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Manitoba Peregrines => Logan Peregrines => Topic started by: birdnut on April 19, 2011, 10:56
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The birdies(whoever they are) are hanging around HSC again this morning... Both birdies were on the usual letter at 7:00 this morning for about an hour.
And somebirdie(the male by size???) was sitting on the the HSC smoke stack wiring about 10 min ago, but he/she flew off to the west.
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The birdies(whoever they are) are hanging around HSC again this morning... Both birdies were on the usual letter at 7:00 this morning for about an hour.
And somebirdie(the male by size???) was sitting on the the HSC smoke stack wiring about 10 min ago, but he/she flew off to the west.
Hmmm, according the cam, Ivy and Princess weren't far from the nest for long between 0600 and 0800 so think this was probably Beau and Jules a-wandering ... they did this same thing last year during courtship ...
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Out for a lunchtime walk: no birdie here at 11:30...some birdie up on his /her favorite "J" now at 12:20 ish.
Making lots of noise, but I only saw the one bird.
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1435 hrs
Dennis was at HSC watching who he is pretty sure (without binocs or camera) are Beau and Jules playing around on-the-wing. Down onto their favourite building then off and up and away and around and back then way-way up high and then out-of-sight.
I checked the cam at the Radisson while I was chatting and Princess was in the midst of trying to shove Egg & Eggette underneath her and from the way she keep alerting to something outside the box, pretty sure Ivy was not far away.
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Somebirdie is sitting on the smoke stack at HSC at 9:49.
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He/she is still sitting on the smoke stack at HSC - enjoying the sunshine.
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Dennis was out roaming about and thinks he spotted on of the West Winnipeg birds at the Crow's Nest, but only one and no way to tell who for sure ...
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7:45 p.m. Friday - somebirdie sitting on his/her favourite "J" at the HSC.
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Dennis and I spent the last couple of days chasing the West Winnipeg peregrines and trying to confirm whether or not they are ones being seen so regularly at HSC. They do get wanderlust during courtship but its been bugging us. But we couldn't come up with a reason for the WW birds not to be in WW unless they were at HSC. We have one now. We have a new pair in town. Meet Cowboy and Kate. Cowboy is a 2000 wild-hatch from Brandon who was last seen in 2002. Kate (or rather Katherine) is a 2005 wild-hatch from Fargo and there have been no reports of her since she fledged. We have no idea if this is their first year together or if this is just their first year together here.
For two peregrines "in love", these two are very quiet and secretive which is behaviour I have observed in the past when a pair has nested in the Radisson territory. We don't know where/if these two will nest but we be keeping an eye on them and if we can help them out to make nesting this close to the Radisson a little less stressful, then we will try. But it will depend on the birds and where/if they decide to nest.
More news as we have it.
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Didn't Birdnut often see peregrines at the HSC last year? Possible these 2 were there last year too, and you folks just thought it was one of the other 2 pair?
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Cowboy's family tree
hatched at the McKenzie Seeds Building in Brandon
parents are Mufasa (released in Brandon 1991) and Phoebe (hatched at the Radisson in 1991)
Mufasa was a captive-bred bird from the CWS facility in Alberta, Phoebe is the offspring of Pop & Maud and a sister of T-Rex, aunt of Trey.
Cowboy's siblings (known to have survived/nested) include: Rebel (Saskatoon 1996-98), Ja (Winnipeg 1997), Zeus (Brandon 2002, 2004-06, 2008-09, 2011), Simba (Radisson 1998-99), Tramp (Regina 1999), Keener-Screech (Brandon 2007) and Lady (Moose Jaw 1999)
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Didn't Birdnut often see peregrines at the HSC last year? Possible these 2 were there last year too, and you folks just thought it was one of the other 2 pair?
Nope, those where birds migrating through. They were bandless and didn't stay to nest. (good memory though)
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Kate's family tree
proper/full name: Katherine
hatched from the First National Bank (now Bank of the West) in Fargo, North Dakota
parents are Dakota Ace (1997 Sioux Falls SD) and Frieda (2001 Dairlyand Coop Alma WI)
Dakota Ace was a captive-bred bird released and Frieda was a wild-hatched female. Dakota Ace is still the resident male in Fargo.
Kate's siblings (known to have survived/nested) include: Holly (Brandon 204-08), Lewis (Minnesota 2005 & 2010), Dakotah (Sartell, 2005-09), Bear (Grand Forks 2007-08) and Roosevelt (2009-10).
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Interestingly - Kate and Cowboy share a common ancestor - MF-1 the famous Minneapolis resident female. Maud our first resident female at the Radisson is one of MF-1's kids and it is through Maud's daughter Phoebe that Cowboy is related. MF-1's son Malin is the father of Gamma is the father of Frieda who is Kate's mother. So Cowboy is a Great Grandson of MF-1 and Kate is her 2nd Great-Granddaughter.
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What, not siblings or parent/child ?
Odd........
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What, not siblings or parent/child ?
Odd........
'Fraid not :)
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So are you seriously telling us there is a new courting couple involving a Kate who may possibly be breeding, just about a week before another well-publicized union involving a Kate is due to take place? I would think William might even have been described as a bit of a cowboy at times.
So here's to our royal couple!
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This is exciting news, indeed. ID bands sure let us in on a lot of history.
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Our Cowboy is definitely not a William ;)
Cowboy gets his name from his band number, his origins and his flight skills.
His band number is C over sideways Y, so CowboY.
His origin is "out west" and Brandon does have the famous Royal Winter Fair
His flight skills - both Dennis and I were mightily impressed when he launched himself after dropping off food for Kate. Very slick little flyer - a rider of the winds so to speak ;D
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How large is this triangle of three nesting pairs in Winnipeg? I'm not sure of the geography.
