are around, just can't see them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 10, 2013, 15:46
Loving watching them when they are too tired to lie down AND don't have the strength to hold their heads  up  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 10, 2013, 15:48
There are some Tornado warnings for this aft - for just west of the city - oh boy.  :o - Hope all people and creatures stay safe!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 10, 2013, 16:18
Severe Thunderstorm Warning
updated by Environment Canada
at 4:02 PM CDT Monday 10 June 2013.
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Severe Thunderstorm Warning for:
=new= City of Winnipeg
=new= R.M. Of Headingley
=new= R.M. Of West St. Paul including Middlechurch and Riverside
=new= R.M. Of Rockwood including Stonewall and Stony Mountain
      R.M. Of Woodlands including Warren and Lake Francis.

Severe Thunderstorm Warning ended for:
      R.M. Of McCreary including McCreary and norgate
      R.M. Of Westbourne including Gladstone and Plumas
      riding mountain Nat. Park
      R.M. Of Gilbert Plains including Gilbert Plains and Ashville
      R.M. Of Lakeview including Langruth and Lakeland
      R.M. Of Glenella including Glenella
      R.M. Of Dauphin including Sifton and Valley River
      R.M. Of Portage la Prairie including St. Ambroise.

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==Discussion==
updated or ended by 6:00 PM CDT.

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Radar indicates a severe thunderstorm just northwest of the City of Winnipeg moving to the east.

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Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 10, 2013, 16:22
Oh Gosh  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2013, 16:28
Even though there are patches of blue sky, we have some thunder going on right now downtown.
Not the loud ones, the ones that rumble for minutes.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2013, 16:33
Rain and hail coming down right now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 10, 2013, 16:34
Lots of thunder and hail the size of peas coming straight down in Osborne Village (close to downtown)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2013, 16:35
It's really coming down, straight down so there's little wind out there.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 10, 2013, 16:35
Holy - Hang on & keep those babies safe Princess!  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2013, 16:38
Even harder now with wind from the north.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2013, 16:41
Slowing down now and believe it or not, there are patches of blue sky.
Looks like the worst is over.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2013, 16:44
And now Princess is not so tight down on them and one chick really wants out.

Sun is out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 10, 2013, 16:46
And it's warm . . humidex has gone up to 27c

Poor soggy Princess . . what a dedicated mom she is!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 10, 2013, 16:59
There's no wind to speak of, I'm only 5 blocks south of the ledge. No idea why the camera is shaking now and  then.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Feather2Fin on June 10, 2013, 17:12
My heart sank when I saw the size of the hail hitting our ledge. Princess is such a good Mom even though one of the chicks wanted his/her head out from under her. She scrunched him down to protect all, during the storm and after.

(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a570/Pam2506/peregrinesbeingHailedon_zps4507d1f6.jpg)

After the storm
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a570/Pam2506/afterthestorm_zpsbdd1b5e8.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 10, 2013, 17:35
I was west of the Radisson and no rain at all, great light show but no rain ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 10, 2013, 18:25
Whew! Glad the storm passed by quickly & there was no time for accumulation of water puddle on the nest ledge. :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 10, 2013, 18:26
And it may not be quite done yet ...

City of Winnipeg
6:15 PM CDT Monday 10 June 2013

Severe thunderstorm watch for City of Winnipeg continued

This is an alert to the potential development of severe thunderstorms with large hail and damaging winds.
Monitor weather conditions..listen for updated statements. If threatening weather approaches take immediate safety precautions.

An unstable airmass over Southern Manitoba is resulting in scattered thunderstorm development this evening. Large hail and torrential downpours are the primary threats from any storms, although there have been reports of funnel clouds and an isolated tornado is not out of the question.

The severe weather threat has now diminished in Western Manitoba, and will end later this evening in the Red River Valley and eastward.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: sami on June 10, 2013, 18:28
And not a thing going on all the while out here in Westwood!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bev. on June 10, 2013, 20:14
I am praying things are O.k. here. Chicks should be old enough now right.
We had this on weekend and
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 11, 2013, 01:32
I am praying things are O.k. here. Chicks should be old enough now right.
We had this on weekend and

Not quite old enough, just 9 days old and with a bad storm uncovered even a few days older would not be a good thing.  But looking at them just as the light was going down, they looked fine when Ivy left and Princess took over for the night.

Also, before Princess settled in, she went over to fiddle with egg - looks like she rolled it a bit and you can see there is hole in it now ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 11, 2013, 06:10
Ivy with the chicks (I think it's Ivy -can't see crown and the chicks don't fit that well).

Both chicks were visible about 5:45. May have been the end of breakfast.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 11, 2013, 06:57
Aprox 6:50am . . enjoying a sunny Winnipeg morning
 ;D ;D
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/20130611.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/20130611.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 11, 2013, 09:17
My cat & I watched a feeding of these 2 around 9:00 AM. Very full crops! :o They were top heavy after the feeding and could no longer stand up.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: SuzieQmb on June 11, 2013, 11:05
These poor little guys are just not going to get any shade this year......sure wish they were in the nest box!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 11, 2013, 15:00
These poor little guys are just not going to get any shade this year......sure wish they were in the nest box!

It's six of one, half-dozen of another - sunny in the morning on the ledge or sunny in the afternoon in the nestbox  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 11, 2013, 15:05
Couldn't get "on" earlier (have a call into our ISP to find out what's up) so I'm a bit late with these

Chronology:

Weather Forecast:  very nice day for peregrines - winds are away from the ledge and more sun, less cloud


Will try to keep the chicks within camera range but now that they are more active, we may soon need get a wider view ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: SuzieQmb on June 11, 2013, 15:08
These poor little guys are just not going to get any shade this year......sure wish they were in the nest box!

It's six of one, half-dozen of another - sunny in the morning on the ledge or sunny in the afternoon in the nestbox  :)

Yup - that's definitely true.  And I guess the morning sun usually isn't as intense as the afternoon.  But I just seem to remember them being able to hide along that back wall in the nestbox and pretty much be out of the sun.....

Princess was trying to get them both under her a little while ago - they were having none of it!!  Kinda fun to watch them squirm away....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 11, 2013, 15:21
Currently the best I can say about these chicks is...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 11, 2013, 16:40
Time for a cuddle.  :) 

http://youtu.be/-Njpucho6j4 (http://youtu.be/-Njpucho6j4)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radkids22.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 11, 2013, 17:24
Right now you can see the chicks are growing quickly out of their first set of downy feathers - compare them with the McKenzie Seeds chicks and they don't look so fluffy anymore ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 11, 2013, 19:11
1912h - meal time!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 11, 2013, 19:33
Doing some preening now, just like big kids! :o  Too fast this growing up is!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 11, 2013, 22:12
Kids have been alone alot today, now it's after 10pm and they're alone again. Unbelieveable how FAST they've grown!  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: soaring west on June 12, 2013, 10:31
They are so cute.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 12, 2013, 11:15
They sure are! :D ;D

Princess currently sheltering them from the wind and sun, so sweet!   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 12, 2013, 12:47
These two not-so-little tots need another meal any time now ... they are growing very fast!

0645h - first meal
0831h - second meal


Weather for today is great for chicks ...

Day - Clear in the morning, then overcast. High of 22C. Winds from the NNW at 5 to 15 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of rain in the evening, then clear. Low of 13C. Winds from the North at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 12, 2013, 13:40
Seems like they've doubled in size overnight. ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 12, 2013, 14:34
Afternoon snack . . .the way they eat, no wonder they look so much bigger than yesterday :)

(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/20130611228pm.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/20130611228pm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 12, 2013, 15:22
Meals in stereo - eats in Brandon and Winnipeg at the same time! Neat!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 12, 2013, 16:48
Dinner just arrived. I think it's Ivy.

They are so cute at this age - more interesting than eggs . . .yet not active enough to give us heart palpitations as they start doing acrobats up on the ledge of the nest.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 12, 2013, 17:05
Life at this age is so simple - 1 part eating, 1 part wide awake, 2 parts sound asleep  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bev. on June 12, 2013, 23:52
sometimes I wish it would stay simple ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 13, 2013, 07:32
7:30 a.m. and Breakie time!   ;D :D 8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 13, 2013, 09:22
Testing, Testing!!   ;D

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/testing002.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2013, 10:00
So far this morning  ...

pre-dawn - I think there was a meal before the light came up based on the chicks' behaviour
0724h - 1st meal on-camera

Princess with the chicks overnight and up to the 7am meal then Ivy kept the kids company for a couple of hours.  Wind earlier in the morning was quite breezy from the south and Princess was keeping the chicks pretty well covered.  Ivy can't do that now, they are just too big ...


Weather for Thursday ....

Day - Partly cloudy in the morning, then overcast. Fog early. High of 24C. Winds from the SE at 10 to 15 km/h.
Night - Mostly cloudy. Low of 15C. Winds from the SE at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2013, 10:01
New camera angle - kids were checking out Princess on the edge of the ledge so thought I would go wide while she is around ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 13, 2013, 10:33
Another meal is being eagerly gulped dowm.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 13, 2013, 10:47
New camera angle - kids were checking out Princess on the edge of the ledge so thought I would go wide while she is around ...

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radkidss002.jpg) (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radkidss.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 13, 2013, 17:48
Princess is tucked up on the chicks right now and on the west side cams the box is all sunny and warm with shady spots for any chick that was too warm...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 13, 2013, 20:14
At first neither chick was interested - but they quickly perked and both enjoyed an evening snack.

(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/20130613810pm.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/20130613810pm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 13, 2013, 20:17
Great capture of the full view of the nest RCF - It looks very spacious from that angle.

A post-snack chick pile now taking place.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: moka on June 13, 2013, 21:31
How they have grown! I've just been watching their cousins in Brandon. It's like comparing toddlers and babies.

TPC, have they been fed more because there are only two of them?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 14, 2013, 09:34
TPC, with rain forecast from today til Sunday are the chicks ready to be wet, a little or a lot at this point?  ??? Temps are .supposed to stay on the warm side at least.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 14, 2013, 15:18
Quick dinner/snack in the rain.

The Chicklets look hungry.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 14, 2013, 16:37
Wow is it ever breezy on that ledge!  

Now we see Princess in action as a windbreak, with the chicks corralled between the drain and wall, she is mostly broadside to the wind in front of them, and she certainly is getting her feathers ruffled.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 14, 2013, 16:48
Great capture of the full view of the nest RCF - It looks very spacious from that angle.

A post-snack chick pile now taking place.

I could be wrong Jo, but having seen this ledge from many angles here's my estimate.
Ledge attached to the building - 8 or 9 feet.
North and south ledges, about 5 feet each.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 14, 2013, 16:55
Wow is it ever breezy on that ledge! 

Now we see Princess in action as a windbreak, with the chicks cralleded between the drain and wall, she is mostly broadside to the wind in front of them, and she certainly is getting her feathers ruffled.



Must be a wind that is magnified by the tall buildings around the Radisson Bcbird.
I'm five  blocks south and just a slight breeze here.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 14, 2013, 17:14
Or maybe there's an issue with the mounting of the camera. I've never seen this in past years.
Maybe a screw loose??
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 14, 2013, 17:19
Wow, it's really bad now. But my plants are hardly moving. ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 14, 2013, 17:47
Or maybe there's an issue with the mounting of the camera. I've never seen this in past years.
Maybe a screw loose??

Nah, wish it was, we could fix it then.  It's that the street runs basically north/south so winds coming from the east (since the buildings to the east are lower) or from the south, get funnelled right past the cam and we get the shakes.  The camera is as close to the wall as we could put it to give it as much stability as possible, but there is only so much we can do ... (we can't actually put it right the wall otherwise it bangs and could be damaged in high winds) ...

(http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/image/97037190/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 14, 2013, 19:02
Bizarre, I'm in N.K. and I'm staring into the trees looking for anything that resembles a breeze, let alone wind.  I can see the occasional leaf ripple.  Small city and yet........
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 14, 2013, 19:23
Bizarre, I'm in N.K. and I'm staring into the trees looking for anything that resembles a breeze, let alone wind.  I can see the occasional leaf ripple.  Small city and yet........

I'm away from home and in the far west of the City and we have wind but its high - the tops of the big trees are moving much much more than lower down ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 14, 2013, 19:26
And just in the last two minutes a major wind has blown through my yard.  A little rain with it too.  Not a nice evening.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 14, 2013, 19:26
The second downy coat is starting to show on the chicks - at the moment they look like a much larger chickpile than the McKenzie Seeds chickpiles but they are looking more like their younger and fluffier cousins right now!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 14, 2013, 21:09
Bed time snack

(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/201306149pm.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/201306149pm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 15, 2013, 07:36
Chick pile. . . . aside from some adjustments, not much going on this past little while.

Camera is steady this sunny Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2013, 09:07
Chronology this morning ...

0430h - light came up and the chicks were already on their own
0632h - first meal
0831h - second meal
0854h - change in camera angle because chicks are wandering ....

Weather forecast ...

Day - Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain in the afternoon. High of 24C. Breezy. Winds from the SW at 15 to 20 km/h.
Night - Overcast with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain in the evening, then mostly cloudy. Low of 13C. Winds from the WSW at 5 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 30%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Feather2Fin on June 15, 2013, 09:15
As a "brooding" viewer of this annual miracle, I fret over the chicks as they move from one hurtle or possible danger to another: will the chicks hatch, will they stay warm and dry, and now will they stay inside the nest box until they are less wobbly, and soon will they wait until they have super strength wings before they decide to fledge, and then will they be able to feed themselves.  I say this today because the chicks are peeking over the edge.  
Be still my heart.   ::)  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2013, 10:53
There is still only one chick under Princess at the moment, the other chick is just out of camera range (below on your screens) s/he is parked on the concrete in the shade from the low wall around the edge of the ledge.  As the sun comes up and over the chicks will likely go back to Princess, but at the moment s/he is sprawled out on his/her belly totally in the shade.  Our first wanderer of the year ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 15, 2013, 12:19
Be still my heart.   ::)  :P
Too right Feather! - it's a rollercoaster of emotions, from excitement & happiness to worry & anxiety  :-X - it'll be a while before we stop fretting about them I guess, but for now they look to be doing great and these chicks have the best parents in town, it's wonderful to watch this family go about their daily business!!  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2013, 16:38
Kids are awake and up now.  The wind is definitely get up but still looks like it is mostly from behind the Hotel so the ledge is still protected.  Breeze is helping to cool it down a bit, particularly in the shade and the ledge at this time of the day is in the shade so the kids should have a pleasant time here now.  It's 24.6C at the U of W weather station right now and the winds are SW 30-35km/h with gusts (so far) up to 53.1km/h. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2013, 18:08
1806h
Princess and Ivy are parked on the Radisson sign above the nestledge - chicks are sprawled out asleep below them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 15, 2013, 18:40
Raining  >:( >:(  Princess can't cover them both.  :-\ How wet can they get at this point TPC?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 15, 2013, 19:05
1806h
Princess and Ivy are parked on the Radisson sign above the nestledge - chicks are sprawled out asleep below them.

I can see the ends but not sure where the starts are.    ??? ;D

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radkids23.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 15, 2013, 19:43
Not sure if the rain has passed by Winnipeg or if we are getting a last little look at the sun before the rain really arrives.  Radisson chicks took no harm from the little bit of rain that fell on them.  If the rain were to get heavy, Princess may not be able to cover them like she did when they were wee, but she can keep most of the rain off them and they can generate their own body heat which in conjunction with hers, would keep them warm until the rain stops. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 15, 2013, 20:29
The second downy coat is starting to show on the chicks - at the moment they look like a much larger chickpile than the McKenzie Seeds chickpiles but they are looking more like their younger and fluffier cousins right now!
They still have a few gaps in that fluffy second coat. 
They are posing for the camera beautifully right now in the pause between feeding and sleeping.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 15, 2013, 22:01
Be still my heart.   ::)  :P
Too right Feather! - it's a rollercoaster of emotions, from excitement & happiness to worry & anxiety  :-X ...

A lot like what we go through when raising our own kids! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 16, 2013, 07:52
Little Buddha  :)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rads005.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 16, 2013, 09:35
Hilarious :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 16, 2013, 10:09
Chronology for today ....

pre-dawn - must have had a meal or two because when Ivy came to check on them they didn't leap to their feed like they did with their next meal ...
0810h - meal off screen

Cam will be on the long-view most the time now folks I'm afraid so that we can keep the "kids" in view ....


Weather for today...

Currently - sunny, 19C, winds W/SW 10-15km/h with breezy gusts higher
Day - Partly cloudy with a chance of rain in the afternoon. High of 22C. Winds from the West at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 50%. 
Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain, then a chance of rain after midnight. Low of 10C. Winds from the North at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 70%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 16, 2013, 10:10
Why is Princess off to the side with her back to the chicks?  That seems strange ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 16, 2013, 10:27
Why is Princess off to the side with her back to the chicks?  That seems strange ???

She's there in case the chicks want to shelter under her ... at the moment they have found their own shade but she is making sure they will have other shade if they want it ... its instinct in the heat when the chicks are this age and a good idea on this nestledge. She may do this for another week or two ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 16, 2013, 10:56
Interesting.  I was away from the cam for a bit and now can't see the chicks, so maybe they are in fact in mum's shade :)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 16, 2013, 11:27
Interesting.  I was away from the cam for a bit and now can't see the chicks, so maybe they are in fact in mum's shade :) 

Nope, 'fraid not.  Little tots are next to the wall bottom right - unless they move all you can see is their tail feathers, off-white of downy feathers on off-white of concrete pad ... I suspect they will move though when the sun goes overhead and they lose the shadow from the wall ... that's assuming we have sun that long, there are clouds (big black clouds) heading in from the west-southwest ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 16, 2013, 11:58
So they've just had a feeding and they're hanging out - clouds are overhead so no sun to hide from.  At this angle, one of the not-so-wee chicks looks bigger than the other...one boy and one girl maybe?

They are so cute  :-* with their pudgy awkward bodies and big gawky feet...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 16, 2013, 13:21
Yup, the kiddies are about to enter the 'So Ugly They're Cute' stage  :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 16, 2013, 14:18
Afternoon snack
(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/201306162pm.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/201306162pm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 16, 2013, 14:46
Couldn't see the chicks at first, but there they are now - bottom corner along the edge of the ledge. When they're sleeping, they blend right in with the "poop-art". LOL! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jo on June 16, 2013, 14:57
They do a good job of blending in to their surroundings. Kinderchick, I didn't see them either when they were sleeping against the bottom of the nest ledge - I assumed that they had moved out of camera range till one of them moved.

(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/20130616245pm.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/20130616245pm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 16, 2013, 17:05
Oh dear, the chicks have gotten to that I feel brave enough to explore out of camera range age!   ::) :o ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: soaring west on June 16, 2013, 19:54
I know that they are in a different side of the building , but how much lower to the ground.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 16, 2013, 20:11
I know that they are in a different side of the building , but how much lower to the ground.

I think it is thirteen stories.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 16, 2013, 21:37
I know that they are in a different side of the building , but how much lower to the ground.

I think it is thirteen stories.  :)

The ledge is thirteen storeys from the ground and 17 storeys from the roof (and the nestbox)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 17, 2013, 09:29
Chronology for this morning ...

0557h - 1st meal then napping
0734h - 2nd meal then a wander and then down to the south corner to nap
- Princess came in with a huge meal and when Ivy landed on the edge of the ledge, she blocked him from "seeing" the chicks, literally moved so that her back was between him and the kids - this bird has a grudge this year ...

Weather for today ... should be a nice day and night on the ledge

Day - Mostly cloudy. High of 23C. Winds from the NNE at 5 to 10 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 11C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 17, 2013, 09:44
Note about the current camera angle: 

I've set the cam so that it is easy to scroll up/down the ledge without having to do lots of zooming or panning to cover most of the area.  Will see if this makes it easier to keep the chicks in sight and decent focus.  Small adjustments require zooming all the way "in" then zooming "out" to check and then repeating until you have close to what you want.  This level of zoom gives folks detail on the chicks and adults when they are in camera range but still covers large segments of the ledge.  Eventually we will have to zoom out more, but for the moment, this seems to give us the best of both ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 17, 2013, 10:44
Chicks are huddled against the ledge on the right hand side, in the little bit of shade there is from the ledge. Hard to see them at first. Looks as if there may be some left over "breakfast" in the bottom corner of the ledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: soaring west on June 17, 2013, 11:56
Looking for the chicks , is like looking for Waldo.  Love it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 17, 2013, 13:18
- Princess came in with a huge meal and when Ivy landed on the edge of the ledge, she blocked him from "seeing" the chicks, literally moved so that her back was between him and the kids - this bird has a grudge this year ...

It takes a Princess to have a grudge against Ivy.  It was her fault they lost a chick due to envrionamental conditions at her chosen nest site.
 
Why do you think Princess is giving Ivy a hard time?  Is she exhibiting instinctual over protectiveness.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 17, 2013, 14:22
- Princess came in with a huge meal and when Ivy landed on the edge of the ledge, she blocked him from "seeing" the chicks, literally moved so that her back was between him and the kids - this bird has a grudge this year ...

It takes a Princess to have a grudge against Ivy.  It was her fault they lost a chick due to envrionamental conditions at her chosen nest site.
 
Why do you think Princess is giving Ivy a hard time?  Is she exhibiting instinctual over protectiveness.

It could be over-protectiveness, Hurricane has been much more protective this year than I remember her being last year (but I could be wrong).  Jules is protective of the chicks but not when it comes to Beau, he gets to hang out with them at night though she is still with them 95% of the time.  Or heck, it could be that the weather is making her twitchy, she knows she lost a chick and wants to hedge her bets.  Or perhaps this is her behaviour on the nestledge, seems to me that she was much like this in 2009 with Trey.  Now Trey didn't have the driving urge to hang with the kids that Ivy seems to have.  Ivy's been a little distracted this year as well, he's been very busy defending the Radisson from Cowboy and Joli in particular, but maybe also from Pam's birds though I don't know if they have been seen recently.  Heck, it could be that she's getting crankier in her old age ...

