Manitoba Falcon Cam Forum
Manitoba Peregrines => Radisson Peregrines => Topic started by: Peggeratheart on May 24, 2008, 13:28
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For some reason every time I check up on the web cam I see Princess on eggs. Anyone seen Trey recently?
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I saw him yesterday afternoon and I'm pretty sure he had the night shift last night. Princess and Trey are pretty equal partners when it comes to incubation.
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Thanks for your reply!
I suppose I am just not looking at the right times.
I'll keep my eyes peeled for my sighting of Trey. ;)
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Hey, its Sunday morning,just watched Princess get off her eggs and dissapear. Trey comes in from front and center, now he is taking up his shift. Hope Princess goes somewhere and dries off. She was pretty ragged looking, must have spent a lot time in the rain and wind.
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Princess just got up and Trey got on....or Trey got up and Princess got on.. ;D .still 3 eggs...I didn't see any pipping...but really not long enough to get a good look at the eggs...Still looks very windy there...they are doing such a good job staying tight on the eggs...Way to go kids...
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hi there skyblue. I seen the switch too, I think its Trey on now, his head is very very black, looks like he has a helmet on. Princess has some spotting on hers towards the back neck area. Her head is not a vivid black and you can see these greyish spots. She is bigger too but its hard to tell by that. I go by there heads. :) Didn't princess look so tattered this morning? Looked like loose feathers and .... ohhh I am getting soo attached. :)
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hi there skyblue. I seen the switch too, I think its Trey on now, his head is very very black, looks like he has a helmet on. Princess has some spotting on hers towards the back neck area. Her head is not a vivid black and you can see these greyish spots. She is bigger too but its hard to tell by that. I go by there heads. :) Didn't princess look so tattered this morning? Looked like loose feathers and .... ohhh I am getting soo attached. :)
Thanks for that description...I'll use that when I'm watching them....She really did look pretty rough this morning....definitely a bad hair day for her....It really is amazing how attached we all get to these beautiful birds...and I can't believe how long I just stare at them...I gotta do a better job of it today and just turn them all off....(I wanted to see what purple looked like... ;D/b]
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Just registered so don't know if this has been asked - does the male look after feeding the female while she incubates the eggs or does she sort of fast to a point? sorry - meant to add that at 8:30 AM Sunday, caught glimpse of 2 eggs - 3rd. is probably okay - just didn't see it. Hope the hatching does hold off until the weather improves somewhat.
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Good Morning All,
It's 9:17 and I think it's Trey on the eggs!
He moved and I saw 2 eggs, couldn't see the third.
Hears hoping the chicks will hatch next week
when the weather here in Winnipeg will be better.
Doreen
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Hi Doreen, Its Trey on there right now. They switched a couple hours ago. All is well, except the darn weather. :)
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Trey's still tight on the eggs....getting a little windblown right now...occasionally he gives ya a look at one or two of the eggs...He's so cute...I think he's dozing...nope...now awake....
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Just registered so don't know if this has been asked - does the male look after feeding the female while she incubates the eggs or does she sort of fast to a point? sorry - meant to add that at 8:30 AM Sunday, caught glimpse of 2 eggs - 3rd. is probably okay - just didn't see it. Hope the hatching does hold off until the weather improves somewhat.
I'm no expert by any means, but what I've observed from other nests...the male will usually drop off prey...usually out of cam view, and the female will leave the eggs and go chow down and the male will take over egg sitting duty...they may be what happened this morning when Princess and Trey exchanged places...
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Trey's still on the eggs....he's so cute wiggling and wriggling around trying to get them all under him...
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Sunday, May 25, 2008 11h00
Just saw Trey get off the eggs and Princess took over! It is 12:00 Eastern (11 am in the Peg).
With the switch I saw three eggs in the nest.
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I saw Trey! I saw Trey!
When I was watching who I thought was Princess they made a switch. When the "new" bird came to the nest she was clearly Princess (grey head with lighter "crown" tufts). So I saw Trey even though I didn't realize it at the time ::)
Note to self: Princess had a crown, Trey doesn't.
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Same here!!!!...It was hard to tell if there was any pipping (chick beginning to break out of the egg)....but I don't think so...I can be patient...well sort of... ;D
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With the forcast for today not being too great, I hope they wait til it's warmer and dryer and less windy before the babies decide to come out of those eggs! :o
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It's raining quite hard here in Brandon, so I'm sure it's on the way to the Peg right now. Pretty windy too. :o The wind is high also coming from from the NE. Which side of the building is the nest on?
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Hi, Birdlover in Brandon. It's on the east side of the building, and the view we have is facing north. So they might get hit hard, poor things!
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So far so good - a bit windy as usual but no rain yet!! ;D I could see the 'Nice' nest box from last year(which has shelter) on my way to work this morning & couldn't help wishing the whole family would just pick up and move up there! ;) ;D
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Thanks for the info, Liz. If the Peg gets what we have been getting those kids are going to be drenched.
Boy this forum is making me crazy ??? Every time I go here and then back to the Falcon cam, whoever is sitting has changed position and I keep missing it!!!!
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Boy this forum is making me crazy ??? Every time I go here and then back to the Falcon cam, whoever is sitting has changed position and I keep missing it!!!!
Same here....until I thought, duh....open two windows.... ;)..no rain yet...but looks like maybe the wind has picked up...
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Now why didn't think of that? :-[ It's still raining here but not as hard, however, we still have winds 37 gusting to 53. Boy the birds here must be quite wet and hanging on beak and claw. LOL.
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Well, it looks like the rain has started...let's just hope its not too hard...and very brief...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4MT3Uo6Oyo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4MT3Uo6Oyo)
This is a short video of Princess on the nest. For those who want to check out her "crown" this video shows it well.
I will likely post a few videos when I see something interesting.
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Hey Doreen,
The best way to tell Princess and Trey apart is to look at their heads. Trey has a full black cap. Princess has some lighter coloured feathers at the back - makes me think of a crown which seems appropriate. Also, she has a few white feathers over the bridge of her beak which Trey doesn't have, but you can't always see them clearly. You can also look at their breasts but with the wind they are sitting flatter and it can be harder to see clearly. Princess' speckles run almost up to her chin. Trey has a full white breast.
Don't worry Doreen, it takes some practice but you'll be able to tell them apart at twenty metres by the time the chicks fly!
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Actually, Princess and Trey are pretty much equal partners when it comes to incubating. Usually they trade off shifts - the incubator will get off the eggs and go fly off the ledge just to the right of the eggs and the other one will walk in from the bottom of the screen to take the next shift. Occasionally Trey does bring food, but that usually happens earlier in incubation or when she's on duty and the weather sucks. He comes in, drops the food on the ledge, she hops off the eggs and takes off with the food and he takes over. She usually disappears for a couple of hours before relieving him on the nest. Some days we watch Trey do most of the incubating, some days Princess. Today it has been mostly Princess.
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* clap clap clap *
Congrats Pegger!
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Y'all are having way too much fun watching napping birds! :D
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Thanks Tracy for clearing that up. Been wondering sometimes when I see one bird leap off the ledge and then another one show up front and center. Until i could tell them apart, I always wondered if she just went for a (poopy) or something! and came right back, or was scaring off another predator. But after watching non stop except to go to bathroom for a few days, I started realizing that what I was seeilng had to be the switch.. SO I read every thing possible on this website to learn more, and then some. After reading how they were different around the head as well as size, I finally got confident enough to know who was on deck. I mean who is on the nest. lol. Now I feel very much involved and informed,, all thanks to you .. yahoo.. from Yoho.New Brunswick!
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It's pouring. The winds are howling. I feel SO sorry for them. And I too wish they could just pick and move to the nestbox! Let's hope they remember this from now on!!
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Glad you are enjoying yourself and that you are finding this all useful. This is the first time we have tried a Forum to answer questions and so far so good. But alot of that has to do with all of you - this would be a very quiet place without you all!
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It couldn't be any more miserable out there - unless it decides to snow!!!!! - Raining, cold and very windy - if these birds make it past this horrid weather I hope they never pick this nesting spot again! Can't see a thing now, way too dark but will be anxiously checking them out in the morning. Sleep tight our feathered friends - though I kinda doubt it. :-\
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Y'all are having way too much fun watching napping birds! :D
I know I certainly am. :D I watch my birds at home nap all the time. LOL
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I was up before the sun this morning (don't know why, probably thinking about eggs hatching too much, lol), so I watched the sun rise with Princess (although I think she was still sleeping). She looked damp at first but seemed to dry off pretty quickly. She seemed a little more fidgety than usual, looking around and stuff, perhaps looking for Trey to come and take over after a wet and windy night. Eventually she turned so that her back was to the camera a little before 8, and all of the sudden the wind flipped her up off of the eggs. She seemed a little shocked (or maybe that was me), but got back on, this time facing the camera again. Trey showed up at about 8:05 and settled in with his back to the camera, then sure enough the wind flipped him too!
Hoping for some nice weather today, but the forecast is saying it will be cool.
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I've been wondering, when they do start to hatch, will Princess or Trey stay sitting on the eggs? Or will they get off to make room?
Just curious to know what kind of view us cam watchers will have. :)
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Finally some sunshine! - going to be cool and windy (of course) today and going below 0 tonight (ack) - but the rest of the week looks good... so......things are looking up! I hope the chicks can wait til tomorrow to hatch! 8) Looks like Trey on now, I keep missing the shift changes! :-\
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Hi Tracy
I would like to thank you and everyone involved for all your hard work to bring this great event into our homes. I know my suggestion may be a bit early, but thought I'd post it now to give you some time to think about it and see what everyone else thought. I suggest that when it comes time to name the chicks you name them: Tracy, Radisson and Shaw. If that is totally out of the question, how about running a contest among the school children of the city?
Donna
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Its a good question Earlybird. Basically it will be much like it is now at the start. Today because of the wind and colder air temps, if the chicks I imagine you will barely get a glimpse of them. Because the chicks can't thermoregulate (regulate their body temperatures) for the first 10 days, Princess and Trey will be all over them. Tomorrow, if the weather forecast is correct, should be warmer and sunny and the parents will be more willing to get off them so long as they can be warm and dry. Feedings will be your best chance to see it/them.
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Thanks for the post Donna, and yes, probably naming the chicks before they are hatched is a bit early ;D though I'm sure you are far from the first person to start thinking about names. And thank you for the suggestions, I'm not sure if I could avoid being a "mother hen" if I had a chick named after me!