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Wow..this is wonderful news!!!
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The site has a great food supply. There are loads of peregrine Kraft dinner just north at the rail yards. I imagine that HSC will be very happy if they keep the pigeon population down as pigeons are a constant unwelcome presence near the hospital.
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This is great news. It's amazing to know the bird's family tree. Thanks Tracy for keeping such great records so we can can know their lineage. ;D
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That's great news to hear!! 8)
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Cowboy ...
His flight skills - both Dennis and I were mightily impressed when he launched himself after dropping off food for Kate. Very slick little flyer - a rider of the winds so to speak"
Wow, he must really be something - they all seem to fly so impressively. Looking forward to seeing him. Well both of them.
Thanks for the info!
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Is this worrisome for Princess and Ivy?
Also, are there more peregrines then usual and is that a good sign for their survival?
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You'd think this would be easy to answer ...
Is this worrisome for Princess and Ivy?
Doesn't appear to be and hasn't appeared to be with other Radisson pairs when it has happened twice in the past. The Radisson is the dominant site, so it appears, whoever holds it, is the dominant pair in the City. From what we have seen, the resident birds force out the interlopers - Princess pushed Sandy out but Sandy was actually at the Radisson. Where Cowboy and Kate are is in the territory but not as close as pairs have tried before. And from what we have seen of Cowboy's and Kate's behaviour, they appear to understand that they are perhaps too close. Princess and Ivy have four eggs and appear to be incubating solidly and without agitation and there is no way they don't know Cowboy and Kate are at HSC. So am I worried about Princess and Ivy, not at this point, they are solidly in command of the Radisson and Cowboy and Kate look to be too occupied with their own activities at other sites. But of course, we'll watch over them all.
Also, are there more peregrines then usual and is that a good sign for their survival?
'Fraid not for me. An exciting possible sign that once we the S Winnipeg site back in operation perhaps we will have birds around to take advantage of it though, which is an optimistic sign (to me at least). Here are some of my questions about the longevity of Cowboy and Kate in Winnipeg:
- We had two pairs in the City in the early 1990s and they were solid. Then the Radisson male disappeared and the remaining male ditched the wife and moved downtown (sound familiar?).
- When we have had second downtown pairs they only lasted a year each, possibly because it was just too stressful to be so close to the Radisson pair and raise young.
- Beau and Jules are new at this still and while we would love to think they will be as successful as last year, this is Jules' fourth year here so her track record isn't that stellar. And if she hadn't found Beau, she could have gone off to where there were more men to choose from or where a new man led her.
- We have also seen some unusual activity among all our pairs - they have all been sharing a hunting location without any apparently out-right hostility but that may have to do with a long cool spring and lots of water, there just isn't lots of waterfowl/waterbirds back yet (or so it appears).
- Cowboy is 11 years old and Kate is 6, they are both well into breeding age and no one has seen these birds for years - Kate since she fledged, Cowboy since he was 2. Perhaps they have been breeding elsewhere and couldn't go back or felt they couldn't go forward without more food available and have decided to take their chances here in the City where pigeons are always present (and most present downtown)
When we have had pairs move into new territories and last, they come back younger and stay ... T-Rex came back the year after hatching and was rock-solid and usually the first bird home each year; Trey was in town for two years before he took over the Radisson; Ivy was in WW then the Radisson; 9/3 and Sherpa were males-in-waiting who would have easily taken up with any available females in the years they were here. Burnsie hung around even after T-Rex left her as did Jules post-Ivy and even Madame didn't leave after she was pushed out by Princess. Those birds taking up residence would make me wonder if we would have a solid 2nd/3rd pair. This may just be a sabbatical year for Cowboy and Kate, we will just have to see what happens since we just don't know for sure why they decided to take their chances this year so close to the Radisson.
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Thanks for all the info, Tracy. Fascinating. It will be so interesting to see how this all plays out.
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What she said... :)
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I hope Dennis got some photos. :-* 8)
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Did a drive by of different sites from about 10:00 am to 11:00 am or so,
didn't notice any of the peregrines. Easy to stop almost anywhere to look about from the car. The fact I didn't see any means very little of course - but had been hoping. Need to get going earlier.
Happy hunting.
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Thanks for the pics, Dennis :-* 8)
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Did a drive by of different sites from about 10:00 am to 11:00 am or so,
didn't notice any of the peregrines. Easy to stop almost anywhere to look about from the car. The fact I didn't see any means very little of course - but had been hoping. Need to get going earlier.
Happy hunting.
Keep in mind they are being secretive, we have had to come back a second time to find them - surprisingly easy for a peregrine to hide itself when it wants to ... mostly they don't "want" to so its nice to be forced to use all the "old" observational skills ...
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You'd think this would be easy to answer ...
Thank you, Tracy. It may not have been easy but it was very interesting and informative.
After several years following our birds and being on the forum, I realize there are always more questions.
Luckily, we have TPC.
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Possibly another nesting pair in Winnipeg! :o Wow! That's great news! ;D I don't check the Forum for 24 hours and I miss all of the excitement! ;) Giddy up, Cowboy! 8)
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Yup. :-\
Giddy up?? Okay. :-\
Didn't know falcons could giddy.......... ???
Hmmmm, :-X
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Giddy up?? Can peregrines be giddy ?? up or down??
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So, if, they can be giddy up or giddy down, how does the cowboy stay on?
And what happens to the tassles? :-\
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So, if, they can be giddy up or giddy down, how does the cowboy stay on?
And what happens to the tassles? :-\
well now Alli, not so sure how to tell you about tassels :-\ :-\ Go gypsy ;D
hat stays on because it has the under the chin idiot string.