Princess, long may she reign  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Pam on June 17, 2013, 20:00
I've been away, but my husband did see some Merlins w/young flying about - no peregrine falcons lately!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 17, 2013, 20:39

Princess, long may she reign  :-*

Princess is twitchy from weather and cranky from old age.

Hmmm.  I don't blame her! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 17, 2013, 20:52
- Princess came in with a huge meal and when Ivy landed on the edge of the ledge, she blocked him from "seeing" the chicks, literally moved so that her back was between him and the kids - this bird has a grudge this year ...

It takes a Princess to have a grudge against Ivy.  It was her fault they lost a chick due to envrionamental conditions at her chosen nest site.
 
Why do you think Princess is giving Ivy a hard time?  Is she exhibiting instinctual over protectiveness.

Hmmmmm, well, if we look at the geneology, it could be that mama is spanking sonny's bumbalino.
But given Princess's  disposition, she is just following her personality and is being a ....... ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 17, 2013, 20:55
We are starting to make plans for banding at the Radisson which because of the east side requires a little extra arranging.  Right now we are looking at early next week and yes, I will be sure to post a date and time when we have it nailed down.  And yes, the plan is to broadcast the banding live as per usual.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 17, 2013, 21:38
2140h
Radisson chicks are up then sprawled out asleep.  Might get one meal in before the light goes entirely but I suspect not given the size of their last meal!  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 18, 2013, 09:28
Chronology so far this morning

0706h - first meal
lots of scooting about and when one of the adults returned about an hour after breakfast one chick decided to go hang out with "parent"
kids are now hanging out in the shade behind the wall on the concrete section of the ledge


Weather for today

Day - Overcast in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 24C. Winds from the SSW at 5 to 15 km/h.
Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening, then clear. Low of 14C. Winds from the SSW at 10 to 15 km/h.

Hmmm, think someone forgot to tell the sun this morning he was "off-duty" ... Environment Canada & Weather Network say some clouds high 25-26C
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 18, 2013, 13:49
We are starting to make plans for banding at the Radisson which because of the east side requires a little extra arranging.  Right now we are looking at early next week and yes, I will be sure to post a date and time when we have it nailed down.  And yes, the plan is to broadcast the banding live as per usual.

I look forward to the banding, though it seems to me a scary task for you. O.K. I am going to ask, After banding, is it possible to place them into the West nestbox? Would Mom and Dad follow? Just curious.  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 18, 2013, 18:22
oooooh wouldn't that be nice! - somehow I think the answer will be 'No' though...with many good reasons of course!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2013, 10:39
We are starting to make plans for banding at the Radisson which because of the east side requires a little extra arranging.  Right now we are looking at early next week and yes, I will be sure to post a date and time when we have it nailed down.  And yes, the plan is to broadcast the banding live as per usual.

I look forward to the banding, though it seems to me a scary task for you. O.K. I am going to ask, After banding, is it possible to place them into the West nestbox? Would Mom and Dad follow? Just curious.  ::)

oooooh wouldn't that be nice! - somehow I think the answer will be 'No' though...with many good reasons of course!  ;)


We are still trying to work out some technical planning details but yes, we have been considering a move "upstairs" ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2013, 10:43
Chronology for this morning ...

0805h - breakfast
since then - hanging out in the shade ... kids against the outside wall (as per usual) Princess doing her best to keep a patch of gravel cool (as per usual) - hopefully she will stop doing this in the next couple of days when she realizes the kids aren't taking her up on her offer ... we'll see though ...

Weather for the day ...

Day - Clear in the morning, then partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. High of 28C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Clear in the evening, then partly cloudy with a chance of rain. Low of 15C. Winds from the East at 5 to 10 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.

Currently - 25C downtown, winds such that they aren't are < 5km/h from the west, so no wind on the nestledge
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 19, 2013, 10:57
 :) Thanks to all for considering a move to the Penthouse.  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 19, 2013, 11:07
Wow! - West Nest - Here's hoping!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2013, 11:38
Poor Princess (don't hear me saying that everyday!!)

Kid came over to her and she tried to tuck him/her under her and out of the sun but then kid crawled out and began begging halfheartedly for food.  Princess chased the kid around a bit trying to tuck under again and finally the little terror waddled its way back to its sibling against the wall and Princess is back to playing mumbrella to no-one.  Don't those kids understand what she has done for them!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 19, 2013, 12:20
 ??? Watching Ivy feed the chicks. Princess is spead into her mumbrella pose. I have never seen this before. She has been sprawled out for some time. TPC, has this happened in the past. Hope all is well.. This ledge needs a canopy.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2013, 13:02
??? Watching Ivy feed the chicks. Princess is spead into her mumbrella pose. I have never seen this before. She has been sprawled out for some time. TPC, has this happened in the past. Hope all is well.. This ledge needs a canopy.  :-\

No canopy - flying hazard remember?  ;) ;D

As for Princess' pose, it is a common pose for peregrines in the sun - you can see the chicks after they fledge doing it alot if you can see them from above.  Ivy has done it too but not for long and usually not as effectively.  She's using her wings to catch breezes and cool her breast.  In the nestbox she used to do it alot but she could keep her head out of the sun by sticking it under the roof.  She hates having her head inside because heat rises in the box but the sun wouldn't be beating on her head like it is now.  She's in protect my chicks from the sun mode but the chicks aren't cooperating - in the nestbox they mostly do cooperate until they are a bit older and spend more time in the outer part of the nestbox, that's when Princess (and Ivy) stopped doing that.  She needs to come to grips with the fact that the kids prefer the concrete and the wall to a mumbrella and gravel ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: GCG on June 19, 2013, 13:26
Yes. Now I remember, no canopy. for sure, I had a senior moment. Thank you for this info. What would I/we do without the knowledge we learn from the forum?  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 19, 2013, 13:55
We are still trying to work out some technical planning details but yes, we have been considering a move "upstairs

I'm wondering about this. The east side has more and better buildings to fledge to. And it is easier for the juvies to get back to the nest site as it is lower and requires less finesse. It has a larger landing space and the wind would not play as important factor.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 19, 2013, 14:04
This is all very fascinating. I'm very curious how/if this move upstairs plays out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Rose on June 19, 2013, 15:07
We are still trying to work out some technical planning details but yes, we have been considering a move "upstairs

I'm wondering about this. The east side has more and better buildings to fledge to. And it is easier for the juvies to get back to the nest site as it is lower and requires less finesse. It has a larger landing space and the wind would not play as important factor.

Has there ever been a fledge problem from this ledge?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 19, 2013, 15:41
Rose, I think height might be an issue.  They are currently only 13 stories high up, and most buildings surrounding the area are higher, and if they need to do short flights from one building to the next, I think height might be an advantage.  And thinking as a glider pilot, the thermals, (warm air lift) and updrafts for picking up a fledging bird might be better at the higher height.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 19, 2013, 15:46
Looks like our Radisson babies are starting to change to more adult plumage.  I see a lot of darker grey coming under that white fuzz.   :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Rose on June 19, 2013, 15:53
Rose, I think height might be an issue.  They are currently only 13 stories high up, and most buildings surrounding the area are higher, and if they need to do short flights from one building to the next, I think height might be and advantage.  And thinking as a glider pilot, the thermals, (warm air lift) and updrafts for picking up a fledging bird might be better at the higher height.
Just a little info here, the McKenzie chicks have fledged from a 9 story nest box to 4 and 5 story buildings with great success for the last 20 years and the last 2 years they had to fledge from 2 stories lower. The next day they can be found on the MTs tower and even on the Scotia towers which is 13 stories, they seem to manage this with no difficulty.
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Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2013, 17:43
It's not the height of the building they are leaping from it's the height of all the other buildings around them that can be problematic.  We have had birds nest much closer to the ground with nary a problem because all the buildings around are pretty much the same with the odd building or structure being higher.  In Brandon, McKenzie Seeds despite being much lower than the Radisson and lower even than the Radisson ledge is surrounded by lower buildings with the exception of the Scotia Bank building to the west.  In downtown Winnipeg, the only lower buildings are immediately across from the nestledge - getting from there to the much higher buildings has proved to be the problem.  And that is assuming the birds land close to the Radisson, the last few years, fledges from the west side have gone at least two blocks before going down, 2 blocks east from the Radisson is Portage & Main.  Unlike lower buildings or to a lesser degree, the tall buildings in downtown Winnipeg modify the wind patterns so winds are often stronger downtown than they are elsewhere in the City which for a young bird who has no idea how to fly is a problem.  We used to have a nestbox on the roof on the east side of the building but because of the number of fatalities and injuries during fledges, we removed that box.  The nest ledge has been used more often but it too has a similar record.

east side box

east side ledge
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2013, 17:52
The Radisson chicks look like they've just crawled through a mine field ...

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/150883119/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Rose on June 19, 2013, 18:30
Terrible record you posted for the east roof box and east ledge (post #300 I didn't want to quote the post because I didn't want to take up too much thread space!), I guess from that post we can take it that the fledges from the west roof box were all successful with no problems of chicks coming to ground or anything untoward happening to the chicks. Good plan to move them! Are you going to hack the West Winnipeg chicks again this Year because you said last year that they were hatched  in an unsafe place (worse than the east nest Ledge), maybe you could Hack the Radisson chicks from the same place as the West Winnipeg chicks were hacked last year and the parents of course being wild birds would get on with their lives just like Jules and Beau did last year. You said it was out in the country with no buildings or traffic to run into and a very safe place. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: allikat on June 19, 2013, 21:23
Guess all that can be done is watch and hope!  This is where fledge watchers are crucial in my opinion, if I was there, I would be doing it, especially on that East nestledge!  From Regina, all I can write is, "good luck" little ones! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 19, 2013, 21:48
I guess from that post we can take it that the fledges from the west roof box were all successful with no problems of chicks coming to ground or anything untoward happening to the chicks.

Oh lord, no, not all the fledges from the west side were successful, we just seem to have more problems on the east side.  And we've had more years nesting on the west side so a list will take me a bit longer  :)

Are you going to hack the West Winnipeg chicks again this Year because you said last year that they were hatched  in an unsafe place (worse than the east nest Ledge), maybe you could Hack the Radisson chicks from the same place as the West Winnipeg chicks were hacked last year and the parents of course being wild birds would get on with their lives just like Jules and Beau did last year. You said it was out in the country with no buildings or traffic to run into and a very safe place. :)

No we will not be hacking any chicks this year.  Last year we had an opportunity that will likely not occur again and we were able to take advantage of it.  Besides the point is to have a self-sustaining wild population of peregrines - that means that if we were to stop everything, they would still be able to live and reproduce without us.  And hacking doesn't make them any more successful, just makes us feel that we have "helped" them.  And we had the same loss rate with the "hacked" West Winnipeg chicks as we had for every other wild chick in the province - 2 out of 3 died before March.  Probably the same rate as for last year's Radisson chicks, McKenzie Seeds chicks and Selkirk chicks.  Probably the same rate as for this year's chicks too.  In fact, we have had more Radisson chicks survive to return and nest than we did from 14 years of hacking.  We had 8 hack birds in 14 years return to nest somewhere - we've had 6 from Princess and Trey alone, let alone the chicks from Pop & Maud, Pop & Madame, Mufasa & Phoebe, Madame & T-Rex, Trey & Princess, Holly & Zeus, Holly & Keener-Screech and now even Jules & Beau.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2013, 17:51
Severe Weather Bulletin
issued by Environment Canada
at 5:20 PM CDT Thursday 20 June 2013.
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Watches/warnings in effect for southern Manitoba...

Severe Thunderstorm Watch for:
=new= Killarney - Pilot Mound - Manitou
=new= Virden - Souris
      City of Winnipeg
      Steinbach - St. Adolphe - Dominion City - Vita - Richer
      Selkirk - Gimli - Stonewall - Woodlands - Eriksdale
      Dugald - Beausejour - Grand Beach
      Portage la Prairie - Headingley - Brunkild - Carman
      Morden - Winkler - Altona - Emerson - Morris
      Whiteshell - Lac Du Bonnet - Pinawa
      Sprague - Northwest Angle Provincial Forest
      Brandon - Carberry - Treherne
      Melita - Boissevain - Turtle Mountain Provincial Park.

      Severe thunderstorms possible tonight.

      This is an alert to the potential development of severe thunderstorms with large hail and damaging winds.

      Monitor weather conditions..listen for updated statements.  If threatening weather approaches take immediate safety precautions.

      If you would like to report severe weather, you can call 1-800-239-0484. Please note, this phone number is only for reporting severe weather.

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==Discussion==
a trough of low pressure tracking across southern Manitoba is expected to trigger thunderstorms this evening. Some of these thunderstorms have the potential to become severe giving large hail, damaging winds, heavy downpours and a slight risk of tornadoes.


Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details.

End
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2013, 19:01
1856h
Thunder rumbling to the west of the city along with a bit more wind and some rain ... is this a teaser or the start of the forecasted storm?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 20, 2013, 19:02
Could this be a boy and a girl?

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rads002.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rads.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 20, 2013, 19:39
Hard to tell how wet the chicks are getting now, but it's TEEMING in St James!  :( >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 20, 2013, 19:46
We are still trying to work out some technical planning details but yes, we have been considering a move "upstairs" ...

This sounds very interesting... Have there been any concerns with Ivy still needing to defend the Radisson west nestbox as of late, TPC? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2013, 19:52
Could this be a boy and a girl?

That was my prediction too RCF!   :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2013, 19:53
Hard to tell how wet the chicks are getting now, but it's TEEMING in St James!  :( >:(

Forecast said 19.8mm possible when last I looked ... brb ...

Sorry, 19.0mm possible - 1mm fell between 1950h and 1955h ...  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 20, 2013, 19:56
Tough little tikes! :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2013, 20:02
2.8mm fell between 1955h and 2000h at the U of Wpg ...

... but Princess is with them now ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 20, 2013, 20:09
2.8mm fell between 1955h and 2000h at the U of Wpg ...

... but Princess is with them now ...

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/rads005-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 20, 2013, 20:13
Looks like they're soaked  :( - luckily it's not cold out though! That should help!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2013, 20:13
...7.4mm of rain in the last 1/2 hour ... 1/3 of the way to forecasted possible total ...

Bally is right - 28.6C downtown right now ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Moonstar on June 20, 2013, 20:31
The poor little darlings look so wet and kind of scared.  At least Mom is with them.  I think it is her.  Brandon chicks are nice and dry under a cover.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 20, 2013, 20:36
The poor little darlings look so wet and kind of scared.  At least Mom is with them.  I think it is her.  Brandon chicks are nice and dry under a cover.

Yup, that's Princess - she's still bigger than her chicks, Ivy's closer to the chicks in size, maybe not when they are soaking wet but close ....

... rain has tapered off significantly out in West Winnipeg ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 20, 2013, 22:10
Rain looks to have stopped for now - hope it stays that way and tomorrow looks pretty good - kiddies don't look like happy campers right now to say the least!!  :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 21, 2013, 09:57
Rainfall yesterday ...

U of Wpg downtown = 9.7mm (that is what fell on the Radisson chicks)

Fortunately the hotel wasn't further west
  Winnipeg Airport = 16mm
  Charleswood = 69.1mm
  Fort Whyte Alive = 43.4mm

South was a bit better
  Dakota Park = 7.4mm
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 21, 2013, 10:05
Chronology this morning ...

pre-dawn - definitely had a meal because Princess came to hang out with them a couple of times between 0400h and 0600h and they didn't run to her begging for food
0623h - meal in the peak corner
1001h - both napping - larger (female?) in the peak, smaller (male?) against the wall at the edge of the concrete

have changed the camera angle to cover most of the roof, the chicks are wandering too much to leave zoomed in if I can't constantly monitor the cam

Weather forecast for today ...

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain. High of 27C. Winds from the East at 5 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 50%.
NIght - Overcast with a chance of rain, then a chance of a thunderstorm and rain after midnight. Low of 18C. Breezy. Winds from the NE at 10 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 21, 2013, 10:11
have changed the camera angle to cover most of the roof, the chicks are wandering too much to leave zoomed in if I can't constantly monitor the cam

It's nice to be able to see where both chicks are and also when a parent arrives.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 21, 2013, 10:14
have changed the camera angle to cover most of the roof, the chicks are wandering too much to leave zoomed in if I can't constantly monitor the cam

It's nice to be able to see where both chicks are and also when a parent arrives.  :)

And it helps that the sun isn't out as well, we don't have the heat radiating off the wall and giving us that heat mirage effect ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 21, 2013, 13:19
They sure seem lethargic today!! Have barely seen them move - maybe due to the humidity. Maybe due to being worn out from the evening's events!!  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 21, 2013, 15:26
They sure seem lethargic today!! Have barely seen them move - maybe due to the humidity. Maybe due to being worn out from the evening's events!!  ???

Or resting up in case we get more rain tonight ...  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 21, 2013, 20:19
One of the chicks tries to pull it's foot out from underneath the prey that mom set on top of it's foot and stood on it.  Meanwhile the chick keeps eating regardless......it finally gets free. Apparently the stomach is more important that the foot.  ;D

http://youtu.be/xG0h9x-zZrs (http://youtu.be/xG0h9x-zZrs)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Moonstar on June 22, 2013, 07:46
Well Winnipeg is dry right now but if we get what Brandon has the poor little ones are going to be quite wet.
Chickes are out of site right now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 22, 2013, 08:17
I've been out of town for the week, without being able to watch the webcam. :'(

Wow!  Have the chicklets ever grown!   :o   ;D :D

Adult plumage definitely starting at the wing tips.  Looks like they are big enough for banding.  Not much longer now, lil' ones.  :- ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Stormy on June 22, 2013, 10:40
Where are the chicks ??? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 22, 2013, 10:51
Where are the chicks ??? ???

I think they are in the bottom corner where you can't see them, there is probably shade there.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Stormy on June 22, 2013, 11:02
Thanks!  I thought they flew the coup  :o  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 22, 2013, 15:11
The chicks sure look like they must be feeling awfully warm, sprawled out there on the nest ledge this afternoon.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 22, 2013, 15:57
Chronology for today ....

0440h - meal & Princess hung out on the ledge until 0600h which chicks napped
0721h - Princess returned and chicks woke up to hang out with her
0802h - Ivy turned up with food, followed by Princess and then she took the meal and fed the chicks
chicks napping
1130h - chicks woke up and wandered a bit
1152h - Ivy brought in food - larger chick snatched away and didn't share with sibling
1329h - Ivy brought more food - both chicks tussled for food and smaller chick won (mostly) but had to share a bit
1429h - Princess feed food to the chicks


Weather for today & tonight ...

Day - Overcast with thunderstorms. High of 27C. Breezy. Winds from the SE at 10 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 5.3 mm possible.
Night - Overcast with thunderstorms. Low of 19C. Winds from the SSE at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 10.4 mm possible.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 22, 2013, 18:43
1844h
Meal time - Princess can't feed the greedy little wretches fast enough!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Jazzerkins on June 23, 2013, 07:54
Can't get the Radisson cam this morning.  It keeps saying "not available".  I can get the Brandon cam though.  Any ideas what the problem is?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 23, 2013, 09:09
Same here, no Radisson cam   :-\ - Kids are going to get wet from the sounds of the forecast - lots of rain today & tonight.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 10:28
I suspect that the server where the Radisson cam is being housed also has another/other high volume traffic - we've had this before and there has usually been another big event, like a hockey game or some such.  Perhaps Calgary flooding videos.  Last time it cleared up in a couple of hours.  The cameras on the Radisson are working find and you aren't missing anything, the chicks are sound asleep and have been for the last three hours.

And yes, I have an email into the CBC ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 10:34
Chronology this morning ....

0444h - first meal on-camera - only one chick was interested, so must have had a meal pre-dawn
0723h - second meal - this time both chicks were eating
napping against the back wall since second meal ... large white pile with some wing feather tips showing ...


Weather for today and tonight ...

Day - Overcast with thunderstorms. High of 22C. Breezy. Winds from the SSE at 10 to 30 km/h. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 10.2 mm possible.
Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain in the evening, then overcast. Low of 15C. Breezy. Winds from the SW at 10 to 25 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 10:47
1047h
Meal time - both chicks eating, Princess serving ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 11:59
1200h - chicks are in a pile snoozing - little twitches now and then but mostly just snoozing ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Stormy on June 23, 2013, 14:04
Thanks for the updates PC  :)

Hoping they're keeping out of trouble during this down pour :o ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 14:25
Nope, pouring rain on the ledge but the wind is from the NW so only getting wet not blown about as well ...

(http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/image/150948341/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 14:58
1456h - chicks soaking wet but hanging out together by the wall ... bit of water collecting in the spot with the concrete (where they like to hang out in the shade) but not enough to get the chicks' toes wet or close enough to make them think they will move onto a higher spot.  Both are just sitting there soaking wet with their eyes closed - like their mother did when it was raining on her three weeks ago just after their late sibling hatched.  Got the best of their mother's genes it looks like ...  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 17:26
1727h - chicks have moved up further on the gravel (closer to where they hatched) and are sound asleep in a pile together.  They are drying out nicely - not completely dry yet, but getting there.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 23, 2013, 17:31
It seemed like it was clearing up, here in the south end of the city, but it's darkened up again and just now started raining again :P

So the little dry kids might be getting wet again if this rain is hitting downtown :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 23, 2013, 18:05
Got the best of their mother's genes it looks like ...  ;)

Thanks for giving us that visual, TPC.  
These two have a very strong mother, indeed.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 23, 2013, 19:07
1907h - kids are still together and still a bit damp ... Mom and Dad haven't come in to keep them warm, so they must know something we don't.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: allikat on June 23, 2013, 19:12
1907h - kids are still together and still a bit damp ... Mom and Dad haven't come in to keep them warm, so they must know something we don't.
Yup...they are officially teenagers.  Look after yourselves, and pay rent, this food isn't cheap!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 23, 2013, 20:10
Glad to hear the chicks are okay, inspite of the frequent downpours we have had here in Winnipeg today.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 24, 2013, 09:35
Chronology this morning ...

none, little terrors moved out of camera range - angle has changed, they are napping in one of their usual places


Weather forecast for today/tonight ...