As for contests, we have had a contest to name the chicks from school children and it took us a month to go through all the names! Last year we had a contest on the Peregrine Chick Blog that was much easier to manage and had about 10x as many entries. I'll have to see how we want to do it this year, though I will admit to that last year's method is very appealing.
As for names for the chicks, if we choose last year's method, then I need to provide names. Last year we chose the names of different types of winds from around the world. And the winners were: Hurricane, Chinook (for males), Mistral and Taku (for females). Going to have to think of suitable names for this year's birds so maybe I will solicit themes for names later. And I do mean later, let's get them hatched first! :D
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For any of our out-of-town viewers, there is a link to Environment Canada's short-term forecast weather page for Winnipeg on the Peregrine Chick Blog if you want to know what is coming. The weather here changes fast (nothing to get in the way here on the prairies don't ya know ;) ) so I thought it would be helpful to have a fast link available somewhere kind of central.
Sunny with clouds here right now - 11:39 am.
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yay, just got to see another shift change today. :)Princess back on and eggs looked fine. Very windy.
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Yikes, Princess just got tumbled off the eggs again. :o She really needs to change direction and face the wind!.... Poor girl. Well it makes for interesting viewing anyway. .. :P
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Agh! Princess just got blown off and over twice in very little time. Two of the worst tumbles I've seen in the past few days. I actually wondered if she'd hurt her neck, wing, or leg.... She seems to look ok now though and is settled right down tight. Oh, no she's moving into the most likely to be blown off position again! Is injury a real possiblity in blow overs? My heart goes out to these two adults!
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Their dedication to those eggs is nothing short of awe inspiring. They are the best parents ever - I pray it ends well after all this adversity. :-\
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yes I really feel for them. The wind has been constant, no relief, I hope when they switch that they go and catch something to eat and go somewheres warm and dry to get a break. I am worrying about those eggs, but Tracy says not to for a couple more days anyhow. Someone posted a link to another birdcam and I went and had a look. Great camera view and there is sound. One egg hatched this morning and I have caught a glimse of the chick. So cute. The difference in nesting sites is night and day. These birds have cover. Why oh why did Princess and Trey choose this location. Here is that llink.
http://www.greatriverenergy.com/ebc/birdcam.html
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Their dedication to those eggs is nothing short of awe inspiring. They are the best parents ever - I pray it ends well after all this adversity. :-\
I completely agree with you Ballywing! I've got all fingers and toes crossed for the forseeable future! So many hurdles to come out the other side of in the next several weeks! Princess and Trey are so determined and dedicated. I have a new found respect for their efforts to raise a family!
Thanks for the new link Deedream!
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Wow! I've just visited the Minnesota link you just gave, Deedream, and I got to see that a second chick has hatched! So wet and scrawny looking and squeaking like crazy while the first chick is already looking dry and fluffy and both are right under the adult -- must be the mum, she looks so big and really gave the other adult and earfull when it perched nearby.
??? This adult has also been chewing and even eating, I think, the egg shell from the hatched eggs. Is this the usual way the hatched egg shells get disposed of? ???
Thanks again for this site! It'll help tide me over as I watch our pair sit and battle the wind and now I know what to expect in the next few days.
:)
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Oh, what a great new link!! - You're right Deedream, their 'house' is a luxury mansion, roof and everything. New chicks chirping, how exciting!! - Now how am I going to keep up with all this bird watching??? ;D
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quite normal to eat the eggshell from what I've been told...I've seen other mom's do this after hatching...good source of calcium, maybe? Maybe the Peregrine Chick can fill us in...
Glad you guys are enjoying the Minnesota link...so much fun to see a hatching...can't wait to see this happening with P & T!!!!
BTW....is it always this windy here...I saw the blow over...boy was that rough...is there anyway to put up a wind shield or other protection?...guess that's a stupid question...
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It'll help tide me over as I watch our pair sit and battle the wind and now I know what to expect in the next few days.
I Know! Isn't it exciting! Can't wait for "our" chicks to hatch. I am running out of room on my screen to get any work done, have one cam on each side. :D Really neat to here them and my she did give the other parent a talking to didn't she! lol. I thought maybe she was saying "don't stand there empty handed go get us something to eat!" My cats have taken an interest in my computer what with all the chirping. :)
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Watching the 2 cams, it hits home even more - the 'other' mom seems like she's on vacation in the tropics compared to our poor Princess , huddled & blowing around in the cold wind. I hope she can feel all our warm vibes going out to her. :) :)
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My sentiments exactly Ballywing. Gosh I hope Winnipeg gets some nice weather soon. From what I understand Tracy was saying they dont want to improve this location as it would only encourage them to use it more, and it is only 13 stories high compared to 30 stories for the nest box site on the other side of the building. Guess they only have themselves to blame for choosing to nest here, but everyone can make a mistake, and I for one feel very bad for P and T, especially comparing there situation to the Great River ones. I will keep praying for better times ahead. :)
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Yup, is normal to eat the eggshell. They don't all do it, or do it all the time or eat them all. Some remove them a distance away from the nest like other debris, others just flip them over the edge of the ledge. Given our angle this year, we'll get to see what Princess and Trey decide to do soon (hopefully).
And nope, though we usually have wind at this time of the year, its part and parcel of the change in the season. Wind is the movement of air down the air pressure gradient and we had a high last week (warm temperatures), which was replaced by a low (rain, cool/cold weather) and now we have another high coming along (temps for tomorrow are 18C high, 7C low, currently 9C and -1C tonight). The speed of the wind gives you an indication of how "high" the high is and how "low" the low is - the speed is directly proportional to the difference between the high and the low pressure. Think of it as a slope, the steeper the slope, the faster the speed.
Glad this question came up ... sorry (a little) for the Climatology 101 class
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Watching the 2 cams, it hits home even more - the 'other' mom seems like she's on vacation in the tropics compared to our poor Princess , huddled & blowing around in the cold wind. I hope she can feel all our warm vibes going out to her. :) :)
It is quite the difference....but she too has had a very rough spring...I've been watching her for about a month....yesterday she got pelted with hail...even though the box is covered...and they have had their share of spring snow...but at least she is somewhat protected with the "roof" over her head...I have to keep reminding myself that peregrines in the wild nest on rock/cliff ledges with NO protection...I would imagine they are well equiped to weather the weather....but I must say, Manitoba is just about the windiest place I've watched....whew.....and thanks for the climate 101 lesson...loved it...
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So, I've been cleaning my house all morning and stopping to check in on the nest... And it seems to me that peregrines are not very good housekeepers! I mean, I can understand it's hard to keep a gravel bed tidy, but do they ever throw out trash? The Great River nestbox seems to have a lot of leftovers (feathers from previous meals, I think) in it. ewwwww. :P
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Did you see the Harrisburg one? Even messier!
I myself have been meaning to do some tidying up...and studying, but have been too darn hooked on these falcons! I should really get to it.
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Looks like Princess (I think it's her) is in the danger-of-flipping-position again...
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Wait until the chicks are a 3-4 of weeks old, there are body parts everywhere! The parents tend to be fairly fastidious though there are usually some cleaned off bones that get missed. As the chicks get larger and start feeding themselves from the food the parents have brought, that is when the nest goes to wrack and ruin. When the chicks get close to fledging, they start pitching stuff out of the nestbox themselves. Besides, in the spring it gives Trey an opportunity to prove what kind of a sensitive king of guy he is ;)
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Looks like Princess (I think it's her) is in the danger-of-flipping-position again...
Yes, it is Princess, you're getting the hang of it! If you'd like to see still photos of both Princess and Trey, their mug shots are in Photo Gallery - www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/pefa_2008_id
I think she's got this wind direction worked out, she's about as flat on the eggs as I have ever seen her. Her feathers get mussed, but she's figured out to keep that tail down! Forecast still says the wind is suppose to go down for the next couple of days along with warmer temps and sun. Keep your fingers crossed.
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Okay, just saw herself nearly get flipped but she hung in there like glue. Did see two eggs though. Has anyone see all three at one time today? Since we haven't seen any feedings and we would have if the eggs had hatched (a la the Harrisburg nest - see the "Other Peregrine Cams" thread if you don't know what I am referring to). How many shift changes have we seen? And no, the eggs wouldn't have been blown off the ledge today if the parents got off them.
The reason I ask is that she is awfully stuck on those eggs, makes me wonder if she isn't hearing the chicks and that's why she isn't letting them be seen much. Can take more than 72 hours from initial pip to breaking free. For artificially incubated eggs, 24-48 hours (average 47.8 hrs) from pip to hatch. Most of that time is spent resting so no worrying about exhausted chicks okay ? ;)
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just saw a sift change about 10 minutes ago. All three eggs. No sign of any cracking yet.
Donna
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What a wonderful (and appropriate) idea - to name the chicks after wind types! Cool.
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Not sure who is on the nest right now as I have a back view, but whoever it is is really getting blown around. The wind is NE (coming right at them!) at 35 kph, and the temp is 10C. And we have a frost warning for tonight -- forecast is possible -3C. But the next four day highs are 18, 19, 22 and 21C. Let's just hope the weatherman is right!!
OH! Just checked back before I hit "Post". I guess it's Princess, and I saw her tucking in one egg. Relief. Hold on a bit longer, babies!
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The Weather Network says we got below freezing early this morning (-2C from 5am - 7am), but with little wind to no wind. Hope the nest was not too chilly! Forecast is calling for sun and a high of 19, light wind, Hooray!
I'm looking at who I think is Trey right now, head looks darker, but it's not the best angle. No movement yet, so I have not seen eggs or chicks.
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Before the sun hit the ledge about 5 minutes ago, it was easier to tell who it was. It's Princess. Nice and quiet downtown right now and so far it looks like it didn't actually get below freezing in downtown Winniepg last night - its 4C there right now.
Check the blog, I've made a note about something I saw at 7 am ...
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0741 local time - Princess turned around into the sun and saw two eggs only, but she wasn't getting up much.
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Yes, as soon as she shifted positions I realized it was her. Very nice to see the sun shining on the nest and very awesome news in the blog post!
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yes I saw two eggs only when she turned. Thanks for the heads up in the blog. Ohh maybe today is the day. There has been a shift change around this time, before so maybe we will see something shortly. She does seem to be reallly concentrating on those eggs.
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Phew!!! - Finally the weather has turned. A perfect day for some chicks to make their appearance! I don't know how I'll survive at work with no webcam, will have to rely on the blog to keep informed. Maybe I should call in sick. ;D ;D
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Don't do that Ballywing, you might want to save that sickday for the banding!!! ;)
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1031 local time - Princess is napping on the eggs - saw two eggs for sure, third pretty sure. The sun is shining full on the nestledge and only occasionally do you see a feather give a little flutter.
