Manitoba Falcon Cam Forum
Other Peregrine Projects => USA Peregrines => Topic started by: The Peregrine Chick on June 18, 2008, 17:43
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2008 NESTING SEASON
The Fab Five on the Kodak Tower in Rochester, New York
Rochester Falcon Cam (http://rfalconcam.com/rfc-main/mainView.php)
The chicks are fledging, but you can identify the chicks from band colours - the list is on the main page. They have also outfitted one of the chicks with a transmitter. This one is on a harness and they will be able to track the bird's progress until the transmitter dies, falls off or the bird dies. Since mortality is highest in the first year, its a great way to be able to track where the young birds travel during this most dangerous of times. Will it save the bird if it is injured? Depends on where the bird happens to be. The transmitter won't tell you if the bird is injured, just that its not moving. And not everywhere is accessible. The transmitters aren't on all the time, you download the locations at regular intervals.
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Too funny I was just looking at this website.
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Even though there is no longer an active webcam here it is worth checking in as there are regular updates being provided on the juvenile Quest. For those of you who haven't followed the Rochester site, Mariah fledged another 5 young this year bringing her 11 year total to 43. No wonder she is referred to as "the legendary Mariah" . One of the larger females was named Quest and was fitted with a transmitter. In the Imprints section of the website there are updates of her travels east and great links to pictures of her on Cape Cod. It sounds like a Peregrine paradise. :)
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints
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Potentially some very bad news, but no answers are available yet.
From Jess on October 9:
"We wanted to let you know that we were contacted by the DEC's Mike Allen yesterday, with news that he had recovered the body of an unbanded adult male Peregrine near the University of Rochester campus. It is apparently in good condition, and we've asked Mike to send us some pictures so that we can attempt an ID. Unfortunately we don't have any other details right now.
There are a lot of migrants passing through the area since we're getting into the migration season. Watchers report that Kaver was last seen in the area over the weekend, but a lack of a recent sighting could be pure coincidence.
We are not speculating as to the possible identity of the bird that Mike recovered, and we'd like to ask for everyone's patience until we can find out more details. As soon as we have more information we'll be sure to bring it to you."
And from today:
"We received a few pictures of the deceased peregrine this evening courtesy of Carol P. Everyone at the Rochester Falconcam will be carefully Comparing the photos to images in our archive. Hopefully after everyone has had a chance to evaluate the images the group will be able to form a consensus with a fair degree of confidence. Of course, making a conclusive ID may not be possible even with the pictures, so we hope you'll understand our reluctance to provide individual opinions.
We're also hoping to nail down the time of the bird strike, which occurred this past Saturday. There was a confirmed Kaver sighting at 5:00PM on that day. Mike is working with the University to try to get more information.
We recognize that everyone has a lot of affection for Kaver, and we know that you're all anxious for answers. Please continue to be patient a bit longer, to give the team time to compare the photos. As soon as we come to a conclusion, (or decide that we can't) we'll let everyone know."
I hate to hear of this happening to any of these beautiful birds, but please, please don't let it be Kaver . . .
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Nooooooooooooooooooo :'( :'( :'( :'(
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It's not Kaver!
A great update from Jess this evening:
We're very happy to announce that we're confident the deceased Peregrine that was picked up at the University of Rochester on Saturday, October 4, was not Kaver!
After reviewing the photographs that Carol took of the dead falcon, we were fairly certain. There were just too many differences, especially in the color and shading of the falcon's bill. But the breakthrough came after some additional sleuthing by Carol, Mike Allen and Kathy O. It turns out that the report of the dead falcon came into the University's maintenance department at 4:57 PM on Saturday. Well, as it turned out, Kathy observed Kaver and Mariah together on the chase tower, where he stayed until 5:30! Proof positive came from Kathy's cell phone camera. She took a picture of Mariah and Kaver, and sure enough, the timestamp was 5:30PM. Just to be extra sure, Kathy took another picture tonight to confirm that the timestamp was accurate. You gotta love technology!
Sorry we kept everyone waitng so long for an answer, but we wanted to be as sure as we could be. Now we can say that we're sure. We appreciate everyone's patience through what we know was a very trying time.
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Thank you Alison. I just woke up and the first thing I've done is come here to check if you had any news. I'm sad a falcon passed expecially another male :( :( but I am so relieved it's not Mariah's mate Kaver. She's already lost her regular home and didn't want her to have lost her mate too. They're such a fabulous pair, hopeful to know they'll be finding a new home together :D :D :D
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Thanks for the positive news on Kaver.
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Some good news. There is a report on the Rochester site about the installation of a new nest box. It sounds like a great location and hopefully Mariah will find it to her liking. They also plan to install a second box at another location to give one more option.
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Thanks Maggie blue for the news :-* :-* I am a member of the Rochester site and I have not had time to check in this week.
I have followed this site for a few years now. I sure hope Mariah and Kyver continue to have many more kids.
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2009 NESTING SEASON
Apparently ... the Queen is back in town...woohoo!!
http://www.rfalconcam.com/falconwatch/
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Wow didn't think birds would be back this soon lol
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Wow didn't think birds would be back this soon lol
The birds that nest of us will reach their territories before ours and will usually begin nesting before ours. I think I remember one biologist south of the border saying it a week for every 100km. But I think that is anecdotal rather than fact. Not that it isn't pretty close, just that the raptors follow the food so when the food starts to move en masse, so too do their predators. But when they arrive and start nesting, I interval is probably pretty close - I know the Fargo birds are usually 3-4 weeks ahead of us. The eastern birds could even be earlier because of the more moderate weather ... so upshot is, keep your ears/eyes open, the kids are on their way :D
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Great news that Mariah is back. I sure hope that she finds one of the new nest boxes attractive and that she and Kaver have more gorgeous offspring this year.
It has been great that Rochester has been providing so many Quest updates with stories and pictures from people in Nantucket. The most recent one describes an aerial "dog fight" over the beach between Quest and a smaller peregrine. Any ideas as to what that would have been all about? Defending territory? Talon tag with another young falcon? Or perhaps a male showing interest?
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Kaver is late coming back and Mariah has mated with a new tiercel >:(. However Kaver has been late returning before and he's only 1 week late - there were storms up and down the east coast last week so hopefully that's what made him late.
It's going to be a fight if he does come back. *sigh* I hate the nestbox fights, let's hope it doesn't get ugly and the new guy accepts an escort!
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Latest news is that Mariah and her new mate have been sighted on the new nestbox location at the Powers site. That being said, they haven't ID'd the new guy yet - I wonder if he's Canadian?!! Mariah's certainly outlasted a few mates hasn't she?! Let's hope the new guy can keep up with her, she's a pistol that girl!
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Wow it's a soap opera at this site. The new male they are saying is a fellow named Tybropa-Cree and apparently he was here at the Bell building and one person is saying it was Linn's (her daughter) mate? So now he's with her mom?? It's all confusing and people are upset over Kaver not being back so all the posts are a jumble and I'm trying to make some sense of them.
I've sent an email to Frank and asked him if this guy was here and if he was with Lynn, because if he was that means she's either lost her new mate or something's happened to her.
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Heh..Frank responded right away. This new guy with mariah was NOT Linn's mate, he's one of ours!!! He was one of the young ones raised and released at Bell when it was still a hack-site back in 2007. Linn does have a new mate but no ID on him yet and she's is doing well and still here! So there is no mother-daughter swapping..going on..whew!
Now though I'm torn, I love Kaver but I don't want him to hurt our little guy either...I'm hoping if he does come back given that Tybro is only 2 years old ..he might know to run for it and not look back! Otherwise looks like the great Mariah will be mating with a Torontonian this year!!
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Hey Carly, Thanks for all of the great information. I have really been wondering what is going to happen here and checking Rochester daily. Lots of drama here between wondering if Mariah is going to chose the new nest box and also the new tiercel hanging around. Mariah and Kaver raised such wonderful offspring. I still hope that he returns and that the young fellow knows enough to move on.
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Thanks Maggie, I'm checking daily as well. I too am concerned about the whole situation. On one hand, we all love and know Kaver but on the other hand we have a Canadian raised peregrine we don't want to see him hurt either.
Our CPF people here were so excited when I sent them the information. They work so hard and dedicate so much of their free time and money to help the program. So often we tend to hear only of them when they have had an accident or perished so to hear that one is alive - especially so soon as he's only 2 years old is exciting. Especially in this case because they were from the hack site and they had to learn to fly and hunt on their own - so this young male's progress is bittersweet for everyone here. It's a way of saying the work everyone does is worthwhile - we all think it is of course and we know it is but sometimes when these guys have to deal with so many challenges it's hard to see the rewards and now we have a case where all their hard work paid off so I am extremely happy and proud of all of them.
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Just a couple of informational points for what they are worth ...
We are way too early in the season, even for Rochester, to write Kaver off yet. The winter has been cold, give the guy a chance to get back. And even if Mariah gets "romantic" with the new male, doesn't mean she'll stay with him if Kaver arrives back later - females have abandonned their eggs for old mates.
Young birds do better with experienced birds than when both are young, look at Lucy and Ivy a couple of years ago - they had no idea what the heck they were suppose to do with their eggs. Two years is quite a bit younger than most of our male birds so maybe he just wants company, maybe he's going to give it a go.
Hack-released birds don't usually do any worse than hatched birds - the first few weeks after they are released are dicier, but once they are up and hunting (and yes, they teach themselves quite successfully), they tend to do as well. We hack-released alot of birds in the first half of the Project's history and they did well - ours spread out across the prairies - and Madame, the previous female was a hack-release out of Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Keep watching the birdies!
TPC
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Update on Rochester site about Mariah and Tybropa, including some pictures sent by Frank of Ty when he was a juvie. He sure is beautiful and healthy looking.
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
TPC: I agree, it's too early to give up on Kaver. I just hope whatever the outcome is that no one gets fatally injured.
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What a handsome young tiercel. No wonder Mariah is interested in him ;D
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Ty looks more like "our" birds than other eastern birds I have seen. Actually, he looks like Trey's Dad, T-Rex, with what looks like a very full, dark black cap. Pretty bird.
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Heartbreaking pictures on the web this morning of Mariah trying so hard to get to her old nestbox :'( :'( She's hovering in the front of the netting, lands on it several times and is trying to figure out how to get past it to get to her ledge. Poor girl, she seems determined and confused.
http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLanding.action?c=tq6stye.8b4hxlp2&x=0&y=2xhkln&localeid=en_US
Tracy, Do you think she would eventually give up and go to one of the new nest boxes or her old box or will this stress jeapardize her egg production/laying? Also, since the Tiercel is usually the one who choses the box - will he view her wanting to be at Kodak with no access to a box as a rejection of himself? Or will he follow where she leads?
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The photos in the slideshow are beautiful, and absolutely heartbreaking. I had no problem accessing the link.
Since Kodak has not started work on the Tower, it would be a really good gesture to remove the netting and allow Mariah to return to the place where she raised her babies for eleven years in a row. The Terminal Tower in Cleveland has been undergoing restorations for about three years now; Buckeye and SW have adapted to all the disturbances, and have successfully continued to raise their babies there. (SW laid her third egg this morning.)
Mariah and Kaver are the first falcons I ever watched, and they are very special to me. I still hope Kaver will return, but in the back of my mind I think about the tiercel they found last fall. I know they decided it wasn't Kaver, but I wonder. Tybropa-Cree is a very handsome tiercel, but there is only one Kaver.