Day - Clear. High of 27C. Breezy. Winds from the WSW at 15 to 20 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 16C. Winds less than 5 km/h.

short and sweet and pretty nice for the birds once the sun gets behind the Hotel, could be a little warm before then though ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 24, 2013, 11:02
Nice to see the chicks again, basking in the sun. :D Can just see either Princess or Ivy's tail feathers.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 24, 2013, 21:43
2145h
Don't know where Princess is but Ivy's on the nestbox edge and the chicks are sprawled out on their bellies in the middle of the nestledge against the wall ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 24, 2013, 22:11
Are you still making plans to band the Radisson chicks this week, TPC? ??? Weather forecast for the rest of the week doesn't look/sound very good. Possible showers till the weekend. :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 25, 2013, 11:08
Chronology for this morning ....

because we are pulled back the lights downtown let us see more all night ..

whew!

Weather forecast ...

Day - Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain in the afternoon. High of 30C. Winds less than 5 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.
Night - Overcast with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain after midnight. Low of 18C. Winds from the NE at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 25, 2013, 11:55
Sunny morning nap time continuing in the corner for the chicks, with Radisson on the ledge with them.

With the pulled out view, we can now see that this year's weed drop is coming along as usual.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 25, 2013, 14:03
Are you still making plans to band the Radisson chicks this week, TPC? ??? Weather forecast for the rest of the week doesn't look/sound very good. Possible showers till the weekend. :(

We've been working with a great company here in the City to get to the chicks but the delivery of some equipment has been delayed from the US, so it is entirely possible that we will not be banding the Radisson chicks this year.  There is a minimum age to band the chicks and a point at which we don't want to risk the chicks attempting to escape when we retrieve them.  Normally we aim for the minimum age so we reduce risk to the chicks as much as possible.  If we don't in fact band the chicks now, if they go down during fledging we'll band them then.  If they fledge without incident then they will remain unbanded and if they survive to next year, they'll be anonymous unbanded birds wherever they end up.

More news as we have it ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 25, 2013, 14:40
We've been working with a great company here in the City to get to the chicks but the delivery of some equipment has been delayed from the US, so it is entirely possible that we will not be banding the Radisson chicks this year.  There is a minimum age to band the chicks and a point at which we don't want to risk the chicks attempting to escape when we retrieve them.  Normally we aim for the minimum age so we reduce risk to the chicks as much as possible.  If we don't in fact band the chicks now, if they go down during fledging we'll band them then.  If they fledge without incident then they will remain unbanded and if they survive to next year, they'll be anonymous unbanded birds wherever they end up.
More news as we have it ...

C'est la vie
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 25, 2013, 21:16
Looks like we may well be sharing Brandon's weather soon enough ...

Severe Weather Bulletin issued by Environment Canada
at 8:38 PM CDT Tuesday 25 June 2013.


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Watches/warnings in effect for southern Manitoba...

Severe Thunderstorm Watch for:
=new= City of Winnipeg
=new= Selkirk - Gimli - Stonewall - Woodlands - Eriksdale
=new= Dugald - Beausejour - Grand Beach
=new= Bissett - Nopiming Provincial Park - Pine Falls
=new= Whiteshell - Lac Du Bonnet - Pinawa
=new= Sprague - Northwest Angle Provincial Forest
=new= Arborg - Hecla - Fisher River - Gypsumville - Ashern
      Steinbach - St. Adolphe - Dominion City - Vita - Richer
      Portage la Prairie - Headingley - Brunkild - Carman
      Morden - Winkler - Altona - Emerson - Morris
      Brandon - Carberry - Treherne
      Dauphin - Roblin - Winnipegosis
      Minnedosa - Neepawa - Russell - Riding Mountain National Park
      Killarney - Pilot Mound - Manitou
      Melita - Boissevain - Turtle Mountain Provincial Park
      Virden - Souris
      Ste. Rose - Mccreary - Alonsa - Gladstone
      Swan River - Duck Mountain - Porcupine Provincial Forest.

      Severe thunderstorms possible tonight.

      This is an alert to the potential development of severe thunderstorms with large hail damaging winds and heavy downpours.

      Monitor weather conditions..listen for updated statements. If threatening weather approaches take immediate safety precautions.

      If you would like to report severe weather, you can call 1-800-239-0484.  Please note, this phone number is only for reporting severe weather.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
==Discussion==

An area of strong to severe thunderstorms has developed over southwest Manitoba and is pushing eastward this evening. Thunderstorms are expected to track across southern Manitoba through tonight.  The main threats will be damaging wind gusts to 100 km/h, large hail, and very heavy rainfall amounts of 50 to 100 mm.

Please refer to the latest public forecasts for further details.

End
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 25, 2013, 21:40
Quote
We've been waiting for some equipment to arrive so that we can retrieve the chicks from the nestledge in order to band them and relocate them to the nestbox.  

What kind of equipment are you waiting for?   Are you not using the same company that you used the last time you had to go up to the east ledge?  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 25, 2013, 22:01
Quote
We've been waiting for some equipment to arrive so that we can retrieve the chicks from the nestledge in order to band them and relocate them to the nestbox. 

What kind of equipment are you waiting for?   Are you not using the same company that you used the last time you had to up to the east ledge?  ???

We are waiting for the lines/ropes - they are a special order from the US and it was thought they would arrive last week but well, that's why it's called Murphy's Law.  Mostly we can over-engineer our plans just in case Murphy decides to participate, but sometimes it's just not enough.  In thirty years, we've only had 4 other chicks we couldn't band - all were because we couldn't access the nests safely.  We did band chicks from each of these nests however when they were grounded after fledging so though I would prefer the Radisson chicks fledge without incident, if they do go down and are re-releaseable (not a guarantee) then we'll band them then.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 25, 2013, 22:04
Murphy is not my friend either!!    :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Moonstar on June 25, 2013, 22:07
If they don't get banded then I guess they won't be named. 
Hopefully you get to band them. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 25, 2013, 22:16
Lots to consider when banding the chicks, especially where safety is concerned - the safety of the humans involved with the banding & the safety of the chicks. Here's hoping the equipment you require arrives in time and the weather cooperates, TPC. Sounds as if "Jupiter needs to align with Mars" to make the banding of the Radisson chicks a possibility this year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 25, 2013, 23:02
It looks like it's lightening at the Radisson.   :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 25, 2013, 23:22
It looks like it's lightening at the Radisson.   :-\

The winds have come up suddenly and thought I could hear thunder rumbling in the distance a while back.  Checked the inside box cam and might have been lightning but couldn't be sure.  The skycam showed flickers of light, but they almost seemed too regular to be lightning - spycam only showed street/vehicle lighting. 

Winds are from the west which I can confirm as the skycam is shaky at the moment.  Ledge cam is stable and out of the wind, just like the chicks on the ledge.  If we do get rain and the winds stay as they are (from the west) the chicks should be protected from most of the storm.  The chicks are awake at the moment doing a bit of tussling to figure out who gets to sleep on who.

One of the adults is on the green slash under the Radisson sign = I'm pretty sure it's Princess, it's "her" spot on the sign ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: ballywing on June 25, 2013, 23:34
Looks like the kids are being poured on - again -  :-\  Thunder, Lightening, lots of rain - no Mom or Dad in sight on the cam. The chicks must be getting used to this!!  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 26, 2013, 10:12
Chronology for this morning



Weather forecast ... ick ...

Day - Overcast with thunderstorms. High of 27C. Breezy. Winds from the SW at 10 to 25 km/h shifting to the WNW in the afternoon. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 7.1 mm possible.
Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain in the evening, then clear. Low of 17C. Winds from the West at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 26, 2013, 10:16
Whew!!! So good to see the chicks enjoying a feeding this morning! That was quite the storm last night & I was concerned that the chicks might not survive, without any overhead cover. Glad to see they continue to survive & thrive! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 26, 2013, 11:32
Princess has been hanging out on the Point for the last little while - the kids have been napping and watching the world
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 26, 2013, 17:17
Hey look, just like yesterday  ::)  (I'm abbreviating these now ...)

Severe Weather Bulletin issued by Environment Canada
at 4:58 PM CDT Wednesday 26 June 2013.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Watches/warnings in effect for southern Manitoba...
Severe Thunderstorm Watch for:
  City of Winnipeg
  Brandon

Severe thunderstorms possible this evening.
This is an alert to the potential development of severe thunderstorms with large hail and damaging winds.
Monitor weather conditions..listen for updated statements. If threatening weather approaches take immediate safety precautions.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Warm, moist air in combination with a trough of low pressure are producing thunderstorms in southern Manitoba. Some of these thunderstorms may become severe.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 26, 2013, 17:24
The two chicks were fed around 3:30pm.  :)  They sure are growing fast.

http://youtu.be/OUnmvrkkGec (http://youtu.be/OUnmvrkkGec)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 26, 2013, 19:17
They sure do look to be eyeing the ledge. Won't be long, I'm sure, till they hop on up.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Friesens on June 26, 2013, 19:23
if you move them to the other nest will the parents still be okay with that?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: wpgfan on June 26, 2013, 19:32
I am sure I am not alone on this but I have to say it anyway... I have been watching these beautiful animals thanks to TPC and CBC. I have been watching for the last few years and without fail I spend more time and energy on anxiety over these babies and babies of past. When they first get around to being close to fledging I never really want to see them go  :'( but am totally excited when they succeed. Hats off to you TPC for staying so collected and calm(or you appear to be)..lol. Thank You for this wonderful opportunity again.  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 26, 2013, 19:55
7:50pm
Looks like the larger chck tried to get up on the ledge.  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: wpgfan on June 26, 2013, 20:10
wish that one would get out of the corner, can't see them there >:(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: wpgfan on June 26, 2013, 20:11
must have read my note..lol  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bcbird on June 26, 2013, 20:12
Hi wpgfan,

Well said on the emotional ups and downs of watching these cams.

Definitely you are not alone!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: wpgfan on June 26, 2013, 20:19
Thank You bcbird  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 26, 2013, 20:21
Showing off

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/wings005.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 26, 2013, 21:50
Quote
We've been waiting for some equipment to arrive so that we can retrieve the chicks from the nestledge in order to band them and relocate them to the nestbox. 

What kind of equipment are you waiting for?   Are you not using the same company that you used the last time you had to up to the east ledge?  ???

We are waiting for the lines/ropes - they are a special order from the US and it was thought they would arrive last week but well, that's why it's called Murphy's Law.  Mostly we can over-engineer our plans just in case Murphy decides to participate, but sometimes it's just not enough.  In thirty years, we've only had 4 other chicks we couldn't band - all were because we couldn't access the nests safely.  We did band chicks from each of these nests however when they were grounded after fledging so though I would prefer the Radisson chicks fledge without incident, if they do go down and are re-releaseable (not a guarantee) then we'll band them then.

Correct  me if I'm wrong please, was a swing stage, like the one used in 2009 not considered? I know that it is expensive, but I'm sure that donations would have flooded it if that were the case
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: bccs on June 26, 2013, 21:55
Nice thing about the chicks not being banded  ------   NO TRANSMITTERS   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: allikat on June 27, 2013, 00:28
Quote
We've been waiting for some equipment to arrive so that we can retrieve the chicks from the nestledge in order to band them and relocate them to the nestbox. 

What kind of equipment are you waiting for?   Are you not using the same company that you used the last time you had to up to the east ledge?  ???

We are waiting for the lines/ropes - they are a special order from the US and it was thought they would arrive last week but well, that's why it's called Murphy's Law.  Mostly we can over-engineer our plans just in case Murphy decides to participate, but sometimes it's just not enough.  In thirty years, we've only had 4 other chicks we couldn't band - all were because we couldn't access the nests safely.  We did band chicks from each of these nests however when they were grounded after fledging so though I would prefer the Radisson chicks fledge without incident, if they do go down and are re-releaseable (not a guarantee) then we'll band them then.
Maybe a whole group of falcon phanatics could get a big tall ladder, get to the top, then stand on each other's shoulders to throw you, and Bob the bander up to the ledge to do your business...?  Too bad a fire truck ladder couldn't reach that high...at least that wouldn't be a huge cost?!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 27, 2013, 00:33
Nice thing about the chicks not being banded  ------   NO TRANSMITTERS   ;D  

Not an issue actually.  Because they were going to be moved to the nestbox they were going to be excluded from the transmitter project as we can't retrieve them safely when they are old enough to have a transmitter fitted.  Downside is that not only can't they be tracked for the first couple of years by satellite, but we won't be able to track them at all without band numbers.  

Having said that, if they are grounded after fledging and if they are re-releaseable, they will get bands and they will become candidates for a transmitter.  We tend to have more groundings from the ledge than from the nestbox but still we'll just have to see.  I'd prefer a boring fledgewatch with no groundings, but a soft, injury-free grounding even if it means being re-released with legbands and perhaps a transmitter runs a close second.  I'm afraid I don't look forward to fledges from the ledge anymore.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 27, 2013, 00:36
Maybe a whole group of falcon phanatics could get a big tall ladder, get to the top, then stand on each other's shoulders to throw you, and Bob the bander up to the ledge to do your business...?  Too bad a fire truck ladder couldn't reach that high...at least that wouldn't be a huge cost?! 

At one time Allikat there was a truck that could get us that high, it was an odd experience, well, odder than going up the lift which has its own oddness to it.  But unfortunately, it isn't available anymore. 

And I'm hoping to keep Bob happy banding peregrines for a few years to come so no "tossing" Dr Bob anywhere!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 27, 2013, 07:27
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radson004.jpg) (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radson005.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 27, 2013, 10:05
Do you have any kind of a "guestimate" as to when either of these 2 chicks might fledge, TPC? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 27, 2013, 11:39
Chronology for this morning ...



Weather for today/tonight ...

Day - Partly cloudy in the morning, then overcast with a chance of rain. High of 24C. Windy. Winds from the WNW at 20 to 30 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.
Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of rain. Low of 15C. Breezy. Winds from the NW at 15 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 60%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 27, 2013, 11:42
Do you have any kind of a "guestimate" as to when either of these 2 chicks might fledge, TPC? ???

earliest = 10 days
hopefully = 14+ days
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: irenekl on June 27, 2013, 14:04
I'd really like to help out with the fledgewatch, keep me in mind!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: allikat on June 27, 2013, 19:54
Maybe a whole group of falcon phanatics could get a big tall ladder, get to the top, then stand on each other's shoulders to throw you, and Bob the bander up to the ledge to do your business...?  Too bad a fire truck ladder couldn't reach that high...at least that wouldn't be a huge cost?! 

At one time Allikat there was a truck that could get us that high, it was an odd experience, well, odder than going up the lift which has its own oddness to it.  But unfortunately, it isn't available anymore. 

And I'm hoping to keep Bob happy banding peregrines for a few years to come so no "tossing" Dr Bob anywhere!!!  ;)
You sure?!  Just need a little muscle to make it happen... ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 27, 2013, 19:55
No tossing Dr Bob!!!  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: allikat on June 27, 2013, 20:03
Nice thing about the chicks not being banded  ------   NO TRANSMITTERS   ;D  

Not an issue actually.  Because they were going to be moved to the nestbox they were going to be excluded from the transmitter project as we can't retrieve them safely when they are old enough to have a transmitter fitted.  Downside is that not only can't they be tracked for the first couple of years by satellite, but we won't be able to track them at all without band numbers.  

Having said that, if they are grounded after fledging and if they are re-releaseable, they will get bands and they will become candidates for a transmitter.  We tend to have more groundings from the ledge than from the nestbox but still we'll just have to see.  I'd prefer a boring fledgewatch with no groundings, but a soft, injury-free grounding even if it means being re-released with legbands and perhaps a transmitter runs a close second.  I'm afraid I don't look forward to fledges from the ledge anymore.  :-\

Guess this is, what is called a, "darned if you do, darned if you don't", scenario. 
Bands are crucial to track these precious raptors, and it's a guessing game to find out, if, when, and where they may show up, with whom, and add to the family.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: RCF on June 27, 2013, 20:12
There certainly seems to be quite a few unbanded peregrines around, at least from some of the web cams I have been watching. So banded or unbanded they seem to be doing well.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 27, 2013, 21:42
There certainly seems to be quite a few unbanded peregrines around, at least from some of the web cams I have been watching. So banded or unbanded they seem to be doing well.  ;) 

One of the advantages of having banded birds is that you can more easily notice if you may need to worry about genetic bottlenecks - for example, if all the peregrines in Manitoba this year were all Radisson (or Brandon) offspring, then the Manitoba population could be facing serious problems.  It would be more of a concern perhaps if it were earlier in the program and there were fewer birds out there.  After 30 years there are probably enough birds around that the anatum population in Canada and the US are fine and will be fine.  By trying hard to make sure all our birds are banded, it makes the chances that an unbanded bird nesting somewhere in Manitoba is a Manitoba bird or a close relative less.  Basically if we know who are birds are then any other birds aren't ours ...

But yes, so far this year we aren't doing too badly you are right ...  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2013, 10:34
Chronology for this morning ...



Weather forecast for today & tonight ...

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain in the morning, then mostly cloudy. Fog early. High of 24C. Winds from the NNW at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.
Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 13C. Winds from the North at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2013, 10:34
Looking at feather development, it looks to me like we do in fact have 1 male and 1 female chick.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: Kinderchick on June 28, 2013, 17:48
Looking at feather development, it looks to me like we do in fact have 1 male and 1 female chick.
Not quite sure what you mean by this, TPC. Does one gender's feathers develop faster or differently than the other? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 28, 2013, 22:29
Looking at feather development, it looks to me like we do in fact have 1 male and 1 female chick.
Not quite sure what you mean by this, TPC. Does one gender's feathers develop faster or differently than the other? ???

Male chicks are smaller so their feathers develop and grow in faster.  When you have female and male chicks in the same nest, the flight feathers on the males will grow through the white downy feathers faster.  If you look at the two Radisson chicks, one chick has more flight feathers showing, the other more white down still visible.  Usually by this age, it's a pretty good indication of their gender but without actually having them in my hands, its just what it looks like from a distance.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: newchick on June 29, 2013, 07:17
Stormy, they are playing "Where's Waldo".  They are hard to spot in the corner of the building in amoungst all the "poop" art, or white puddle.  But, they are there if you look close.  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on June 29, 2013, 08:06
Weather for today/tonight ...

Day - Partly cloudy in the morning, then overcast. High of 26C. Winds from the NNW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Night - Overcast in the evening, then clear. Low of 12C. Winds from the North at 10 to 15 km/h.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / June
Post by: susha on June 30, 2013, 11:40
Another hot and sunny day.  Just watched a parent feeding RG (Radisson girl ???) who is proving to be chip off the old block - pushy and greedy with her mom/dad (couldn't tell).  RB ( :-\) just stayed in the shade, away from the fray...

Parent is now sitting against the wall, available for shading duties if required... ::)
Title: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 01, 2013, 07:46
Looks like one of the chicks, by the looks of it the male, has found that the drain cover is a good place to perch and preen.  :)

Getting down to take a nap ~ http://youtu.be/L1D3gKXx-XI (http://youtu.be/L1D3gKXx-XI)

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/cat005.jpg)
Title: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: msdolittle on July 01, 2013, 10:39
I guess we knew it was going to happen.  Next the little buggers will be sitting on the ledge.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 01, 2013, 13:12
Everyone trying to stay cool!

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/hot0022.jpg)
Title: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Moonstar on July 01, 2013, 17:46
There they are peeping over the ledge.  I can't believe how much they have grown.  I have not seen them since last Thursday. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 01, 2013, 22:12
It must have been dreadfully hot for the chicks up there on the nest ledge today. :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bccs on July 01, 2013, 23:07
Fireworks going off at the Forks right now. The Radisson birdies will have a great view. But I doubt they will appreciate it. ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 01, 2013, 23:12
Fireworks going off at the Forks right now. The Radisson birdies will have a great view. But I doubt they will appreciate it. ::)

I just watched ours here in Rapid City and I know my dog doesn't appreciate it, he doesn't like thunder either......poor doggie!   :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bccs on July 01, 2013, 23:16
Fire works still going on, 15 minutes plus.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 02, 2013, 10:16
Chicks sure are hard to spot this morning. They're trying to lay in the wee bit of shade against the right ledge at the moment. It's going to be another scorcher here in Winnipeg today!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 02, 2013, 10:22
Chronology for this morning ...



Looks like it will be a toasty day today folks ...

Day - Clear in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 30C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then clear with a chance of rain. Low of 19C. Winds less than 5 km/h. Chance of rain 30%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 02, 2013, 11:01
Interestingly, both the adults have returned to the nestledge and have been in the "mumbrella" sunshade posture we have seen them use before.  Just never seen both of the adults do it at the same time at the same place.  The chicks are parked in the shade by the front edge of the ledge.