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Okay, BOT folks ;)
Not sure if Birdnut has Easter Monday off, but I hope she doesn't, would love to know what our newest pair are up to this fine morning.
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And before anyone asks, I'm doubting it, the magic shelf is almost empty.
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Gallery for the HSC Birds has been started, this could be an exciting year :)
http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/hsc
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Thanks Dennis, great photos and amazing to see another falcon pair in the city.
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Not sure if Birdnut has Easter Monday off, but I hope she doesn't, would love to know what our newest pair are up to this fine morning.
Yep, I had Easter Monday off...
working late this week .. no birdies around at 9:05.
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some birdie - Cowboy??? sitting on the HSC smoke stack
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Spotted one on the red letter just before 2:00. He/she flew toward the smoke stacks. I parked, then sure enough, one was on the horizontal bars between the stacks and the antenna. Bird seemed very large, but hey, it's been a long winter with lots of sparrows. Bird took off toward the Buhler Centre - couldn't see, but heard some squawking then nothing audio or visual.
At one point I was at the corner of Notre Dame and Emily, and it was amazing to see The Radisson nest apparently so close - well peregrine-close. I would have been able to see Princess or Ivy if they'd been on the edge of their nest. And actually the peregrines' spot by the smokestack is certainly blocked from the Radisson nestbox.
Yikes, 'tho!
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At 5:10ish, one bird (Cowboy by size) was sitting on the smoke stack. Kate was sitting on the J on JBRC building.
I went and did a errand and came back to check on them at 5:30. Kate was still on the same spot - Cowboy had moved over to the rooftop of the Buhler building just over her head. Cowboy then took off to the north and disappeared over the main hospital building, Kate followed a minute later. I go home north over the Arlington street bridge, pass the Federal Lab building. One of the birds was sitting on the Lab building, took off across Arlington and disappeared further north. I got stopped by a red light on the south side of the bridge. As I was sitting there, all of sudden the pigeons on the railway cars all took off at once. I didn't see the falcons again, but I am guessing, some birdie was looking for supper.
My daughter and I have spotted what looked to be a falcon on the Federal Lab building in the last 2 weeks on 3 other occasions, just didn't think that it could be our peregrine.
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I would have been able to see Princess or Ivy if they'd been on the edge of their nest. And actually the peregrines' spot by the smokestack is certainly blocked from the Radisson nestbox.
Yikes, 'tho!
Good observation Des... ;)
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No spotting of the birds during the day yesterday at all at HSC. But at 8:45 p.m.last night, just as it was getting dark, one of the birds was sitting on the Federal Lab building overlooking Arlington Street. He/she looked very much like he/she was on guard. I took a picture with my cell phone, but its very grainly and not very good. He/she was sitting on the same spot at 9:00 this morning.
One of my co-workers (she said to call her Red Bird) saw just one of the birds this morning before 8:00 up on the letter J at HSC.
Only seeing one bird at a time since Monday - is Kate sitting on eggs somewhere? On the Fed Lab building?
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No spotting of the birds during the day yesterday at all at HSC. But at 8:45 p.m.last night, just as it was getting dark, one of the birds was sitting on the Federal Lab building overlooking Arlington Street. He/she looked very much like he/she was on guard. I took a picture with my cell phone, but its very grainly and not very good. He/she was sitting on the same spot at 9:00 this morning.
One of my co-workers (she said to call her Red Bird) saw just one of the birds this morning before 8:00 up on the letter J at HSC.
Only seeing one bird at a time since Monday - is Kate sitting on eggs somewhere? On the Fed Lab building?
Not sure they have been together long enough to have eggs yet, but we are working to find out. And your (your's and Red Bird's) observations are helping!
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I've been at HSC all week and have not seen them. I spent a long time in the Tecumseh parkade looking because from the roof you can see the virology lab, Buhler building and the rooftops. No luck!
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Maybe we could tell the po-leece that we need the heli-cop-ter for an hour or so. Maybe trade them some donuts........
Or CJOB traffic helicopter..I see her flying overhead daily.
Somebirdie sitting on the Fed Lab building, same spot as last two days, this morning 9:00 a.m.
Took pictures but they turned out very grainy...
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11: 00 ish
Looks like Kate sitting on the Fed Lab building, watching the pigeons go by.
Cowboy was on the J on the Buhler building. but he didn't stay long. took off to the north.
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Kate was sitting on the Fed Lab building just before 9:00 this morning, looking like she was not bothered by all the noise down below - the street cleaners were making a lot of noise and blowing up a lot of dust.
No sight of Cowboy there or at HSC this morning.
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With this variety of sightings, is it likely that they are hanging around but not nesting, or does anyone have suspicions of egg laying having happened?
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Well they have been doing the :-[
New photos have been added http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/hsc
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Well they have been doing the :-[
Great photos Dennis! ;D
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7:45 p.m. Tuesday night - both birds were sitting on the Fed Lab building
no sightings this morning at HSC or Fed Lab
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With this variety of sightings, is it likely that they are hanging around but not nesting, or does anyone have suspicions of egg laying having happened?
We've been checking buildings but so far nothing. We have one more they are showing interest that will get checked this week. Its not a building we have ever been on, so no idea if they have started without us. We do have an idea for one of the sites we have checked, not sure what to do about another one (fortunately not a front-runner). We'll just have to see what we find on this next roof but it looks like a possible. Unfortunately, not our decision so we'll have to help out where we can and leave Cowboy and Kate to let us know what they decide to do.
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1:00 ish
Kate is up on the Feb Lab building, snuggled up against one of the walls to protect herself from the wind.
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These two are still narrowing down their options ::) - more news when we have it.
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Cowboy and Kate were both hangin' at HSC this morning - each on their favorite letters.