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Tracy, Do you think she would eventually give up and go to one of the new nest boxes or her old box or will this stress jeapardize her egg production/laying? Also, since the Tiercel is usually the one who choses the box - will he view her wanting to be at Kodak with no access to a box as a rejection of himself? Or will he follow where she leads?
In the wild it is not unusual for a "natural" (ie: cliff-face) peregrine territory to contain more than one potential nestsite - even in urban sites pairs have been known to move around a bit if there are suitable sites. The Radisson has two (as we all know) and Princess & Trey as a pair move more frequently than any of our previous pairs. Other pairs, like Holly & Zeus (or Holly & Screech and Mufasa & Phoebe) have only ever used the nestbox in Brandon. Now whether that is because there are no other suitable sites or preference, is up for debate. At the Radisson, it appears to be preference on the part of our pairs. As for Mariah, depends on her preferences. If she prefers nestboxes, she'll probably go to another nestbox in the territory. If she has/does nest without a box, she may try for awhile to get to where she wants to be. (I'll check the links tomorrow during the day and give you a better answer then). As for the stress, it will be stressful, annoying/frustrating (only words I can use on this PG-13 site) stress than perhaps the stress of a serious territorial dispute. On the upside, she will be driven (by hormones) to find a spot to nest which might be all it takes to get her into a new nestbox. Her mate will also have the same hormonal drive. If he's a new male, that might help, he won't be "attached" to the old nestsite and more willing to look elsewhere. And yes, both the birds are involved in the nestsite location decision.
One thing I will look for is whether or not they have left the old nestbox in place ... if they have (keep in mind its midnight right now and I haven't yet seen or read what's up) that may not have been their best move. It would also be interesting to see when the put the new nestboxes out ... we put up a new nestbox in West Winnipeg last year and the pair that hung out on the building on an almost daily basis, didn't show any interest in the box until September/October (and no, the box isn't hard for them to find :D). If they knew they were going to do work a year or more in advance, I would be interested in knowing if they put the boxes out at that time to get the pair familiar with their presence. Anywho, will check it out tomorrow in daylight and add anything I think is pertinent ...
Answer your question a bit Carly?
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Had a look at the slideshow, and as a project manager, my concern is the netting. It looks like pigeon exclusion netting, which is really the only way to keep pigeons off a building, particularly older buildings with their ornate architecture. And pigeon droppings are brutal on stone/brick, corrosive in fact, not to mention the health problems that can arise. For peregrines, I would have chosen something else, perhaps plywood sheets on an angle so she wouldn't have enough room to nest without the potential for her getting caught in the netting. If she should get caught, it is hoped that a) someone notices quickly and b) access to the site is available, which I assume is so since she has nested there before. And it wouldn't just be her, both birds could be caught.
Now, before y'all panic folks, peregrines are predators and predators, because they have to rely on their ability to catch things in order to survive, take fewer risks than say a prey species. Birds in particular, and raptors for sure, are very aware of how close they can get to things and when, without injuring themselves. If you watch that slideshow again, Mariah is actually a very savvy and adept little flyer, it looked more nerve-wracking to us than it probably was for her. But that doesn't mean she's safe, a gust of wind or a moment of inattention and anything can happen, just means that she's being careful and has the skill to keep herself out of trouble under normal conditions.
Help any?
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Thank you Tracy, that does explain things. From what I remember they actually physically relocated her nestbox to one of the other locations and put up 1 or 2 other ones to give them a choice. She is aware of the boxes they say as she was around in the Fall when all this work was going on but she has not gone near them. She keeps hanging out on the Kodak and reports say she even mated with TC there.
I know we've had cases here they tell me where they've had to move boxes but not with a peregrine who had nested in the same spot for so long - Mariah has been at Kodak for 11 years so it seems like uncharted territory but they worked with experienced biologists and seem to have done alot of planning - no doubt they know what they are doing but Mariah is a woman with a mind of her own.
That netting makes me queezy as well, I think your idea of plywood sheets is a good one. I think the fact Mariah can see her old ledge means she won't give up for awhile, let's hope she doesn't get tangled in the nets.
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That netting makes me queezy as well, I think your idea of plywood sheets is a good one. I think the fact Mariah can see her old ledge means she won't give up for awhile, let's hope she doesn't get tangled in the nets.
I should say that I have no idea how they would anchor the sheets so they don't become airborne which is not something they have to worry about with the netting ...
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We are way too early in the season, even for Rochester, to write Kaver off yet. The winter has been cold, give the guy a chance to get back. And even if Mariah gets "romantic" with the new male, doesn't mean she'll stay with him if Kaver arrives back later - females have abandonned their eggs for old mates.
I have a biology question -- do mature Peregrines generally conceive on the first attempt?
And we're probably most of us not thrilled with the abandonment thing, even if we do want our favourite pairs together. Hmm, science meets the heart! How on earth do you do it?!
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I really don't even know why I clicked on the link :'(
Of course, I looked at every picture with my hand covering my mouth in total shock and in complete worry that Mariah will just decide to make a final attempt at the netting :o
TPC, I know you mentioned that the netting is there to protect the building, but come on!!! Isn't there anyone there that can see what's going on and it's possible that they just might lose a peregrine to this netting?
I just wish someone would just make the decision and take the netting off. If Mariah decides to nest somewhere else, hope is more like it, then great!!! However, if she and her mate are trying to get access to this "blocked" nest site, can someone involved in the peregrine recovery project interveen?
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Sorry, sometimes the human emotions overule nature's way.
It's just so hard to see that the Peregrine's instinct is blocked off by humans even though we are trying to aid in their recovery!!!
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TPC, I know you mentioned that the netting is there to protect the building, but come on!!! Isn't there anyone there that can see what's going on and it's possible that they just might lose a peregrine to this netting?
I just wish someone would just make the decision and take the netting off. If Mariah decides to nest somewhere else, hope is more like it, then great!!! However, if she and her mate are trying to get access to this "blocked" nest site, can someone involved in the peregrine recovery project interveen?
As I understand it, the netting is there to specifically stop the peregrines as the Kodak Tower is slated to have work done it and they did provide nestboxes last year to get her/them use to changes in their territory. There seems to be some question about the timeline on the work, and if you have read the comments that accompany the slideshow there seems to be some hard feelings towards the Kodak company in Rochester, but I'm afraid I don't know anything about that ...
As for the Rochester Project involvement, they were probably involved in putting up the additional nestboxes ... and recovery management is filled with the need to work with building managers and owners so chances are they doing the best they can in the situation. Since the pair are well-known, and much beloved, I'm pretty sure that we will hear more about this as time goes by ... and Mariah & her beau have probably visited the other boxes but its a waiting game at this point. They will probably settle soon and get down to the important "stuff" but it will be hard to wait ...
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Thanks TPC!!!
As I posted, sometimes the human emotions are hard to control and I just want to run up there and rip down the netting myself!!! I have faith in Mariah's ability and intelligence to find another nestsite suitable for her and her mate to raise their chicks!!! ;D
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There is more very sad news from Rochester tonight. From a new update on Imprints:
"Unfortunately, we also have some sad news to report. Tybropa-Cree, the tiercel that we reported about last week who was observed mating with Mariah, was found deceased by the side of a busy highway on Tuesday, the 17th. He has been positively identified via his black ID band number, 15/V. Everyone here at the Rochester Falconcam was hoping that this new male would prove to be an able mate to Mariah and a provider for a family. It’s distressing to learn that he has fallen victim to human activity, however unintentioned.:
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
Tybropa-Cree had been in Rochester for such a short time. Born on a bridge in Quebec, he and his three siblings had been transferred to Toronto to be raised in a hack box, so that they would have a better chance of survival than they would trying to fledge from the bridge. He was such a handsome little tiercel, and only two years old. :'(
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/february%202009/tybropa-cree.jpg) (http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/february%202009/tybropa-cree5b.jpg)
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Thanks Alison, I just found out and emailed Frank - he will be devestated as we all are here :'( :'(
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So sad to hear about the death of TC. :'(
As he and Mariah had mated is there any chance at all that Mariah could have his offspring? With support of a new male?
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She could yes Maggie but I'm not sure in this case because he's possibly been gone for over a week - our guys here keep mating until the last egg is laid and TPC did say it was an ongoing process so not sure if some 'time off' in between would affect the process. I could guess but honestly...I have no clue.
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I've been told that in territorial disputes when a new male takes over after mating had already occured..then some eyases would be the old tiercel's and some the new. However that cutover usually happens quite fast as the female will quickly accept the new male. In this case...she may not find a new male for several more weeks and TPC did say that this nest box situation would be as stressful for her as a territorial dispute so that will also affect any potential eggs as well, they might not be viable.
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Hard to say what might happen ... the only two scenarios I know of examples are:
Mariah could lay and incubate with new mate - that happened here when T-Rex replaced his father Pop mid-incubation
Mariah could lay and abandon her eggs - not sure how likely that is or the exact reasons/timing for it - I do know that it has happened, though not here
In any case, it would really take a DNA test to know who is (or isn't) the Dad.
My advice for what its worth is don't worry about who the father is, just keep your fingers crossed that Mariah finds a replacement because she can't raise the chicks by herself - she can't leave the chicks alone to be able to hunt enough to feed herself and them, particularly in the first 10 days when she needs to regulate their body temperatures. She is on the territory and defending it no doubt, so with luck, she will attract a passing male (and I have only started to see reports of migrating falcons - American Kestrels mostly, only a couple of peregrines - at the hawk watch locations in the US) and this year will not be a lost year for Mariah and her fans in Rochester ...
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Good news today; the Mariah watchers spotted Mariah flying around with a tiercel today. Too early to tell who it is and whether he's just passing through or if this could be a potential mate for her...but a positive sign none the less ;D You go Mariah 8)
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Oh that's great news...let's hope that this tiercel is a potential mate for years to come and that he finds a great nestbox (not try the Kodak tower) to raise some chicks with Mariah. Come on Mariah, show your talons off and you go girl!!!
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I was finally able to read the full report this moring, last night there were problems with the board. Here is the direct link and an excerpt from Carol's report (hopefully ok to post it)..sounds very encouraging..and sounds like courtship behaviour!
http://www.rfalconcam.com/falconwatch/
Two Falcons came flying in from the south. Mariah in the lead the Tiercel
behind her. They both flew back to the Kodak Tower and around it. I quickly jumped in my car and drove over to the KTower.
Mariah had landed on the SE corner of the launchpad and the Tiercel was doing all kinds of fancy flying in front her. I really expected them to mate or
copulate, but it never happened.
There was glorious ee-chupping filling the air!
The Tiercel flew by Mariah, heading north and Mariah was off in a flash. They
both did a U-turn, heading back towards me. Both Mariah and the Tiercel flew over me, low, and at a great rate of speed. I just watched and enjoyed the show.
They took off heading south.
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Oh that's great news...I read the blog and it mentioned that the pair returned together and that was about it so this could be the one for Mariah....Let's hope!
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One of the watchers named Joyce has posted her photos of Mariah and the new tiercel, very promising and she sure looks like she's having fun! Also a few nice shots of a bald eagle that Mariah and new guy escorted along ;D
http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLanding.action?c=tq6stye.c6m1yufq&x=0&y=-abvoil&localeid=en_US
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Quite the pictures of Mariah and the tiercel!