Interestingly, Brooklyn is doing the same thing in the nestbox at McKenzie Seeds ... maybe he's there alone because he can fit with all the chicks, not sure you could get both Hurricane and Brooklyn and their three exceeding healthy and robust chicks in that nestbox right now ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 02, 2013, 11:21
I found that interesting too that both adults were at the nestledge.  Hadn't seen that before.  You think they'd go for some trees.  Are they concerned about the chicks overheating and that's why they hang around?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 02, 2013, 11:27
I found that interesting too that both adults were at the nestledge.  Hadn't seen that before.  You think they'd go for some trees.  Are they concerned about the chicks overheating and that's why they hang around?

Considering the adults just need to go to the other side of the building to get out of the sun, my assumption is that they are on the ledge because they want to protect the chicks.  We've seen this behaviour with Princess before certainly, even from Ivy from time to time - he does it more in the nestbox, she does it more here on the ledge.  And once the sun passes overhead, she'll stop, so it would seem that this assumption isn't unreasonable based on the behaviour we are seeing.

No trees though, the west-side sign or even the nestbox edge would be great places to stay cooler - and often the box edge is exactly where we can find Ivy in the mornings ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: soaring west on July 02, 2013, 14:33
I have a question. 2.30 in the afternoon the street below looks different. I have googled it. But can`t see what makes this shadow? They sure have GROWN.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 02, 2013, 15:11
I have a question. 2.30 in the afternoon the street below looks different. I have googled it. But can`t see what makes this shadow? They sure have GROWN.

Maybe it's a shadow from a glass building........just a guess.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 02, 2013, 15:15
I have a question. 2.30 in the afternoon the street below looks different. I have googled it. But can`t see what makes this shadow? They sure have GROWN.

Maybe it's a shadow from a glass building........just a guess.  :-\

It is the sunlight hitting the west side of the Kensington Building which is all tinted glass, makes a very good design on the road ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 02, 2013, 16:42
Looks like one chick on the drain cover.  You can only see part of the bird, but I think it was wingersizing up there.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 02, 2013, 18:17
Interestingly, both the adults have returned to the nestledge and have been in the "mumbrella" sunshade posture we have seen them use before.  Just never seen both of the adults do it at the same time at the same place.  The chicks are parked in the shade by the front edge of the ledge...

I noticed this as well this morning and wondered if it was an unusual occurance. I had never seen both adults do this at the same time, either. I heard on the news not long ago that men doing roofing work today had to take frequent "ground" breaks because it was well over 40 degrees up there on the roofs. So it's no wonder these 2 adults tried to protect their young from the scorching heat up there on their "roof". Such great parents, Princess & Ivy are! :)

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: MayShowers on July 02, 2013, 19:19
This is probably a silly question, but would there be a chance of a parent overheating while being a mumbrella?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 02, 2013, 22:30
This is probably a silly question, but would there be a chance of a parent overheating while being a mumbrella?

Not a silly question at all -the answer is yes technically but it would be like staying on chicks in the rain -parent would stay only so long as their life isn't at risk - hard-wiring for self-preservation should kick in before they are at real risk.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: MayShowers on July 03, 2013, 05:46
Thank you TPC!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 03, 2013, 10:54
Chronology this am



Weather for today & tonight - another 'baker I'm afraid folks

Day - Clear. High of 31C. Breezy. Winds from the SSW at 10 to 20 km/h.
Night - Clear in the evening, then overcast. Low of 21C. Breezy. Winds from the South at 15 to 20 km/h.[/list]
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 03, 2013, 15:16
Heart Pounding Moment on the ledge!!!  That little bugger just did it again, jumped up right at the tip in the centre.  He didn't last long, jumped off and ran over and jumped on the drain cover.  Man I hate that!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 03, 2013, 15:50
Heart Pounding Moment on the ledge!!!  That little bugger just did it again, jumped up right at the tip in the centre.  He didn't last long, jumped off and ran over and jumped on the drain cover.  Man I hate that!!

That's how the little terror figured out how to get up on the drain cover too !!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 03, 2013, 19:10
Little Big Miss was doing some flapping and getting up on the ledge. First on one side of the ledge and then the other......only briefly though.  ;D

http://youtu.be/NOoK6bQrVsw (http://youtu.be/NOoK6bQrVsw)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 03, 2013, 19:16
Little Mr. was also doing some wingersizing.  :)  Could also be lessons on how to clean the nest ledge.  ;D

http://youtu.be/2j5I_h5Z1OI (http://youtu.be/2j5I_h5Z1OI)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: msdolittle on July 03, 2013, 19:50
I'm tired just watching the little bugger flapping his wings.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bccs on July 03, 2013, 20:08
I'm tired just watching the little bugger flapping his wings.

I can't help but think of 2009 when Tupper, Ty and Vesper were doing the same thing that these two are now doing.
Usually Vesper would chase the boys off of the drain cover and reign supreme. The best thing about the cover is that is has lots of places where the kids can get a great grip. They just wrap their talons around these and they can flap and exercise to their heart's content without fear of an unexpected fledge.

I'm looking forward to fledge watch, even though it means getting up really early.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 03, 2013, 20:15
BCCS I remember that about Vesper!! She was such a boss.  It always felt better when they wingersized from the drain cover.  That's a good memory of our sweet departed Vesper. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 04, 2013, 10:52
Holy moly! Is that a chick perched on the grate right now?! Sure looks like one of the adults. If it's a chick, I can hardly believe my eyes. :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 04, 2013, 11:02
Chronology for this morning ...



Weather for today

Day - Overcast in the morning, then mostly cloudy. High of 30C. Breezy. Winds from the SSW at 10 to 20 km/h.
Night - Overcast with thunderstorms in the evening, then mostly cloudy. Low of 18C. Winds less than 5 km/h. Chance of rain 60%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 04, 2013, 11:03
Holy moly! Is that a chick perched on the grate right now?! Sure looks like one of the adults. If it's a chick, I can hardly believe my eyes. :o

It is one of the adults - the chicks are together in the shade along the front wall ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 04, 2013, 11:17
For those wanting the count ...

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jo on July 04, 2013, 17:58
Both chicks are up and enjoying the view. I think it's the male who is on top of the grate (less white fluff left)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 04, 2013, 19:32
Lots of flapping, then mom brings a snack.  The male steals it from mom but loses it to his big sister, she ends up sharing with him.   ;D

http://youtu.be/pZMN6AnIeAg (http://youtu.be/pZMN6AnIeAg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 04, 2013, 19:33
Both chicks have been on the ledge, it won't be long until they fledge.

http://youtu.be/dhCY1v6oePk (http://youtu.be/dhCY1v6oePk)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 04, 2013, 21:11
Had occasion to be in the downtown area this evening. Sure glad I had my binocs with me. Was able to see one of the chicks peering out over the edge of the ledge. Also saw Princess perched on the top right hand corner of the AMC building across the street from the Radisson nestledge. First time I've actually seen Princess this year. 8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2013, 00:30
Both chicks have been on the ledge, it won't be long until they fledge.

Hopefully he won't go too soon so she doesn't follow him before she's fully baked ...  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2013, 06:53
No chronology this am ... have to get on the road to Brandon in a timely fashion :)


Weather for today/tonight ...

Day - Overcast in the morning, then mostly cloudy. High of 27C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
NIght - Overcast in the evening, then partly cloudy. Low of 18C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 05, 2013, 22:02
So, TPC if the little guy, who's looking pretty restless, decides to fledge and gets grounded or stuck somewhere on a roof and has to be retrieved, would you put him into the nestbox after banding (assuming he is uninjured and ready to be put back) leaving the girl on her own on the ledge? 

And will you be naming these guys?  I know we won't be able to keep track if they can't be banded, but it would be fun to call them something other than boy bird and girl bird :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 05, 2013, 22:18
So, TPC if the little guy, who's looking pretty restless, decides to fledge and gets grounded or stuck somewhere on a roof and has to be retrieved, would you put him into the nestbox after banding (assuming he is uninjured and ready to be put back) leaving the girl on her own on the ledge? 

And will you be naming these guys?  I know we won't be able to keep track if they can't be banded, but it would be fun to call them something other than boy bird and girl bird :-\

We'll probably come up with names perhaps based on personality or some such -that's the way we often name chicks other than the Radisson ones. We'll have a little thing about it.

As for what might happen if he or she should go down after fledging, the answer is yes they will be released from the nestbox - easier access and so long as the chick fledged deliberately (ie not by accident) then the chick could be out of the box and off again in minutes or a couple/few hours. If the male it won't impact the female chick any more than she would already be impacted.  Chicks don't always return to the nest site though I suspect he might because he has just one sib and she is not going to be ready to fledge when he is.  Just gave tk wait and see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: newchick on July 06, 2013, 07:58
Any day now, those two will be soaring the skies.   :o ::) 8) ;D :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 06, 2013, 14:11
Practice, Practice, Practice!!

http://youtu.be/a5VROvzRhwg (http://youtu.be/a5VROvzRhwg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Linder on July 06, 2013, 15:43
Wow the way he is going, it won't be long and he will be airborne.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 06, 2013, 17:39
Weather for tonight ....

Partly cloudy with thunderstorms. Low of 17C. Winds less than 5 km/h. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 6.3 mm possible.


New camera angle so folks can get a close-up look at the chicks while they are napping - the male at least should fledge this week so maybe not so many chances to get a close look at these two together ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 06, 2013, 18:48
Anyone see where the male went, I was watching the Mckenzie kids, switched back and he was gone.

Now they are both gone from the corner.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 06, 2013, 18:55
Anyone see where the male went, I was watching the Mckenzie kids, switched back and he was gone.

Now they are both gone friom the corner.

There he is, the little stinker!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 06, 2013, 18:56
Anyone see where the male went, I was watching the Mckenzie kids, switched back and he was gone.

Now they are both gone friom the corner.

There he is, the little stinker!  :D

I guess he doesn't want to stay in one spot.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 06, 2013, 19:13
Radisson chicks are napping together against the back wall .... don't suspect the male will fledge tonight ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 06, 2013, 20:09
Am I the only person wondering if the male is still on the ledge and just out of view?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 06, 2013, 20:17
Am I the only person wondering if the male is still on the ledge and just out of view?

I think he is on the drain cover, you can see a bit of his tail.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 06, 2013, 21:30
Still nothing. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: noellat on July 06, 2013, 23:05
Well they've been called stinker and terror enough.  Those are good names for them considering they are scaring the daylights out of us.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 07, 2013, 00:27
Chicks are both still on the ledge as of the light leaving ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 07, 2013, 10:39
Chicks were both still huddled up against the nest ledge in the shade till just a few minutes ago. Now the "male" has just hopped up on his regular perch - the drain grate. Now back down again. They seem to be looking out & about - maybe waiting for Sunday morning a food drop. :) Ah! Now "male" has hopped up on the nest ledge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 07, 2013, 10:50
My daughter is coming home to get married later this week and is bringing 23 of her Australian friends with her.  As much as I don't want a fledge cause I just enjoy keeping track of the birds, I really need this to happen so I can get on with things.  Stopping by the cams every morning really stalls my progress in terms of getting the day started.   :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 07, 2013, 11:43
From yesterday

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radschks002.jpg) (http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radschks.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 07, 2013, 12:49
Weather for today - seems to be correct, it is overcast in Winnipeg right now ...

Day - Partly cloudy in the morning, then overcast. High of 27C. Winds from the WSW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Night - Clear. Low of 17C. Winds from the West at 5 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 07, 2013, 12:54
Folks interested in fledgewatching this year (over the next couple of weeks) please send me a pm and I will add your name to the Fledgewatch board.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 07, 2013, 13:28
both chicks are on the ledge edge now ... getting closer to making the "big" decision ...  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 07, 2013, 13:51
Watching the chicks, I don't yet have the sense that he is itching to leap ... maybe it is the time of the day, but it is warm (not hot), with a light wind and its quiet, all of which are favourable fledging conditions.  Mid-afternoon is not a common time to fledge so maybe tomorrow morning? Or the morning after or the morning after ... up to him basically ..
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 07, 2013, 13:54
Close ups of the two chicks and Princess

(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radschks0066.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radschks0044.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radschks0088.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy320/Blondechik_2010/Radisson%202013/radschks0099.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Moonstar on July 07, 2013, 13:58
Okay little ones, off the edge of the ledge.  Jump back into the nest area please.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 07, 2013, 14:01
The female is getting better at getting up on the ledge - that's a good thing, more practice = less of a chance she'll accidentally fledge early in the process
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 08, 2013, 09:17
Weather for today & tonight ....

Day - Partly cloudy. High of 29C. Winds from the SSW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Night - Overcast with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain, then a chance of rain after midnight. Low of 16C. Winds from the WNW at 10 to 15 km/h shifting to the NE after midnight. Chance of rain 50%.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 08, 2013, 09:30
0925h - male is lying down napping on the ledge edge (unnerving!) and the female seems to have lost a bunch of downy feathers overnight!  This week looks like fledge week - today the youngest chick are 38 days old ... we don't know who is the youngest so we age them both at 38 days.

If folks want to be involved in fledgewatch (a little or a lot) just send me a PM and I will add you to the fledgewatch board - this board is private because folks often need to discuss details that are important but don't need to be public.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 08, 2013, 10:01
Wow, female has lost most of her downy feathers overnight!! Guess her brother told her he planned to fledge without her and has decided to get ready as soon as possible.

Seriously though, chicks are 38 days old today, by 40 days she will be old enough to fledge successfully though a few more days of wingercizing would help ensure she is strong enough.  And it wouldn't hurt her brother to get stronger as well.  Ideally we'd like both of them to stay above street level so hope for light winds so they don't have one more thing to figure out "on the fly" ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 08, 2013, 12:47
Where did R-boy go?  I haven't seen him for at least a half hour.   ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 08, 2013, 12:54
Where did R-boy go?  I haven't seen him for at least a half hour.   ???

He's parked against the wall in the bottom/south corner ... have moved the cam ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 08, 2013, 12:56
Thank you Tracy.  He was hiding in the corner, I guess.  Now I see him.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 08, 2013, 13:29
He's been wingercizing but by the way he drops his wings, still seems tired after short bouts.  Hopefully he is smart enough to wait until he's stronger or at least has a bit more stamina before fledging.

And given that the wind is shaking the cam, waiting until early morning when the winds tend to be lighter we definitely be a good thing!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 08, 2013, 14:15
Folks interested in fledgewatching this year (over the next couple of weeks) please send me a pm and I will add your name to the Fledgewatch board.
I would be interested in fledgewatching, TPC. I have tried to "PM" you but don't seem to be able to. Don't seem to be able to "PM" anyone else on the Forum either. :-\ ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 08, 2013, 17:40
Folks interested in fledgewatching this year (over the next couple of weeks) please send me a pm and I will add your name to the Fledgewatch board.
I would be interested in fledgewatching, TPC. I have tried to "PM" you but don't seem to be able to. Don't seem to be able to "PM" anyone else on the Forum either. :-\ ???

Weird, let me have a look at what might be up ... have added you to the Fledgewatch board ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 08, 2013, 17:57
Hilarious tug-of-war for dinner!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 08, 2013, 18:56
Nice close-up[s Tracy.  Looks like they are having a conversation.  Very cute!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 08, 2013, 18:58
Awwww, the Radisson chicks are being too cute ... she is lying down on the gravel by ledge edge where he has been sitting for the last little while.  Now he has decided to lie down on the edge right above her and he has his head hanging over the edge above her.  Since they are being so cute, I've zoomed in for awhile ... I'll zoom out again if I have to go away from the computer in case they move ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 08, 2013, 19:35
Nothing like lounging on the ledge in the "bathroom"! LOL! :D Love the close-up!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2013, 09:00
Weather for today & tonight ...

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain. High of 23C. Breezy. Winds from the NNW at 10 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 60%.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then clear. Low of 15C. Winds from the WNW at 10 to 15 km/h.

We had a severe thunderstorm watch overnight for much of southern Manitoba but it ended at 0416h. 
Thunderstorms are still expected in southern Manitoba this morning but they are not expected to be severe.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2013, 09:14
Both chicks are still on the ledge - the parents have been by with food a couple of times this morning and the chicks have been playing "king of the drain cover" ... male has been moving about on the ledge edge very comfortably but not alot of wingercizing so far, perhaps a bit too cool this morning to get him interested in flying?  At the moment, it almost looks like the male chick is lying down and female is on the drain cover and I would have thought it would be the other way around.  Just can't tell by the way they are perched/lying who's who for sure right now.

Winds are from the north and west today which will mean the ledge is more sheltered but they are breezy/gusty and stronger than they have been for the last little while.  If the male (or both) were to fledge today, don't know if the wind would play a part, depends which way they go and if they decide to keep moving or just park themselves and wait to try again later.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2013, 09:16
Looks like the male is "king of the cover" and she is playing Sleeping Beauty ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Saoirse on July 09, 2013, 09:54
Every morning when I first check this thread, I'm expecting to read that the male has fledged! Any day now, I know.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 09, 2013, 11:52
hope they stay put if a strong wind or storm is brewing
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: ballywing on July 09, 2013, 14:22
Can we name 'Male' and 'Female' just for fun, it would just make it nicer when talking about them to call them something else?  Jack and Jill or something ???  ;D ;D   :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 09, 2013, 14:51
How about "Tracy" and "Dennis" as names (unofficially)?  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2013, 16:31
How about "Tracy" and "Dennis" as names (unofficially)?  ;D

Aack, don't do that, it might doom them!!!  :o ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 09, 2013, 16:41
Early dinner courtesy of Princess ... two chicks are happily tearing into whatever was brought in ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 09, 2013, 17:05
or, for names, "Rad" for the boy and "Winnie" for the girl? Or??  ;D ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jo on July 09, 2013, 19:31
Both chicks doing a good job of blending in to their surroundings.

(http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m586/Jo17151/2013%20Falcons/20130709.jpg) (http://s1133.photobucket.com/user/Jo17151/media/2013%20Falcons/20130709.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 09, 2013, 21:45
Radisson male practising on the ledge, it won't be long until he fledges.

http://youtu.be/fWKnMuHODs8 (http://youtu.be/fWKnMuHODs8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Linder on July 09, 2013, 23:12
I totally agree with you. I hope sister doesn't try to follow as she doesn't look like she is ready to go yet.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Linder on July 09, 2013, 23:15
Folks interested in fledgewatching this year (over the next couple of weeks) please send me a pm and I will add your name to the Fledgewatch board.
I would be interested in fledgewatching, TPC. I have tried to "PM" you but don't seem to be able to. Don't seem to be able to "PM" anyone else on the Forum either. :-\ ???

Weird, let me have a look at what might be up ... have added you to the Fledgewatch board ...

I advised that I also would be interested and you said you would add me to the list, the only name I see is Susha. Are there more?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: des on July 10, 2013, 09:59
Maybe this was covered earlier, but missed it..about names.
Will Rad and Winnie ever get names or is this only if they are banded? 


Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 10, 2013, 10:27
Forecast for today ...

Day - Clear in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 27C. Winds from the WNW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Night - Clear. Low of 18C. Winds from the SW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 10, 2013, 10:29
I advised that I also would be interested and you said you would add me to the list, the only name I see is Susha. Are there more?

Sorry Linder, revised that thread and missed updating - but you have access to the board & I've updated the list with the names of all the folks that have signed up so far!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 10, 2013, 10:55
or, for names, "Rad" for the boy and "Winnie" for the girl? Or??  ;D ???

How about "Rad" and "Sunny"? ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 10, 2013, 11:00
Maybe this was covered earlier, but missed it..about names.
Will Rad and Winnie ever get names or is this only if they are banded?  

I don't have a problem naming the chicks even if they don't get banded but probably best to see if they have any particular personality traits that might make their naming more memorable rather than just convenient.  And at the moment, we assume they are a male and a female based on size but considering that both the chicks are still on the ledge and it is Day 40 today.  Often male chicks leave before 40, but the longer the better as they get stronger each day and hopefully more able to stay out of trouble when they do take their first flights!!  

Note - we won't be calling any chicks Winnie as I realize that one of our first out-of-province nesters was a Winnie - she was in Omaha, Nebraska with Zeus at the Woodmen Building and typically produced 5 eggs a year!  Figure it would do her a disservice if we named another chick by the same name!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 10, 2013, 11:26
Rad and Sunny are good for me unless something more appropriate comes along.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 10, 2013, 12:26
Both kids are safe and sound and are up and watching the world - one on the drain cover, on on the ledge edge.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 10, 2013, 12:35
Wings on the ledge edge-sitter still seem pretty heavy...not ready yet I'm guessing... :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 10, 2013, 14:50
Looks like the little girl does not like to share food with her brother.  She just grabbed it from the parent and ran away with it.  He just sat there looking at her, then jumped onto the drain to see if he could get a bite or two.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 10, 2013, 15:33
This pair seems to want to do nothing much - not even very much wingersizing going on today.  Lots of looking at the world, napping and eating once in a while.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 10, 2013, 22:10
2211h
Both chicks still on the ledge, one on the drain cover (looks bulky - female?) and one below in the corner against the wall.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 10, 2013, 23:48
I have to admit, I have not observed much wingersizing from either of these two. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 11, 2013, 06:34
I can only see one of the kids this morning.  Is one hiding?  Or did one fly this morning?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Sue on July 11, 2013, 08:08
I'm only seeing one as well.   :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 11, 2013, 08:08
Looks like only one.  If there are fledge watchers out there, they will likely let people know what is going on.  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 08:58
Chick one went off cleanly at 0619h this morning ... have been panning around downtown looking for chick but nothing yet (not always easy to find!) but will go back and check the recording to see if I can figure out who it was - assumption is that it was the male but ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 11, 2013, 09:02
have you been able to see the  second chick on the ledge?  Is that it laying face down in the shade?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: MayShowers on July 11, 2013, 09:06
I'm fairly sure the second chick is in the shade against the wall in the white area.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 09:16
Names for the chicks ...


male = Tenzing - after Tenzing Norgay
female = Hillary - after Edmund Hillary


This year is the 60th anniversary of the first ascent of Mount Everest ...