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I had just a few minutes to check in...looks like a gorgeous day there...is this Princess?..(sorry, still working on bird id.. ;) )...Whoever it is just finished doing the "play with the rocks" game...so cute....now...go ahead and get up so we can take a good look, please...
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Good Advice Tracy, much more to see during banding - so I'll be checking this forum and the blog - say - about every 30 seconds ;D ;D for news - thanks for that last update!! :D
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Hey, I want the little darlings to hatch soon too, I'm wearing one of the Project's sweatshirts in solidarity with Princess & Trey. Also helped goslings across a busy road this morning as a sign of good faith toward all things small and feathered ;D
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Was watching the birds very early this morning, at first light, and Princess was on the nest, and she was very restless, picking at the gravel and tossing it around and seemed unable to sit still for any length of time. She re-arranged the gravel within her reach , then re--rearranged it again ( this is where the term NESTING comes from .. lol )
She was pipping ( talking ) to herself and to the eggs.
( encouragement?). then she'd look up in the sky.. shift positions, and do it again.
Keeping our fingers crossed for a viable nest ... the birds are getting impatient, as are we all !
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Has anyone seen a shift change today? I was away for a bit, got outside and planted a few flowers, but HAD to come back, was afraid I was missing something. :) All I have seen is Princess since this am. She is doing quite a bit of panting, has it warmed up finally? Where is that Trey. Hopefully they will start hatching soon. Princess must be getting anxious. :)
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Princess seems to be doing some squawking and looking around alot. Wonder if she is calling for Trey. She seems hot, imagine she wants a break.
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Oh! shift change and three eggs! No signs of hatching on the eggs...
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1225 local time - shift change; Princess is off, Trey is on. Three eggs, couldn't see any obvious cracks or holes. Still alot of "talking" going on with Princess. Will have to see if Trey "talks" too.
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Oh! shift change and three eggs! No signs of hatching on the eggs...
Wow, you two above me are fast!
It was about time - I think Princess was getting seriously impatient. And possibly hungry!
Three eggs, no cracking that I could see.
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Wow, you two above me are fast!
;D
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1246 local time - Trey has been housecleaning and since its so warm he's been off the eggs. Am sure I saw a lighter mark on the nearest egg but can't say for sure that is a sign of hatching. Can say that both birds are twitchy today and I don't think its because of a lack of wind!
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hi tracy, in watching the birdcam, one of the eggs seemed to have a white spot on it? Could this be a hatching chick or just something stuck to the egg?
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yes I saw two eggs only when she turned. Thanks for the heads up in the blog. Ohh maybe today is the day. There has been a shift change around this time, before so maybe we will see something shortly. She does seem to be reallly concentrating on those eggs.
She just got up and turned (05/27/2008 @1053 hrs PDT) and there are definately three (3) eggs under her!
:D
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1300 Wpg time - Trey turned around and unless I am seeing the same egg I saw fifteen minutes ago under his but this time instead of up under his breast, we may actually have hatching starting. Don't get too excited, could have been a small white pebble stuck to the egg for all I can tell via the cam, but we MAY be on our way.
No counting of chicks before they are hatched!
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Glad someone else saw that as well. I've seen it twice, maybe the same egg, maybe different egg, hard to tell as Trey was going round and round and round.
Keep an eye on the May 2008 observations thread Marion, I think that is where most of the posts will appear in the next few hours!
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oh thanks everyone, I left for a few, to put out some patio furniture and this and that, hoping summer is here, lol, and came in to the Minnesota birds squawking, and then I seen Trey, and then.... for some stupid reason lost my internet connection. Jeeze. Caught up by all the great posters, so this is great getting updates. Oh Tracy I hope you are right and they are starting. :D
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ACK - I'm on the edge of my seat!! - I have my sister at home giving me the play by play , sure hope they hatch today - even if I don't get to see it!! ::) Maybe they'll wait til I can get home to my webcam. ;D
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I'm sure I saw the same thing, too, Peregrine Chick! That white bit really reminded me of what I saw yesterday with the Minnesota chicks hatching and I got excited that maybe our lil' ones are beginning to hatch, too! I think that particular egg is right under Trey's tail, so hopefully we'll get another look when he adjusts himself...
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did everyone get a good look? Definitely white spot on that one egg huh? Wow.
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Well, that was a very interesting view Trey just gave us and all his movement with his tail didn't knock the white spot off the egg, so hopefully it's not a little white rock!
I have to pry myself away now, painful as it is at this moment in time! Happy watching everyone!
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All of this "cleaning" of Trey's makes me think of a Dad child-proofing the house right before the new baby comes home from the hospital :D
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well I think I speak for everyone when I say "AARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ! " ::)
We're all going to be fired from our jobs if these kids don't make an appearance SOON !.
Getting a cramp from 'mouse-click-itis' changing 'windows' back and forth on my monitor..
;)
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1438 Wpg time - for whatever reason Trey was just have a shout at something/someone. Loud, long and sharp. No I don't have sound, just recognize the visual. He didn't move from the eggs at all. Just yelled for about 15 seconds and settled back down. Now he's chick-proofing again.
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Well, the "white spot" appears to still be there...!!!!!
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He's saying 'AARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH" too.
:P
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hes very restless, or something.
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hes very restless, or something.
I hope he's restless because he's hearing sounds from the eggs...
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Ditto Loriann, I don't even have webcam access at work >:( >:( >:( but still flipping screens back & forth constantly checking this forum for news!!!!! Thanks heavens for the folks who are describing what's going on!! 8)
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I know y'all won't want to hear this but the number of hatchings decreases as the day gets later. Most hatchings are in the morning (40%) then the numbers drop for the afternoon, then drop again and stay pretty constant through the evening and night as I recall.
This may just end up being a teaser for tomorrow morning .... :'(
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So we can all actually GO TO BED tonight? lol.
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I noticed that he seems to have settled down quite a bit. It almost appears as if he's resigned himself to another long night before getting to see his offspring. It should make for an interesting morning though with the (hopefully) beautiful sunshine beaming down on them for their arrival ;D
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I know y'all won't want to hear this but the number of hatchings decreases as the day gets later. Most hatchings are in the morning (40%) then the numbers drop for the afternoon, then drop again and stay pretty constant through the evening and night as I recall.
This may just end up being a teaser for tomorrow morning .... :'(
Good grief, I remember you telling us that before about mostly in the morning. Be another long day tomorrow. ;) ::) Today is so different as well, we are so used to seeing them tossed around by the wind, and now I keep looking to see if my screen has frozen or what. lol. :)
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well another shift change. Mom's back! Eggs looked good. lol. Well all still intact. Wonder what Princess will do now. Hmmmm. :)
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Princess is doing the "play with the rock" thing again....she's, oooops...off the eggs...but blocking the view...move over a little, please...drat...she's back on...
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Princess got up to reach more distant rocks to play with and gave a nice view of all three eggs. I think we're truly going to have to wait until tomorrow. :-\
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Princess got up to reach more distant rocks to play with and gave a nice view of all three eggs. I think we're truly going to have to wait until tomorrow. :-\
I think you are right...however...I think one or 2 of Harrisburgs hatched during the night...but I think that was very unusual...
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Princess got up to reach more distant rocks to play with and gave a nice view of all three eggs. I think we're truly going to have to wait until tomorrow. :-\
Who would have guessed that I would spend so much time squinting to look at spots on eggs under a falcon's butt? Sigh... ;D
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Wow I can't believe it. Should we start to worry yet? ....Can they get 'over-aged' or something? .....I hope those eggs are ok!!!! ???
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She's pretty wiggly...Tracy, could you go stick your head out the window and see if you hear anything? ;D
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I don't know at what point we start to worry....I'm sure Tracy will tell us. I don't think they overage...it would just mean that they aren't viable, for whatever reason..
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Tracy, how close are they to the nest box?
Cross your fingers for tomorrow.
YOu are all waiting for a hatch and we are waiting to see if we have egg number 3
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She's pretty wiggly...Tracy, could you go stick your head out the window and see if you hear anything? ;D
Couldn't if I wanted to SGB! I'm at the other end of the City. Heck, even if I was as close as I could get, I wouldn't hear anything from the chicks, too much noise in the downtown area and I wouldn't be able to get close enough.
As for "overaging", that will be easy to spot - they will be abandonned or "disappeared" by the adults. If that happened, it would cross-fingers for 10-14 days to see if they re-nest.
Think happy thoughts that tomorrow will bring white fuzzies for your all to ooo and aww over ;D
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Tracy, how close are they to the nest box?
This year's nest is on the east-side of the building on a ledge on the 13th floor level. The nestbox is on the 30th floor on the west-side of the building. So not very close I'm afraid.
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Who would have guessed that I would spend so much time squinting to look at spots on eggs under a falcon's butt? Sigh... ;D
Hee Hee! So true! I'm glad I'm not the only one who's amazed at how sucked in I am...and so invested! And really, because we know as soon as we look away something exciting will happen and this forum of interesting reading to keep up with, who has time for anything else!?
Princess kind of lifted herself up a bit and looked alert for a moment, so I'm wondering if things are continuing on under there, despite the time of day...
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Who would have guessed that I would spend so much time squinting to look at spots on eggs under a falcon's butt? Sigh... ;D
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Thanks for much for the guffaw, Teamla!! That's exactly the truth, ain't it! :D
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Tracy, I just want to thank you for keeping the Peregrine Chick Blog up-to-date during the day, too. I don't have video or blog access at work, so my only updates were checking the CBC page to see what was going on.
I am SO going to miss the hatching... Hope Pchemist or someone gets good video/pics to post for us!
Thanks again, Liz
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while we are ALL waiting ( patiently)..
check out the Great River Energy web-cam. Mom is currently feeding three white fluffy bundles of joy, and the camera is clear and up close and personal.
there is sound on this web cam too ! so you can hear the wee ones.
http://www.greatriverenergy.com/ebc/birdcam.html
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Tracy, do you think Princess is on for the night, or will we maybe see a shift change before dark?