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Yup, there is definitely a little woo-ing going on in the skies above Rochester ...
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Part I and II of Joyce's falcon watch report from today:
Part I: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/95405
Part II: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/95423
So the tiercel looks to be banded (not confirmed yet but they thought they saw bands), they were hanging at MidTown - no clue where that is but at least it's not the old site so that's a positive sign. Even though she didn't allow him to mate with her, it seems she's making him work for it...hehe..you go girl!!
More reports and pics to come later.
*Ack*: I just googled MidTown, if it's the same building they're referring to - it's slated for demolition in the next two years!
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Well, a girl can never be too careful. We do have our moments and we want the best of the best!!! :D
Okay so let's all let this pair get to know each other, even though Mariah is making him work for it, and even if they nest on Midtown, we won't think about what's supposed to happen to that building.
Come on Mariah, enough playing hard to get.... :-*
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The new tiercel might be another Canadian!!! And a third peregrine was also spotted but new guy escorted him out!
http://marchlords.com/birdblog/2009/03/mariahs-neuveau-beau.html
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Ah... good red-blooded Canadian boys ! gotta love 'em.
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While we wait in anticipation for a Princess/Trey sighting; I found this on the Imprints Rochester site. Jess, who I think is one of the falcon watchers has posted this in reply to a question that we also had about Mariah's eggs - the response is from the DEC: (I hope it's ok to post it here)
After all the questions about Mariah mating with T-C and whether she could lay eggs based on their copulation activity we asked the DEC.
Their answer is that all the evidence points to Peregrine females being able to store usable sperm for only a couple of days. Under controlled laboratory conditions some artificial insemination efforts have produced 2 or 3 eggs from a single insemination, but the timing has to be very precise. In the wild that’s not likely to happen.
Since it takes about two days for the egg to form and be laid, Mariah needs to have a pretty steady supply of sperm while she’s in her egg-laying phase in order to produce viable eggs. That’s one reason why we continue to see copulation behavior throughout the egg-laying cycle.
So it doesn’t look like any of the mating activity between Mariah and T-C would have resulted in laying fertilized eggs.
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Falcon watch report/update on Mariah and her new mate.
http://www.rfalconcam.com/falconwatch/?p=155
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Good for Mariah and her new mate :-*
I read on "Imprints" that someone witnessed the two of them mating... :P
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More exciting news from Rochester; a new tiercel at the Psych centre has been positively identified as Zephyr - on of Mariah and Kaver's offspring from last year!!!
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/95853
Link to photos by one of the watchers who ID'd him:
http://picasaweb.google.com/marcialyman/2009_03_28#
That's both Zephyr and Quest that we know have not only survived but are thriving!!
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More exciting news from Rochester; a new tiercel at the Psych centre has been positively identified as Zephyr - on of Mariah and Kaver's offspring from last year!!!
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/95853
Link to photos by one of the watchers who ID'd him:
http://picasaweb.google.com/marcialyman/2009_03_28#
That's both Zephyr and Quest that we know have not only survived but are thriving!!
Sorry, going to be little ms cautious TPC here. Great news about Zephyr and Quest. Now Quest hung out in the area all winter which if she continues to do means she won't have to worry about migration hazards, just urban ones which in large (and high) urban areas are not insignificant. That Zephyr made it back is great news too, particularly if he went further afield, he's managed to weather his first year home and away. Now why cautious? They aren't a year old yet so they are far from experienced birds but they are back and that is a very good sign. From a biologic, recovery and the peregrine's perspective, the success of a bird isn't in surviving or even reproducing, its if your kids have kids. So if Zephyr or Quest have young, then Mariah and Kaver have been successful. Only way to know your genes have been passed along is if there are grand-kids around somewhere ....
The Rochester folks are very good about their birds so if Zephyr and Quest are going to survive and thrive (in the b & r & p sense) then they are in the right place!!
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Now that's what we love to hear, more falcons coming home!!!
Now all they need to do is produce healthy chicks so they can produce healthy chicks.... ::)
(I know, I know...easier written then done :D)
Still no news about Kaiver hey???
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We rarely hear about ours here so I guess that's why I get so excited when I hear of other falcons being sighted after the fact. Rochester certainly seems to have a high success rate as we have many of Mariah's offpsring in Southern Ontario.
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Same here...actually I posted a question to TPC about ours as well....she has a family tree on her forum but, I'm also curious if she knows they are around.
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Looks like the DEC might be doing their 'baiting', some specimens inside and outside Mariah's old nestbox today - they were not there yesterday. they said they might try this to lure her to the nestbox away from the Kodak..hope it works!!
http://rfalconcam.com/rfc-main/multiView.php
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Hit-miss I suspect, but they need to try whatever they can to make the transition easier/sooner. We have tried to bait (last time for the foster chicks in 2008) and it rarely works. But hey, she may be just territorial enough to want to check it out.
Wish them luck!!!
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Looks like the 'bait' idea was a miss, dead carnage has sat there for days through rain and wind. Too bad :(, but applause to them for trying.
Mariah and Nubo (as they are calling him) still hanging near Mid Town and the Kodak Tower...guess we'll just have to wait and see where the Queen decides she wants to lay her eggs.
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this is one site that I have followed since 2006.
My fingers are crossed this year. It is nice that they have one of Kyvers sons nesting down there as well :) :)
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My fingers are crossed too!
Unfortunate that there is no news on Kaiver :(
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Good report on today's watch of Mariah and Nubo...they have his band number now so hopefully we'll find out who he is soon. Looks like Midtown will be their new home...here is the report:
http://marchlords.com/birdblog/2009/04/new-home-for-falcons-at-midtown-tower.html
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What a fantastic report on Mariah and Nubo! More great news on falcons....keep it coming :D
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Bad news....and this just breaks my heart and makes me sick to my stomach. As if this little girl hasn't already been through enough..losing her home, Kaver and now this...Thank goodness "watchers" were on the ground and could help...the following was posted today on Imprints....
Mariah Injured in Territory Battle Downtown
April 13th, 2009
I make this report with great regret and a heavy heart. Earlier today, watchers Carol P and Brian H witnessed a fierce territorial battle near Midtown tower between Mariah and a banded female, possibly the falcon that has been staking out a territory in the nearby town of Brighton. During the battle Mariah was seriously wounded in her shoulder. Carol & Brian retrieved her from the street and took her to a local wildlife rehabber where she is receiving care.
This news comes as quite a blow to everyone at the Rochester Falconcam, and I’m sure to all of Mariah’s many fans. We’re hoping for a good outcome, and that Mariah will once again beat the odds, but we are informed that her injuries are quite grave. We’ll keep everyone informed as soon as we learn of any information about her condition.
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
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I don't think I can find the words, SGB. I feel your pain, hon. :'( :'( :'(
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Oh no... :'(
I feel terrible for Mariah. Everything she's been through this year. It just breaks me to know that she's hurt badly. Thank goodness for the the ground spotters. It's wonderful to know that humans could lend more than a helping hand.
Get better Mariah...
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Oh no, she has been through so much already and now this. I'm so glad they were able to rescue her, long live the Queen!!!
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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More news, I was afraid Zephyr might be a victim, soon as they said it was the falcon from the Psych centre and if the new tiercel helped, wonder if they planned it -do peregrines do that, set her up for a fall I mean???
Carol reports that Mariah survived the night. She’s not out of the woods by any means but it’s a hopeful sign. She will be seen by a Veterinarian this morning to check for other injuries and to determine whether she needs surgery. There is some concern about her eyesight but it is too soon to make a determination regarding that yet. Both the rehabbers and Vet have been informed that she may be gravid, or ready to lay eggs. DEC Wildlife Technician Mike Allen has also been in contact with the rehabbers this morning.
In related news, we’ve received more details about the territory battle. It seems that Mariah was attacked by two Peregrines. Carol said that Mariah was brought down to the ground once and went back up. When she fell the second time Carol and Brian moved in to protect her from further attacks which were still being made. It seems likely that their actions saved Mariah’s life, and we’re grateful for their quick thinking and decisiveness.
The rehabbers noted that Mariah had two injuries, one sustained yesterday and another that looked recent. Watchers including Carol, Joyce Miller and Jim P traded notes about their various observations over the holiday weekend, and it seems like Mariah may have last been in command of her territory on Friday. Carol and Joyce reviewed their photos and watch observations from Saturday and both feel confident that the intruding female was at Midtown tower at that time. So Mariah may have sustained her first injury sometime after Noon on Friday, 10 April. As we saw last year and have witnessed at other sites, territory disputes like this can take place over a couple of days. This latest news appears to lend weight to an extended territory dispute.
All of this leads to a lot of uncertainty. Since two falcons attacked Mariah on Sunday, could it the new tiercel have worked with the intruder to attack Mariah on Sunday? If the female intruder is the one that has been seen at the Brighton site recently, what happened to Zephyr, who was seen in her company? Unfortunately there are a lot more questions than answers at this point. Doubtless we’ll get some of those answers as time goes on. For now we’re concentrating on Mariah’s treatment and we’re hopeful for her eventual recovery.
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To me Falcons and Mariah go hand in hand.
I have been a follower since I started watching falcons, and I am extremely upset.
I am so glad that Carol and Brian were there.
Mariah will always be Queen of the skies.
Kimmarie of buffalo and Joyce first introduced me to Mariah and I was hooked from there on in. Kyver, the box , and now Mariah.
:'( :'(
It si a bit much for me at the moment. thanks for the reports.
I am a member of their site so I have been over there.
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More details from yesterday's fight, apparently Mariah did indeed hit the building the second time she fell.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/96494
I can't believe how upset I am over all this, more so because that turncoat mate of hers helped this new flousy!! Part of me is hoping they can't release her because she will go right back and the two of them will finish her off and I couldnt' bear that. Is that awful to feel like that? I'd rather see her go in peace surrounded by the people that have watched and cared for her for years than to see her fall to the ground defeated :'(
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No Carly...It isn't aweful to feel this way!
It's so hard to be human & humane sometimes!
I wouldn't want to see her released into a "trap" so to speak, either.
I know it's nature and this is what falcons do in their world, and unfortunately, technology and recovery projects bring that reality to us, literally.
I am very thankful that Carol & Brian were there to rescue her from a tag-team.
Mariah....you are a beautiful falcon and the queen of the skies. We are all pulling for you to recover!
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Carly, I feel the same as you. I would like to wring the males neck right now, even though I know this how it works.I am hoping that she cannot be released and that she can be an educator bird. She is known the world over. Froona documented her well. I thank all of us that have followed her are in shock becasue the season has been so upsetting for her to begin with.
I remember well, how this happened at Toronto Sheraton a few years ago, when Rhea Mea took over. although I think it was just Rhea Mea that took part. Mark Nash and I cried through e- mails. but we love Rhea Mea. But Mariah is the queen.
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This may be a stupid question, if it is, I'm sorry :( What is an educator bird?
I also should of added in my post that I do not want Mariah to be released either...let her recover and keep her safe and treat her like royalty. That's the least she deserves. She's truly magnificent!
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After a bird is rehabilitated , they can take it from school to school and talk to children about the raptors. or it can put on flight demonstrations. It is an ambassador of sorts.
she certainly deserves at least that.
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Well..to me, that would be the perfect honor for Mariah, The Royal Ambassador of the Falcons!