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Thurs 5:00 ish
Both birds were at HSC for about 1/2 hour.
Friday 9:00 ish
Looks like Cowboy sitting on top of the Buhler building. Some birdie had breakfast here this morning - lots of feathers and remains on the ground down below where the smokers stand for their morning coffee/smoke break.
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Thurs 5:00 ish
Nuts, that's like Oh-Dark-Thirty! :o
(love being able to reference the Phanatics' Dictionary so early in the year)
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Looks like Cowboy by the size...been sitting on the HSC smokestack for most of the afternoon. He was sitting there for about an hour - took off for awhile -
now he is back again.
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Looks like Cowboy and Kate will be nesting at the Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health this year. They laid one egg on a low roof which is not visible to the Radisson. We also found evidence that there had been another egg there (an eggshell) but no indication what might have happened. The rocks on the roof are standard roof rocks which mean they are too big for a proper scrape so we put a nest tray (ie: tuppernest) at the nestsite made a scrape in proper size gravel and moved the egg. A check of the site today and it looks as though they have been in the box but incubation hasn't begun so we will just have to see what happens.
It could be that their egg is not viable and they won't lay anymore. It could be that this is egg two and three and perhaps four are on their way over the next few days. We will check again next week to see what happens. This is a new pair so we don't know what is usual for them so all we can do is wait (impatiently) and watch.
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NOTE:
Anyone going by the Centre, please note that this is a secure federal facility.
There is no public access to the grounds and no photos of the buildings are allowed.
The Centre is very enthusiastic that the peregrines might be nesting on their roof this year. But please be aware that the grounds are private property and security, regardless of what you are doing or why you are there, is going to do their job.
So that you can enjoy your visit with the peregrines, please play by the rules.
Thanks!
TPC
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Okey-dokey, watching and waiting and playing by the rules here!
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Thank you for looking out for this pair TPC and for putting in a nest to help them out! Let's hope it takes :-*
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Looks like Cowboy and Kate will be nesting at the Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health this year. They laid one egg on a low roof which is not visible to the Radisson. We also found evidence that there had been another egg there (an eggshell) but no indication what might have happened.
This is very egg-citing news! :D And how appropriate for them to be nesting on a centre for animal health! 8) ;)
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Thank goodness the tuppernest has been tried before. Great idea to place one here. TPC, you are just too smart!!
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Good work, TPC.
I'm very happy to think of another Tuppernest in use.
It was great fun watching the "Great Escape" on the ledge of '09.
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Are there plans for a spy camera for this pair, TPC & E-S? :-\
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Are there plans for a spy camera for this pair, TPC & E-S? :-\
Not sure what we are going to be able to do for this pair yet, not all buildings (believe it or not) have the infrastructure we need where we need it. We are tossing around a couple of ideas but we will just have to see. Having said that, the peregrines have been nesting successfully in Manitoba since 1989 and mostly we didn't have "eyes" on them so its not like they can't raise a family without us peering at them electronically all the time. But it sure is helpful from our perspective!
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Dennis and I are thinking of referring to Cowboy and Kate as the CSC birds just cuz its easier to pronounce than CSCHAH ...
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... peregrines have been nesting successfully in Manitoba since 1989 and mostly we didn't have "eyes" on them so its not like they can't raise a family without us peering at them electronically all the time. But it sure is helpful from our perspective!
I hear ya, TPC. LOL! ;)
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A few photos have been added to the HSC / CSC gallery.
http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/hsc
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Drove by the CSC lab this morning - what a clean, white, sterile-looking place - no doubt the look they were planning for, with good reason.
I look forward to phanatics sitting around the perimeter on comfy lawn chairs with our Tim Hortons breakfasts -binoculars, spotting scopes, and camera(s) bigger than a small child - perhaps they'll invite us all in - or perhaps we'll get to see people in uniforms and ...
Wait a minute ...I didn't mean fanatics! Will someone please explain to these nice officers?
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Seriously tho'
I did get to see both falcons at the Buhler Centre around 11:00. First one was perched on the J on the east side overlooking the little parking lot. After watching for a while, then walking to other possible vantage points within a block or so, I returned to find the other falcon on the south east corner of the building just above J. This was quite a treat to see the 2 of them so close to each other. After maybe 5 minutes, the one on sentry took off flyng to (as I recall) up and maybe SSSE, but certainly up, up, and away. Waited about 5 minutes before leaving. Other one still on the J.
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Sunday - My mom is the one who got me into bird watching so I thought I would give her a mother's day treat...
We came by the Buhler building about 1:00 just to see if either bird was about...sure enough some birdie was sitting on the J. She/he took off just as we were watching and flew by in front of the car so my mom could get a good look at her/him. It was the first close up sighting for my mom.
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We still only have one egg at CSC as of this morning's check and it doesn't look like Cowboy or Kate are ready to start incubating yet. So, we will just have to keep an eye on them and see what they decide to do. They have been back to the nestsite so we know that (so far) they haven't abandonned the site. Maybe this wet weather will help them along, fortunately, its not cold and wet rather warm and wet so no harm should come to the egg over the next little bit.
More news as we have it ...
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Some birdie is on the HSC smokestack again this morning.
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Sunday - My mom is the one who got me into bird watching so I thought I would give her a mother's day treat...
We came by the Buhler building about 1:00 just to see if either bird was about...sure enough some birdie was sitting on the J. She/he took off just as we were watching and flew by in front of the car so my mom could get a good look at her/him. It was the first close up sighting for my mom.