In 1953, a ninth British expedition, led by John Hunt, returned to Nepal. Hunt selected two climbing pairs to attempt to reach the summit. The first pair (Tom Bourdillon and Charles Evans) came within 100 m (330 ft) of the summit on 26 May 1953, but turned back after running into oxygen problems. As planned, their work in route finding and breaking trail and their caches of extra oxygen were of great aid to the following pair. Two days later, the expedition made its second and final assault on the summit with its second climbing pair, the New Zealander Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, a Nepali sherpa climber from Darjeeling, India. They reached the summit at 11:30 am local time on 29 May 1953 via the South Col Route. At the time, both acknowledged it as a team effort by the whole expedition, but Tenzing revealed a few years later that Hillary had put his foot on the summit first.They paused at the summit to take photographs and buried a few sweets and a small cross in the snow before descending. (Wikipedia)

Because of equipment delays this year, we couldn't get to the chicks to band them so in a way, the nestledge has been the Project's Everest.  For the peregrines however, the official Tibetan name for Mount Everest is Qomolangma, literally "Holy Mother" - a poetic but somewhat appropriate name for a nestbox or nestledge.  A high place to protect the chicks.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 09:17
I'm fairly sure the second chick is in the shade against the wall in the white area.

For those who are a bit confused as to which wall MayShowers is referring, its the outside, ledge wall.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 11, 2013, 09:22
Wonderful names, TPC! :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 09:24
Weather forecast ...

Day - Clear. High of 30C. Breezy. Winds from the South at 15 to 20 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then overcast with thunderstorms. Low of 24C. Breezy. Winds from the South at 15 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 50%.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 09:29
Checked the recording and Tenzing was doing ALOT of wingercizing and running about this morning ... Hillary kept looking at him at him oddly - sort of like (anthropomorphizing here folks) he was up to something and she wasn't quite sure it was acceptable behaviour ...

Haven't found him yet with the spy cam and don't want to use the ledgecam to look for him.  Haven't heard anything from spotters or any fledgewatchers who might be out and nothing from passersby etc, so with luck, he is safely on a roof somewhere and we just have to track him down ...

Hot day today (30C) might mean Tenzing will park himself in the shade somewhere and wait until later in the day (or evening) to make his next big move ... give him time to recover and for us to "discover" him ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: MayShowers on July 11, 2013, 09:32
Great names and history behind them :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 09:45
Tenzing is on the roof of the parking lot ramp just south of the nestledge - he's less than 50 metres from Hillary & the nestledge.

That means he flew out and flew back safely - at least two launches and two safe landings under his "wing" ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 11, 2013, 09:51
Looked like Princess just flew in and took some yuckovers off the ledge, maybe taking a snack to the little Mr.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 09:55
Tenzing is doing some running and flapping on the ramp ... looks like he really wants to get back up on the nestledge ... might have been seeing/hearing Princess bring in food that has set him off ... if he/we are lucky, one of the adults will bring food to him on the ramp roof ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 11, 2013, 10:09
Great morning so far and really good names for these two birds!!!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 10:17
1016h

Tenzing looks to be trying to find a spot to lie down on the ramp roof edge for a wee rest ... now he has tucked himself into the corner - good place to be out of the wind which apparently is gusting over 20km/h from the south/southwest according to the U of Wpg weather station.  That means it is probably funnelling up the street a bit.  Will be nice when the sun goes behind the Hotel, but that will take a bit of time yet ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: soaring west on July 11, 2013, 10:47
Another year for great names thank you TPC, for the thought that goes into the picking of the names.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: newchick on July 11, 2013, 10:59
I missed the chance to vote on the names?  I guess that's what I get for spending my summer, basically out of touch with minimal internet connections.   :'( ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Stormy on July 11, 2013, 11:14
The game is on . . . I think ???  There are two birds right now on the ledge.  But, one looks like Princess ???  And the other is hiding in the shade.


Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 11, 2013, 11:22
It's great to hear that Tenzing made a safe landing on his first flight.

A nice reversal of history - our Tenzing goes first before Hillary. 

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 11, 2013, 12:05
I just got a chance to properly read the story of the names and I love it!  Very appropriate for this year.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Moonstar on July 11, 2013, 12:05
I missed the chance to vote on the names?  I guess that's what I get for spending my summer, basically out of touch with minimal internet connections.   :'( ::)

As far as I know there was not vote this time.  TPC just named them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 11, 2013, 12:10
There was no vote because they were not banded.  They were only named because some of the posters were asking for them to be named.  Once they have both fledged, I assume it will be hard to tell who is who unless they are together and the different sizes can be seen.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 12:30
There was no vote because they were not banded.  They were only named because some of the posters were asking for them to be named.  Once they have both fledged, I assume it will be hard to tell who is who unless they are together and the different sizes can be seen.

That is exactly right Jazzer.  If one of the birds should be grounded we will band them then but if they don't, almost no way to tell who's who unless we were to get a genetic testing done.  But then, who knows what the future might hold!!  Brave new world folks  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 12:31
Tenzing is still on the ramp roof and he looks to be more sheltered than Hillary.  Almost seen her flipped a couple of times, he looks like he is pretty much out of the wind entirely.

Wind gusts at the U of Wpg were clocked at 43km/h within the last hour ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 12:54
Princess just left the ledge then cam back after a little fly around ... she's off again now.  I suspect the first flight was to see if she could see Tenzing because she was lower than the ledge.  Could be she's about to make a food drop to him ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 12:57
1259h

Tenzing's getting antsy again - wings are out and a little flutters across the ramp roof ... he's drooping his wings so hopefully he's still a wee bit tired and will make a wise choice and stay where he is ... at the moment he's under a slight overhang so out of the wind almost entirely but still visible with the cameras ...

Hillary is off the ledge edge and back on the roof - looks like she may be settling down in the cool corner where the shade is forming ... might be the remains of a meal there ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: des on July 11, 2013, 13:11
I just got a chance to properly read the story of the names and I love it!  Very appropriate for this year.  :)
Yes, terrific!  Thank you
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 11, 2013, 15:32
A lot has happened today!

I like the names, and am happy that two successful flights happened following Tenzing's fledge.

It would be nice if he could have a meal and a nap before trying to rejoin Hilary at the nestledge.

Stay, little birdie, stay!


Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Feather2Fin on July 11, 2013, 15:55
What an exciting day!  Yesterday everyone looked so comfy in the nest- not a lot of wingersizing. Today our little guy was up and away early in the morning. I am so glad with the outcomes thus far. Crossing my fingers that good things continue.  Love the names and reasons for the choice. ;D :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 16:01
Hillary is still on the nestledge lying down on by the drain cover.  Tenzing is still on the ramp roof but at the lowest end - down at the extreme south end ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 18:05
1809h
Tenzing is giving me a coronary ... he's flapped his way all the way up the ramp roof (it's sloped, higher at the north end than at the south) ... he's back at the south end now and hopefully one of the adults will bring him some food and he'll settle for the night and then if he must try again, he'll do so in the morning when the winds are typically lighter ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 18:07
1809h
Tenzing is giving me a coronary ... he's flapped his way all the way up the ramp roof (it's sloped, higher at the north end than at the south) ... he's back at the south end now and hopefully one of the adults will bring him some food and he'll settle for the night and then if he must try again, he'll do so in the morning when the winds are typically lighter ...

Nuts, :o thought I'd lost him, he's run/flown all the way back down to the south end again ... if he just keeps doing that and getting stronger, I'll be happy ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 18:46
1848h
Tenzing is back at the north end of the ramp roof - didn't see him go so can't say if he was flying or running or made his way slowly.  In any case, he's tucked up in/under the overhang at the corner of the ramp roof edge.  Looks like he's more protected there than Hillary is on the nestledge!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: msdolittle on July 11, 2013, 18:53
He is just on the closest part to portage. Almost under the nest
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 19:11
1911h
Tenzing is back at the south end of the ramp roof.  I keep missing how he's travelling back and forth now, but I suspect there is a lot short flights/hops from one end to another.  Or at least I hope so because that will be helping him get stronger and more proficient with those big wings ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 19:29
1928h

Hillary is wingercizing like made right now but hopefully she will stay put tonight!!!

Tenzing just flapped-hopped and ran his way from south to north again.  Can't say for sure but I suspect that Hillary's flapping set him off ...

Princess is sitting on the green slash under the R on the east-side Radisson sign ... she's watching both the kids and doesn't seem at all perturbed or disturbed ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 11, 2013, 21:50
I'm glad to hear that Radisson is watching our boy.  Did she feed him?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 22:30
I'm glad to hear that Radisson is watching our boy.  Did she feed him?

Can't say for sure, but likely since he wasn't as antsy as I would have expected if he hadn't had food all day (he left at 0619h). 

There was just enough light from the street that I'm pretty sure I could see his outline at the south end of the ramp roof just now (2225h).  Can't see Hillary anywhere on the ledge right now because the light has dropped too low but 15 minutes ago she was lying down next to the front wall north of the point

Can't tell if either of the adults are on the sign but probably, they seem to be there all day so suspect they are still there now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 11, 2013, 22:30
For those wondering what is going on the north side of the Hotel, they are replacing a pane of glass on the 29th floor ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 11, 2013, 23:13
Whoa! :o Lots of excitement today! I like the names, TPC. Much thought put into them, as usual. And very appropriate names. Hopefully Tenzing will stay put for the night on the parkade ramp & Hillary will stay put on the nest ledge tonight.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 12, 2013, 05:34
The names are excellent.  Would have been good to make them official with some leg bands. 
My daughter is home from Australia to get married so I'm missing out on the fledgewatch which
I really wanted to help out with.  Hoping that when I get the chance to check in our two chicks
will always be where they should be.  All the best to our loyal fledgewatchers, you are appreciated!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 12, 2013, 07:07
Tenzing is still on the ramp roof and Hillary is on the nestledge edge.  Neither looks like they want to fly in this rain ...

Weather for today ...

Day - Overcast with thunderstorms. High of 32C. Breezy. Winds from the SSW at 10 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 14.0 mm possible.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then clear. Low of 19C. Winds from the WSW at 10 to 15 km/h shifting to the NW after midnight.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 12, 2013, 15:36
Hillary looks kinda lonely there on that ledge :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 12, 2013, 17:00
Do the fledgewatchers or anyone have any news on Tenzing and what he's been up to today?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Linder on July 12, 2013, 18:10
Since there has been nothing reported, I assume no one has been out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 12, 2013, 18:13
Since there has been nothing reported, I assume no one has been out.

Thanks Linder
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 12, 2013, 18:44
I was down there just before noon today and I thought I saw Tenzing still on the parkade ledge (kind of hard to see up there from the street) and Hillary was sitting on the edge of the nest ledge just looking around.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 12, 2013, 19:10
Have just finished buzzing around downtown on the east side of the Hotel with the spy-cam and no sign of Tenzing.  Going to have a look around with the west-side cam in a bit. 

Nothing so far to report and nothing has been reported to be yet either ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: msdolittle on July 12, 2013, 19:22
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q569/McDolittle/th_radissonmail_zps31208eac.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/McDolittle/media/radissonmail_zps31208eac.jpg.html)

The male from yesterday evening.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bccs on July 12, 2013, 19:30
Nice one MSD, kid is still ok, all is right with the world.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: msdolittle on July 12, 2013, 19:33
That was from yesterday BccS, was just a little slow downloading the pic
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 12, 2013, 22:11
Hilary is hanging out up on the ledge.
She looks fairly comfortable, preening, and no doubt hoping for bro to join her for night time.
Thanks msdolittle and Jazzerdins for fledge watch reports.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 12, 2013, 22:24
Hopefully, as they say, "no news is good news". :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 13, 2013, 07:26
Tenzing returned for a few minutes.  He couldn't reach the top of the wall, so he clung to the side of the ledge.  Then he flew away again toward the south.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 13, 2013, 07:28
Tenzing returned for a few minutes.  He couldn't reach the top of the wall, so he clung to the side of the ledge.  Then he flew away again toward the south.

Do you mean the nest ledge?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 13, 2013, 08:42
Tenzing returned for a few minutes.  He couldn't reach the top of the wall, so he clung to the side of the ledge.  Then he flew away again toward the south.

Do you mean the nest ledge?

Yes.  He was clinging to the point where the smooth top of the wall meets the rougher wall below.
He seemed to be trying to fly up to join Hillary on the wall but didn't succeed.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 13, 2013, 09:07
Glad you saw him, he will probably keep trying to get back to visit his sister.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 13, 2013, 10:01
I managed to figure out how to post a picture; here it is:

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p698/EDBrattland/Radisson%20Peregrines/16cfe07f-a8c8-4eb9-9949-1ac963666913_zps6ebf3079.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/EDBrattland/media/Radisson%20Peregrines/16cfe07f-a8c8-4eb9-9949-1ac963666913_zps6ebf3079.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 13, 2013, 10:02
hope all is well
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 13, 2013, 10:09
I managed to figure out how to post a picture; here it is:

What a great picture, Thanks Dagny!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 13, 2013, 10:35
Dagny that picture is an incredibly important shot, way to go!!   We know he's okay, we know he can fly and we can see he wants to visit home where Hillary is.  I'm so glad you caught that.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 11:30
Well done Dagny!!!  We'd been having no luck finding him and I hadn't been through the recordings yet.

Bonus points for catching his ascent back to the nestledge  ;D  (nice when a name turns out to be even a little bit appropriate!)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 13, 2013, 11:43
An amazing picture.  Is it Radisson urging him on from above?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 12:03
An amazing picture.  Is it Radisson urging him on from above?

By size it looks like Ivy - Ivy had just brought in food and Tenzing missed getting there - he had good height coming in but I think he pulled up a little right at the last minute.  He hung on there for a minute, minute and a half before following Ivy.  It may have been half and half get back to the nestledge and get some breakfast!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 13, 2013, 12:20
Is that the two young ones there now or a parent and Hillary?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 13, 2013, 12:22
I hope you find him
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 12:23
Weather looks pretty good for Tenzing's building hopping today ...

Day - Clear. High of 30C. Winds from the NE at 5 to 15 km/h.
Night - Clear in the evening, then mostly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. Low of 18C. Breezy. Winds from the SSE at 10 to 20 km/h shifting to the North after midnight.


The wind is sitting at less than 5 km/h at the moment with occasional gust around 15km/h.  If it sticks like this, it should be a decent day.  Tomorrow is suppose to be breezier, so if Hillary wants to go, today might not be too bad or if she wants to wait until Monday, forecast says winds will be <5km/h again but a bit rainy.  We'll just have to see ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 12:25
Is that the two young ones there now or a parent and Hillary? 

That was an adult - caught just the end of it but it looked like Princess ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 12:27
I hope you find him 

Would be nice but at this point, he's on day 3 off the ledge and from his return just before 0700h this morning, failed though it was, looks like he is doing well so far.  Couple more days and he's probably safely out of the newly fledged woods and we just have to hope he doesn't start doing risky things too fast.  The few extra days on the ledge certainly helped!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 13, 2013, 13:09
WE lost track of our young guy last year after day 5 but I kept the faith because I remember you told me you lost track o f Radisson after day 4 of fledge and look where she is now .

good luck
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 13:22
WE lost track of our young guy last year after day 5 but I kept the faith because I remember you told me you lost track o f Radisson after day 4 of fledge and look where she is now .

We lost track of Hurricane almost from her first fledge and she did pretty well too  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: ballywing on July 13, 2013, 15:13
Woooeeee!!!! - Hillary just had a MEGA Wingersize session!!!  :o Thought she was going to go - she must be hot & tired after that!! Rest up a bit girl before taking the leap!  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 18:09
1805h
Hillary is still on the ledge - she's lying down just to the left of the drain cover next to the wall.  She's all brown now and without downy feathers hard to spot in the shade.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 19:22
1923h

Hillary is still on the nestledge - winds are coming up on the west side of the Hotel, the skycam is shaking a bit, but ledge cam and ledge look pretty protected.  If one of the adults comes in now with a meal, if Tenzing is around and hungry, he shouldn't have much trouble getting back so long as he can maintain altitude.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 20:49
2045h
Hillary is lying down on the ledge near the point.  By the way she is sitting, it almost looks as though she can see over the wall.  Ivy is perched on the edge of the nestbox - makes me wonder if Tenzing will turn up there soon
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 13, 2013, 21:44
I managed to figure out how to post a picture; here it is...

Great photo, Dagny! Nice to know Tenzing has been spotted. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 13, 2013, 22:27
Light has gone downtown, Ivy is still on the nestbox and Hillary just hopped down off the ledge edge onto the ledge proper.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2013, 12:33
Hillary has been alone all morning, no repeat (that I could see) of Tenzing's visit yesterday morning .. also haven't seen a meal drop but I think there was one before the light cam up enough to be sure.  At the moment Hillary is on the edge in the cool corner (south end of the ledge) and appears to be napping a bit in the wind blowing against her breast ...


Forecast for today ...

Day - Partly cloudy. High of 25C. Breezy. Winds from the North at 15 to 20 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 16C. Winds from the NE at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2013, 13:10
1309h

Ivy's in the nestbox doing his usual post-nesting-season scraping in the gravel and standing around looking for Princess.  Its like the spring all over again, well almost, he's not quite so frantic about it all like he is in the spring but he is just as dedicated.

On the east side of the building, Hillary is still hanging out the cool corner.  She just got up after napping lying down on the edge.  Funny how a week ago we would have been begging her not to sit on the edge, now her lying down with her eyes closed are just not as scary. 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Stormy on July 14, 2013, 13:16
The lone female chick is beautiful!  Thank you so much for this forum, for those who lurk in the background (me  ;D) and for those who are very active on this website.  Also, thank you Tracy and Dennis for your dedication and for everyone's enthusiasm. . . :-* ;) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: newchick on July 14, 2013, 13:33
Yay!  Nice close-up of Hillary on the Radisson Camera, preening, and hanging on the ledge, thinking, no I think I will stay a little while yet.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 14, 2013, 13:34
Great shot of Hillary...she has a crown of lighter feathers just like her mum, more-so actually :)  Princess's princess  8)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: ballywing on July 14, 2013, 14:26
Ohhhh!!! - You're right Susha!!! Never noticed that crown before - that's wonderful!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RaptorGal on July 14, 2013, 14:45
Great shot of Hillary...she has a crown of lighter feathers just like her mum, more-so actually :)  Princess's princess  8)
:)  I had noticed her crown a while ago and I am not sure if the crown will fade off or be replaced by black feathers.  Time will tell but for now we have a "Princess Hillary" to watch and royally admire!  :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2013, 14:48
Great shot of Hillary...she has a crown of lighter feathers just like her mum, more-so actually :)  Princess's princess  8)
:)  I had noticed her crown a while ago and I am not sure if the crown will fade off or be replaced by black feathers.  Time will tell but for now we have a "Princess Hillary" to watch and royally admire!  :D

Only time and luck will tell.  She needs to make it through fledging, then her first year, then to find a boyfriend and have young.  Maybe someday we will see a photo of an unbanded chick with a crown of photos that looks to be about the right age and it could be her ...  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 14, 2013, 14:53
Ok up from the nap, big stretch and flap, lots of vocalizing and right up on the ledge for winfercizing.
 
Is our miss beieng coaxed by a fly by of parent? 

She looks very confident! 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2013, 14:54
1454h
Ivy just flew past the nestledge and got Hillary up and flapping again ....
He'd been on the nestbox hanging out in the sun before that.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 14, 2013, 19:26
1927h
Have repositionned the cam to be able to see all of the ledge - I'm not convinced that Hillary will fly tonight but in case she has had enough of being by herself, we should be able to see all the action this way ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: MayShowers on July 15, 2013, 05:49
My computer screen was freezing off & on, but I think Hillary fledged at 0545h.  
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: GCG on July 15, 2013, 05:51
10 minutes ago, I logged on, saw Hillary. Just came back. She's gone! I missed it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: GCG on July 15, 2013, 06:00
1927h
Have repositionned the cam to be able to see all of the ledge - I'm not convinced that Hillary will fly tonight but in case she has had enough of being by herself, we should be able to see all the action this way ...

Unless, like Mayshowers and I, you blink!!!!!! ::) ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 15, 2013, 08:21
I hope all the fledgewatchers were out watching this morning, please let us know where she is.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2013, 09:37
So far no reports of problems but I haven't been able to find her yet with any of the cams.  Not really surprising, we don't have 360 degree coverage and if she is tucked down in a place like the ledge on the MTS Centre, no way to see her until she moves.  Ivy came in with food at 0719h and looked surprised that no one rushed over for breakfast - he headed off in the same direction Hillary & Tenzing have been taking.

No news is good news ... but she chose a good day to go - winds less than <5km/h forecasted

Weather for today ...

Day - Partly cloudy. High of 27C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 22C. Breezy. Winds from the South at 10 to 25 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2013, 12:55
1253h

Haven't had any reports involving a peregrine in the downtown (or anywhere else) and haven't been able to spot Tenzing or Hillary using the cams.  Interestingly, haven't seen Princess for the last couple of days either (I'm going to check the recordings to be sure) so she may be hanging out with Tenzing - she's done that in the past when one chick goes away and doesn't come back to the ledge (not uncommon), she's disappeared with them leaving her mate, both Ivy and Trey, to babysit the nest/ledge.  Have seen Ivy in and out of the nestbox this morning - pretty standard routine for him.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2013, 13:29
Just got a call and until I can confirm with a photo I can't be positive, but it sounds as though the Radisson chicks, or one of them at least, may be doing some wandering around downtown.  The caller was reporting a peregrine chick on a 17th storey window ledge about 5 blocks away from the Hotel.  Bird landed on the ledge, hung out for a bit and then flew off again and it sounds as thought it flew to a window ledge on another building but up a couple of storeys.  A couple of folks were taking photos so hopefully they will send me a copy or two ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Moonstar on July 15, 2013, 13:43
Did they say what buildings this chick was on?  It would help any people who would be fledge watching if they knew or any people who work downtown could maybe take a look.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2013, 14:42
Did they say what buildings this chick was on?  It would help any people who would be fledge watching if they knew or any people who work downtown could maybe take a look.