She would literally be on a pedestal! I can't imagine it being any better than that!
I wish for Mariah to have a full recovery and become the falcon ambassador!
We love you Mariah!
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More update at Imprint
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
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Not to be a dark cloud, but not all birds can be education ambassadors, they simply do not have the temperment for it. Older wild birds can be hit/miss. And peregrines as a species are kinda snotty.
Brighter cloud - if she is gravid, even after this fight, she may lay viable eggs. If she is recovering from injuries that aren't neurological or involve her feet, she could still incubate if she is willing to take food from humans. If not, I imagine the eggs could be pulled and incubated. They could be returned later to her to brood/foster if they can keep her on dummy eggs until they are hatched. But again its all dependent on her taking food from the rehabbers. With a great deal of good fortune (and if the Project thinks it is best) she could raise the chicks to fledging at which point, she and they (if she's ready) could be hack released from a location away from any/all resident pair(s). By that point, most of the nests will be in a similar state. Then everyone will be involved in hunting for and teaching the fledglings and hopefully not particularly interested in looking for trouble. Then its migration out of the area for everyone and we all wait for next spring.
This is just a possibility - I have no idea what the Rochester/New York experts can/want/will do. Nor do I have any insight in Mariah's condition or prognosis from the Imprints note. And I don't know if Rochester/New York has the infrastructure (i.e., a safe hack site, secure breeding facility, etc) or the manpower. Basically, this is just my first thought of a possibility that might keep everyone out of trouble and work if Mariah actually lays eggs ...
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Forgot to ask ... has any of the Rochester spotters confirmed that Nobo was involved in the actual conflict? Or was he just there? Battles may be between the same gender but that doesn't usually mean that the other mate just sits there unconcerned or uninvolved. They may not actually fight with the other gender but they frequently are knee-deep in it ...
Dennis and I watched our West Winnipeg male (Ivy) take off after an interloper that turned out to be female. When his female arrived she lit into the interloper female but he was right there. Without watching carefully, it would be hard to tell who was actually fighting and who was egging it on. When the West Winnipeg birds reappeared, she arrived first, followed by him a minute or two later.
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They confirmed that both attacked her TPC, in fact the 2 watchers saved her life after the second fall and stood between Mariah and the 2 attacking falcons as they would not cease their attack of her.
I cant' help but wonder if the 'turncoat' was involved with this other female all along. I bet he was running back and forth between them and Mariah seemed hesitant at first to get involved with him - good instincts!!
She did take food from the rehabber last night which is good but they are concerned that she may have internal bleeding due to her feces being black and runny they said. She has 3 wounds, one deep one that requires moving her to Syracuse this morning for possible surgery. The DEC is taking over her care as of today. She is standing on her own they said and they are also treating her with antibiotics for something called 'bumblefoot',
The only good thing about this is that if Mariah doesn't go back, at least now one of her kids can reclaim the area in the future...and I'll be cheering them on!!
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It was comforting to read that the DEC folks are making sure that Mariah receives the best possible treatment. The update this morning says that they are going to take her to Syracuse for treatment by a veterinarian with 30 years of experience with Peregrine falcons. The Queen of the skies deserves the best. It was wonderful that there were two experienced watchers who knew what action to take when she was on the ground and still under attack. Kudos to them.
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Yes that is good news Maggie, someone with that much experience will certainly take good care of our Queen.
And those watchers, wow! Can you imagine putting yourself between 2 attacking falcons and Mariah..! :o
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They confirmed that both attacked her TPC, in fact the 2 watchers saved her life after the second fall and stood between Mariah and the 2 attacking falcons as they would not cease their attack of her.
Actually, I meant are they sure it was Mariah's mate rather than the mate of the attacking female? They all look alike when they are flying at 115 km/h (70 mph) in pursuit.
She is standing on her own they said and they are also treating her with antibiotics for something called 'bumblefoot'.
Bumblefoot is a bacterial infection/inflammatory response on birds' feet. It can be relatively mild - irritation like, usually from perching too long or on a poor surface and usually clears up with a topical antibacterial product; more serious it occurs when the skin has been broken and there is more infection - topical antibacterial product and usually antibiotics as well; severe results/presents with noticeable distortions in the foot and impaired operation/locomotion - can cause real damage to the foot. I don't see it much in our wild-birds, do know of birds in captivity/rehab that acquire it but it is usually quickly taken care of because it is noticed by the rehabbers and vet care is close by.
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I heard back form Jess at Rochester site and I think if eggs are laid they are going to incubate them. Now that was yesterday. I will look for my message.
they believe that the the mate of the attacking female was Mariahs mate. they think the situation changed around Friday. when they looked back at pictures, they think that the male was mating with a new female(from PSch sire) and not Mariah on Friday. I am going back to look at the pictures, because I called my husband and said , is there not 3 falcons in that picture. i was confused then. The main thing is that Mariah gets the best care possible. she is worthy of it. Not that they all aren't but she is the real deal. and from the looks of it she is going to get the best. :)
this was the message I got form Jess.
@bev - If Mariah lays any eggs they could be collected and fostered or incubated. We’re already working with the DEC and the vets on that issue.
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I have looked at some pictures too and read Jim's (one of the ultimate rescuers) report from Friday and he had a powerful scope with him and not only was he able to get the band ID off the male but he identified Mariah. If this new female swooped in, it must have been later as she looks good in these shots and no one witnessed another falcon or any attacks unless they aren't saying at this point. But in comparing one of the shots from Friday taken of Mariah on this site with an older shot of her, it sure looks like her, even the 'v' depth on her breast is the same as well as her cap -unless new girl looks alot like her! And they were definitely mating.
http://marchlords.com/birdblog/2009/04/new-home-for-falcons-at-midtown-tower.html
Sounds to me like people are upset and confused and maybe now starting to question what they may have seen.
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Jim has now posted on yahoo..to clear up the confusion and he confirms that it is definitely Mariah in his pictures on Friday. He also mentions seeing a 3rd falcon on Thursday that Mariah drove off...so that may have been the start of it..but as far as Friday, Nubo and Mariah were still a couple and were mating up a storm. He figures that the intruder female may have displace Mariah Friday late afternoon after they had left their watch. Saturday, they noticed that the female seemed darker than Mariah but attributed it to lighting - so it could have been intruder girl and then they figure Sunday Mariah attempted to retake her territory and that's when Nubo joined in and helped his new mate. They have his band number and are working on getting an ID.
Here is his post in his own words:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/96591
Also another post on confirmation that it's definitely Nubo and that he warned his new mate that Mariah was coming in: by Joyce another watcher:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/96592
They also are pretty sure that the intruder girl was the one with Zephyr at Psych centre as Joyce had photographed her: Obviously Nubo bonded immediately with the winner of the battle...survival instinct I guess.
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They also are pretty sure that the intruder girl was the one with Zephyr at Psych centre as Joyce had photographed her: Obviously Nubo bonded immediately with the winner of the battle...survival instinct I guess.
This is all very confusing. This morning I went back through the Imprints posts. The March 30th report that mentioned the birds in the suburb of Brighton reported that there was an unbanded female and a couple of males around, one an adult male that disappeared and a sub-adult male that turned out to be Zephyr, Mariah and Kaver's son from last year.
The April 13th report on the Mariah incident mentioned a BANDED female in the territorial battle. Perhaps that might have been inaccurate in the heat of the moment, or perhaps this was another female altogether. I am sure that there are probably people out in Rochester and vicinity with scopes as I write. The only thing that I really want to know at the moment is how is Mariah and is Zephyr O.K.? or was he caught up in all this drama too. Let's hope that the folks on the ground can give everyone some answers in the coming days.
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I hope Zephyr's ok too as he's not even a year old yet... it might be he just hung out there and then moved on..kind of like Tybropa did here with Juliet and Linn as he is kind of young yet to mate..although not unheard of from what people say. Let's hope he doesn't try to visit what he thinks is his mom again until he's a bit older.
As for the banded vs unbanded..a watcher named Maria's photo of her and Zephyr show her as being banded that is mentioned as a correction in a post below of that date in the comments . That being said, honestly until Zephyr was spotted - I had never seen anyone mention that site, was it even an established nest site? perhaps - and this is just my musings - it was more like a safe area outside Mariah's where you wouldn't get your block knocked off by the Queen. There were so many reports of migrating falcons passing through during the past month and a half, I wonder if it wasn't just a stopover and there were many falcons passing through on any given day..but I leave that to someone with more knowledge of the area, I have zero and admit to it :D
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I think there is too much second guessing and that the important thing is that Mariah get the care she needs.
Often a young falcon will hang out at the beginning of the season around an adult falcon. Usually they just chase it off as they do not present any harm. I am just stating what I have been told over the years.
Last year in Edmonton a young male hung around the transmitter girl for about a week and then was gone.
so I think we all knew that some year this would happen and I am just glad that she is here and not run off where they do not know where she is and that someone was there to save her.
And that there are still 2 nesting falcons in the area that did not know how special Mariah was to us all and they will mate and probably produce young and will need the eyes of Rochester.
No I am not tough. I have had to learn this the hard way.
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Feisty Mariah arrives safely in Syracuse!! Hehe..now that sounds like Mariah!
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
Jim update's his blog with details of the weekend:
http://marchlords.com/birdblog/2009/04/was-thursday-end-of-mariahs-reign.html
Has any falcon ever commanded this much attention to detail??!! Only the Queen!
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Local Rochester interview with DEC on Mariah and update on her condition:
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wxxi/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1494122§ionID=1
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Come on Mariah...we are all pulling for a full recovery! But...we think you would be a perfect ambassador!
Mariah, you're the queen of the skies...We don't want to see you hurt ever again! You deserve the best...May your thrown await you!
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update good news on Mariah from Imprints :
We’re happy to report the latest news on Mariah, courtesy of DEC Wildlife Technician Mike Allen:
Received another update this morning, Mariah is being a model patient, standing and eating on her own - the veterinarian is planning to do surgery on the throat wound but not until next week. They wanted to make sure she was stable first and at this point there is no rush. That’s all for now but I thought you would like to know she’s doing well.
Mike
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like I say, baby steps at a time. That she is letting them feed her is great. :) :)
A friend of mine from Rochester,one that does a lot of the photos and observations from the ground, e-mailed me and told me that the wound is very deep and about the size of a dime.
so I guess they want to make sure she is healthier before the operation.
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Oh my god!! It's Mariah and Kaver's grandson who has taken over her territory...Freedom's son! The legacy continues...
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
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Just a note about injuries - it soulds like Mariah is doing very well regardless of the injuries. Birds tend to succumb very quickly from stress if they aren't strong enough to tolerate the vet care. Mariah sounds (so far) like she's doing very well. Now that is not to say that something couldn't happen, but every day she's still alive is a pretty big deal, even if she has a long way to go before everything is healed up.
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Well, this shows that the young are making it. :) :)
bitter sweet, is it not!!!!!!!
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Just so y'all know, the male everyone has been "ticked" at, is one of Mariah's grandsons. I was helping Jim Pisello try to track down his band number in case he was a "western" bird but he's actually from southern Ontario. Here's Jim's message ....
Thanks for checking. In fact, we learned just today that this tiercel was banded at Port Colborne, Ontario in June 2006. He was named Archer, after the Archer Daniels Midland grain mill at which he was hatched. His parents were Freedom and Millie. Now for the fun part-- Freedom is Mariah's son from 2002, so Mariah was displaced by her own grandson!