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Who would have guessed that I would spend so much time squinting to look at spots on eggs under a falcon's butt? Sigh... ;D
Thanks for much for the guffaw, Teamla!! That's exactly the truth, ain't it! :D
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I had to chuckle when I read this....I currently have 3 cams open and 2 forums...cat in my lap and tv on....staring...waiting for a hatch at one, mom to get up on another one, and a parent to feed....ain't life grand...have you ever tried to explain this to family and friends? I don't know about yours, but they look at me like I'm crazy.... :)
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Who would have guessed that I would spend so much time squinting to look at spots on eggs under a falcon's butt? Sigh... ;D
Thanks for much for the guffaw, Teamla!! That's exactly the truth, ain't it! :D
I had to chuckle when I read this....I currently have 3 cams open and 2 forums...cat in my lap and tv on....staring...waiting for a hatch at one, mom to get up on another one, and a parent to feed....ain't life grand...have you ever tried to explain this to family and friends? I don't know about yours, but they look at me like I'm crazy.... :)
I know what you mean skygirlblue, except for me it's the people at work (my family gets it). We can see the hotel from our window, three blocks away. I am always staring at it hoping to catch a glimpse of a soaring parent, or at the JR sign (which is right in front of me, although up many stories) looking for Princess. But I had one convert today, who asked me to show her where to find to CBC site -- Yay!!!
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getting a good look at those eggs again. Not sure but that white spot seems bigger? Maybe wishful thinking. ;)
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Liz, one convert? That's great...just think if you got one a day...how cool would that be!!!! That is so neat that you are that close!!!
The people I work with? They just look at me and laugh...but that's ok....they don't know what they're missing...
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Here's my wishful thinking...I just got a nano-second look at an egg...not the white spot, but a suspicious spot....it could be that I've got the cam open too large and its distorted...hmmmmmmm
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Is anyone else having problems??? The webpage isn't even working anymore?
Help??
Susan
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Is anyone else having problems??? The webpage isn't even working anymore?
Help??
Susan
I'm viewing fine....are you talking about the cam?
Try entering this URL directly into your Media Player
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/falcon/media/webcam.asx
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Is anyone else having problems??? The webpage isn't even working anymore?
Help??
Susan
I'm viewing fine....are you talking about the cam?
Try entering this URL directly into your Media Player
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/falcon/media/webcam.asx
Nothing... I cannot believe it. I restarted my computer, it all started when I went to view the Perigrines in the UK, I have since to get back on.
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Is anyone else having problems??? The webpage isn't even working anymore?
Help??
Susan
I'm viewing fine....are you talking about the cam?
Try entering this URL directly into your Media Player
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/falcon/media/webcam.asx
Nothing... I cannot believe it. I restarted my computer, it all started when I went to view the Perigrines in the UK, I have since to get back on.
Forgive this stupid question...but clicking on the above link or manually entering into WMP did no good? YIKES...that's a bummer...streaming is working fine for me...I wonder if too many people are on and that's why? Don't give up....
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My internet shut down suddenly, but I got in again no problem. This is the site I use:
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/falcon/
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Wow!! - On the Great River Energy cam, a small bird had the bad luck of flying too close to the nest, was royally yelled at by 'Mom', then off she swoops for a couple minutes, leaving the squealing chicks alone. Comes back with 'Dinner' - Must be the unfortunate small bird? - anyway lots of screeching and excitement, they all had a feast. Such fun!! My husband thinks I'm obsessed. I guess he's right.... ;D ;D Princess looks bored. :-\
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Wow!! - On the Great River Energy cam, a small bird had the bad luck of flying too close to the nest, was royally yelled at by 'Mom', then off she swoops for a couple minutes, leaving the squealing chicks alone. Comes back with 'Dinner' - Must be the unfortunate small bird? - anyway lots of screeching and excitement, they all had a feast. Such fun!! My husband thinks I'm obsessed. I guess he's right.... ;D ;D Princess looks bored. :-\
The amount of screeching was amazing! Guess s/he paid the price!
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She's drifting off to sleep!
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Or not! She was trying; her eyes were definitely closing.
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She does look bored...and very sleepy....those little eyes keep closing and opening...wait...those are my little eyes... :) Well, now she's awake...looks like she burped...do falcons burp....time to play with the rocks again....
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I wish she would get off the eggs one more time before I have to call it a night...
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darn I missed all that excitement on the Elk River Cam. I too have had problems with my interenet. Had to shut down and restart and this and that. Frustrating. Sounds like it was fun to watch though. You can always here songbirds in the back ground on that site and I have wondered.... don't they know that a falcon is there? Guess not. There getting welll fed today it seems. :) ;D
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There getting welll fed today it seems. :) ;D
They sure seem to be. I saw two feedings within an hour or so. I guess the second was just luck. Bad luck, for the intruding entree! Oops, I guess that was actually dessert.
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oh oh, Princess getting excited. Shift change maybe?
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She's off!
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Well thank god , Trey is on for the night maybe. Princess only had 3 hours off today, and the poor girl deserves a break. ;D
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Still three eggs. I saw no pipping, but maybe the egg has been rolled and it was just the wrong angle.
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Saw all three for a long while during the shift change. I have a feeling about the one closest to the camera...
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Other than maybe a peek or two at the eggs as Trey moves around, I guess that's it for the night. I'll watch til it gets too dark, but I think for once I'm going to get up early and see what's happening, before I head for work. Hopefully, there'll be some action in the early a.m. Come on, babies!!!!!!! ;D
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After watching all day at work, this is the first time this evening I got a chance to log in and see how Trey and Princess are doing! Of course as soon as the media player opens I see a suspicious white thingy and here I get all upset figuring I missed a hatch! Hahaha just a bone from dinner from what I can guess. Hopefully, they'll wait until tomorrow morning to give us all a nice show! Besides I figure both Trey and Princess can probably do with a good nights rest after all the wind they've had to content with! Good Night babies!!!
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Hi, winnipeg_gal. You didn't miss much, except a lot of stress on our parts hoping we'd see something. And three eggs, all in one piece. Trey looks like he's sleepy too -- eyes seem to be closing. And he's a lot calmer than Princess was in the time I was watching, starting from 6 pm. Hopefully tomorrow morning we will see something exciting -- before we have to go to work!
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Seems I get to miss most of it other than the stressing part. I still haven't caught a shift change between Trey and Princess. Caught one on the Great River Energy Cam though! That's just the way it is though ::)
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Hey Gang,
Understand some of you lost the connection about 7 pm tonight ... looks like it was too many folks logging onto the CBC website. Best thing to do is to go to Tools - Internet Options, then "Delete Files" (those are your temporary web files) and "Clear History". Then close your browser, count to ten and then open up it up again and to to www.cbc.ca/manitoba and click on the link for the falcon cam. My suggestion would be not to go to the Media Player address. Because the signal is just converted from the feed we are getting from the camera, its not really a file to be played. If you go through the link on the CBC Manitoba website you are guaranteed of hitting the current feed.
Hope that made sense ... :-\
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Shift change was at 8:50 tonight. From what I've read, they're pretty regular, give or take 20 mins. So maybe tomorrow night. Altho after hatching, maybe that changes.... Tracy?
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just saw another shift change...7:55 PST so...9:55 in Winnipeg?! Too dark to really see much.
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gosh I was already to turn off the cam for the nite, and guess whos back? Princess. She only took an hour for herself. Shes really sticking close to her babies. :)
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I missed that! I assumed it was still Trey on the nest. Mums and childbirth, I guess! She looks as settled at Trey did. And the pic is almost gone...
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Shift changes may or may not be regular after hatching, I seem to recall that the parents are usually pretty good about not disturbing the chicks much between feedings, though they usually have the protection of the nestbox so that might make weather-related changes less frequent. We'll have to see what happens if stronger winds return ...
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just saw another shift change...7:55 PST so...9:55 in Winnipeg?! Too dark to really see much.
Not to quibble, but isn't it PDT? Only asking because I know not all of the country changes -- like SK, for instance. And yes (if so), that makes us two hours ahead.
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Those winds had better NOT come back!! -Well after watching several minutes of 'Fuzz', I guess that's it for the night. Hopefully morning brings us something to celebrate~~ ;D
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I hope so too. Goodnight, all.
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Hello everyone,
Here goes my first entry...not sure if it will work.
I love watching the Falcons. I can't watch them at work this year. I think our IT Dept did something and now we can't view the web cam at work anymore. I have to wait until I get home. Today they had a beautiful day. The rest of the week is supposed to be nicer. I am so looking forward to seeing the chicks. It would be wonderful to see at least one hatch. Thanks to all involved for this wonderful opportunity. It is addictive and I become so attached to them.
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Hello everyone,
I love watching the Falcons. I can't watch them at work this year. I think our IT Dept did something and now we can't view the web cam at work anymore.
Hi, Moonstar. Your company is prob like mine -- the web cams (and in my case, the whole internet) is blocked because they want us to work and not surf!
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Same here Moonstar - I guess too many people like us spending all their work time watching webcams - hee hee ;D - I can get on this forum at work though, and found it really helpful today , people constantly updating with any goings-on....or non-goings-on... :-\
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I can't get the Forum but I can get Tracy's Peregrine Chick Blog, so I rely on that during the day to keep me in touch. (I Know I said NO internet, but I work for the Cdn gov't so we do get CBC -- lucky me!)
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not totally sure but i think I saw one chick anyways..was up early checking the webcam
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Just saw a chick as either Princess or Trey moved. There is was a little fluffy white chick. I am so excited and happy.
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;D ;D ;D !!!!!!!!!!
Well good morning Winnipeg ! We have a baby this morning ! It is 6:42 am here in Mississauga , and just checking in on the 'family'.. we have one baby !. and a lot of squirming around.
Congratulations Princess and Trey ! and maybe now we can all take a deep breath and relax !
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yup one for sure this morning... and a lot of movement and peeking under ....
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oh my I just caught a quick peek. Looks like one ball of fluff anyways!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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We have a baby! YAY!!!
Now let's just hope the other two come along soon
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I just saw a little fluffball of a chick too. What a relief! The adult seems to have a much different posture today.
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Yippee....I finally saw the little fluff ball....I am so excited...Congratulations P & T!!!
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Yes I definitely saw a chick too. Didn't take long to see since Princess seems to be moving around a lot this morning. I guess its hard to sit still when you have a squirming fluff ball under you!
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Yippee, Yippee, Yippee!!!!! :) :) :)
So exciting...and hatching during the night...very sneaky...I only caught a glimpse...finally....can't wait to see all of the little one!!!
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Hooray! Way to go Princess and Trey!
Any feedings yet? I wonder how soon the little one has to eat after hatching?
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My son and I also saw the chick. Approx 7 am Ontario time. Yes, even in Ontario we are hooked on the Falcon Cam!!!