So far as I know, none of our four 2013 fledgewatchers are out watching right now but as soon as I get more details I will post them here.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2013, 14:44
1443h
Ivy is perched and cat-napping on the nestledge right now ... bit of a breeze blowing on him so its likely that Hillary is parked somewhere like Tenzing was when the wind came up after he fledged.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 15, 2013, 15:17
Ivy is popping in and out of the nestbox like a jack-in-the-box right now, could be Princess is nearby and he wants to do a little pair bonding or it may be he's trying to encourage one of the chicks to join him ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: burdi on July 15, 2013, 16:14
1253h

Haven't had any reports involving a peregrine in the downtown (or anywhere else) and haven't been able to spot Tenzing or Hillary using the cams.  Interestingly, haven't seen Princess for the last couple of days either (I'm going to check the recordings to be sure) so she may be hanging out with Tenzing - she's done that in the past when one chick goes away and doesn't come back to the ledge (not uncommon), she's disappeared with them leaving her mate, both Ivy and Trey, to babysit the nest/ledge.  Have seen Ivy in and out of the nestbox this morning - pretty standard routine for him.

Thank you for this past info on Princess and her chicks, TPC. I also have not seen Princess for a while, so it helps to think she may be spending time near Tenzing... somewhere.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: burdi on July 15, 2013, 16:21
Did they say what buildings this chick was on?  It would help any people who would be fledge watching if they knew or any people who work downtown could maybe take a look.

So far as I know, none of our four 2013 fledgewatchers are out watching right now but as soon as I get more details I will post them here.

Hopefully a watcher (if there are any Radisson watchers out this year) may soon post a possible sighting of Tenzing or Hillary. Perhaps an adult flying above, or delivering food might be spotted nearby.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 15, 2013, 16:47
Do the parents continue to feed the fledglings?  How soon will they be able to hunt on their own?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 15, 2013, 18:57
where are the watchers this year???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 15, 2013, 20:47
where are the watchers this year???

Unfortunately, a few of us regular fledge watchers are away on holidays right now, bev. Here's hoping our 2 fledglings are okay. :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: allikat on July 15, 2013, 21:33
Just got caught up...Woohoo!!!  So exciting!!!  Way to go Hillary and Tenzing!!!

They are probably hangin' out Peregrine Style!   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Feather2Fin on July 16, 2013, 00:22
Do the parents continue to feed the fledglings?  How soon will they be able to hunt on their own?

I have watched for a few years now (I used to work very close to the Radisson) and from my limited experience the parents keep track of their young and do feed them.  It seems to me that continues pretty much until they head south but certainly for several weeks.  At times they also entice the kids to fly higher by tempting them with food in their (the parent's) beaks.  Sort of like tag only if you catch the parent you can grab a snack. I've seen and heard them vocalizing and flying in circles. I suspect that they teach them to hunt. Hoping to make it downtown tomorrow  to look for the Radisson peregrines.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 09:22
Weather today for Winnipeg ...

Day - Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. High of 26C. Winds from the WSW at 10 to 15 km/h shifting to the NW in the afternoon. Chance of rain 60%.
Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 14C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 09:27
All looks to be good, haven't found any problems with the birds when I have been out and haven't had any reports of incidents from spotters or the rehabbers. 

Only report I have had so far was yesterday from folks beside the Convention Centre who were pretty sure it was a peregrine chick hanging out briefly on their window ledge on the 17th floor before heading off to another building.  The best part of that report is the 17th floor part - means if it was one of our chicks, they have figured out how to gain altitude.

I suspect that this pair will not be like the family groups we have had in the past couple of years.  I suspect that we will not, or only very very rarely see them on camera again this season.  The last couple of years we have been very fortunate that the chicks returned to the nestbox pretty regularly and we could watch them for a bit longer, pretty sure that won't be the case with this pair.  We've had other nests like that - Hurricane and her band were like that ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 09:30
Do the parents continue to feed the fledglings?  How soon will they be able to hunt on their own?

I have watched for a few years now (I used to work very close to the Radisson) and from my limited experience the parents keep track of their young and do feed them.  It seems to me that continues pretty much until they head south but certainly for several weeks.  At times they also entice the kids to fly higher by tempting them with food in their (the parent's) beaks.  Sort of like tag only if you catch the parent you can grab a snack. I've seen and heard them vocalizing and flying in circles. I suspect that they teach them to hunt. Hoping to make it downtown tomorrow  to look for the Radisson peregrines.

F2F is correct, the adults are following the chicks around feeding them and by this point also starting to use food to get the chicks to follow them around.  First stage in teaching them how to hunt is to follow, then to chase, then to catch food in mid-air (very cool) and the chicks chase things other than their parents and then they figure out where dinner comes from :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 09:41
where are the watchers this year???

Unfortunately, a few of us regular fledge watchers are away on holidays right now, bev. Here's hoping our 2 fledglings are okay. :-\  

These chicks are two weeks late fledging so we are usually done fledge watching long before now so it was inevitable that we would run into holiday times.  And besides fledge watching is really that, watching the chicks as they fledge.  In terms of "protecting" the birds, more than 1/2 the time we get calls from non-fledgewatchers - the public, bldg managers, rehabbers, vets, the police, etc), 1/3 of the time we get a report of a dead bird and the rest of the time fledgewatchers are close enough to provide very timely and usually live-saving assistance.  So when we have fledgewatchers it's a wonderful bonus but often, even with fledgewatchers, it's up to the chick and luck.

I should report that in talking with others south, east and west of us, this has been a late year for pretty much everyone - the North Dakota birds are 4 weeks off their usual schedule if I remember correctly.  So we are most certainly not alone!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 10:40
1029h
Haven't seen Princess in ages and here she is sitting on the Radisson sign looking around ... will take a swing around to see what or who might be within camera range.

One of the chicks is sitting on the north side of Portage Avenue on the top of the Paris Building ... chicks looks just fine sitting there ... definitely what Princess is keeping an eye on ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 10:46
1046h
... oops, chick has moved across the street to the old Bank of Nova Scotia Building (now Vital Statistics I believe) .. and I think perhaps the other chick has turned up on the Paris building ... lights not quite right to confirm but will keep an eye on it ... definitely 3 peregrines parked within a few hundred metres of one another right now ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 10:53
Okay, Princess is on the Radisson sign, chick is on the Paris Building but can't tell who it might be, Hillary or Tenzing, and it looks like Ivy is on the domed roof of the old Bank of Nova Scotia - I can see facial markings clearly which since the chicks are gold and brown means it has to be an adult and I'm assuming its Ivy based on how close they are to the Radisson.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 11:05
Think chick 2 just dropped onto the Bank of Nova Scotia ... if chick, then by size it is Tenzing and Hillary is up on the Paris Building ...  will keep an eye on them ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Pense on July 16, 2013, 11:10
Thanks for the update TPC!  It's always good to hear that they are doing okay.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 16, 2013, 11:26
WOW!! They're flying!!  This is so exciting.  I have an opportunity to go through downtown and hope to see something, anything.  Thanks for the tracking info Tracy, I like to read about all of it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 16, 2013, 11:31
I turned on the computer just in time to see your tweet and quickly pulled up the Radisson cam.  Great to see him.  It's interesting that he's still wingercizing before he takes off.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: soaring west on July 16, 2013, 12:08
happy to hear that there is a sighting of at least one of the 2.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 16, 2013, 15:19
We've been watching two falcons on top of the Delta Hotel for the last few hours. Pretty sure mom or dad just flew by, but didn't appear to have food.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 15:30
We've been watching two falcons on top of the Delta Hotel for the last few hours. Pretty sure mom or dad just flew by, but didn't appear to have food.  

Which side of the Delta Hotel CB?  I can just see that far with the cameras at the Radisson ...
Ivy is on the east-side Radisson sign right now
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 16:17
1620h
Hillary (left) and Tenzing (right) hanging out together on the west side of the Paris Building.  Princess is on the Radisson sign keeping an eye on them ...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPU0NP8CAAA-FFL.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: burdi on July 16, 2013, 16:51

How exciting to see Hillary and Tenzing sitting together again, great photo catch!!

Thank you TPC, and thank you to all who have contributed to locating our Radisson chicks.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 16, 2013, 18:09
That picture sure makes one feel good :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 16, 2013, 18:34
1620h
Hillary (left) and Tenzing (right) hanging out together on the west side of the Paris Building.  Princess is on the Radisson sign keeping an eye on them ...

So great to see these 2 together on the Paris Bldg! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Moonstar on July 16, 2013, 18:42
 :) Happy to see they are doing well.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 16, 2013, 18:59
Thank you to Feather2Fin and TPC for the info about how the fledglings are fed and trained.  It's a pity that can't be captured on the cams.

It's so good to see them together.  They're obviously able to gain some altitude now.   ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 16, 2013, 19:05
That picture sure makes one feel good :)

Ditto Irene! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 16, 2013, 22:26
Could only find Ivy on the Radisson sign before the light went down but from what we have seen today, Hillary and Tenzing look to be faring very well and their parents are keeping a close eye on them in their travels.

And you can really see the size difference now between the chicks - definitely a male and a female.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Pense on July 17, 2013, 09:20
I suspect that this pair will not be like the family groups we have had in the past couple of years.  I suspect that we will not, or only very very rarely see them on camera again this season.  The last couple of years we have been very fortunate that the chicks returned to the nestbox pretty regularly and we could watch them for a bit longer, pretty sure that won't be the case with this pair.  We've had other nests like that - Hurricane and her band were like that ...
TPC, do you think the fact that the chicks were raised on the nestledge as opposed to the nestbox influences this or is this not a factor?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 09:46
Forecast for today in Winnipeg ...

Day - Clear in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 27C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Overcast. Low of 16C. Winds less than 5 km/h.

Looks like a nice day for the chicks to work on their flight skills with these light winds!  Problem with being able to fly is that they are hard to spot of course  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 09:49
I suspect that this pair will not be like the family groups we have had in the past couple of years.  I suspect that we will not, or only very very rarely see them on camera again this season.  The last couple of years we have been very fortunate that the chicks returned to the nestbox pretty regularly and we could watch them for a bit longer, pretty sure that won't be the case with this pair.  We've had other nests like that - Hurricane and her band were like that ...


TPC, do you think the fact that the chicks were raised on the nestledge as opposed to the nestbox influences this or is this not a factor?

No, we've had nestlings that have been thick as thieves on the ledge and in the nestbox.  Hurricane and her sibs split up pretty much right after fledging but last year, the kids returned to the nestbox all the time.  Vesper, Ty & Tupper were very tight and they were on the ledge but it looks like Hillary and Tenzing are happy to be off.  Each nest is different just as each bird is different - it's what makes them fun (and frustrating) to watch.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 17, 2013, 10:20
Have been watching the falcons fly around the top of the Delta again this morning. Haven't got a close up view, but they are definitely flying like falcons, and are a goldish black colour. There is one on East side of the lower roof right now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 17, 2013, 10:22
Is it possible these are different falcons? I can't imagine that would be possible with how territorial the peregrine's are.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: soaring west on July 17, 2013, 10:49
Love to hear that all is well with them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 17, 2013, 10:53
Not sure but one of them was just trying to land on the north west side of othe lower section of the roof, and appears to have hit the wall, but I can't see that side. It was flying upwards to the ledge and then disappeared.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: irenekl on July 17, 2013, 11:16
Closet birder, I've sent a message to TPC's email regarding your post that you think a peregrine may have hit the wall. You may have already done that but just in case.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 17, 2013, 11:20
Thanks. It would have been on the north west corner of the Delta, which would be around the corner of St. Mary's and Carlton. The other bird is still sitting up on the same corner that the one was trying to fly up to.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jan on July 17, 2013, 11:40
Oh, NO !!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 17, 2013, 11:42
FYI, it was flying very slowly upwards, struggling to make it to the upper corner, so if it hit the wall that I can't see from my window, it should have been fairly lightly. I just can't tell from here what it may have fallen down to, if that is what happened.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 12:12
Haven't had any reports via email or phone about a downed bird which is a good sign.  Now from the reports, the birds wasn't flying fast and both our birds have been flying high and low for the last few days which means they have figured out how to use their wings.

Running up and down parallel to the sides of all buildings are layers of air, some going up, some going down, its how birds manage to come in low and glide up to the top of buildings to perch - part of that is wing control, part of it is using the lift from the upward moving layers of air.  Chicks have to figure out how to do this and soft landings (no injuries) are most often the result of not catching the right uplift.  As often as not, because the chicks have already reduced speed as they are coming in to land, they have time slide down a bit then they change direction and recover and land elsewhere and try again either immediately or after awhile.  All part of the learning-how-to-fly process.  Today winds are pretty light and there are lots of buildings around the Delta Hotel for a bird with training-wings to land on. 

Upshot is,

I'll be plugged into my communications even though I have meetings this afternoon and if I hear anything, I will post a note.  If anyone sees anything or hears anything more, please feel free to page me, PM me here or send me an email.  My pager & email address can be found on the Project's website - link is to the left under my name - click on the Earth/globe icon.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 12:13
I'm going to have a buzz around with the west-side skycam and the east-side spycam to see what/who I can see where ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: MayShowers on July 17, 2013, 12:32
Hmmmm, someone in the nestledge now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: ballywing on July 17, 2013, 12:46
Princess  ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 12:47
Hmmmm, someone in the nestledge now.

One of the adults - Princess by the wingspan as I can't see the back of her head.  Not sure what she is trying to keep shaded  ::)  Might be that the chicks are nearby and if she has to sit in the sun this is where she wants to do it and how she wants to do it ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: ballywing on July 17, 2013, 13:11
Well it sure was nice to see her for a bit - hope others come back for a visit too!   :-\ - I remember a few years ago, all the kiddies came back every night to that (dang)  :P ledge - it was great!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 13:12
I'm at max zoom, but I think perhaps one of the chicks just made a pit stop on the roof of the Taylor McCaffrey building (near the Convention Centre) ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 13:13
Well it sure was nice to see her for a bit - hope others come back for a visit too!   :-\ - I remember a few years ago, all the kiddies came back every night to that (dang)  :P ledge - it was great!  ;D

That was Ty, Tupper & Vesper.  McDermot and the kids last year were the same on the west side last year ...  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 17, 2013, 13:36
I walked around the Delta about half an hour ago and didn't see anybirdy down. Did see someone, looked like a chick, flying overhead and making lots of racket as well. Bringing binoculars tomorrow for sure. Good view from 19th floor of the BDC building!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 13:42
I walked around the Delta about half an hour ago and didn't see anybirdy down. Did see someone, looked like a chick, flying overhead and making lots of racket as well. Bringing binoculars tomorrow for sure. Good view from 19th floor of the BDC building!!

These two chicks seem particularly fond of the Convention Centre area for some reason.  Perhaps this is one of Ivy's back up food cache locations and Tenzing followed him to it so they know there if food nearby or maybe they just like the variety of buildings in the area ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: burdi on July 17, 2013, 14:56
I walked around the Delta about half an hour ago and didn't see anybirdy down. Did see someone, looked like a chick, flying overhead and making lots of racket as well. Bringing binoculars tomorrow for sure. Good view from 19th floor of the BDC building!!

These two chicks seem particularly fond of the Convention Centre area for some reason.  Perhaps this is one of Ivy's back up food cache locations and Tenzing followed him to it so they know there if food nearby or maybe they just like the variety of buildings in the area ...

Interesting thoughts TPC, and thank you for the updates closet birder.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 15:31
1530h
By size, Hillary is over on the Paris Building ... so if she was the one who misjudged the landing at the Delta Hotel, then the answer is "she's fine".  If it was Tenzing, considering he's been flying for a week and tried to climb the wall back onto the nestledge, I'd be surprised if he ran into any trouble at all ... :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: ballywing on July 17, 2013, 15:39
Is that Hillary?? - Thanks TPC, LOVE that we can see this view!!  ;D  :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 15:43
Is that Hillary?? - Thanks TPC, LOVE that we can see this view!!  ;D  :-*

I can see the bird with two cams and from overhead she looks much larger - so yes, that is Hillary ... and so long as they stay close, the ledge cam can see them
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 17, 2013, 15:45
She has hopped down on the roof, looks like there is the remains of a meal from last night or this morning there ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Linder on July 17, 2013, 16:27
I was in the area of the Delta around 1:30 and of course was alerted of a falcon by the squawking sounds first and then spotted one flying between the church and the Delta. Landed on the roof. Assumed this was the female as they seem to be the most vocal in flight. Last year the female also was found in this area. Lot's of different roof elevations.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 17, 2013, 16:44
I am thrilled you have spotted the 2 chicks. Little devils

I am sorry if I sounded critical about where are the watchers??Was not intended, just missed all their reports, and comical stories :-* but I see some others are reporting and that is great. and always thanks TPC

Ours are late also so my fledge will be sketchy. I have watch at U of a starting Monday and Weber will not be another week and a half.

good luck everyone. will keep checking in
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: susha on July 17, 2013, 18:19
Just tuned in to see Hillary (?) on a rooftop (Paris building?).  She sat around for awhile, then started flapping and just took off to the left of the view (her right ;))
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 18, 2013, 08:13
Two chicks and a parent on the east side of the lower section of the Delta roof. Brought binocs today!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 18, 2013, 08:23
That's great news, cb! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2013, 09:46
Weather for today ... bit damp ...

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain in the morning, then partly cloudy with a chance of rain. High of 27C. Winds from the SSW at 5 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 40%.
Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain in the evening, then overcast. Low of 17C. Winds from the NW at 10 to 15 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2013, 09:55
Two chicks and a parent on the east side of the lower section of the Delta roof. Brought binocs today!!

Glad you remembered the binocs CB!! 
Now we have to get you to recognize the birds by size - Hillary and Princess being females are bigger than Tenzing and Ivy ...  ;D
And if you can see leg bands - Ivy's black band is on his right leg, Princess' black over green band is on her left ...  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 18, 2013, 10:20
glad you saw two chicks closet birder :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 18, 2013, 13:07
All 3 are on Delta ledge again. One is lying down. So cute!! Binocs not powerful enough to see leg bands though.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2013, 13:23
All 3 are on Delta ledge again. One is lying down. So cute!! Binocs not powerful enough to see leg bands though.

What side of the Delta CB?  I can see the Delta from the Radisson with the cams and would like to see if I can spot them ... thx  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: closet birder on July 18, 2013, 14:10
Sorry, had a conference call at 1:30. Right now, two are on the north side of the lower west section. There is a higher section in the middle, but they seem to like either the east or west lower sides better.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2013, 14:43
Sorry, had a conference call at 1:30. Right now, two are on the north side of the lower west section. There is a higher section in the middle, but they seem to like either the east or west lower sides better.   

Thanks CB - if I can see those lower sections with my cams, I now know where to look  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2013, 17:58
Just as an FYI

Last night there was an "injured hawk" was reported at 233 Portage near a fountain, however there is no fountain at or near 233 which is the Curry Building.  I'm wondering if they meant the Air Canada Building (349 Portage) or the building that houses APTN (339 Portage).  In any case, the bird was not a peregrine but rather a merlin and it is injured but being treated now by Wildlife Haven.

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2013, 20:58
Can hear thunder out in the western part of the system and looking at the radar map, we are right in the middle of the weather that Brandon had a little while ago.  Not sure if it is going to rain like it did out west, but the weather is grumbling a bit ...  watching the Brandon cam there is still sunlight on our last wall chick but dark-dark here in Winnipeg, odd to watch ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 18, 2013, 21:25
All the little birds in Winnipeg are definitely getting very wet right now ...  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Moonstar on July 19, 2013, 10:08
I bet they were on the roof of the MTS centre enjoying the Kiss concert so the rain would not have bothered them.  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 19, 2013, 10:21
One adult sitting at the west end of the ornamental facade at roof level on the Paris Building ...


Weather for today

Day - Clear in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 24C. Breezy. Winds from the WNW at 15 to 30 km/h.
Night - Overcast in the evening, then mostly cloudy. Low of 10C. Winds from the North at 5 to 20 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 19, 2013, 10:40
Had a buzz around with the west side skycam and I can see two bumps on the top roofline of the Delta Hotel on the south side down by the west end ... from this distance they look to be about the right size for peregrines but I can't see much/any real detail ... if they move it is possibly Hillary and Tenzing given how much they like that building ...

... funny thing is, the Radisson used to be the Delta Winnipeg Hotel and was so when the first wild nest occurred back in 1989.  Now the fifth generation is hanging out on a Delta Hotel again  :D

Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 20, 2013, 11:58
Weather downtown this weekend ...

Saturday

Sunday


Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 20, 2013, 12:08
Haven't seen anyone near the Radisson other than the adults so I suspect that we won't see them except maybe occasionally from here on in.  Which is good timing as the webcams will be shut down next weekend, the Radisson cam maybe a bit earlier if they need the streaming resources for other projects.  That doesn't mean the cams are shut down, just that they aren't live to the internet, we'll still keep an eye on the sites and check the recordings.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 21, 2013, 01:17
thanks to everyone here for reporting. I will continue to check in when I can. I am so glad all went well.