Thanks for the link to your forum. It's amazing how passionate people across the continent can be about a falcon. It's nice to know that Mariah has fans in the west.
Thought you'd all be interested ;)
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Yep ... I'd still like to tweak his feathers...for hurting grandma!! There is a suspicion that the new female may also be a Mariah offspring but nothing is confirmed yet. Archer may now have moved on from grandma to his aunt :P
Also this morning Imprints is reporting another of Mariah and Kaver's kids has turned up in New York at a site there. She deserves her little red sash just for her contribution to the peregrine population...she is the Queen!! ;D
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I just hope no more "family tree" members are going to fight...we need to keep the genes going that Mariah spread. ;D
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Just as a note, from a biological and project perspective (and yes, I've said this before on this Forum), the success of a bird is not in how many kids it produces but rather how many kids their kids successfully have. So Mariah is a success not because she has sons and daughters but because her grandsons and granddaughters are taking over territories and having young. Mariah's success is now measured in how many future generations can be traced back to her.
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Mariah update from Imprints this morning!
Mariah’s Vets “Delighted At Her Progress”
Mike Allen just sent us a news update on Mariah’s condition that he received from her veterinary team on Saturday. The news continues to be good.
Just a note to let you know that the veterinarian was just here to examine Mariah. We are delighted at her progress. We can’t believe how well the wound is healing. It looks so much better than last Tuesday. We now believe that it will heal on its own without stitches.
We removed the bandage and she is now having the neck area covered with an antibiotic/antiseptic wound glue called Facilitator. She checked the puncture wounds on her feet and the tear on her wing webbing. They are healing nicely. She is an excellent patient. I have a hood that fits her well and she is very cooperative in handling her. The doctor took her off the torb (seditive) today, but we will continue with her antibiotics.
The veterinarian will be back to check her around noon on Tue, as he felt it was less stressful on Mariah if I did not transport her into the clinic, so he is willing to come here to treat her. She is in a quiet and calm setting here and we didn’t want to cause any [undue] stress.
I can’t begin to tell you how well she is eating. I have been cutting her food up for her into little [bite] sized pieces, but I think she is ready to eat a whole quail on her own. I will open it up for her, so she can pick it apart by herself. Not only will this be more natural for her, but it will keep her occupied. Tomorrow (Sunday), I am going… to get her some more fresh quail from a friend who raises them and is willing to give us some. I will send you another report after the doctor is here on Tuesday. We too are delighted to hear that Mariah is making such rapid progress! Our heartfelt thanks go to the team of caring professionals who are taking care of Mariah and to Mike, Barb and everyone at the DEC for keeping us informed.
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wonderful news........ ;D almost makes a dreary monday better.. 'almost'
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I was just coming to post the news.
thanks CArly
This is great news. I am so glad she is eating. that is a good sign .
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Oh that's such great news. I'm so happy to hear that Mariah is doing much better.
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But...before I go, late breaking news alert. New Rochester female identity confirmed and she's not who they first assumed her to be! She comes from good stock though!
Welcome to Beauty (and she's got a Canadian connection too...we are everywhere!!)
81/Y was was hatched and fledged in 2007 from the University of Pittsburgh’s Cathedral of Learning. Her parents are Erie *T/W (1998 Rhodes State Office Tower, Columbus, Ohio) and Dorothy 5/*A (1999 Firstar Center, Milwaukee, Wisconsin). Erie’s parents were an unbanded male named Bandit and his 1st mate Aurora red 4R0 from Canada. Dorothy’s parents were Bill 74T (hacked in 1991 from Madison Wisconsin) and Sibella 20V (hacked in 1988 from Isle Royale, Keweenaw County, Michigan).
Full details at Imprints..as always!
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
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It's always wonderful to get the "family tree". Come on falcons....fly free to the road of recovery!
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But...before I go, late breaking news alert. New Rochester female identity confirmed and she's not who they first assumed her to be! She comes from good stock though!
Welcome to Beauty (and she's got a Canadian connection too...we are everywhere!!)
81/Y was was hatched and fledged in 2007 from the University of Pittsburgh’s Cathedral of Learning. Her parents are Erie *T/W (1998 Rhodes State Office Tower, Columbus, Ohio) and Dorothy 5/*A (1999 Firstar Center, Milwaukee, Wisconsin). Erie’s parents were an unbanded male named Bandit and his 1st mate Aurora red 4R0 from Canada. Dorothy’s parents were Bill 74T (hacked in 1991 from Madison Wisconsin) and Sibella 20V (hacked in 1988 from Isle Royale, Keweenaw County, Michigan).
Okay, here's something that might be interesting ... Aurora was a captive-bred chick from the Vet College in Saskatoon released in Aurora, Ontario in 1991. In 1990, we released some captive-bred chicks from the Vet College. Not sure how many breeding pairs they had at the time, so maybe one of the birds released here is related. Will see what I can find out but it will take awhile ....
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That is intrigueing news TPC, can't wait to hear what you find out!!
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Well, now we know why she is so feisty.
good news Carly.
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Archers dad Freedom has indeed lost his nest site to a younger male this year it has now been confirmed. Millie (Mississauga) is still at Port Colborne but the new younger male is un-named and from Buffalo, it is suspected Freedom lost a territorial dispute. Seems we are swapping falcons with New York these days :-\
http://www.peregrine-foundation.ca/w/2009/04/sightings/changing-of-the-guard-in-port-colborne/
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Oh no...poor Freedom! Any word of an injured or I don't want to say it... falcon?
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No no word of any injured falcons found and I did ask Frank when he originally told me and they said nothing was found. It fortunately doesn't always end up being fatal, hopefully he will turn up elsewhere.
I was actually not surprised to be honest with you. He didn't seem fully committed to Millie, he was off romancing the loser of Millie's territorial battle last year at the same time he was with Millie and she spent alot of time alone raising Gunner. But towards the end of last season, he did renew his bond with her so what do I know. I often wonder in cases like that if the wronged mate doesn't look at a new potential mate and think 'hmm maybe this bird will be a better mate and provider for me and my offspring' and kind of help the situation along.
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Wow...I didn't think that happened! Interesting!
I know that if a mate doesn't return for the season, one is accepted, but I didn't think a male, after mating with his mate and having chicks, would mate with another...
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I'm not sure if he mated with her as that wasn't observed but he was seen by watchers courting her..doing aerial displays and bringing her food.
Here in Toronto - as Bev can attest to - we had a falcon who had 2 nests going at the same time one year. Two mates and two sets of offspring, one of his mates drove him off after the season as she was left alone most of the time to care for them and it was not easy as I believe she had 3 or 4 babies that year. In an even more interesting turn of events, one of the males at a nearby territory was actually seen dropping off food for her and her eyases - it not for that, they would probably have not survived.
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Awe....what a story, that's so amazing! :-*
I love Falcons!
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Carly, That is truly amazing. Thanks for sharing the story.
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The Queen continues to improve, what a falcon she is!!!
The Latest On Mariah’s Condition
April 23rd, 2009
Mike Allen has sent us another update from the vets in Syracuse who are taking care of Mariah…
Mariah is improving every day. The Dr. came here yesterday and reapplied the skin glue to both her neck wound and wing wound. We measured the neck wound and it had decreased in size to 1/2″ X 1/2″. We actually measured it with a ruler. It is very scabbed over and nice new granulation tissue is growing around it. At some point we will remove the torn flap of skin on her patagium, but wanted that to heal better first.
She will continue to have small cage rest for a couple of weeks and then we will move her to an outside mew. I bought a soft, shock absorbing yoga mat and tacked it onto a 10″ wide piece of plywood and covered it with new Astroturf. We are screwing it to the top of a large perch so that she has a flat surface to stand on, since peregrines are cliff dwelling birds.
She loves the fresh quail we got her this week and she readily takes all her Baytril twice daily. She is a wonderful little patient. The doctor also looked at her eyes yesterday and found no visual impairment. We have not x-rayed her since she is showing no signs of any fractures anywhere. Legs, wings, feet etc. are working well. She cast a pellet yesterday that was as long as a lemon. We will keep you posted.
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She cast a pellet yesterday that was as long as a lemon. We will keep you posted.[/i]
Its just like talking to parents of very young children ::)
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Great news about the queen of the skies!
Keep getting stronger Mariah...we're all thinking about you!
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Here in Toronto - as Bev can attest to - we had a falcon who had 2 nests going at the same time one year. Two mates and two sets of offspring, one of his mates drove him off after the season as she was left alone most of the time to care for them and it was not easy as I believe she had 3 or 4 babies that year. In an even more interesting turn of events, one of the males at a nearby territory was actually seen dropping off food for her and her eyases - it not for that, they would probably have not survived.
Carly, this is fascinating. Both bigamy and altruism in the falcon world! Thanks for these great tidbits of information.
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Eli,
this is off topic but if you check on the Edmonton site you will see that even 2 females cared for a clutch together and the now resident male took care of them all.
that is why he is so important to us.
http://www.expressnews.ualberta.ca/article.cfm?id=5826
I am so glad to hear of Mariahs continued improvement .Don't you just want to hug her :-* :-*
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That's a great article/story Bev, they just keep surprising us!!
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Bev, a great story. Now I know not only the history of the falcons at the Clinical Sciences Building, but how the Falcon Cam came about; this is not something you get to read about in our city newspapers.
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Amazing article Bev...most of these articles bring tears to my eyes.
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New update posted on Imprints about the Queen:
A Quick Update on Mariah
May 4th, 2009
Mike Allen sends this report from the Veterinary technician caring for Mariah:
The Dr. was here yesterday and checked her over thoroughly. Her wing wed is healing nicely and the neck wound is totally scabbed over. We trimmed off some of that flap of loose skin in the top of the wing and it is healing underneath. He will be back next Tuesday and said after that Mariah will be ready to go into an outdoor mew to stretch her wings and exercise.
Yet more good news
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I was so happy to see this update and to know that the Queen is doing so well.
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That a girl Mariah!!!!
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Mariah's daughter from last year Quest (transmitter girl ;)) is on the move and is now north of Toronto!!!! Maybe she wanted to visit Rhea Mae and see where Linn has gone to !!
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/?p=728#comments
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wow.. she's gone up to see my sister in Mansfield.. or she heard all about our big strong Canadian boys and wanted to try out some of our sweet MAPLE sugar men......... ;D
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Mariah's daughter from last year Quest (transmitter girl ;)) is on the move and is now north of Toronto!!!! Maybe she wanted to visit Rhea Mae and see where Linn has gone to !!
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/?p=728#comments
She'll probably be quite transient for at least this year, maybe next year too. Going to be interesting to see where she wanders to - will she stay in the east or will she head west along the Great Lakes and then onto the Prairies and all the potholes/marshes where there are lots of other young (non-breeding) peregrines. Don't believe we have ever had an eastern bird out west so it would be cool if she were the first given what we know of her history and connections in the east.
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Would be very cool if she went out to see you TPC...Go West Young Girl..Go West :D
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these New York birds love Ontario. but Alberta is good also. or Saskatchewan . we need some there.
what have you told them Loriann :) :) ;) ;)
an I am so happy that my girl Mariah is doing so well. :-*
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Welcome to Canada, Quest! I wonder where she is headed. Mariah and Kaver's juvies have had a tendency to head north - Freedom, Skye, Linn, Rhea Mae, Ranger . . .