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Well, I could sit here and stare at the cam all morning long, but I gotta get back to work (its 8 am where I am).... :'(. Happy baby watching everyone!!!! Let's all hope for #2 and #3 sometime today!!!! I'll keep checking back in...
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I think last year's method for coming up with names for the chicks was a great way to make sure everyone could have input. I'm proud that my votes counted and that I had a little part in helping name the chicks. :D An online vote was a great idea and if possible it should be done again this year!
Speaking of last year... have there been any sightings of Hurricane, Chinook or Missy? I wonder how they're doing out there on their own (or if they've even survived this long).
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Just a minute ago, I got a peek at at least one baby, maybe two. Very cool!
Bette
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It is 8:30am here in Ontario, when I got up I checked the cam and saw one chick full of white down and as I watched Princess rearranging herself I got a good look at the second chick who seemed to have just hatched given how wet the little one's down is. What a wonderful sight!!!!!!
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Yes I have been watching for almost 2 hours now, and at first I seen a nice fluffy white chick, but now I keep seeing one that looks kinda bloody and yucky, so I wondered if there was another. Did you see both chicks at the same time?
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Yes I believe there are two now. I could be mistaken , will have to keep watching. :)
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I thought I heard the egg timer go off this morning! LOL :D
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Its time for Trey to show up for shift change. Wonder if he knows he is a Dad yet? Princess will be wanting to feed her chicks I expect. :)
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I'm pretty sure I just got a peek at the second little chick! So exciting!
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Tech Note:
Know y'all are excited and happy about the chicks. In order to keep everyone going in the same direction I have merged two threads on the chicks into one. If it happens again, I'll merge again. No worries though, just thought I'd give you the heads up should you notice "your" thread looks a bit different. Don't want anyone to miss the good stuff!
The Peregrine Chick
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Yippee, Yippee, Yippee!!!!! :) :) :)
So exciting...and hatching during the night...very sneaky...I only caught a glimpse...finally....can't wait to see all of the little one!!!
Actually they started hatching about 4:45 am local time, dawn was breaking so I guess that makes it morning? ;D
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I think last year's method for coming up with names for the chicks was a great way to make sure everyone could have input. I'm proud that my votes counted and that I had a little part in helping name the chicks. :D An online vote was a great idea and if possible it should be done again this year!
We'll probably have an online vote again, just need to come up with a theme to name the chicks (now that we have them I don't mind saying that!). Will start a thread as we get closer for theme ideas, so don't send them now, put them your ideas somewhere safe!
Speaking of last year... have there been any sightings of Hurricane, Chinook or Missy? I wonder how they're doing out there on their own (or if they've even survived this long).
No, we haven't heard anything about any of them. But that isn't unusual and we generally take it as a good sign, ie, if they died and someone found them we'd know but since we haven't heard anything we assume they are around somewhere. Until we get a band confirmation (dead or alive) we just assume/hope they are off hunting and carousing!
(Welcome Back BTW :D)
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Just checking back in....we have 2 now?! That is fantastic!!!! This is so exciting..gotta run...but I'll check back in later...thanks for all the play-by-play reporting... ;D
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Wow you were up early Tracy!! - so exciting, can't wait to get a peek!! - And nice weather coming today too! - I'll never get ready for work at this rate, will be watching the forum like a hawk today for news!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Hey, maybe we should all move over to the 'We have Chicks' thread, seeing as this one is so big now??? ;) Keep everyone on the same page....
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Just got another glimpse as Princess was turned to the left of the screen, I believe I saw two little balls of white.
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Thanks Tracy! I've been looking forward to this since the chicks flew the coop last summer!
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I thought I heard the egg timer go off this morning! LOL :D
:P LOL @ willmax.. snicker.
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Looks like Princess keeps talking or calling or something, maybe she's calling Trey to come see his new kids!!! ;D ;D - I wouldn't mind a peek too!! :-\
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I just read on another site that someone spotted 3 chicks. Guess we will have to keep our eyes peeled.
She is really active . O.K. Trey bring in the bacon(well pigeon) :) :)
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He must be out preparing a feast ;)
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Just got a glimpse of all three chicks!
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I just saw 2 chicks and one egg . Can I pst pictures here. I took some
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I just saw the two chicks and one egg. I hope everything is okay with the third. This is very exciting.
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I do not know if these pictures will work but I will try.
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x135/fullbrandt/bev/bev2/manitobamay28-1.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x135/fullbrandt/bev/bev2/manitobamay28-2.jpg)
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I was positive I saw three chicks! *Rubs eyes* Am I seeing things? ???
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YIPPEE!! :D I'm sooo excited. This has made my day! I'm going to try to keep checking on them, but I'm at work and don't know how much I will be able to watch.
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I am of the same thinking as Bev, when Princess was moving I also thought I got a glimpse of one egg. Guess we will all have to keep our eyes peeled and hope for a shift change too get a better look.
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I have pictures . How do I post them . They show 2 chicks and one egg.
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Bev, go to the How do I section. Supposed to e-mail them to her and she may post them in the Photo Gallery . I tryed to post on here too but could not find any way. :)
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Thanks.
that is too bad we can not post pictures becasue then others could see what you see immediately. Like the 2 chicks and i egg.
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I tried the same thing and e-mail TPC with the snap I had taken. Her explanation was that they're not sure how much traffic and space the forum is going to use yet and pictures take up a lot of space. Makes sense from that perspective. Hopefully you'll send them to Tracy and she'll get them up in the gallery!
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Hi everyone! This is so exciting! I've been watching as much as possible since I read about the falcons in the WFP online last week. My kids are also glued to the webcam every afternoon, and my daughter's grade 4 class has been ocasionally watching on a video screen in her classroom.
Thanks to everyone who is making this webcam possible. Congratulations to Trey and Princess!!
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I e-mailed them to Tracys personal e-mail. I hope that works.
She is really moving around. We need a food drop now.
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She is really panting now and I think I saw the egg again when she lifted up her back end.
will check back later. i always take pictures when I can.
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Yes, she really is panting quite a bit isn't she. You can see the heat radiating from the ledge! I can understand how they keep the chicks warm by sitting on them but how do they thermoregulate when they're really warm?
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Shift Change wooohoooooooooo got a good look at two chicks and one egg!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The proud father finally makes an appearance (and mom finally gets a well deserved break!) Those little guys are too cute.
I was definitely wrong, there's still one egg there. Must have been dust on my computer screen :P
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Photos are gratefully accepted - just email them to me. The little envelope to the left under my name will pull up the email or you can add it to your address book: peregrinechick @ species-at-risk.mb.ca .
Bandwidth is my greatest concern at the moment so until I'm sure that it won't shut down the Forum, photos won't be posted here. Same for avatars for those of you in the know. For more info check out the FAQ and How Do I sections.
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I just saw the two chick and I egg I am soooooooooooo happy 8.25AM IN VANCOUVER
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Another shift change missed :'( Customers just keep walking in at the wrong time :-[
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Dont cry or you may have missed Trey having a little walk about and missed the chick again .
hope you saw that just a minute ago :o
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I got to see!!! Such sweeties! and I think I'm finally getting the hang of which one is trey and which one is princess! OOOHHH so eggciting heheh. Hey I hatched the same day as the chicks (such fun!)
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Just sent 2 more pictures.
O should have taken of the feed but you could not see anything so I will give play by play. Mom left toward the cam and the chicks and egg were in plain view. Dad came in with his prey and started to feed the chicks. After the feed he left with prey in beak and babes were alone for about a minute (maybe not even that long ) and mom came back.
Now I can get some work done. I just wanted to see that first feed. Dad would not let us see though.Private moment I guess. ;)
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This is just so amazing, thanks to all those involved in providing the webcam that allows us to watch mother nature at her finest. I am so excited at having witnessed the 2nd one so soon after it hatched. Now mom is eating what is left of the egg shells. Thank you Tracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I thought for a minute there that we had another chick as mom was eating part of a shell but just saw the egg so it must have been old shell
this is good for them . No my personal choice of snack. ;)
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Such shifting around! my are we busy! Got a quick peek at the egg and I may be mistaken but I could've sworn I saw a white spot on it. Maybe it'll hatch soon too!
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Such shifting around! my are we busy! Got a quick peek at the egg and I may be mistaken but I could've sworn I saw a white spot on it. Maybe it'll hatch soon too!
I agree Winnipeg gal, I could swear I seen a spot on that egg exactly like the one we seen last night. Oh boy, ...... lol
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Hooray! I'm so glad we have chicks...but oh! Why did I hit my snooze button at 4am this morning (BC time)!!! I can tell there's one egg left, everyone's so close to the bottom of the screen it's hard to see! They sure moved a long way from the incubation area!
Fingers crossed that someone got video and posted it! I'll have a look back when I can take my eyes off the goings on...
Any possibility of the camera andgle being moved an couple of inches?
Congrats to the Peregrines and all!
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Now as she was turning she has a feather in her mouth.
well must run and do my yard work.
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I know that banding is a long way off, but I was wondering what mom and dad do when banding is occuring? Don't they try to protect the kids? Do banders ever get attacked by mom or dad?
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Yep there does seem to be a white spot on the remaining egg!
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my goodness, he can't stay still. i think its hot there, hes seems to be panting, panting and calling , can't take the heat or something. ss
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I was just going to say before I left that this was Trey . that is why he is having such a time keeping the chicks and the egg under. Remember ,he is smaller. I just noticed in one of my shots that this falcon did not have the white above the beak.
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Not to quibble, but isn't it PDT? Only asking because I know not all of the country changes -- like SK, for instance. And yes (if so), that makes us two hours ahead.
Well, I have to admit that I actually don't know. :-[ Yes BC does jump forward and move back each spring and fall, but I've never seen PDT, it's always PST with a note to include 'consideration for those areas which adopt daylight savings time when calculating actual time differences between areas' (from the phone book...). So, I may have just illustrated my ignorance in a big way! Anyway, regardless of PST or PDT, I did take daylight savings time into consideration when I double checked our time differences so, still we're 2 hours apart. :-\ I'm pretty sure...
Darn old time difference anyway! I tried hard to get up at 4am, but hit the ol' snooze button and now I've missed the hatchings! Darn darn darn! At least there's one egg to go, but if Trey keeps moving everyone as much as he is, he's doing, he, the egg, and the chicks are going to be out of range of the camera! So frustrating! and yet, so exciting that we finally have chicks!
Ooh, there's a peek now and oh, Princess is quickly back on. Hopefully she'll have a gathering habit going back towards the incubation site!