My watch starts MOnday
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 21, 2013, 12:07
Haven't been able to spot anyone on camera this morning but given that the chicks have been up and flying for a week and more, that is not particularly unexpected, in fact, it is what we hope for!!  :D

Just to give folks a bit of forewarning, the cams will be going offline next weekend - the Radisson cam might shut down a bit earlier though since Hillary and Tenzing have not been coming back to the nestledge ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Cooper on July 21, 2013, 13:17
At least one of the chicks was flying right over head a few minutes ago. I heard them several times this morning, but because sound bounces off all the tall buildings around me I couldn't figure out where they were.

I just now chanced to look straight up and lo and behold one of the younguns flapping and gliding right over my head!  :D

He/she circled over the Remand Centre and continued up and around over the law courts complex. Looking good!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 21, 2013, 13:48
The site to post screenshots seems not to be working, so here are some that I grabbed the day before Tenzing fledged.  I Photoshopped them to remove distractions and focus on the beauty and liveliness of the chicks.
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p698/EDBrattland/Uploads/SomethingInteresting_zps9dac4e6b.jpg) (http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p698/EDBrattland/Uploads/Talking_zpse6e90969.jpg)
(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p698/EDBrattland/Uploads/TenzingandHillary_zps12d1b35d.jpg) (http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p698/EDBrattland/Uploads/Tenzing_zpsdd2090b3.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 21, 2013, 14:13
Dagny, your photos of the juvies are indeed beautiful!
I love the second one where they appear to be chatting away to each other.
You have captured both a sense of whimsy and the magnificence of these young wild birds.
Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Cooper on July 21, 2013, 15:03
All three chicks are playing on top of 363 Broadway - the building that looks like a black, blue and green Rubik's cube. All three playing tag, kakking at each other and one of them keen on taking long flights to circle above the parking lot (under construction for the Convention Centre expansion) and beyond. There is also a parent keeping an eye on them from way up above. Really fun to watch!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 21, 2013, 15:10
All three chicks are playing on top of 363 Broadway - the building that looks like a black, blue and green Rubik's cube. All three playing tag, kakking at each other and one of them keen on taking long flights to circle above the parking lot (under construction for the Convention Centre expansion) and beyond. There is also a parent keeping an eye on them from way up above. Really fun to watch!  :)

Two chicks & 1 adult?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Moonstar on July 21, 2013, 16:09
Great photos Dagny.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 21, 2013, 16:58
The rain has been light for the last 1/2 hour, starting to get heavier now ... downtown, Ivy is on the west side nestbox which is his usual spot when it rains ... can't see anybody else on the east side of the Hotel ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 21, 2013, 21:16
The site to post screenshots seems not to be working, so here are some that I grabbed the day before Tenzing fledged.  I Photoshopped them to remove distractions and focus on the beauty and liveliness of the chicks.

Yes! Beautiful photos, Dagny! :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Cooper on July 22, 2013, 08:29
All three chicks are playing on top of 363 Broadway - the building that looks like a black, blue and green Rubik's cube. All three playing tag, kakking at each other and one of them keen on taking long flights to circle above the parking lot (under construction for the Convention Centre expansion) and beyond. There is also a parent keeping an eye on them from way up above. Really fun to watch!  :)

Two chicks & 1 adult?

Haha! Well, when I was watching them I "saw" three chicks. It only occurred to me as I was driving home right after I posted that there couldn't have been three chicks, one of the "players" had to be a parent! You wouldn't have known from the shenanigans though. I'm thinking that perhaps it was Ivy with food.

In any event, I saw a total of four birds. At one point there was parent high in the air watching over a venturesome young flyer, and two "chicks" (now realizing this must have been the other chick and other parent) atop the building.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 22, 2013, 10:52
Weather for today ...

Day - Overcast with a chance of rain. High of 21C. Windy. Winds from the NW at 20 to 30 km/h. Chance of rain 50%.
Night - Partly cloudy in the evening, then clear. Low of 12C. Breezy. Winds from the North at 10 to 20 km/h.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 22, 2013, 10:55
Haha! Well, when I was watching them I "saw" three chicks. It only occurred to me as I was driving home right after I posted that there couldn't have been three chicks, one of the "players" had to be a parent! You wouldn't have known from the shenanigans though. I'm thinking that perhaps it was Ivy with food.

In any event, I saw a total of four birds. At one point there was parent high in the air watching over a venturesome young flyer, and two "chicks" (now realizing this must have been the other chick and other parent) atop the building.

Figured it must have been something like that Cooper - amazing how much information we can take in while we are driving and dodging pedestrians!!  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Cooper on July 22, 2013, 15:24
Well somebody is doing a lot of flying downtown this afternoon. Watched what I assumed was one of the chicks (due to the intervals of flapping and gliding and his/her coloration) flying above the the parking lot under construction (despite all the work and racket going on there), the rubiks cube building, over the woodsworth, the remand centre, the law courts, back around and around those areas and then east for some more circling, sometimes so low and speedy past and behind those buildings that my heart was in my mouth. Then she/he made such a perfect landing atop the aerial/tower on the Chateau 100 building that I wonder if it wasn't a parent I'd been watching. Somebody's sure getting their exercise! Kakking all the way too!  :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 22, 2013, 22:44
What a great report, Cooper! Very descriptive! Could almost imagine being there myself. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 23, 2013, 08:44
Weather for downtown today ...

Day - Partly cloudy. Fog early. High of 23C. Winds less than 5 km/h.
Night - Overcast. Low of 13C. Winds from the West at 5 to 10 km/h shifting to the SSW after midnight.

light winds today and not too hot, nice day for peregrines to play ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Mother Hen on July 23, 2013, 10:12
Sure do miss watching all the action now that I have retired.....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 23, 2013, 10:24
Sure do miss watching all the action now that I have retired.....

With the little terrors nesting on the east-side, you may still have missed much of the action this year I'm afraid Mother Hen ... even worse, you would have still been working!!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Dagny on July 23, 2013, 12:28
I saw three birds around 2 minutes ago, playing around one of the highrises on Smith.  Two were playing Tag and the third was sitting on the top of the building watching over them.
 :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bev. on July 23, 2013, 21:22
Sure do miss watching all the action now that I have retired.....

that is why I do not see you. I miss your reports.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 24, 2013, 08:51
Weather for today ...

Day - Overcast in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 24C. Breezy. Winds from the SW at 10 to 20 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of rain in the evening, then overcast with rain. Low of 16C. Winds from the NW at 10 to 15 km/h. Chance of rain 60% with rainfall amounts near 5.8 mm possible.

**according to the radar, there look to be small thunderstorms on almost all sides of Winnipeg, and looking at the black clouds in the west, probably going to get rain today as well as tonight ...


I'll be stopping the weather updates when the cams go off at the end of the week ... all the chicks should be up and flying by then and less influenced/impacted by all but severe weather ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 24, 2013, 14:58
1458h - one of the chicks is napping on the ledge edge by the drain cover - very cute!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Doreen on July 24, 2013, 15:16
Nice to see he/she napping on the ledge.  :D

(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n506/DoreenHebert/FullscreencaptureWedJul2430558PM.jpg) (http://s1137.photobucket.com/user/DoreenHebert/media/FullscreencaptureWedJul2430558PM.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 24, 2013, 15:18
1458h - one of the chicks is napping on the ledge edge by the drain cover - very cute!

I think it is Tenzing but it's hard to tell by the way s/he is lying down ... seems too small to be Hillary ..
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 24, 2013, 15:57
Thanks, Doreen, for the ledge shot.  It is nice to see somebirdy home for a bit.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Linder on July 24, 2013, 23:17
Was downtown this evening around 8:00 and saw two land one after the other on the SW corner of the Delta on the highest point. Came in very nicely and with no problems. Our fledglings are getting the hang of it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 25, 2013, 09:57
Forecast for today ...

Day - Overcast with thunderstorms. High of 19C. Winds from the North at 5 to 20 km/h. Chance of rain 90% with rainfall amounts near 11.7 mm possible.
Night - Overcast with rain. Low of 11C. Breezy. Winds from the North at 10 to 25 km/h. Chance of rain 60%.


I'm going to leave the cam on the ledge in case Hillary or Tenzing come back to visit like they did yesterday ... haven't seen them at the nestbox on the west side yet but if they turn up there, I'll switch over if I can ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 25, 2013, 11:24
11:20am
Looks like one of the chicks is on the nest ledge, I think it's big enough to be Hillary.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: RCF on July 25, 2013, 11:32
Just a short video of the chick on the ledge doing a bit of a wing stretch.

http://youtu.be/wa2WUtPd91E (http://youtu.be/wa2WUtPd91E)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Jazzerkins on July 25, 2013, 11:34
Good video RCF.  Lucky you, your cam view seems to be running fine, while mine is "stuttering". 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 25, 2013, 15:24
For those who haven't heard Winnipeg is under a tornado watch ... seriously what is going in on with the weather recenfly   ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 26, 2013, 09:45
Forecast for Friday ...

Day - Partly cloudy in the morning, then clear. High of 18C. Breezy. Winds from the NNE at 15 to 20 km/h.
Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 10C. Winds from the North at 10 to 15 km/h.


Some of you may have noticed that there appears to be something over the ledge edge at the bottom of the image on the cam, that is a piece of flashing from the roof that has come loose - if flaps on and off periodically.  I have let the Hotel know in case they are planning some work on that side of the building after the birds have left.  Is it dangerous?  No, its basically just thick paper ... but it does show what could happen if we put a nestbox on there that we couldn't maintain in some way ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 27, 2013, 08:36
0837h - Haven't seen either of the kids today but Princess has been hanging out on the nestledge in the morning sun since 0514h ... she looks very relaxed ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 27, 2013, 22:02
(http://www.pbase.com/image/151546243/medium.jpg)

This photo came to us from Daniel R who took this photo of Tenzing (I believe) - photo taken out the window on the 26th floor of the Radisson (facing south).

Pretty bird - thanks Daniel!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Linder on July 27, 2013, 22:35
Great picture. Thank you to Daniel for knowing about our peregrines and taking the time to forward to you.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 27, 2013, 23:38
What a great photo of Tenzing! :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: GCG on July 28, 2013, 05:01
This photo is beautiful, thank you Daniel! Beautiful falcon with scenic view of Winnipeg as its background.  :-* Worthy of praise from Dennis.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: burdi on July 29, 2013, 13:32

What a beautiful photo catch from Daniel, hope he may find the opportunity again!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 29, 2013, 14:57
Ivy had a very interesting little visit to the nestbox today.  Not unusual for him to visit at least once a day, but today he launched himself into the box and was completely undercover, not sure anyone could see him from the "outside".  Not sure if he was doing ... then he came out and parked himself on the box edge and has been there for the last hour.

Can't say he is a boring bird to watch ...  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 29, 2013, 15:44
would he be making a scrape already for next year?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: GCG on July 29, 2013, 16:20
 ;D We could only hope that he is laying a scrape for next year to warn off other PF. Radisson belongs to the Radisson Royals. :-*
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 29, 2013, 17:45
would he be making a scrape already for next year? 

He does scrape at this time of the year, but more a pair-bonding, site-dominance display than actually planning for next year.  Next year is after all a long time from now!  Hopefully Princess will get back a little earlier and she won't have other women (Joli & Jules) in her "house" ...  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: bcbird on July 29, 2013, 18:12
If he's making a scrape in the nest box, he must hope that Princess will drop in to remind herself of this better choice for next year!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: sparkster on July 29, 2013, 19:50
Lucky Daniel, having young Tenzing outside his window. He is a very fine looking peregrine falcon. With Ms Princess nesting on the ledge this year, we have not had many close-ups of the Radisson family. Thank you for sharing the photo.

I hope Ivy can convince Princess, if they are together, to return to the nest box next year. The ledge was just too stressful!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: Kinderchick on July 29, 2013, 22:32
I was wondering, TPC, if either of the Radisson fledglings have ever visited the west nest box since fledging? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on July 30, 2013, 09:21
I was wondering, TPC, if either of the Radisson fledglings have ever visited the west nest box since fledging? ???

I haven't seen them there but I haven't been through all the recordings yet ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / July
Post by: photosbydennis on July 31, 2013, 19:10
This photo is beautiful, thank you Daniel! Beautiful falcon with scenic view of Winnipeg as its background.  :-* Worthy of praise from Dennis.

In the right place at the right time...congrats Daniel, well done  ;D
Cheers !
Title: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 03, 2013, 08:11
Ivy and Princess have been hanging out frequently on the nestbox and the nestledge so I suspect that Tenzing and Hillary are starting to hunt on their own.  The kids will still be around and the parents will still hang out with them and provide food but the kids will be going further afield on their own now.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: soaring west on August 03, 2013, 09:31
Thanks TPC, after all the worry about the nest site this year, glad that all things have turned out.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Kinderchick on August 06, 2013, 17:54
Was driving home through the downtown area today around 4:00 PM and heard the familiar sound of peregrine falcons squawking. Looking skyward, I noticed the 2 fledglings flying high above the Provencher Bridge. Pretty sure it was Hillary & Tenzing by the colouring.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: bev. on August 07, 2013, 11:46
that is great that you are stil seeing them
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 07, 2013, 13:45
Ivy and Princess are both on the Radisson right now - she is on the nestledge, he is on the nestbox.  Haven't seen a chick around and neither of the parents are fussing or appear to be trying to watch over chick.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 07, 2013, 19:23
For the first time in what seems like a very long time, Princess is on the nestbox!!!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Feather2Fin on August 07, 2013, 22:28
That is great news about Princess - better late than never.  Perhaps it will encourage her to return to the nest box next year.   

I did not see anyone from West Winnipeg when I was around that vicinty in the last few days.  I usually see at least one peregrine, sitting on the corner. Is it just me or does it seem really quiet the last few days. Feels like an early fall.  I wonder if the birds are thinking the same thing!?  :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 10, 2013, 14:20
Had a visit at the nestledge from Tenzing yesterday about midday ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Jan on August 12, 2013, 12:38
Over the last couple of weeks, I have had 4 visits on my balcony from, I believe, Ivy (green tag on left leg).  Gets my attention from all the loud yaking!  Wonderful to see!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 12, 2013, 14:49
Over the last couple of weeks, I have had 4 visits on my balcony from, I believe, Ivy (green tag on left leg).  Gets my attention from all the loud yaking!  Wonderful to see!

Sorry Jan, no green on Ivy (even though his name is green-ish).  So who might your visitor be?  If the bird is dark slate-grey/almost black and white/off-white and there is green on a leg band like the photo below (thanks Feather2Fin) - then likely your visitor is Smiley.  He is from Grand Forks and has a black over green legband, not a colour combination we use here in Manitoba. Click here for more info on Smiley. (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/topic,3438.msg95035.html#msg95035) 

(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a570/Pam2506/Identifying%20Peregrines/2013-08-03_zps7134c1ba.jpg)

If your visitor looked like the bird below then your visitor was likely La Peregrina one of the female chicks from West Winnipeg. (the bird in the photo has tape on its right leg, but La Peregrina has it on her left)  The green in this case is electrical tape and will come off in the next few months. (thanks PhotosbyDennis)

(http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/image/145185685/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Jan on August 13, 2013, 11:45
Looked a lot like Smiley but I don't recall the black band over the green.  Maybe he will come back & I can have another look.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 13, 2013, 16:37
Looked a lot like Smiley but I don't recall the black band over the green.  Maybe he will come back & I can have another look.  Thanks.

Often the feathers high on the legs cover the top part of the band so it can be difficult to see the black.  At present there are no only green leg bands in use for peregrines, so dollars-to-doughnuts that its a black over green band.  Hope "he" comes back and that you get a second look at his feet - good luck!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Feather2Fin on August 13, 2013, 23:19
Over the last couple of weeks, I have had 4 visits on my balcony from, I believe, Ivy (green tag on left leg).  Gets my attention from all the loud yaking!  Wonderful to see!

That behavioural description sounds like Smiley.  He used to come to my balcony but since I took his photo and the flash went off (I hadn't planned for that to happen), he hasn't been back.  I'm curious if he is still around.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Jan on August 15, 2013, 11:58
Had another wonderful visit from "Smiley" this morning.  Quite sure now that it is Smiley as I saw part of the black legband over the green on his left leg.  He sure makes a lot of noise to alert me he has arrived!  Have 2 balconies but he always lands on the smaller one.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Kinderchick on August 16, 2013, 14:32
You & F2F are very fortunate to have these visits from Smiley, Jan. 8) How long does he hang around? I wonder if he's eyeing the Radisson nest box? :-\
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: Jan on August 17, 2013, 14:07
He doesn't hang around too long - maybe 5 mins. - but he knows I'm on the other side of the glass.  It's a real treat for a few minutes!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 26, 2013, 18:57
1845h - was just watching Ivy on guard on the nestbox edge and Princess entirely preoccupied with cleaning her toes on the nestledge.  Methinks Ivy brought home the pigeon tonight but Princess isn't interested in bowing and making scrapes on the sunny side of the building in this heat.  Smart bird - too hot and humid to want to do much of anything right now!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / August
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on August 31, 2013, 15:14
1515h - There is a severe thunderstorm watch for Winnipeg but nothing so far, still 28C/82F right now but it seems the humidity is dropping.  On the nestledge, Ivy is on the drain cover preening and alternating between watching and napping lightly.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: Kinderchick on September 05, 2013, 16:17
Was walking in the downtown area today around 2:00 PM & spotted a peregrine falcon on the east nest ledge. :D Couldn't tell for sure which one it was. I didn't have my binocs with me, unfortunately.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: RCF on September 07, 2013, 19:41
This is a little late but someone on BCAW posted a video of Hillary fledging.

http://youtu.be/tmF8KeEG1zI (http://youtu.be/tmF8KeEG1zI)
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: bev. on September 16, 2013, 16:46
are Ivy an d Princess still in area
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 17, 2013, 09:53
are Ivy an d Princess still in area

I'm afraid I haven't been to connect to the cams at the Radisson for about a week which usually means our connection with our computer has been disconnected - usually is by mistake.  Usually Ivy stays around until about this time, maybe a wee bit later so I suspect he is still around.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: ballywing on September 17, 2013, 18:06
I saw somebirdie today around noon - Sitting on the north facing Rogers sign  ;D
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: Kinderchick on September 18, 2013, 08:17
Wow! That's great to hear, bally! :D
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: Pam on September 18, 2013, 14:02
Saw a bird on the ledge earlier today - no guess as to who!
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 18, 2013, 15:34
According to the CBC Manitoba Twitter feed there has been an explosion down near the Radisson Hotel ...

1527h - Emergency crews at 200 block of Portage Ave. Police say it appears some sort of equipment exploded. Debris on sidewalk

1530h - More on Portage Ave. explosion: 1 person has minor injuries at this time, say police
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 18, 2013, 15:36
Just had some rumbles of thunder as well ... sounds like the storm that hammered western Manitoba earlier today may be about to visit Winnipeg ...
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 18, 2013, 15:54
According to the CBC Manitoba Twitter feed there has been an explosion down near the Radisson Hotel ...

1527h - Emergency crews at 200 block of Portage Ave. Police say it appears some sort of equipment exploded. Debris on sidewalk

1530h - More on Portage Ave. explosion: 1 person has minor injuries at this time, say police

Explosion in/at the Sterling Building across the street from the Radisson Hotel ...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/blast-shatters-window-in-downtown-winnipeg-building-1.1859720
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: Kinderchick on September 18, 2013, 18:27
Explosion was right next door to LaBamba restaurant, where we occasionally dine. Scary. :o
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: birdcamfan on September 18, 2013, 20:49
Wow, that must be spicy Mexican food!
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: bev. on September 19, 2013, 00:18
Wow, that must be spicy Mexican food!

you crack me up
but seriously, that is terrible. Hope birdies are O.K. Will have to check the news



Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on September 19, 2013, 09:07
but seriously, that is terrible. Hope birdies are O.K. Will have to check the news

There have been no further updates so looks like it was just an accident, perhaps something like a steam line blowing out during maintenance or repairs.  Enough force there to break glass.  No danger to the peregrines.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: bev. on September 19, 2013, 09:16
funny how I always think of the peregrines when a  bad stormy hits etc. I gues becasue we have seen how vulnerable they are.

I read about the blast. thank goodness it was not too serious
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: soaring west on September 19, 2013, 13:33
glad to hear that everyone is safe.
Title: Radisson - 2013 / September
Post by: Kinderchick on September 24, 2013, 15:40
Spotted a peregrine falcon on the east nest ledge when driving through the downtown area toward west Winnipeg just past 10:00 AM today. :D
Title: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: GCG on October 05, 2013, 09:03
11 days since the last post. Certain that our Radisson Royals are on route to their winter destinations.  :(
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Cooper on October 08, 2013, 15:27
I don't know about that gemcitygemini.  Birdy spotted on the west nest box at 2:30 this afternoon. Possibly Ivy, although I'm not positive about that. It could also be an interloper! He/She seemed quite comfortable there - remained the whole time I was wandering downtown (about half an hour at least).
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: ballywing on October 09, 2013, 00:01
Somebirdy at Portage & Main yesterday according to this blurb on the Global website!  ;D

http://globalnews.ca/news/887114/photos-falcon-drops-in-for-breakfast-at-global/
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 09, 2013, 09:49
Somebirdy at Portage & Main yesterday according to this blurb on the Global website!  ;D

http://globalnews.ca/news/887114/photos-falcon-drops-in-for-breakfast-at-global/

Bird in the photo has a black over green band so could well be Smiley or it could be Sandy or it could be another visitor from the US passing through on migration.  I have contacted Global in hopes of getting a higher resolution photos to see if I can figure out who it may or may not be.  Will let you all know.