That's wonderful, birdnut! :D
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Isn't it just wonderful! :)
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Both birdies are here at HSC at 9 this morning - one on the roof - one on the J
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Looks like Cowboy's and Kate's first nest has failed. They appear to have fully abandonned their lone egg. The egg was confirmed last Wednesday and was at least the second egg laid. Now they are back to their routine when they first arrived, hanging out at all their favourite places but HSC in particular. So don't know if they are revving up for a second attempt or not - and yes, there still is time for a renest, particularly since they appear to have lost their nest in the early stages. And because we don't know them, can't even gauge what they might do based on their behaviour.
We're back to waiting and watching again folks.
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Hopefully things will work out for these two and they will have babies. :-*
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Looks like Cowboy's and Kate's first nest has failed...
Aw... that's too bad. :( Hopefully they will have time to renest this season.
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So, the lone egg is not viable at all? How sad!
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Is the egg not viable now or could it be incubated? Probably not the thing to do but had to ask? ???
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Looks like Cowboy's and Kate's first nest has failed.
That really is too bad. :(
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So, the lone egg is not viable at all? How sad!
Is the egg not viable now or could it be incubated? Probably not the thing to do but had to ask? ???
We found the egg on Wednesday last week, hoped to see an egg on Friday but didn't but that could have just meant not laid yet. By Monday no additional eggs so pretty much sure they weren't laying any more this time around. Not knowing Cowboy's or Kate's backgrounds (other than their origins) hard to know what, or even if, they have had a successful breeding history. Also don't know what their response is to human presence so we are leaving the site alone at this point in the hopes that they might decide to come back here to try again if they are of a mind to. We know they have been back in the nest-tray so that's a good sign but it's still watch and wait.
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Both birds were sitting up on their favorite letters on the Buhler building at 9:05.
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Thanks for the answer TPC. Makes good sense.
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Both birds have been hanging around HSC all morning - right now they are on the HSC smokestack.
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Anything new going on here? Just wondering!!!!
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Not really. Birds are hanging out at HSC but that seems to be it at the moment. Didn't want to check the nestsite during the rainy cool weather, better just to leave everyone to do what they are or aren't going to do when its like that.
Their first nest appears to have failed. If they nest again, wherever they nest again, it takes a couple of weeks to get back on track - need to go through copulation and nest scraping again. Hope to go up this week though as the weather will be warm and dry.
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Cowboy is sitting up on the J of the Buhler building this morning at 9:00.
There is now a crow's nest with 4 eggs in it in the trees along McDermot Ave within view of the Buhler letters facing the east.
I was off on Friday, but other staff saw both Cowbay and Kate here all day on
Friday in the rain.
Since about Wednesday last week, every time(4x a day) I drive by the Fed Lab building, it looks like the pigeons have taken it over again. I have not seen the falcons there at all.
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Some birdie sitting on the HSC smokestack this morning - with Daddy crow sitting on the nursing building keeping a eye out.
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Some birdie spending time up on the HSC smokestack again this morning.
I have not seen the two of them at the same time since Monday...Kate look to nest again???
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Thanks for all of your updates, birdnut. :)
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Still only seeing one bird at a time - whoever it was, spend the day flying back and forth between the letters on the Buhler building and the HSC smokestack. Neither place can be very cool - both are in direct sunlight all day long.
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If you are only seeing one at a time, I wonder?????eggs somewhere
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8:00 -Some birdie up on the J of the Buhler building again this morning.
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Same report today as yesterday - only one birdie at a time - he/she takes turns flying between the HSC smokestack and the letter "J."
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Neither Cowboy nor Kate were at HSC this morning and no sign of any nest on the suitable buildings on campus. No sign at CSC either, just pigeons. Did find them at the Crow's Nest, way west of where we have been seeing them recently. They had been hunting so maybe just not ready to go back to HSC or CSC yet.
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A sure sign Kate and Cowboy are not around HSC - a pigeon was on Cowboy's favorite letter J this morning.
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Dead giveaway!
Or should I say "not dead giveaway"?!? Get it? Not dead? Because if Kate or Cowboy was around, it'd be...
Never mind ::)
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Dead giveaway!
Or should I say "not dead giveaway"?!? Get it? Not dead? Because if Kate or Cowboy was around, it'd be...
Never mind ::)
I like it !!!
Still no sighting Tuesday PM or this AM.
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Dead giveaway!
Or should I say "not dead giveaway"?!? Get it? Not dead? Because if Kate or Cowboy was around, it'd be...
Good one, susha! ;)
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Some male birdie Cowboy??? Ivy?? was up on the Buhler letters at 4:00 p.m.Thursday. That's the first sighting of any bird this week.
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I drove past the virology lab and there perched on the front roof was somebirdy surveying their kingdom. I assume it was one of the HSC pair.
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Are these two a young pair. Maybe they are not ready to nest.
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Some male birdie Cowboy??? Ivy?? was up on the Buhler letters at 4:00 p.m.Thursday. That's the first sighting of any bird this week.
It would be Cowboy I think, from what I have seen, Ivy's staying a bit closer to home right now ...
Are these two a young pair. Maybe they are not ready to nest.
Don't know if Cowboy and Kate have been together for long but he is 11 years old and she is six years, so not young birds and they did know what they were doing, even though they chose a poor location - it was pretty much the best location in the area.
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Are these two a young pair. Maybe they are not ready to nest.
Cowboy is a 2000 wild-hatch from Brandon who was last seen in 2002. Kate (or rather Katherine) is a 2005 wild-hatch from Fargo and there have been no reports of her since she fledged. We have no idea if this is their first year together or if this is just their first year together here.
Maybe they are just being careful. LOL
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maybe this is honeymoon year for them. ;D ;D
I bet it just nice seeing them this year.
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I'd be plenty happy with them coming and trying again since, if it's on a roof I can see, I can go and watch anytime (I work at CSCHAH). :) I'd been seeing peregrines around on my way to and from work.