Anyway, thanks for querying the PDT/PST thing, Liz. :) I'll be clarifying that for myself very quickly! I had wondered what everyone was referring to with CDT and did end up assuming the D meant daylight, but somehow I've never come across that before... ::):-[ :o
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Oops! Sorry! I'm not sure why the purple extended through out the quote from Liz and my reply! Rather purple isn't it! :)
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I just had a few minutes to check in.....this is way toooooooooo exciting. Thanks to all of you for describing what is going on....its the next best thing to being here...and I can't wait to read all the comments once I get home.....and hopefully get to see the little fluffballs!!!! Thanks to all of you again!!!!
And thanks Tracy for setting up this new forum....such a great way to share the news and excitement!!!!
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Skygirl, I never thought of my postings as helping others but reading your post makes me feel good knowing I am contributing in some measure. I am unemployed due to disabilites from birth and have been birdwatching for over 30 years and have always wanted to contribute in some way. Thank-you for letting us know how we are helping those of you out there who can't watch play by play action.
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Skygirl, I never thought of my postings as helping others but reading your post makes me feel good knowing I am contributing in some measure. I am unemployed due to disabilites from birth and have been birdwatching for over 30 years and have always wanted to contribute in some way. Thank-you for letting us know how we are helping those of you out there who can't watch play by play action.
You are most welcome....the more you can describe, the better it is for those of us not able to watch!!! I love the descriptions and the play-by-play...they are invaluable and paint such a wonderful picture as to what is going on....Please keep it up!!!
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No wonder the adults are panting, it's 19C in Winnipeg. I still see some remanents of egg shell beyond. That one little chick doesn't want to stay beneath, parent keeps tucking the youngin back under.
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Just got back from my lunch break and it sounds like I missed a lot! Wish I had seen the feeding! Looks like Princess is back on duty right now. She does look pretty warm. She seems to be shading the chicks rather than keeping them warm. Can't wait to get a peek at the white speck on the egg.
OOOHHH so eggciting heheh. Hey I hatched the same day as the chicks (such fun!)
Haha looks like I'm hatching the same day as the eggs too!
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Congratulations! Now we get to stumble around instead of being rolled around! hehehe ;D Princess looks like she's been "calling" for Trey for a while now. I guess it's feeding time again?
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Princess just shifted around and I could definitely see signs of hatching on the third egg! Won't be long now before we get to meet the last chick!
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Oh, good job, Princess! She got everyone tucked under her chin and moved them further into the viewing area (by a tiny bit!), but not before she stepped on the egg and then on one of the chicks. Ouch, I hope it looked worse than it was!
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The answers are yes, yes and yes.
The banding is a long way off and Princess and Trey will be making alot of noise and dive-bombing us. Usually they don't actually hit us because at the speeds they fly in "attack mode" we are too close to the building for them to fly safely. And while they are ready to throw themselves at us, they know that if they are injured their chicks are goners. So survival instinct meets parental instinct. Its why we will spend as little time as possible go up/down and on the ledge this year. We want to stress them all (adults and chicks) as little as possible.
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I wish I could invite Princess and Trey to come and hunt at and around my building...lotsa pigeons that leave a mess on my window sills. It's pretty close. Is 1-1.5km too far to fly with a pigeon in the talons?
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Yeah she was having trouble gettin her balance but didn't look like she had the full weight of her body on the chick or the egg.
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Pigeons are the peregrine equivalent of Kraft Dinner I think, they only seem to eat them with they have kids or pickins are slim. (And yes, I like KD from time to time) Speaking of feeding, what you see Princess and Trey bring in are not whole birds, they have had a nibble on them before they arrive. Usually head, wings, tail are gone. Sometimes leg. Just bringing the good stuff since they have to fly it in and they want to bring as much as possible for the chicks. At this stage they are ripping off tiny little pieces for the chicks, but that will change, almost day by day, as the chicks grow.
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Regarding the feeding, TPC, I saw three feedings with day old chicks in Minnesota yesterday and each time, it seemed the adult doing the feeding would position itself a little too far away from the chicks and then the stretching to reach other was painful and not ver successful! Especially for one chick, it never seemed to get anything as it was at the back and the adult didn't move around to get to it. Also it seemed as if the adult was expecting the chicks to grab the good versus drop it into their open mouths. I'm not sure how they're supposed to do it at this stage, but more often than not, it seemed the chicks weren't grabbing it and the adult would back away with the food still it it's mouth... It was hard to watch, and without knowing what's normal or needed....I just thought I'd ask so I could watch P and T feed with a little more knowledge and a lot more calmly! :)
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Sorry, it's me again!
TPC, is it possible to zoom out a teeny tiny bit or change the camera angle a touch? All morning (for me anyway) I'm only getting two thirds of the adult and not always the chicks with P or T moves.... I don't know if there's something I can do to my view or if others are having the same problem...
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I watched that too yesterday Enraptured, and it got too painful for me to watch. I couldn't stand see that one little guy get nothing. :'(
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Haha Princess is having one heck of a time keeping those little fluff balls underneath her. Seems like they keep trying to squirm away from her. At least they have moved back up a bit so they're not as cut off as they were earlier today. Who knows where they will be tomorrow!
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Princess, will you please stop knocking your chick around so much! Goodness. :) :o
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Its a good question Enraptured.
First thing is that rarely do the individual chicks not get enough to eat at this stage. Keep in mind how often the parents are coming in and how small the chick is. At this stage the chick is about the size of your clenched fist. There really isn't much room in them for food at this stage. Even little Mistral last year got her fair share and she was 1/2 the size of her male siblings right from the start and the last to hatch. As has been mentionned elsewhere, the chicks grow very fast over the next week and will be active (sometimes more than active) participants in the feeding process in just a few days. Chicks that grab at food in one feeding, will probably not be ones grabbing so much at the next feeding or the feeding after that. There is no siblicide among peregrines so one chick will not be singled out. Also remember, they all the chicks look alike and that everytime the adults stuff them back underneath they are also moving them around - think "shell game" and you get the idea.
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Definite 2 chicks, one egg with a white spot on it at @ 12:45
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So they will soon be getting some shade for the afternoon I expect. Maybe that will quiet things down. Or maybe that other egg is about to hatch too , and Princess just has her hands full. Hmmm.
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My but does that shade ever move in fast! I know we're not that cloudy here, just a few puffballs in the sky.
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I watched that too yesterday Enraptured, and it got too painful for me to watch. I couldn't stand see that one little guy get nothing. :'(
Ya, I almost quit watching, too, but I just couldn't stand to not know if that chick ever got fed. Of course the next feeding a chick didn't get fed either but I don't know if it was the same one or not.
I was wondering if maybe the parents were new parents and don't know to move close to the chicks, or whether there's a reason for them to be so tied to holding the prey down so far away ....
I've checked on them today and so far I haven't seen a feeding, but I also don't see the fourth egg. I hope it's just covered up by the three chicks...
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Looks like the shade has finally arrived now maybe Mom can get some rest and coolness. Too funny watching that one little one who keeps popping out by her wing.
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I watched that too yesterday Enraptured, and it got too painful for me to watch. I couldn't stand see that one little guy get nothing. :'(
Ya, I almost quit watching, too, but I just couldn't stand to not know if that chick ever got fed. Of course the next feeding a chick didn't get fed either but I don't know if it was the same one or not.
I was wondering if maybe the parents were new parents and don't know to move close to the chicks, or whether there's a reason for them to be so tied to holding the prey down so far away ....
I've checked on them today and so far I haven't seen a feeding, but I also don't see the fourth egg. I hope it's just covered up by the three chicks...
Oh, I know I peeked and once or twice I thought that one might have got one or two tiny bites. First thing this am I watched a feeding, same thing, parent standing way back and chicks tumbling about to eat, again one was always left out. Thats when later today I said, oh I have to turn that off for awhile and just concentrate on P and T. :) There was an egg there this morning.
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Thanks, Peregrine Chick, for the reassurance on the feeding and definately no siblicide! Phew!!! :)
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Ah Mom come on let me explore the world now that I've arrived!!
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Princess looks funny with her butt in the air, catching a breeze perhaps? ;D
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So now as the day wears on, do those stats come into play again? Are the chances of the last egg hatching today slowly diminishing as the day wears on and we'll have another 4am hatch tomorrow? Or are those stats based upon first hatch?
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Oh, I know I peeked and once or twice I thought that one might have got one or two tiny bites. First thing this am I watched a feeding, same thing, parent standing way back and chicks tumbling about to eat, again one was always left out. Thats when later today I said, oh I have to turn that off for awhile and just concentrate on P and T. :) There was an egg there this morning.
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Oh good, I'm relieved to know there was still the fourth egg this morning. Hopefully I catch a glimpse of it or a fourth chick! Each clutch has one to go!
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So now as the day wears on, do those stats come into play again? Are the chances of the last egg hatching today slowly diminishing as the day wears on and we'll have another 4am hatch tomorrow? Or are those stats based upon first hatch?
Don't worry about egg 3 yet, could hatch later today as there is lots of noise from the adults and siblings to encourage it. Could also hatch tomorrow or even the day after. If there is a problem with the egg, Princess and Trey will know and they will stop incubating. Remember y'all were worried about how long these guys were taking to hatch? Looks like Princess and Trey knew what they were doing! :D
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Which nest site are you watching that happening on? At Columbus we were afraid that Scout . a young falcon, would starve the youngest one becasue she was standing so far back and he was so little. He was not moving up and she was not moving back. But she caught on and that little one figured out how to get around to get fed. I think experience helps. I do not know about you but my first child was my guinea pig :) :)I learned as I went along. Scout right now has 4 healthy chicks.
so do not fear. They are not like eagles.
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we were talking about Elk River Cam Bev. They are not banded so don't know how old the parents are. seem really big though, although don't imagine that says much.
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Their size does not tell. I would bet that maybe this is a young female and this is possibly her first clutch.
We had a big first time female at our site last year but an experienced male so it balanced out. although she ended up to be an excellent mother.
Sometimes they catch on right away and sometimes it take s a bit but I am sure it will work out.
Mine ended up O.K. although I had many trials and errors :) ::) :)
Princess is really pulling that gravel around her. Trying to make a ddp impression to keep the chicks in. what a gal.
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the fourth egg is hatching!!!
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Did you see that when Princess got up . I think that egg is on its way to becoming a chick.
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Just got a peak at the remaining egg, looks like a substantial crack in it.