Thanks for posting this Bally!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Moonstar on October 09, 2013, 10:13
Awesome photos.  Lucky people.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 09, 2013, 14:07
Beatrix from 2011 just turned up today in West Winnipeg much to Dennis' and Wowser's delight.  She's still small it seems but she looks like her mom (Princess).  She is also the first of Ivy's and Princess' kids to be confirmed to make it through the first 12-18 months.  And it seems that she has inherited her father's hunting abilities - Dennis watched her catch small birds/insects over and over and over again - fast, agile and very efficient.

for more information, check out this post on the West Winnipeg board (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/topic,3523.msg95479.html#msg95479)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 09, 2013, 15:10
Dennis watched her catch small birds/insects over and over and over again - fast, agile and very efficient.

Not small birds but rather large insects ...

Dennis was looking through his photos and it was bugs Beatrix was hunting so diligently - Giant Water Bug (Lethocerus americanus) in fact - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lethocerus_americanus

I thought they would be kind of nasty tasting so I talked to a wetland naturalist and she too thought they would be bitter tasting.  Obviously not, or not to Beatrix at least, from Dennis' description, she was targeting the GWBs specifically and this location has lots of other food options available for her if she wanted it.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: closet birder on October 10, 2013, 12:18
So does that mean she is likely on her way south from a location north of Wpg? Wouldn't make sense she came up here from somewhere south at this time of year.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 10, 2013, 13:36
So does that mean she is likely on her way south from a location north of Wpg? Wouldn't make sense she came up here from somewhere south at this time of year.

Not necessarily, peregrines are not that north-south/east-west in their movements I'm afraid.  We have had birds moving great distances in all directions in short periods of time only to return to their starting point a few days later.  If she had been in a city or regularly around a town, likely someone would have read her band number and reported it to the proper authorities and we would have been notified about her by now. Given her age, she could have spent the last year anywhere on the Canadian Prairies or even in the US Midwest.  Given what we know about non-breeding peregrine behaviour, she mostly likely has been hanging out at a favourite wetland (like Lily did in the Minot area) or she was moving between wetlands.  And we have lots of very large and many, many smaller wetlands in this part of the country - parts of Alberta, much of Saskatchewan, much of southern and central Manitoba and parts of North Dakota, Minnesota and South Dakota are in the Prairie Pothole Region which has literally millions upon millions of small pothole wetlands in agricultural lands that are perfect for nesting waterfowl.  It would be as simple as deciding what you like to eat and hopping from wetland to wetland snacking as you go. 

And it is not unusual for us to spot birds in town at this time of the year that we haven't had reports on at any other time or from any other location.  Ones that we know about include Madame from Cedar Rapids, Sandy from Fargo, Smiley from Grand Forks, Luck from Brandon, Ty from the Radisson and now Beatrix from the Radisson.  Before the webcams and Dennis' cameras, there were probably others that over the years we just couldn't catch/identify!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on October 10, 2013, 22:07
Was driving west through the downtown area around 1:00 PM today when I spotted a peregrine falcon perched on the east nest ledge. :D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: ballywing on October 11, 2013, 12:49
Saw Somebirdie surveying the kingdom from the West Nest Ledge at high noon today!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on October 11, 2013, 16:24
Any news of the ID of the PF spotted outside a Global Newsroom window a few days ago, TPC? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 11, 2013, 20:57
Any news of the ID of the PF spotted outside a Global Newsroom window a few days ago, TPC? ???

I've had a couple of photos emailed to me, but all I can say is that it is a black over green band but can't say if it is Smiley or not.  Another black/green past visitor is Sandy, so could be her or could be an entirely unexpected bird, like Beatrix ... I'm hoping to get a few more photos ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: susha on October 12, 2013, 23:14
Would be so awesome if Beatrix set up housekeeping somewhere in Winnipeg next year ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Jazzerkins on October 14, 2013, 10:21
Is it possible that Beatrix has been having trouble catching birds, so she has resorted to catching the Giant Water Beetles for food? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 14, 2013, 11:25
Is it possible that Beatrix has been having trouble catching birds, so she has resorted to catching the Giant Water Beetles for food? ???

No, if she had problems catching birds she wouldn't still be alive, the peregrines need a lot of fuel, can only go a couple of days without food before dehydration starts to kick in, another day or two before their systems start feel the lack of food.  She's made it through two full years, four migrations and she looks great and she wouldn't have been able to do all that if her hunting skills weren't good.  In fact, the fact that she can catch Giant Water Bugs (they are bugs, not beetles) on the wing is a pretty good demonstration of how good her hunting skills are - granted they aren't speedy flyers but they aren't big either.  When I've been on the road at this time of the year, I've found them dead on sidewalks in towns in southern Manitoba, but I don't know anything about their lifecycle so maybe this is the time they start flying looking for ??? and the opportunity for slow, small protein packs was just too good for her to miss.  Back in the early 1990s, we had lots of grasshoppers and I watched fledgling chicks hunt them like crazy around their hack site, so insects are not new menu items, just more opportunistic menu items for those who want to take advantage of them.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 14, 2013, 15:21
Eye-Spy sorted the problem with our cameras at the Radisson and what do we see on the ledgecam - a bird with a black/red band and with the spycam another bird - an adult, male it looks like.  No peak at his/her band yet ... could be transients roaming through or maybe Cowboy & Joli or Smiley and someone else from the US or or or ... who said all the fun is in the spring!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 14, 2013, 17:47
Okay, two US birds, both have purple anodized bands on their right legs - one is black/red, the other black green.  Haven't been able to get close to their band numbers, light isn't great today and neither of them have been cooperative.  The bird photographed by Global a week and a week ago was also black/green.  These two birds were scraping and bowing to one another on the nestledge ( :o ::) like we need more complications at the Radisson!!) so they may know each other in which case it might be a pair we haven't met yet.  Or it could be Smiley (black/green) and an unknown female (black/red) or maybe even Smiley and Joli (black/red).  With luck they will hang around for a couple more days and with the Radisson webcams back up and operating and some sunny weather we might get another look at them!

Thank you Eye-Spy for the cams & Dennis for bringing Wowzer on our road trip today!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on October 14, 2013, 22:28
... who said all the fun is in the spring!!!  ;D
Sounds like lots of action down at the Radisson these days! LOL! ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 15, 2013, 09:38
This morning, Smiley is playing house in the nestbox ... he's been there a couple of times already, once before the sun came up for about an hour and his lady friend joined him, then after 0830h.  So far as I can tell, she hasn't joined him in the nestbox yet, but from his "work" yesterday on the nestledge, he stands a good chance of convincing her ... which could mean a confirmation on her band number yet ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: susha on October 15, 2013, 20:43
Can't wait for spring and the dramas that will be unfolding!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 16, 2013, 10:08
Can't wait for spring and the dramas that will be unfolding!

So long as it is just drama and not anything more serious (or bloodthirsty!)  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 16, 2013, 10:16
1013h - two birds on the east side of the Radisson right now - pretty sure it is Smiley down on the nestledge napping in the sun and the American female (which might be Joli) up on the Radisson sign.  Hoping she will give me a peak at her band number again today, yesterday her band was spun around so all I could see was the rivets!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 16, 2013, 11:21
Okay, young love and all that  ::) ... it is Smiley and Joli who are on the Radisson right now ... it's a good thing that Ivy, Princess and especially Cowboy aren't in town right now  :o  Susha maybe quite right and there may be considerably more drama next spring than we would like ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on October 17, 2013, 18:58
So where has Smiley been hanging out while Joli & Cowboy were together this past summer? If I recall correctly, he & Joli were an "item" before Cowboy & Joli. And now he & Joli are an "item" again. Has Smiley been hanging out in Winnipeg all this time, waiting for Cowboy to move on? Or has he been somewhere else & now he is passing through town again? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 18, 2013, 10:43
So where has Smiley been hanging out while Joli & Cowboy were together this past summer? If I recall correctly, he & Joli were an "item" before Cowboy & Joli. And now he & Joli are an "item" again. Has Smiley been hanging out in Winnipeg all this time, waiting for Cowboy to move on? Or has he been somewhere else & now he is passing through town again? ???

Yup, he's been sighted periodically on a building near Pam's within the Radisson territory (Other sightings downtown (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/topic,3438.msg95035.html#msg95035)) and most recently was the Global TV bird (reported here on Oct 9th (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/topic,3529.msg95474.html#msg95474))
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 18, 2013, 10:55
Smiley and Joli are still playing house at the Radisson - she had breakfast on the ledge about 0930h but don't know if Smiley caught it for her, I suspect he might have because I spotted him after she'd left with the head which is the best part of the bird for the peregrines so I can't imagine she would have left it for him if she'd had it. 

In any case, they tend to hang out on the nestledge side of the building though they will drop by the nestbox but it appears not for as long which is interesting since the nestbox was their preferred location in the spring and was possibly part of the reason that Princess chose the ledge in the end. 

I don't think Joli is going to "leave" Cowboy if he returns next spring, I suspect that she is like Ivy, a bit of a "flirt" (to put it mildly) and her default is the "date" whoever is around.  Joli "dated" Ivy, then Smiley then Cowboy.  Ivy dated Jules, then Joli then Princess.  Next spring may be very interesting ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: bev. on October 18, 2013, 13:33
very interesting.

hope there is no drama next spring. It is always a nail biting time . for us, all season was nail biting.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Dagny on October 18, 2013, 15:50
Why is the head the best part of the bird? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: susha on October 18, 2013, 17:46
I didn't know that either!  Thought it wasn't any good since the parents always snap it off before dropping off a meal...don't they?  Or do they take the best part for themselves before feeding the kids?   ??? ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: RCF on October 18, 2013, 18:17
Why is the head the best part of the bird? ???

It's brain food!  ;D  ;D  Just a bit of humor.  ;)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 19, 2013, 23:25
Why is the head the best part of the bird? ???

Can't say why peregrines think the brains are the best, but you mostly see the head come off right at the start or you never see the head at all.  Males when they bring food to their mates will often leave on wings and legs which don't have any "meat" so to speak but the head will be missing.

It's brain food!  ;D  ;D  Just a bit of humor.  ;) 

Not wrong, the food is the brain, just not sure it improves peregrines' brain power, but some would argue that peregrines don't really need much help in that department ... well maybe a couple do when it comes to their choice of nestsites but ...  ::)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: RCF on October 20, 2013, 08:31

Can't say why peregrines think the brains are the best, but you mostly see the head come off right at the start or you never see the head at all.  Males when they bring food to their mates will often leave on wings and legs which don't have any "meat" so to speak but the head will be missing.

I guess some of the heads I see on the ground at the McKenzie site would be lost treasure for the peregrines.  I do recall seeing the Brandon chicks picking away at the occasional head left in the nest box by the parents.   ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on October 20, 2013, 11:54
As an aside, I know that when the wandering "outdoor" cats in our neighbourhood go after the baby squirrels in the spring, the first thing they do is remove the head & chow down. Not a pretty sight. :P
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 20, 2013, 11:54
Can't say why peregrines think the brains are the best, but you mostly see the head come off right at the start or you never see the head at all.  Males when they bring food to their mates will often leave on wings and legs which don't have any "meat" so to speak but the head will be missing.

I guess some of the heads I see on the ground at the McKenzie site would be lost treasure for the peregrines.  I do recall seeing the Brandon chicks picking away at the occasional head left in the nest box by the parents.   ;D

Maybe some brains are nicer tasting than others?  Not even going to think about how one would test that though  :-X
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Jazzerkins on October 20, 2013, 17:14
I understand that in Belgium, rabbit brains are considered a delicacy and family members often fight over who gets it at meals times.  Yuck.  To each his own, I guess.  Not for me.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: dupre501 on October 20, 2013, 17:51
Must be October - Brains, brains (the zombies call)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: birdcamfan on October 20, 2013, 18:29
Maybe they instinctively know that brains are a rich source of nutrition as they are made up of a high concentration of fatty acids. Brings a whole new meaning to the term "fat head"  ;D.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on October 20, 2013, 23:45
Maybe they instinctively know that brains are a rich source of nutrition as they are made up of a high concentration of fatty acids. Brings a whole new meaning to the term "fat head"  ;D.

LOL! Good one bcf! ;D
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 22, 2013, 08:49
This morning it is raining/snowing and it looks particularly miserable on the east-side nestledge except for the pretty little bird sitting there doing a little preening in the damp.  Something about watching a peregrine with snow on its head ... I wonder if this will be the last day we see one or both of these two birds ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 24, 2013, 11:12
1112h - Whichever of the US birds is on the east side sigh (they have their back to me) they are either very hungry or in a mad hurry.  They are ripping apart a northern flicker with more, let's say, enthusiasm than I think I have ever seen a peregrine rip apart anything!   :o  And tucked up on the slash almost like they are afraid they will have to share.  Maybe the weather over the last couple of days and migration are making choices fewer and harder to catch.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 24, 2013, 11:24
This is a very nervous bird ... hopefully I'll get a look at the band ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 24, 2013, 11:28
.... nope, took off with the remains of its meal like a gunshot ... not behaviour I would expect to see from Smiley who has been around all summer and certainly not from Joli who will never be considered a shrinking violet, even in peregrine terms.  I could see a purple anodized band on the bird's right leg but not so much a glimpse of the colour on the left leg (Joli is black/red, Smiley is black/green) but I did get a decent look and some screen captures of the bird's right side facial patterns, which could help, but only if the bird returns ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: bev. on October 24, 2013, 13:00
wow, still seeing falcons.

have been away but maybe I should go and check our sites.

but you are further south and closer to USA
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 27, 2013, 11:10
Still have Smiley and who I thought could be Joli (band colours were right but couldn't see numbers) in the west-side nestbox as of yesterday afternoon "playing" house.

This morning, have only seen Smiley at the nestbox (where I could see his band) but did see a male and female on the nestledge but too far away to even see if they have bands. 

Given the date and who has been here the last month, it is most probably still Joli hanging out with Smiley but I'm going to see if I can't catch a peak at her bands if she will cooperate today ... not likely but worth a try at least ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: photosbydennis on October 27, 2013, 13:54
Did confirm today around noon (by band #) that Joli was having lunch with a friend (black over green band confirmed)...a strong wing and a split second take off didn't provide a clear band # other than black over green...can only assume that it was Smiley since TPC has a positive of him on the Radisson.
Makes me wonder just how long this late season romance will continue ??
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: bcbird on October 27, 2013, 23:04
What if they stay all winter??!!

Didn't Madame overwinter in her day?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 28, 2013, 09:00
What if they stay all winter??!!

Didn't Madame overwinter in her day?

She did - from 1990 to the mid 2000s.  If they stay all winter, next spring is going to be very very interesting ...  :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 28, 2013, 15:15
I think perhaps that Joli has left ... Ivy has been on the nestbox most of the day and he hasn't been bowing or calling to anyone all day.  He visited the nestledge very briefly early in the day, but he was alone then too ... will keep an eye on him ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: photosbydennis on October 28, 2013, 19:24
Did you mean Smiley   ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 28, 2013, 19:30
Did you mean Smiley   ???

Nuts, yes, Smiley NOT Ivy ... sigh, Mondays ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 29, 2013, 12:32
Only one bird yesterday at the Radisson, one this morning and now two - both on the east side.  Smiley is on the ledge (confirmed), other bird is on the sign, but don't know who it is ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Cooper on October 30, 2013, 09:20
And somebirdy was sitting on the logo on the east side Hydro building around about 3:00 p.m. yesterday. Smallish, so guessing a male.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 30, 2013, 10:13
Both birds sitting in the sun right now on the east side of the building.  Looks like Smiley on the ledge (his breast is whiter) and I think Joli sitting up on the sign ... going to watch "her" feet to confirm ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on October 30, 2013, 11:31
Both birds sitting in the sun right now on the east side of the building.  Looks like Smiley on the ledge (his breast is whiter) and I think Joli sitting up on the sign ... going to watch "her" feet to confirm ...

Yup, definitely Joli and Smiley hanging out at the Radisson ... they have been doing some very very thorough preening today, for about the last 90 minutes and they are both sitting on the sign in the sun which I haven't seen them do much - not the close together part, but rather the preferring to sit in the sun rather than on the ledge/in the box - so comfort rather than their "courtship" rituals.  Might be a precursor to leaving ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: closet birder on November 01, 2013, 08:59
Yesterday around 6 PM, I heard two falcons across my street in the Assiniboine forrest. By the time I dragged my dog outside for a walk, one was flying south, and the larger bird was sitting on top of a telephone pole making the usual screeches, but also a lot of quieter chips/peeps. Pretty sure they were Peregrines, but I now know merlins sound similiar, so could have been them. I was able to get right up to the pole, but the light was already too dim to make out the markings. Then he/she flew off. Pretty neat!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 01, 2013, 22:16
Smiley was still at the Radisson today but I haven't checked the video so can't say if Joli was ... will review the recorder tomorrow and report on whether it appears she is still around.  Smiley's not been calling or bowing or scraping which might be an indication ...

Yesterday around 6 PM, I heard two falcons across my street in the Assiniboine forrest. By the time I dragged my dog outside for a walk, one was flying south, and the larger bird was sitting on top of a telephone pole making the usual screeches, but also a lot of quieter chips/peeps. Pretty sure they were Peregrines, but I now know merlins sound similiar, so could have been them. I was able to get right up to the pole, but the light was already too dim to make out the markings. Then he/she flew off. Pretty neat! 

I think perhaps you did have merlins CB just because of the where the bird was perched.  I know the area and it would be lower than the adults like to get but telephone poles are particular favourites of merlins right across the city, that an merlins are woodland falcons whereas the peregrines are open air - high over the cities, low over fields and wetlands.  I've also been getting reports on merlins observed/heard in the Moray to Shaftesbury area as recently as last week ... could well be your birds!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: photosbydennis on November 05, 2013, 18:17
While passing through downtown around 2:30 today a lone bird came in from the East...went behind the Radisson then up towards the towers and made a circle and back down behind the hotel...perhaps he/she set down on the ledge or sign on the East side...that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Cheers !
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on November 09, 2013, 21:26
Unbelievable that there is still a peregrine falcon hanging around town. :o I guess we won't hear anything of Tenzing or Hillary since neither of them were banded, nor do they have a GPS monitor. Hopefully,  one of them will return to the area in the Spring. :)
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 09, 2013, 22:23
On November 7th, we were cleaning out the nestbox for the winter and Smiley was hanging out alone on the east side of the Hotel.  Dennis managed to get a couple of very nice photos of him, he was, for a peregrine, quite cooperative. 

Smiley is still around, he was hunting and feeding on the nestledge again today though I did think while I was watching the snow fly past the cameras that perhaps he won't be here for much longer ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: susha on November 11, 2013, 08:55
Perhaps he plans to tough out the winter and be the first to (try to) lay claim to the nestbox in spring ??? ???
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 12, 2013, 17:00
Perhaps he plans to tough out the winter and be the first to (try to) lay claim to the nestbox in spring ??? ???

Who knows ... we'll just have to wait and see ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 12, 2013, 17:00
Smiley has been on the nestledge eating a couple of times today and roosting on the signs in the sun much of the rest of the day ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: bcbird on November 12, 2013, 19:49
It is now later than ever since Madame for a Peregrine to be seen downtown?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 13, 2013, 21:34
It is now later than ever since Madame for a Peregrine to be seen downtown? 

Could very well be, not sure I can remember who else had been here late - Sandy for sure, but I don't remember when I last saw her that autumn ... will do a little snooping ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 18, 2013, 18:26
Smiley is still in town, he brought a light lunch back to the ledge this afternoon ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: susha on November 18, 2013, 20:19
And here we are with snow on the ground!  Are the cameras on all winter, TPC?
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on November 18, 2013, 22:31
Smiley is still in town, he brought a light lunch back to the ledge this afternoon ...

Holy smokes! I was sure he'd be gone after these frigid temps & this snowfall! Me thinks he may have plans to move in downtown! Yikes! Don't want to imagine what might happen come Spring if he decides to winter in Winnipeg! :o
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: dupre501 on November 19, 2013, 13:05
Interesting that Smiley is still in town. Thanks for keeping us updated!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 20, 2013, 15:22
Smiley is still around ... caught him playing in the nestbox in the snow ... actually, he was eating a pebble from inside where the snow is absent ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: Kinderchick on November 23, 2013, 21:51
Smiley still around, with this deep freeze? ??? Maybe he is going to winter here!
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 24, 2013, 20:36
Smiley still around, with this deep freeze? ??? Maybe he is going to winter here!

Saw him on the recorder yesterday morning ... haven't seen him today yet though ... maybe he's finally gotten the hint ....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: bev. on November 27, 2013, 22:48
love Smiley but the thought of things to come ????

HOpe he goes where it is a bit warmer
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on November 28, 2013, 19:02
love Smiley but the thought of things to come ????

HOpe he goes where it is a bit warmer

Pretty sure Smiley has finally left ... haven't seen him or any sign of him on camera for the last 3 days .... if I don't see him again by December 1st, will assume he has gone and start up the countdown timer ...
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: sparkster on November 29, 2013, 18:35
That is very good news. I hope he has gone south. I think it is a rare occasion when everyone is happy to not see a falcon!  :) 
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: The Peregrine Chick on December 04, 2013, 17:38
Checked the recording and last sighting was the morning of November 28th - Smiley spent an hour on the nestbox.  Haven't seen him or sign of him since.
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: dupre501 on December 04, 2013, 19:15
Let the countdown begin....
Title: Re: Radisson - 2013 / Oct - Dec
Post by: ballywing on December 05, 2013, 18:05
Oh, I hope he's gone south!!! - would hate to think of him here all winter, especially when it gets down to the minus twenties and colder!!!! :-\