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Quest is continuing on her travels, borderhopping back and forth between the U.S. and Canada. ;D She has been as far west as Napoleon, Ohio and most recently has been back in Canada. The 2 most recent reports located her at Nottawasaga Bay west of Orilla. Isn't that Ontario cottage country? Maybe someone will spot her on the May long weekend. Or, if she only continued northwest she could make it to Manitoba. :D Go west Quest ;D
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We need some falcons in Saskatchewan...maybe she could go there?
Any more news on Mariah and her recovery?
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Not yet allikat. She was due to see the vet again today so perhaps tonight or tomorrow we should have another progress report on Mariah.
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Thanks Carly...
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Great news...Mariah's daughter linn has been confirmed at one of the Scarborough sites finally! And she's not alone and they are in full courtship mode! A bit later than everyone else but definitely not too late!
Full report here: http://www.peregrine-foundation.ca/w/2009/05/sightings/linn-from-rochester-new-york-is-back-at-scarborough-bell-nest-stie/
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WOW....GREAT NEWS!!!! ;D
Thank you Carly! I love wonderful news!
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A new update on Mariah this evening on Imprints. I am so glad she is doing so well. I wonder if they have moved her into a larger area yet.
Mike Allen from the DEC forwarded this very positive update from Mariah’s caretakers.
The doctor was here today and we got a very good look at Mariah’s wing and neck. All the scabs on her wing have dropped off and she has beautiful skin that has grown where they were. Her neck has a big scab that is all dried up and is ready to just fall off. The skin underneath looks great. Mariah’s feathers are in perfect condition. When the time comes, we expect it will be a wonderful release. I love these happy ending stories.
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Finally!! Thanks Alison. I don't even want to think about her release given what she would be going back to ... :-\
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Was kinda hoping they wouldn't release her and that they would use her as an ambassador bird (live Bev has suggested).
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Was kinda hoping they wouldn't release her and that they would use her as an ambassador bird (live Bev has suggested).
For a wild breeding bird that has all its faculties, captivity as an ambassador bird can be a definite decrease in her quality of life. Peregrines are not easily trainable birds (for the most part) as adult captures and from the way this one can fight, captivity could be extremely hard on her, despite the best efforts of I'm sure some very capable and considerate people. We had a peregrine that lost its wing and therefore had to be kept and it never did calm down enough to work effectively as an ambassador. Beautiful bird, great handler, but he almost always hurt himself when he was "working". That's stressful on the bird and the handler(s).
Besides, given her willpower, determination and sheer bloody-mindedness, wouldn't you prefer those genes in the wild than her entertaining in a mall somewhere. And before you ask, putting a bird into a breeding program is just making it an ambassador, far from a guarantee and maybe not in the best interests of the bird. All are necessary and worthwhile occupations, but for this bird, which would you imagine would give her the greatest quality of life?
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Now the question is where and when to release her safely so she doesn't immediately try to reclaim her territory ...
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Never thought of it like that. I guess human emotion steps in again not wanting Mariah to get badly injured again. But as you explained TPC, and again, very well, it would be more stressful to the bird. And YES, her genes would be better passed on to more chicks as she is a wonderful mother! Would much prefer her to have a great rest of her life in the wild than being indoors.
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Breaking News and Quite shocking from kfalconcam:
Mariah was released on Tue., May 26 at approximately 3:30 p.m. in the Montezuma Wetland Complex. She is in good health and headed North upon release. She has new bling, a US Fish and Wildlife band on her right leg which has been covered with blue tape with a yellow racing stripe in the middle. Carol Phillips commented that, "Mariah is free to be a Peregrine again." Carol is right, Mariah is back where she belongs in the wild. So please keep your eyes open when you are downtown.
Link here to message posted: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/98565
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Thsnk you Carly for that news. I have to say that no matter what happens I am incredibly happy that Mariah is free as she should be. :-*
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Ditto, just shocked at Mariah for recovering so fast - what a strong falcon she is...the way they went on, I thought she'd be in rehab for months, a testament to what a great falcon she is! I looked up the wetlands area where they released her and it sounds beautiful, the perfect place for her to get her 'wings' back.
I hope Mariah decides to enjoy her newfound freedom and - who knows maybe she'll run into Kaver again ;) Where ever she goes, she will always be the Queen of the skies!
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Fly high in the sky Mariah...
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Imprints has the 'official announcement of Mariah's release' posted today including a comment from Mike Allen from the DEC.
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/?p=732#comment-12481
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Falcon has been spotted at the Kodak Tower this morning...Mariah's old haunt. Watchers on their way now to see if it's Mariah come home! apparently it's one of Mariah's favorite spots on the tower and said falcon has been there most of the morning ....
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Thanks for the news Carly.
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Watchers are 99% sure it's Mariah back on her home turf...I wonder if it's far enough away from the new area the other pair is...hope so!
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Latest Falcon Watch report confirms it's Mariah - they saw the split wing! The Queen is home and she's stooping crows at the Kodak. ;D
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Way to go Mariah ;D Hopefully Beauty and Archer are too busy to notice that she is back.
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Well Beauty was at Mid Town for quite awhile and it seemed ok, she chose there to nest so maybe all she wanted was Mariahs' beau as she shows zero interest in the Kodak and Mariah loves the Kodak..so hoping this can work out if both stay in their corners. Apparently Mariah is even tolerating the work men who are doing the repair work on the Kodak building so maybe she's just happy to be home.
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From one of the watchers in NY today:
Mariah Returns to the Kodak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNfMZqf13Fg
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Very good news indeed.
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Mariah doesn't have chicks to protect so she should be willing to avoid real conflict for this year ... may annoy Beauty and Archer for the summer, but maybe not ...
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Thanks, Carly. That video showed one gloriously vigourous falcon. Go Mariah!
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Bird can navigate from New York to South America and back year after year, she can find "home" let loose anywhere in few state radius :D
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I was just looking at the Rochester multicam, and WHOA the first cam now is a shot of the Kodak tower. :o ;D ;D ;D Really hoping to catch a glimpse of our heroine Mariah.
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So I went to Imprints and posted today just to ask if what I had read about Mariah and Beauty's areas are not within the same territory and someone clarified it for me and they even linked a map. Apparently what I had read before wasn't quite accurate and they are only about 1 mile apart but are separated by a river. But no one knows if the Midtown building is considered within Mariah's territory or not, the other place where Beautfy was with Zephyr was a different building and 2-3 miles from the Kodak.
Glad I asked though even if that's not the reply I was looking for. Going to keep my talons crossed that each stays on their respective sides of the river!!
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Oh I knew it wouldnt' stay quiet here for long, I'm going to call it 'As The Peregrine Turns'. Apparently Mariah and Archer - yes grandson who tried to kill her' were seen flying together twice today. Just waiting on them to post the report on the site now to get the details.
So I guess they don't remember if someone tried to kill them TPC?
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Watcher report posted:
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/98720
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So I guess they don't remember if someone tried to kill them TPC?
Doesn't seem so from what I've heard, or at least between male-female. Beauty may be occupied at the moment if she's on eggs ... is she?
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Yes they are 99.9% sure she's incubating. They have no access to the suspected nest area and there is no cam there so no one has seen to confirm the eggs or how many. The watchers have deduced by behaviour, she's on the ledge out of view and they have seen shift changes between Archer and Beauty and they've seen him bringing her food. During shift change she will sit on some fire escape stairs for a bit and preen and eat then she goes right back to the suspected nest site and Archer gets up and they switch places.
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Yup, sounds like incubating to me ... :)
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Oh I hope Mariah just stays put in her territory!
It's such great news that she is hunting for herself and flying strong...Way to go Mariah!
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Holy..knew it wouldn't stay quiet here long. High drama iin Rochester and Mariah gets some payback ...!!
Seems the watchers think Beauty and Archers eggs weren't viable, both are off them and behaviour changed now - no sitting on eggs. Mariah made her move downtown and Beauty spotted within viewing range of Mariah!!!
Mariah seen stooping another falcon and a bald eagle!! No one knows what happened but they saw 3 falcons flying together and 1 was a tiercel. Mariah is still flying around so she's not hurt!! Let's hope she continues to stay safe..
See details: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/98869
Stay tuned....
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holy ..... now that's a story.
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So Mariah let go of the eagle, presumably it was too heavy for her to continue flying and, if not killed on impact, was fairly likely to fight back? But why would a PF not realize it was an eagle and just not attack it? Or do they sometimes predate on eagles?!?
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Oh Mariah...don't get into any trouble! We all love you and want you to be safe..Be careful there girl!!!
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So Mariah let go of the eagle, presumably it was too heavy for her to continue flying and, if not killed on impact, was fairly likely to fight back? But why would a PF not realize it was an eagle and just not attack it? Or do they sometimes predate on eagles?!?
Mariah was being over-optimistic attacking an eagle. Eagles are not peregrine predators and they are twice the size and 3-4 times the weight. There is no way that Mariah could carry it for even a moment. The bird the report says Mariah stooped on was peregrine sized, could have been a peregrine or a crow - she's obviously will harass crows (not unusual for peregrines, most adults & juveniles do) and both of those she most certainly could kill. Hopefully if its a peregrine they will find the body, if it was a crow, probably no one will report it.
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Thanks for the comments, TPC.
Mariah was being over-optimistic attacking an eagle.
It must have been quite a sight!
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Thanks for the comments, TPC.
Mariah was being over-optimistic attacking an eagle.
It must have been quite a sight!
The great birds are great birds for good reason(s) ... :D
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Maybe she was trying to establish order in her 'domain' and tell everyone 'this is my territory' :P Or maybe she was just happy to be home after spending a few months with the humans :-\
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Yesterday's falcon watch report, ongoing interaction between 3 falcons.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/98943
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At last, a few pics of Mariah have been added to Imprints. It is amazing how well she has healed.
For the full size pics and pics of her healed injuries:
http://rfalconcam.com/imprints/
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/june%202009/in-hand-and-calmmariah3.jpg) (http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/june%202009/special-band-rt-legmariah3.jpg)
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/june%202009/free-at-last-1mariah3.jpg)
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And part of an update on Beauty and Archer:
"Speaking of updates, the news on Archer and Beauty is that they’ve apparently moved from the narrow ledge on the Midtown Plaza Tower. It looks like they abandoned any eggs they may have laid. Our watchers haven’t witnessed any nesting-like behavior from the pair for the past several days now. Whether they did lay eggs that failed or didn’t lay any is something we may never learn. The ledge where they’d been spending their time is very narrow and without a bucket truck or some similar conveyance physical access to the ledge is nearly impossible.
So where’d they move to? As it turns out, Archer and Beauty headed a few blocks west and across the river, ending up at the Times Square Building. . . ."
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/june%202009/archeratbox20090610.jpg) (http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/june%202009/archer-beautyatbox20090610.jpg)
Archer Archer and Beauty
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A pic of Mariah being released was posted on Imprints this evening. She looked ready to go:
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/june%202009/mariahbeingreleased2.jpg)
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Boy did she ever! And go she did! Don't wait up..buh bye!! Great shot!