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sorry, I mean the third egg with P and T! Just caught a good glimpse and half the egg had opened up!
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the fourth egg is hatching!!!
We only have four at the Radisson I'm afraid Enraptured! :)
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Good glad I wasn't the only one thinking it was half open lol
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I cannot get the cam???
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Yep, it looks like that third egg is almost half there!
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the fourth egg is hatching!!!
We only have four at the Radisson I'm afraid Enraptured! :)
Hmmm, it seems I'm not the only one getting mixed up between three and four! I'm sure it's only three at the Radisson....! :P
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I thought I saw the third chick partially out.
I may be confused, but I remember only three eggs, not four eggs, whenever the shift changed. ???
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I think I just saw a "wet" leg!
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Speaking of 4 though, I just watched an excellent feeding at the Minnesota, Great River Energy, Elk... This parent worked in a semi circle and made sure each end every chick was fed. it was lovely! I still can't see the fourth egg, though, so hopefully it is still being hidden under or behind the chicks.
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Well well well all 3 have hatched in one day. Mom is helping get the egg shell off the 3rd one and now she's tucking it under her awwwwwwwwww
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Way to go! Number 3 is hatched!!
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The third is definitely out and mom is picking eggshell pieces off its back
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That was amazing! Too bad it was so close to the edge of the view, but still, very good view overall! They sure don't spend much time ooing and awing over their new hatchlings do they! Just tuck 'em under with the rest. So glad they're all hatched!!! :)
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Unbelievable!! Wow what a view. Amazing..and Mom pulling him right out. :D ;D
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Woooohoooooo for Princess and Trey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just saw the third chick being born. Quite a neat experience.
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Saw that too, and then there were three...
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That was so cute how mom just pulled the egg off, picked at the egg for a second then tucked the new baby in with the rest! hehe! ;D
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What a magical moment to witness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is the first time I've witnessed a hatching. And no they don't oooo or ah, right down to the business of taking care of the brood
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And now there are 3. Awesome. she helped it out. I will send pictures
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I thought I saw the third chick partially out.
I may be confused, but I remember only three eggs, not four eggs, whenever the shift changed. ???
Sorry, skypilot! The confusion is my fault. I said four instead of three by accident because I've also got an eye out for a fourth egg in Minnesota! There are only three in Wpg!
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treys gonna have his hands full now. lol. He had a struggle this morning with 2, whats he gonna do with 3? ;D
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Did you see those cute little legs as she was tucking it under. Way to go
Wh Hoo!!!!!!
Now the yard work
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Finally! I got to see one hatch. Amazing stuff!! My 10yo DD just called from home to tell me about it and we watched together, even though I'm at work and she's at home. What an experience! Gee, I really haven't done much work today :D
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hey, yes me too, we are all talking about it over on "We have chicks" come on over. lol :)
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ATTENTION ALL EMPLOYEES !
THIS IS YOUR BOSS SPEAKING !
GET BACK TO WORK,, ALL OF YOU !
Lol.. we're all going to get fired.
congrats to Trey and Princess once again... and we were all so worried. ::) they knew exactly what they were doing, and waited for the right day to do it.
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The poor little one is going to get gravel burn :) :)did You see her trying to stuff them all under and it was front row and centre stage.
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Poor princess is exhausted. Now work!!!!
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Lucky for me I don't have a boss and I don't have to get back to work lmao
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ATTENTION ALL EMPLOYEES !
THIS IS YOUR BOSS SPEAKING !
GET BACK TO WORK,, ALL OF YOU !
You had me worried for a minute :o
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The 2nd feeding is happening and once again Trey has his back to the camera thus making it impossible to see the little ones eating, but once mom left you could see 3 distinct little head popping up, feed me!
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well at least we won't know whether its "fair' or not, we can't see! ::)
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and then the meal was over wow that wasn't long The third one looks to be passed out and stuffed but I did see 3 heads sticking when mom first left.
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hey yeah, he was laid right out! He moved though just before P came back in. Whew.
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I know, I was worried about the little new one! He was on his back and not moving! But yes, I think he was just stuffed or somethin! Too funny! He's fine, he moved!
Too bad we can't see the feedings. Ewww and you could see the carcas in the mouth when she ( i think it was princess??) left them.
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She's stepping directly on them... stomping almost... with her talons! And they are so fragile-looking. Should that worry me? It looks harsh!
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thats little Trey on there. I don't know why he is so wound up today. he has had kids before.
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Was Trey like this last year Tracy? He cant or wont stay with the chicks very long. They just switched again.
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Do worries, the chicks are fine and it only looks like stomping because their feet are so big! They used to be called the "Great-footed Hawk" - Audubon sure knew how to name 'em ::) Actually their feet can practically cover one of the chicks at this age!
And the chicks are fine, less stomping than walking on tip-talons. And the talons are curved inward so think, upside-down basket rather than raptor (dinosaur) talons.
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Was Trey like this last year Tracy? He cant or wont stay with the chicks very long. They just switched again.
Trey's always like this at this time of the year. He's pretty maternal but doesn't get to sit with the kids much so when he does he's always trying to do everything - clean, tuck the kids in bed, look pretty for his sweetie ... hmmm, sounds like most Moms 8) .
As for not staying with the chicks, its warm enough outside that he doesn't have to. Now that they have hatched they don't need to be "baked" anymore, they are done. Now its just a case of keeping them warm/cool and dry until they can thermoregulate on their own. Sorry, that makes it sound easy and it isn't, there is actually where the hard work begins. Incubation was long and boring for them, now its more difficult and labour intensive.
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Just checking in. Princess is on the chicks now. Great stuff. I am going to learn how to put the time on pictures so they should be better
Would you like them cropped?
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OMG!!! I'm just getting home....9 pages of posts...took me about 15 minutes to get through them all....you guys did awesome with the play-by-play....and I'm so excited that we, or shall I clarify~P & T, have 3 little ones...Very special that some of you got to see a hatch....it is so exciting...and to think what they have to go through to get out of that egg...I can't believe Princess helped him/her out...what a super MOM!!!!! Happy Birthday you 3 little miracles....and congratulations....I can't wait to see the pics!!!
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Hi Bev. Great to see ya!!!! So glad you were "here" today for the "coming out" party!!!
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Just checking in. Princess is on the chicks now. Great stuff. I am going to learn how to put the time on pictures so they should be better
Would you like them cropped?
Hey Bev, you don't actually have to put the date/time ON the photo, just included with the photo. I tend to use dates & times for file names (ie, 08-05-28-1637) so that I can easily sort the files. You should also check out the FAQ section and the How Do I section of this board, I don't really want to have hardware/technical discussions on the non-technical threads. Looking forward to seeing your screen captures!
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For those of you wondering what it is that is giving both Princess and Trey whiplash while they are sitting on the chicks ... its flies. The winged buzzy kind that are attracted to trash, the kind in your backyard. You will frequently see both Princess and Trey snapping and chasing them down. Eating them too. When the chicks get older and bored they will go for them too.
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Hi skygirl.
with all the drama this year I was so glad to see the hatch. I had not seen a female help the little one out before. It was so neat to see the little legs and bottom.
what a great day!!!! :) :)
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Princess is really panting . Must be warm
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thats little Trey on there. I don't know why he is so wound up today. he has had kids before.
Ooops! I guess I assumed it was her, since I didn't see the switch.
Do worries, the chicks are fine and it only looks like stomping because their feet are so big! They used to be called the "Great-footed Hawk" - Audubon sure knew how to name 'em ::) Actually their feet can practically cover one of the chicks at this age!
And the chicks are fine, less stomping than walking on tip-talons. And the talons are curved inward so think, upside-down basket rather than raptor (dinosaur) talons.
Okay, whew. Good to know!
Just got a looooong look at the three little fluffballs alone all piled in a heap. Very cute.
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Now that the chicks have hatched and Trey and Princess seemed to have moved "down" a bit, is it possible to move the camera - or (assuming that is hard because of its location) zoom out a teeny bit?
I know we ask the moon and the stars! ;D
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I too would like to add my thanks to everyone who kept posting each little event as the day went on. I discovered that I can, in fact, read the blog at work and, altho I couldn't see anything, I didn't feel like I missed much other than the visual. In short, I felt like I was watching too! It made the day much easier to get through. Thanks again.
And, the "egg timer" comment and the email notice from the "boss" had me laughing out loud at my desk! ;D ;D ;D
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Interesting - it's feeding time for the Radisson triplets, and it's also feeding time at the Great River cam! Princess is blocking the view, so I'm watching the other cam. I just think it's fascinating that both nests had the same feeding time. :D
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I'm glad you asked this question because I was just about to.
Thanks
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I realize you can't sit there 24/7 and constantly move the camera, but I too would be happy if the camera pulled back a little bit. I love the close-up shots, but since right now we can't see the bottom part of Princess's body, we can't see the babies. I saw the top of some fluff, not not the real thing.
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Well I could not do anything today except watch, I was determined to see that last chick hatch. It was worth all the watching. I was so tired today though that I had a nap after supper. lol. I see the forum is a lot quieter tonight, perhaps others are having a rest too. ;D :) :)
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I think you're right, Deedream. After all those late nights, everyone is resting with Princess! lol
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I noticed the quiet forum too - sort of like the 'Calm AFTER the Storm' I guess - hatching was the main focus, stressing about the wind & rain, waiting & wondering - now we can relax and watch the chicks grow. :)
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I think we all want to see a feeding it two as well, but so far, they keep there back to the camera so we can't see that. I wished we could change that camera angle just a bit as well. Keep wanting to adjust my window but its all ready at the bottom. Can just barely see a few bits of fluff. I was trying to remember, and it seems to be that the angle or view changed a bit last week, (could be wrong)so hopefully they can change it remotely.
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I do remember Tracy saying they would adjust it when needed, I'm just not sure how easy or hard it is for them to do. - Hopefully they don't have to climb up the building to change the view ;D ;D - as it may need adjusting alot! ::)
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I just got back home a while ago so haven't had a chance to check the webcam til about an hour or so ago. I didn't get the nap I had hoped for but that too was worth it, got shots of an osprey !! Yeah seeing the last one hatch was definately worth the wait that's for sure!!!
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I was at work watching and missed the third one hatch, but saw it shortly after! They are too sweet!
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awwwww look at them all tuck under, can see enough even though it is at the bottom of the screen. I feel like yanking my screen down a bit so I can see more lol
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I posted under "camera placement" and asked if Tracy would pull back the camera just a bit, so we would have more of a view as they move around. I realize it means not so close a view, but just a little might do the trick.