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any sign of the couple
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any sign of the couple
In the area but doesn't look like they are renesting ... but we do keep looking :)
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Various staff people have told me they have seen the falcons sitting of the letters of the Buhler building, but always only one at a time and never for very long.
When I drive by the Fed lab building, lot of pigeons are about, so I guessing the falcons are not spending as much time there either.
Some other site must be more appealing.
I have not seen them for over a week.
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...I have not seen them for over a week.
Aw... that's too bad, birdnut. :( You could be right, they may have found another location that they like better.
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Cowboy and Kate are both still around but they don't seem to be nesting ... or at least not that we have found yet ...
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For the first time in three weeks, some birdie is sitting on the Buhler building this morning. From the size of the bird and where he is sitting, I suspect it is Cowboy.
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...From the size of the bird and where he is sitting, I suspect it is Cowboy.
;D 8) :-*
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I walked over the Arlington Bridge last night and there were maybe a dozen pigeons in the area... I figure Cowboy and Kate have to be around somewhere to have such a low pigeon count on the bridge.
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Anybody heard anything about these two? Do you know if they are still in town, TPC? ???
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Anybody heard anything about these two? Do you know if they are still in town, TPC? ???
Not for sure. Over the last couple of weeks I haven't seen them, but I also haven't been out "their" way in a bit. No recent sightings from HSC either ... will see if I can't do a drive-by this weekend ...
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Anybody heard anything about these two? Do you know if they are still in town, TPC? ???
Not for sure. Over the last couple of weeks I haven't seen them, but I also haven't been out "their" way in a bit. No recent sightings from HSC either ... will see if I can't do a drive-by this weekend ...
You've been too busy doing other things TPC, you need to take some time off for yourself. :)
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I walked over the Arlington Bridge last night and there were maybe a dozen pigeons in the area... I figure Cowboy and Kate have to be around somewhere to have such a low pigeon count on the bridge.
I have noticed a huge drop of pigeons at the rail yard this year too. This is the first year they haven't dropped doo doo on my car! Maybe they are making the area less pigeon friendly.
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Tracy is it possible these 2 re-nested?
If so there might be some chicks out there that we don't know about.
Has that ever happened, that there were nesting birds you didn't know about?
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...Has that ever happened, that there were nesting birds you didn't know about?
I'm pretty sure, Doreen, that if there are/were nesting peregrines with chicks anywhere in Wpg. that both Tracy & Dennis would know. ;)
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...Has that ever happened, that there were nesting birds you didn't know about?
I'm pretty sure, Doreen, that if there are/were nesting peregrines with chicks anywhere in Wpg. that both Tracy & Dennis would know. ;)
Well I have to agree with you Kinderchick that TPC and Dennis would Know, maybe Cowboy and Kate didn't like the weather here or the digs didn't suit them. :)
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Tracy is it possible these 2 re-nested?
If so there might be some chicks out there that we don't know about.
Has that ever happened, that there were nesting birds you didn't know about?
Given the surprises this year, I'm not willing to say "no" for sure! Actually we should have seen them much more regularly if they had re-nested and we didn't, so we are pretty sure they haven't. But it would be very cool if they did and we caught them in time to band the chicks ;D
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I "really like" that wishful thinking TPC. That would be such a bonus to a rough year for the Manitoba Peregrines. Wow, what excitement that would be! :o
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Tracy is it possible these 2 re-nested?
If so there might be some chicks out there that we don't know about.
Has that ever happened, that there were nesting birds you didn't know about?
Given the surprises this year, I'm not willing to say "no" for sure! Actually we should have seen them much more regularly if they had re-nested and we didn't, so we are pretty sure they haven't. But it would be very cool if they did and we caught them in time to band the chicks ;D
That would really be cool! ;D
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Tracy is it possible these 2 re-nested?
If so there might be some chicks out there that we don't know about.
Has that ever happened, that there were nesting birds you didn't know about?
Given the surprises this year, I'm not willing to say "no" for sure! Actually we should have seen them much more regularly if they had re-nested and we didn't, so we are pretty sure they haven't. But it would be very cool if they did and we caught them in time to band the chicks ;D
That would really be cool! ;D
Ditto to that! :)
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After not being around the HSC for weeks, somebirdie has come back to visit us this AM.
It looks like an adult male from the size and colour, but who are you?
Radisson male come to visit??? Cowboy back for the view????
He has been sitting on the H in John of the John Buhler sign on the east side since about 7:30.
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That is good news, birdnut! :) But I wonder which bird it could be?
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Some birdie(same one as yesterday???) was sitting on the east facing Buhler side again last night at about 4:00. By this time of the day the sun is gone and he has a great view of the pigeons. Nobirdie around this morning, but the sign is in the bright sunshine.
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I love to hear that there are falcons perching in so many locations is Winnipeg! Very encouraging! LOVE IT!!!
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We went a-wandering yesterday and no sign of anyone at CSC or HSC or the Crow's Nest, so it may be that Cowboy and Kate did leave us when the prey returned and that its one of the Radisson or West Winnipeg birds taking a break. We ID Jules at this location in the spring so we know she goes there. I'm inclined to say it was a Radisson bird, though we haven't been able to ID them by their bands here this year - Jules and Beau continue to be in their territory pretty consistently since the start of nesting.
Its a bit early for birds from away to be turning up, give it another month, month-and-a-half and then it could be a resident bird or a traveller.
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Could it even be one of the Radisson juvies, TPC? :-\
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Could it even be one of the Radisson juvies, TPC? :-\
Juveniles & adults look very different so if the shape was visible but no detail, it could be. Not sure that that would be the case though, the kids seem to prefer to hang around with others, not by themselves at a somewhat hidden location ... could be though, we'll have to see if anyone can get a decent look at the bird when/if it next appears ...