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Great report on Rochester posted, Mariah and ... Beauty seeing flying together!! No aggression, no fighting, no vocalizing....I wonder if they revere her now since she rose from the ashes and came back...muhahaha! ;D
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/kfalconcam/message/100164
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They should....and will know better to mess with the goddess of the skies. ;D
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'Fraid they'll forget by next spring :o
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So once the hormones kick in next spring - it will be back to your battle stations then?
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Probably .... sorry ....
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Heh...no need to be sorry. I just find the whole situation interesting as no way our pair here would allow another adult to hang out in their territory - chicks or no chicks, they are pretty territorial. Everyone gets an escort out..lol..it's all very civilized. First time I've heard of anything like this...it's actually kind of cool. Maybe if another male comes on the scene - things will change again.
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Probably .... sorry ....
No need for sorry's TPC...it's the rules of the skies!
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Maybe the two female falcons were displaying a nice moment together because same gender events happen in the animal kingdom all the time? Like two female human friends?
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I like that Eagle...
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Thank-you Allikat. yeah they will probably go back to hating one another next spring but for today they were friends. It's my story and I am sticking to it lol
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Let's go with that...we know what really happens but this just makes it better and a happy day! :D
Oh, and you're welcome!
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falcons will be falcons!!
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The truce has ended. Apparently Mariah was in a battle with both Beauty and Archer yesterday as they invaded the Kodak Tower. God, I hope she's alright. :-X :-X
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No updates yet on Mariah but the other two are back at their nestbox... :-\
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Update from Carol on Imprints:
Just a quick update -
On Sunday morning, 7/19, both Archer and Beauty were on the Kodak Tower. Mariah returned and (we believe) chased A&B off. Both A&B ended up in the gorge. Archer on the gorge wall, below the observation deck and Beauty in the Shady Tree (also on the east side gorge wall).
All was calm for a quite a long time. Then according to Brian, Beauty flew out of the gorge towards the K-Tower, Mariah came off and an aerial battle was begun. Mariah was doing all the chasing and Beauty would go talons up.
It all changed when Archer joined in. Once she was double teamed, Mariah flew off towards the North. Smart girl! Beauty returned to the K-Tower and landed on the Launch Pad.
Beauty then flew downtown and both she and Archer entered the Times Square nest box.
When we left last night, Archer and Beauty were still at the Times Square nest box and we weren’t sure where Mariah was. As far as we know, no Peregrines were hurt.
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Thank you Carly for those updates on Mariah...hope she stays out of trouble!
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No sign of Mariah all day. I've been checking kfalcon and just got myself set up to get live 'twitter' updates on my pc from the watchers channels and as of 6 minutes ago..she is nowhere to be found. Archer and Beauty are all over the gorge apparently but no Mariah. I guess they've driven her out :'( Hope she is safe somewhere.
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No sign of Mariah all day. I've been checking kfalcon and just got myself set up to get live 'twitter' updates on my pc from the watchers channels and as of 6 minutes ago..she is nowhere to be found. Archer and Beauty are all over the gorge apparently but no Mariah. I guess they've driven her out :'( Hope she is safe somewhere.
Hey.....chin up Carly. As long as Mariah is okay! She will get her own territory and her own mate...she will!
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Carly, you are such a caring one. It's probably going to be good news you receive, as no peregrine injuries were likely from the reports, and she's off to find her own place.
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Early morning post from one of the watchers:
At 7:00 am, there was a Falcon sitting up on the north side launch pad of Kodak Office between the rockets. This is a spot that I see Mariah a lot. Can I be 100% sure it was her? No, but I do believe it was. Nice way to start my day
Let's hope she can continue to elude those other 2.
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From Shaky on the Rochester forum today:
Carol P reported seeing Mariah on the north side of the launch pad on Kodak tower around 7 am.
If anyone would recognize Mariah, it would be Carol; she is the one who rescued Mariah earlier this year, saving her life after she was badly injured by Archer and Beauty.
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Still no sign of Mariah since that one sighting by Carol, here is Carol's reply to queries about her on kfalcon:
Mariah
We all worry about her Kris and we're definitely keeping an eye out for her.
Our Watch has expanded to the north of the Kodak Tower, where Mariah seems to
fly off to.
We have no reason to believe that she is hurt. She's probably just keeping away from the downtown area right now. Mariah's a very smart Peregrine. :-)
Carol P.
Keep safe Mariah..we're all rooting for you 8)
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I have faith in Mariah... :)
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Keep in mind folks that she has no reason to hang out in her old stomping grounds (no mate, no chicks or fledglings) and no reason to put up with being harrassed by Beauty and Archer. She is probably just touristing. When this has happened with our birds, I usually just have to wait until the next spring.
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Good points TPC. As long as she is alive and free, I'm happy for her. Was just worried they have gotten her again but it seems like she got away. Perhaps some 'touristing' will enable her to find a new mate or maybe she can just enjoy being a 'wanderer' for a change. 8)
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Just touristing, avoiding trouble and not needing to look after fledgling training sound like great activities for building back strength for another season.
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Still no sightings of Mariah. I hope she's okay. :(
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Still no sightings of Mariah. I hope she's okay. :(
Me too, I keep checking daily to see if anyone has spotted her. :-\
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Interesting New report up from Carol (Mariah's Guardian Angel!!)
7/27 - Noon hour Watch - Watchers: Dan S, Lisa McK, Kristen, Nico, Lynda and Carol P enjoyed a beautiful afternoon Watch today. and we had a little excitement to make the hour go really, really fast.
All I can say is that there were two Falcons flying over the river and over and around the old Changing Scenes Restaurant. Witnesses are split on what happened. Was it Archer and Beauty in a courtship flight, or Beauty and another female doing battle? There was definitely some talon touching between the two and to me, they both appeared to be very close in size.
Later we ID’d one as Beauty, but we cannot be sure if the other Falcon was Mariah or not. No split wing was seen by veteran Watcher Dan S. Dan also said he was surprised to see a little submissive flying from the Falcon we believe was Beauty. She was flying with her wings drooping just a bit, like a juvenile would fly when begging for food from an adult. I didn’t notice this, but my binoculars aren’t the best.
Lisa and I were of the opinion that it was more an aerial battle than a courtship flight between Archer and Beauty. Dan wasn’t so sure. At far distances, it is very hard to tell.
First we believe that Beauty sped towards us, flying over the bridge and down the side of the Genesee Brewery heading north east. A moment later, the other Falcon followed and we lost them on the north side of the Brewery. Lisa and I walked down to the west end of the bridge to check out the north east sky, but we couldn’t spot either Falcon.
When Lisa and I returned to the group, we were told that Beauty had returned and was on the gorge wall, east side. She eventually flew into the Shady Tree.
That’s where I left her at the end of my Watch.
We’ll keep Watching!
Carol P.
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We all want Mariah (IF it was her) to be in her element as she deserves it.
Please be careful Mariah...
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Interesting report - but without knowing who the second falcon was it's difficult to know what it means. I hope it was not a battle between Mariah and Beauty.
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From Carol P. on the Rochester forum this evening:
We Found Mariah and she Looks Wonderful!
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/July%202009/mariah.jpg)
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This is great news Thanks Allison for the update
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Heh...first thing I saw this morning! Looks like she's found new territory, close to her old home but out of range of the other two!!
http://rfalconcam.com/falconwatching/
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Way to go Mariah! That a girl!!!!! ;D
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A while back I had posted on another site about Mariah and Kaver's daughter Ihteram (born 2005) who had attempted to nest at St. Joseph in Detroit last year. The people there had apparently promised to install a nest box, but this year the steeple was covered with netting to keep out the falcons. They didn't want them returning. >:(
I hadn't heard anything since, but had this reply yesterday from BarbB:
Ihteram and her unbanded mate established a strong pair bond, but did not nest at St. Joseph Church in Detroit last year. Someone from the Michigan Department of Natural Resources climbed the inside of the tower to check for nesting and discovered a dead female Peregrine who had been banded. She was Blaze 68/C (hatched May 8, 2005 at the Bohn Building, Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio).
Since last season, the church repaired the tower including the hole in the screening where the Peregrine Falcons and pigeons were gaining access. We had no sightings of Ihteram this year in the Detroit area.
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I remember reading about Iteram! So sorry to hear about Blaze though >:(
I hope Iteram and her mate have found a new home where they are welcome and thriving.
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So sorry to hear about Blaze though >:(
I hope Iteram and her mate have found a new home where they are welcome and thriving.
I'm sorry about Blaze too - I can't help wondering if she and Ihteram had a battle and she lost . . . I hope Ihteram and her mate are safe too.
Archer and Beauty were at the nest this morning. I rarely watch these two; every time I look at them I think of all the injuries they inflicted on Mariah. Maybe in time that will change.
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Beauty at the nest this morning:
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WOW...what a nestbox! :o
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sheesh - a large deck, a ladder, and shelter! Quite the posh place.
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Swiss Family Robinson??
A little bit bigger and I'd move in there. :)
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sheesh - a large deck, a ladder, and shelter! Quite the posh place.
And oh so tidy and clean!
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Beauty and Archer at the nest this morning Archer
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At the nest this morning; Archer waiting for Beauty, then bowing deeply to her.
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That is one big female ... he's not all that small a male ...
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I thought she was just puffed up but looking at the previous pictures, she is huge!
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That second picture sure does show off that she is one big falcon....she barely fits in that nestbox. No wonder Mariah had trouble with these two. She is huge!
Any mention of Mariah at all anyone?
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Any mention of Mariah at all anyone?
Not that we know of. I check the Rochester forums daily and there hasn't been any confirmed sightings of her for over a month now. They might have seen a falcon that could have been her but was unable to ID the bird in question.
NO news is Good News I'm thinking in this case ;)
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That is one big female ... he's not all that small a male ...
She is a good sized falcon. Mariah is also a substantial size.
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/August%202009/MainCamera_HighRes_20091001-0939a.jpg) (http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/August%202009/MainCamera_HighRes_20091001-0940a.jpg)
Archer at the nest this morning Archer and Beauty together
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/August%202009/MainCamera_HighRes_20091001-0949a.jpg)
Beauty, demonstrating her "Don't mess with me" look
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After no sightings for a long while, the Queen has been spotted!! She's alive, she's well and she ain't going nowhere ;D ;D
http://rfalconcam.com/forum/index.php?topic=630.msg4216#msg4216
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North of the border the "falcon dance" is called the "yippee-skippee" ;D
(and if you have no idea what "falcon dance" I'm talking about, click here for the Rochester Falcon Forum entry (http://rfalconcam.com/falconwatching/?p=335)
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Glad to see Mariah is still around & looking good.
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I've seen a short/ abreviated version of the yippee/skippee/falcon dance.
Totally and completely happy, goofy look on the face making. ;D ;D
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Very happy to know that Mariah is still here and strong!
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It's so good to know that Mariah has been positively identified (and she has been seen at the mall again). She looks in really good condition, strong, healthy and beautiful.
Photos by Joyce:
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/August%202009/mariah2a.jpg) (http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/August%202009/mariah3a.jpg)
(http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o337/quintara2/August%202009/mariah1a.jpg)
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Oh she is a beauty! VERY happy to see her!!! She looks fantastic!
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Speaking of the Queen! I sent an email to the Lennox Power Plant this week regarding Quest (Mariahs' girl with the transmitter) and got a reply back!
They are going to keep an eye out for her as she has been tracking in the area for the past month or so. They said they have a nest box there on one of the towers but it has never been occupied - I know from Frank it was a hack box once upon a time!