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I am pretty sure the bird here last week was an adult. Even from the ground, you can see he/she was blue not brown with a very white chest. He/she was there 3 evenings last week after 4:00 ish when the sun has passed over head and the sign is in the shade of the building.
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I am pretty sure the bird here last week was an adult. Even from the ground, you can see he/she was blue not brown with a very white chest. He/she was there 3 evenings last week after 4:00 ish when the sun has passed over head and the sign is in the shade of the building.
I was pretty sure it would be an adult given what we have seen of fledgling behaviour at this time of the year. Thanks for the confirmation Birdnut!!
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Whoever birdie is was back again last night about 5:30.
This morning the sign is sparkling in the sunlight: no birdie.
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I'm thinking one of the Radisson Birds are the ones to stop by ???
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I'm thinking one of the Radisson Birds are the ones to stop by ???
That's what I was thinking too, Dennis, because it's only a short distance, "as the peregrine flies". ;)
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Some birdie was here again at 7:00 last night at HSC. I am guessing the same visitor as last week. Same size and definitely an adult with a bright white chest.
Good hunting ground for a late night snack.
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Some birdie was here again at 7:00 last night at HSC. I am guessing the same visitor as last week. Same size and definitely an adult with a bright white chest.
Good hunting ground for a late night snack.
Could be Ivy, his breast shows the most white of the 4 resident birds ...
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6:15 last night - one bad bird at HSC.
He/she was up on the usually letter "j", but what was unusual was that he/she was facing the wall. Some birdie must have been misbehaving and got sent to the corner to face the wall for awhile.
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That's too funny, thanks for reporting this. Wonder who it was?
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That's great, Birdnut -- love the image!
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6:15 last night - one bad bird at HSC.
He/she was up on the usually letter "j", but what was unusual was that he/she was facing the wall. Some birdie must have been misbehaving and got sent to the corner to face the wall for awhile.
Love your description, birdnut! :D
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10 Aug 2011
More sad news, Kate (of Cowboy & Kate) was found dead this morning. She died a few days ago either as a result of running afoul of a building downtown. She was close enough to the Radisson she might have been trying to avoid Ivy and/or Princess but given that the Radisson kids are all long up and flying, probably not too likely. Probably got caught in some of the high winds we have been having - wouldn't matter how good a flyer she was, she really wouldn't have had much chance.
That's really very sad news. So sorry to hear about Kate's death. :'(
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OMG... very sad news, indeed, about Kate's death. :'( This has been a very difficult year for our peregrine falcons.
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This really is sad news, TPC. Even though most of us didn't see her, it was exciting to think that there might be another nesting pair in the city. Another sad chapter in, as Kinderchick said, a difficult year.
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:( :(
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This really is sad news, TPC. Even though most of us never didn't see her, it was exciting to think that there might be another nesting pair in the city. Another sad chapter in, as Kinderchick said, a difficult year.
Dennis has some photos of Cowboy & Kate - http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/hsc
It might be Cowboy hanging out at HSC these days - my date-of-death for Kate is an estimate but it seems that the HSC bird reappeared about a week ago ... we haven't had success catching the bird, but we will keep trying until all the birds have left town ...
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Oh nooooo! :-\ - The weather (if it was the wind) sure has played havoc on our birds this year......what a shame.... :(.
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Thanks for the photo link, TPC. :)
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Oh no! Such sad news. A difficult year, to be sure!
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This isn't off-topic but I have been speaking with a number of biologists over the last few days (just catching up on things) and apparently, its not just the peregrines that are hurting this year - all bird species have been taking hits - lots and lots and lots of nest failures right across the board. No guarantee of course, but if that is the case, then next year can only be better (knock on wood, fingers crossed)
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Such sad news. :'(
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This isn't off-topic but I have been speaking with a number of biologists over the last few days (just catching up on things) and apparently, its not just the peregrines that are hurting this year - all bird species have been taking hits - lots and lots and lots of nest failures right across the board. No guarantee of course, but if that is the case, then next year can only be better (knock on wood, fingers crossed)
Not surprising with all the wacky weather that's been going on everywhere :P
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So hard to find words to explain how we feel. Many of the falcons/chicks/eggs didn't have a chance this season. :'( I hope all have a successful migration and return to us next year.
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:o :'( OMG, Tracey. So sorry to hear of yet more sad news! It truly has been a very trying year for you, the Forum, and these lovely birds and their young ones. Hoping next year will be better for all.
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The very white breasted birdie was here at HSC again last night at 5:00 p.m.
Sorry to hear about Kate...will miss seeing her here at HSC.
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So very sorry to hear about Kate, was hoping her and Cowboy might find a nest site for next year. :'( :'(
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this is indeed sad news. it has been a trying year in our bird world this year.(globalize) some days, I feel like packing it in.
but as nature is, hopefully Cowboy will find a new mate
May your spirits soar Kate
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Sure was hoping for Cowboy and Kate to "settle down" here but alas that is not to be. So much happening accidentally to so many! It is heartbreaking. Perhaps we will see cowboy again next year (he isn't so young either) and he will be with a new "woman". Three nests in Winnipeg would be great..........especially for the ones doing the watching (us). A lot of work for you TPC and Dennis and ES.
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Poor Kate. Fly free girl. :'(
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Such sad news to hear. :'(
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Oh no... more sad news. :'( So very sorry to hear about Kate. Fly free sweet one! :-*
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Some birdie was visiting HSC again at 8:15 last night on the east facing letters.
and two birds this morning at 9:30.... one birdie was on the roof and one was sitting on the letters facing south.