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Great captures - thanks!
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Speaking of the Queen! I sent an email to the Lennox Power Plant this week regarding Quest (Mariahs' girl with the transmitter) and got a reply back!
They are going to keep an eye out for her as she has been tracking in the area for the past month or so. They said they have a nest box there on one of the towers but it has never been occupied - I know from Frank it was a hack box once upon a time!
Thank you for the update, Carly! It's good news that there is a nest box on one of the towers. I was wondering if anyone on the forum is anywhere near this area - it would be great if someone could actually have a sighting of Quest there.
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An update on Sabrina, one of Mariah and Kaver's chicks from 2006, on Imprints:
You may recall that back in April we learned that Sabrina, from Mariah and Kaver’s 2006 brood, had taken residence in a nest box on the Ogdensburg-Prescott International Bridge. Two strong signals on the morning of the 30th place Quest within one mile (1.6 km) of the bridge. Could she have been paying a visit to her brother?
Did you catch that? Yep, we said brother. It’s not a typo. Courtesy of June Summers comes word that the folks monitoring the nest box on the Ogdensburg-Prescott International Bridge witnessed mating between our Sabrina and the other resident female, with Sabrina in the male role. June attended a recent state-wide Audubon Society conference where she recieved the news. She also learned that Sabrina/Valiant and his mate produced one eyas this year which unfortunately did not survive. So our supposition that Sabrina is a male has been verified, and it looks like a name change is in order!
It's always great to hear news of another of Mariah and Kaver's offspring. 2006 was the year when Mariah had a very serious leg injury during the breeding season -- the leg appeared to be fractured and she was unable to use it at all. She laid six eggs that year. Kaver stepped up and did almost everything while Mariah was injured. Three of the chicks survived.
Sabrina as a juvie: photo by Jim Pisello.
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/wingshigh/Buckeye/Peregrines/sabrina.jpg)
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That was the year I started watching Mariah and Kyver and was so impressed by the pair.
I hope Sabrina, LOL, has a successful season this year. I remember at the time we discussed whether she was male becasue she fledged so much ahead of the others and was such a strong flier.
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2010 NESTING SEASON
And the fighting begins already! Beauty had a brief aerial battle with another female yesterday but it was NOT Mariah this time.
http://rfalconcam.com/forum/index.php?topic=1116.msg7017#msg7017
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Tis the fate of successful nestsites ... they are popular/sought-after sites for a reason ...
If Mariah should try to retake the site, she could well do it - remember last year Beauty expended effort fighting for her site than raising young. Mariah had lots of food and rest instead. Don't discount the value of a forced sabbatical!
Looks like Rochester is going to be as interesting as last :D
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Yes I expect it will be! Archer is suspected to have migrated for the winter as he hasn't been seen for a few months now. They did spend alot of time bonding at the nest box before he left. Let's hope he has migrated and not vanished like Kaver! But I guess we won't know for a few more weeks!
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I can't wait!
Mariah...just be smart now okay.
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Two falcons sighted here today and one of them isn't Archer! This sure is a popular site!!!
http://rfalconcam.com/forum/index.php?topic=1382.msg8699#msg8699
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Drama, drama, drama at the Kodak Tower! Should be one exciting year!
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Well maybe not. No sign of Archer at all in months and that new male is gone. He might have been part of a migrating pair that was seen around the area. BEauty is being spotted on her own buzzing around but once again...seems to be no males around as of yet.
Maybe Mariah is heading them off at the pass somewhere..lol ;)
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Woohoooooooooooooo! Watchers have just confirmed that Archer is BACK!! He was ID'd today with Beauty in the nest box bowing to each other!! Yay!!! ;D ;D
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Here is the official Imprints update with a photo of them!
http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/
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thks carly, I have added it to my cam sites.
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Watchers are reporting another Female in the territory the past 2 days with confrontations between Beauty and unknown female. Hoping it's not Mariah!
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If it is Mariah, she's had more time to build up her reserves than Beauty. Even having been injured last year and recouperating, she didn't have to expend resources producing and raising young. If it is Mariah, she could take Beauty despite the differences in ages ...
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Beauty just laid her first egg!!!!! :o And there were 3 falcons at the nestbox someone said and war has ensued???
Okay someone is back with the egg...phew.
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things seem calm at the moment.
I am thinking not Mariah as she was not interested in this box last year. she kept going back to the tower.
Even after her release she went back to tower. But jsut when yu think you know them ??????
Hopefully whoever it was, got the message because with Beauty egg laden, she is no match . I think that is why Archer helped out.
Hopefully calm waters now. Such beautiful birds and a grandchild for Mariah.
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Egg #2 in the wee hours of this morning. I will try and get some pcitures but am very busy.
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3 eggs now. reported after 8 this morning
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x135/fullbrandt/bev38/rochesterapril13-1.jpg) (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x135/fullbrandt/bev38/rochesterapril13-2.jpg)
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Yes on of the eggs was cracked, photos on Imprints so Beauty removed it. BTW Quest was down in Maine again after the Port Colbourne incident so she was obviously just passing through.
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The egg which was removed looked like an infertile egg. Photo from Imprints:
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/wingshigh/Buckeye/Peregrines/image002-9-1.jpg)
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Beauty with the three remaining eggs:
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/wingshigh/Buckeye/Peregrines/image002-52-1-1.jpg)
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First hatch here a little after 3 pm!!! Congratulations to Archer and Beauty and to all the Rochester fans who have waited patiently and endured so much the past year!!
;D ;D
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Congratulations to Beauty and Archer!
One hatch or two? These pieces of eggshell might be too large to make up one egg:
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/wingshigh/Buckeye/Peregrines/image002-1296-1.jpg)
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Looks like it could be 2 hatches. :-\
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Looks like it could be 2 hatches. :-\
Yes, there are two chicks!
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What a great view, it's like you are right in there with her!!
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Beauty with the two chicks today:
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/wingshigh/Buckeye/Peregrines/MainCamera_20100523-141400.jpg)
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Beauty looking proud of her chicks:
(http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/wingshigh/Buckeye/Peregrines/May%202010/MainCamera_20100526-164500a.jpg)
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Beauty looking proud of her chicks:
She does look proud of her chicks, Alison! And Beauty sure is a beauty! :D
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Banding of the two beauties today at 10:00 am and they will be showing it live on the webcam! Directions here as they have both refresh and live streaming cams.
http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/
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Two girls :-* :-*
Jemison-- 95/w (black over green) with blue tape
Callidora-- 96/w (black over green) with red tape
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I really like these names. :) Could be called "Jemi" and "Calli", for short. ;)
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It is so cool the chics have fledged and they are fillowing then around with a remote cam. The chics are on 2 different buildings and they have a cam on each one it is so cool to watch them fledge!
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7969874
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/rochester-falcons-at-times-square-nest-box
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Part of the reason they have so much coverage is that they didn't know where they would nest this year. When Kodak started renovating and before our Mariah lost her territory they put up several nest boxes in the area and had 3 of them hooked up with cams hoping she would choose one. I think they moved one of the cams from the other boxes over to this one they've chosen which accounts for all the great coverage!
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Thank you for the info carly :)
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I love this ustreaming.......I know they have lots of coverage due to adding other nestboxes, but this is fantastic!
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2011 NESTING SEASON
Question marks because Archer migrated as usual and a new male has been spotted bonding with Beauty the past few weeks.
Anyway, Quest (Mariah & Kaver's daugher with the transmitter) has been photographed on a balcony railing in Kingston, Ontario!
http://www.peregrine-foundation.ca/w/2011/01/sightings/quest-photographed-in-kingston-ontario-jan-4th-2011/ (http://www.peregrine-foundation.ca/w/2011/01/sightings/quest-photographed-in-kingston-ontario-jan-4th-2011/)
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OMG! This is indeed very exciting news! ;D A peregrine falcon in my home town! 8) And my sister still lives there and works down near the harbour, so now I am going to have her keep an eye out for it! ;D
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ARCHER IS HOME!!! No sign of Mr T or a fight so far..hopefully he is okay and safe. Archer and Beauty flying around together and were seen bowing at the box earlier..everyone is happy he's home down there :)
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Well things are certainly not working out here as hoped so far. Beauty laid one egg on April 1st and nothing since despite a few attempts. To top it all off, watchers suspect Archer may be two timing with a female who is in an adjacent territory.
And yes ARcher was born in Southern Ontario...I'm telling you it's something in the water :-\
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Figures soon as I post...Beauty finally lays Egg #2!!! Eight days later!! :-*
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Figures soon as I post...Beauty finally lays Egg #2!!! Eight days later!! :-*
Eight days later! :o Is that unusual? :-\
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Eight days later! :o Is that unusual? :-\
It is yes but it has happened before and eggs hatched ok. Beauty and Archer have been caring for the single egg so it should be fine.
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Figures soon as I post...Beauty finally lays Egg #2!!! Eight days later!! :-*
Eight days later! :o Is that unusual? :-\
It is yes but it has happened before and eggs hatched ok. Beauty and Archer have been caring for the single egg so it should be fine.
Incubation is when the eggs "get cooking", before that, so long as they don't freeze, they can last a surprisingly long time!!
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...so long as they don't freeze, they can last a surprisingly long time!!
Thanks for clarifying this, TPC. :) I didn't know that.
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Egg #3 for Beauty and Archer this morning! Archer has also been seen mating with his other wife now they've confirmed! Looks like Jack has a buddy!
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2014 NESTING SEASON
Those who enjoy fireworks might want to click on “Rfalconcam” live streaming now, as they turn at least one of their cams to the fireworks at 10:00 pm, but they are 1 hr ahead of us. Sorry I just remembered now, have been busy lately.
http://rfalconcam.com/rfc-main/streamView.php (http://rfalconcam.com/rfc-main/streamView.php)
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2015 NESTING SEASON
GCG has been tracking some of the US nests and found this neat Facebook post on the Canton Ohio peregrine site about hatching in response to the recent hatches at Rochester.
(https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11150674_841843122517638_6512065821127367972_n.jpg?oh=73d1ec92a619d7e380fea34d527f2cf4&oe=55D181DD) (https://scontent-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/11143295_841605529208064_5724333331252910534_n.jpg?oh=24c1adef2f194b9103db9d6d0b0fed51&oe=55D38504)
Photos from the RFalconCam Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rfalconcam/138082889560335?fref=photo) / Rochester, New York
(Nominee for best newly-hatched chick photo in my humble opinion)
From the Canton Ohio Peregrine Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/cantonohiosperegrines)
At Rochester, NY, the cam can zoom in, and here we can see how the chick inside the egg has to break the eggshell all the way around the end, from the inside. What a mighty struggle it is!! Imagine being doubled over and using your thumbnail to crack the shell, all the while slowly turning inside a cylinder, with no room to stretch,only a tiny space for your thumb to hammer away enough to hopefully break enough of the way around the end to finally push off the cap piece to be free! Gives me claustraphobia thinking about it!! Quite the amazing endeavor!!
Thanks for passing these along GCG!
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The resident female at Rochester is Beauty, born in Pittsburgh in 2007. She is banded black/green 81/Y, and is a daughter of Dorothy and her former mate Erie at the Cathedral of Learning nest.
The resident male is Dot.Ca, born at the Etobicoke, Ontario nest in 2010. He is banded black/black 13/Y. He is known as DC.