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I wonder if Cowboy has a new gal pal, with his partner, Kate, gone now? ??? Or maybe the 2 birds are from the Radisson? :-\
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Some birdie was visiting HSC again at 8:15 last night on the east facing letters.
and two birds this morning at 9:30.... one birdie was on the roof and one was sitting on the letters facing south.
I wonder if Cowboy has a new gal pal, with his partner, Kate, gone now? ??? Or maybe the 2 birds are from the Radisson? :-\
Likely they are the Radisson birds, I would be surprised if Cowboy (if it is Cowboy) would have a girlfriend this fast - we don't have enough birds roaming through town here - more southern cities have more birds moving east/west, we don't. Or it might be one of the fledglings ... don't think that if it is Cowboy he would see a juvenile as a threat - he doesn't have chicks to protect and hasn't had for months and a juvenile isn't particularly threatening to an 11 year-old adult male peregrine.
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Now that the sun has passed overhead, one birdie was sitting on the east facing letters again at 3:00ish. I was driving this time and was not able to see clearly, but it looked like the white breasted one from earlier this week.
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The white breasted PF was hanging out here all last week. Some staff saw he/her early in the morning(between 7-8). I saw him/her every day but Wednesday on my way home (anywhere between 4:00 and 6:00 p.m.)
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Could that be Ivy, TPC?
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Could that be Ivy, TPC?
It could be - or it could be Jules or Beau or Cowboy. they have all been there this year. If this were September/October, it could also be one of the Brandon birds or another migrant so if it keeps hanging around it could have company - Luck from Brandon turned up here last October
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He/she was here again last night just after 4:30.
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Perhaps need to take Wowzer down to HSC to see just who is hanging around ??
Last year Luck was ID'd on Oct 10th at HSC.
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Dennis, no point in coming down today. Workers started doing some maintanence work on all the windows facing south of the Brodie Centre yesterday and are still there today. This is right around the corner from where they like to sit on the east facing letters, about five feet away.
Let you know if and when they/he/she returns next week.
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Thanks :)
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The workers or their equipment have been here all week = no birds around all week. Hurry up and get the job done boys!!!!
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The workers or their equipment have been here all week = no birds around all week. Hurry up and get the job done boys!!!!
Have you heard whether they are working on the weekends to get the job done sooner?
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Looks like the job is on hold...the equipment was there all day Thursday, Friday and again today, but not a worker in sight all three days.
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Migration started??? Some birdie came back to visit HSC last night. He/she was here at 5:30. I don't think its the same bird as two weeks ago (the chest is not as bright white).
The construction equipment is still up on the Buhler building, but no one has used it for the last 2 days. Hope they stay away and don't scare the birds off again.
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I walked by the base of the equipment this afternoon and there were a couple of dead birdy legs discarded there so someone must be hanging around up top!
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Some birdie was here at HSC again at 3:30 on his/her favourite letter.
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The birdie with a clear white chest is back at HSC again. He/she is sitting on the lower letters this time - protected from the wind a bit by the upper letters.
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The birdie with a clear white chest is back at HSC again. He/she is sitting on the lower letters this time - protected from the wind a bit by the upper letters.
Could be Cowboy or Beau or Ivy, they are the ones with the clearest breasts right now in town ...
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I know...Dennis grap Wowzer and find out just who is sitting at HSC, perhaps Friday,perhaps ?
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Maybe by then the wind will have calmed down and allow you and Wowzer to get a good look, Dennis!
;D
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I know...Dennis grap Wowzer and find out just who is sitting at HSC, perhaps Friday,perhaps ?
The guys were out yesterday and this morning working on the Buhler building - no birds around both days. I am working late today - give you a holler if they show up after the workers quit.
The birdie was here Tuesday and Wednesday P.M., so they have not been totally scared away.
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The CSC dominance over the pigeon world must be diminishing. There were what looked like a billion pigeons in the rail yard when I crossed the Arlington St bridge this afternoon.
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New birdie at HSC this morning at 8:00ish??? Doesn't look like the bright white breasted one from the last few weeks.
The workers just are getting start working on the south facing side of the building, so I don't think he/she will be there long.
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Two visitors at HSC at lunch today - the white breast male on the "O" and another one sitting down on the ledge just below him.
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Both birds spent the afternoon here at HSC yesterday - both of them were on the east facing letters at 2:30 and still there at 5:00.
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Sandi came back for a visit at HSC again???
Some birdie was here at 4:00 yesterday and again this morning.
Yesterday's bird looked like a female by size, not the usual white breasted one.
The sun is shining too bright(what a complaint for Oct 4) for me to see him/her clearly this morning.
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Sandi came back for a visit at HSC again???
Haven't seen her at the Radisson which is where she usually turns up at this time of the year but I'm keeping an eye on the cameras!
Could be one of the WW birds or even Cowboy ... Jules hangs around late and she and Ivy know each other so it could be them ...
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Tuesday, Oct 11, one birdie here most of the afternoon.
Wed, Oct 12, two birds here, one on the letters, one on the wall.
By the size, I am guess one was definitely a female.
Thursday, Oct 13, one was here around noon, but was gone when I looked again at 2:00.
No sightings since then.
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We've had interlopers at the Radisson nestbox just like last year and the year before, though this time, its not just one bird but two and it looks like a male & female. Haven't seen Princess for a good long while, nor Jules and Beau. Stopped seeing Ivy early last week, just before interloper #2 arrived. So your male/female could have been female interloper and Ivy or female and male interlopers getting way too comfortable in Princess' nestbox.
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...So your male/female could have been female interloper and Ivy or female and male interlopers getting way too comfortable in Princess' nestbox.
LOL! Well, I have no doubt that she'll put them in their place, if they're still around upon her return in the Spring! ;)