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In the meantime, you can tell it's getting dark here. Pic is starting to get bad. Hope they have a warm and peacefull night! :)
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My suggestion for naming the chicks is an homage to Princess & Trey and their perseverence through horrible weather conditions - what about something like..... Wind, Rain & Snow?
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I looked up the date that the first chick was hatched last year and it was May 28 also.
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My friend the accountant told me that sometime tomorrow morning around 9:30 or 10:00, just after coffee, the remote positioning system would be tested for Tracy to use to do just that. Tracy mentioned that she would be posting a note to let all know that there may be a couple "movements" around that time while the system is activated.
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Really, Zoey? That's interesting. We were so impatient!
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I like the name suggestions too but since last years theme for chick names was wind types we might need a new non-weather theme haha.
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Good morning everyone...its 7:35 am Eastern USA time...Had a few minutes to look in on the new family....all's quiet. Looks like the sun's up, some wind, feathers lightly blowing in the breeze. Princess is still snoozing and is tight on the little ones for right now...Guess she didn't get much sleep last night...what a happy problem to have...I'll check back in later...have a great day everyone..
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I am looking forward to submitting ideas and voting on the web for names. How lucky we are to have 3 wee ones to name!
Ruth
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I can't seem to get the cam??/Anyone else???
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Ah, that explains what I just saw!
Good work!
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Hey, who re-aimed the camera??
I went to get another cuppa and when I return, voila!!
Good Work Tracy!!
Grelber
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Well, this is annoying! I can't get to the site and everyone is telling us how nice the new view is. Not fair!!! >:(
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*phew*
Thanks for posting Bev. I thought I was alone!
I get a nasty 404 Error when I try to access it. :'(
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Ha Ha! - nice one Loriann, I think you hit the nail on the head! Now we can get back to work and relax a little. It'll be nice when 'Mom' can get off those babies a bit more so we can see them!! ;D ;D
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Yes! Perfect view!
Thanks Tracy ;D
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oh boy glad I checked in. I can't access the cam either, Haven't been able to all morning. Either get a 404 error, and even a 403 that says I don't have persmission to enter the website. Now I get redirected to WirelessCBC whatever that is. I have cbc.ca as my home page also, and always have, and it goes to cbc.ca/mobile with just some text down the middle of page, no matter what I type in!!!! Soo upset. Just spent an hour on Internet Explorer help page trying to see what is wrong with my puter. It ony a month old laptop with Vista. Thought maybe vista was screwing up, but I can go easily to all the other pages I want except windows update, and cbc. Hmmmm.
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Princess is quite bored. She keeps looking around, preening, moving around, and now pecking at the nest material.. It must be time for a shift change or Lunch!
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?? - Strange, I haven't had any problems at all....wonder what's up with that? Princess has changed position and is now facing the camera, she's just finished tucking all 3 chicks under her chest, can see some white fluffy butts squirming around under there!! ;D ;D
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Good morning everyone...its 7:35 am Eastern USA time...Had a few minutes to look in on the new family....all's quiet. Looks like the sun's up, some wind, feathers lightly blowing in the breeze. Princess is still snoozing and is tight on the little ones for right now...Guess she didn't get much sleep last night...what a happy problem to have...I'll check back in later...have a great day everyone..
Thanks for the update, SGB! At least we know all went well during the night and everyone's happy at the Radisson , even if we can't see them!
Maybe CBC and bosses at the workplace got together and caused this little problem CBC is having --- it really is causing less viewing today, just like the announcement below said! Had a good laugh when I read the 'announcement'!
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Maybe it's a 'Non-Local' problem? ??? I'm in Wpg and camera has been fine all morning. ? Princess just finished scooping a bunch of gravel towards her, made a little ridge to lean on I guess. Chicks are hidden from view now, nicely tucked away. 8)
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Nope, not a non-local issue. I've been trying since I got into work this morning and can't access either the web cam or the webpage, other than the mobile version they have up now. And I'm definately in Winnipeg too. Also know that IT hasn't made any adjustments here at work since I'm basically the IT department here. hehehe. I'm hoping they fix it soon, I'd really like to see how Princess, Trey and the babies are all doing.
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Hm, well hope it's fixed soon for you guys!! Princess (I think it's her) is sitting up a little higher so the fluffy butts are sticking out again. ;D So cute! ;) Oh never mind, all tucked away again. The wind seems to be picking up a bit. ::)
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Hope they all stay warm. There's talk of a thunderboomer this afternoon and from the looks of the clouds outside I'd say they're probably right.
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Wow the camera is really shaking up there! Looks like an earthquake or something! Hopefully no one blows away!
Still appears as though Princess is on duty. Haven't seen a shift change yet but I've been away from the computer for a bit so maybe I missed something.
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Finally a shift change! Trey has taken over for Princess but he doesn't appear to have any food for the chicks. He's just kind of looking at the little squirming fluff balls like he can't decide if he wants to sit down or not. I guess its hard to get them all under him since he's not as big as Princess. After a bit of wiggling he seems to have them all under (for the most part).
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Shift Change! - Princess is off for a break, leaving a squirming bundle of chicks alone for a few secs - Trey enters stage left, pokes & inspects a bit, then manoevers himself to cover his babies for the next while. Some shoving required to get them all under!! - Sort of a sideways view, chicks seem to be covered - just a little fluff sticking out. ;D - Cloudy & quite breezy now, hope the rain stays away! :o
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Shift Change! - Princess is off for a break, leaving a squirming bundle of chicks alone for a few secs - Trey enters stage left, pokes & inspects a bit, then manoevers himself to cover his babies for the next while. Some shoving required to get them all under!! - Sort of a sideways view, chicks seem to be covered - just a little fluff sticking out. ;D - Cloudy & quite breezy now, hope the rain stays away! :o
Don't know if you have managed to get out of your "tower" today Ballywing, so just thought I would add that the temperature outside is perfect, not too warm, not cool. As for the rain, its not forecasted to be much, so Princess and Trey should have no problem keeping the chicks dry.
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You are welcome gang, managed to get to the Radisson to change the camera angle a smidge. Eye-spy's accountant friend is a good source for information on the camera, and yes, we will be installing the remote manipulatin software so that I can move the camera from wherever I happen to be. I will post an update when we are working on it so y'all don't panic if/when you should see the image moving.
FYI - I don't work anywhere near the Hotel, so when things have to be adjusted on-site, it will take me some time to get away from work and get down there. Also, I didn't move the camera yesterday because until the birds settle a bit after hatching, you can't tell where they are going to be.
For those of you who haven't seen the new view yet because of the website problem, you'll like it when you finally do, don't worry. And Ballywing has been providing play-by-play coverage from her office window on the "We have Chicks" thread .
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Oh geez, Trey had his back to the wind, got flipped right off the chicks! :o- turned around now, chicks back in place - much better - camera's being blown around a bit though, lots of shaking going on. Temp is very nice & comfy , as Tracy said... :)not sure if the camera is working yet for those having problems this morning? That's why the play-by-play to keep you informed..... ;D
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Tech note:
We had some May 29th observations on another thread so I have merged them into this one. Falconista, Grelber and Ballywing have been kind enough to provide play-by-plays as they can see what's going on!
Please DO NOT post technical questions/discussions here as we are repeated ourselves on different threads. I have moved website-related posts to the "Technical Questions" board - look under "May 29 - Website Problems".
Thanks!
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I must have missed a shift change, seems to be Princess on again (Trey sure doesn't hang around long!) The wind gets under her tail feathers & she's had a few close calls almost tumbling over. I guess facing away from the wind protects the chicks better...but not 'Mom' :o
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Yes, quite a lot of wind and camera shaking. Princess is digging a trench again! Maybe she is looking at get the little ones hunkered down in it so they don't blow away!
Grelber
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Hey, looks like a feeding? - Every time I leave I seem to miss something. Can't see much with her back to us, but lots of bobbing up & down, some little white mouths popping up at times - looks like lunch to me! 8)
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Three o'clock feeding time...
For those suffering from withdrawal, I captured some pics..
Look here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/rwsnyder/RadissonPeregrines (http://picasaweb.google.com/rwsnyder/RadissonPeregrines)
Enjoy,
Grelber
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Nuts, should have left the angle where it was, they little demons have moved back to their pre-hatching location! :'(
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Nice pics. Hopefully that'll do me until tomorrow now! Crossing my fingers that CBC will be back to normal tomorrow. Thanks Grelber!
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Super pics! - Aren't the little fluffballs just the sweetest things!!!! ;D Clouds are moving in, might get some rain soon. :(
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OH MY!!!!! - Wind just sent Princess flying, took a couple chicks with her!!! - Gave me a heart attack. Only 1 chick left in place - ...what the heck...where are the other 2???? She got right back on the 1 chick but I didn't see the other 2 get collected first...my gosh ....will keep watching...... :o
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Ok, she left the chick, went over to the corner for a minute, seemed to be working on something - now I see the other 2 a couple feet away - Princess went back to the first chick for a minute, leaving the 2 stranded ones - then got up again & shovelled 1 back in to place, then the other - Yup, took some work but they're all together again. ..Phew!!! That was way too scary. :o
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Perhaps it's good some of us can't see what's going on. I'm glad I didn't have to watch that scary bit and only read about it after all was well again. phew! :o
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Holy moly I think my heart stopped for a minute there! I was worried someone blew away!
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Me too!!! Especially when Princess collected herself and sat right back on the 1 chick left , as if there was nobody else around!! - The other 2 were right out of camera sight. ..Whew! - She's sideways to the wind now, better position. :)
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Ok, she left the chick, went over to the corner for a minute, seemed to be working on something - now I see the other 2 a couple feet away - Princess went back to the first chick for a minute, leaving the 2 stranded ones - then got up again & shovelled 1 back in to place, then the other - Yup, took some work but they're all together again. ..Phew!!! That was way too scary. :o
I was watching it too . . . very worrisome to say the least. Was very relieved to see them all back under her once again!
Trey and Princess sure aren't catching many breaks with this weather we've been having . . . hope it settles down soon.
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Thanks so much for the pics. It was good to see the chicks.
Three o'clock feeding time...
For those suffering from withdrawal, I captured some pics..
Look here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/rwsnyder/RadissonPeregrines (http://picasaweb.google.com/rwsnyder/RadissonPeregrines)
Enjoy,
Grelber
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I'm having chick withdrawals. I haven't been able to have my fix today at all, so I envy those of you who were able to get on there before the website went down!!!! :o
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Yay! I can see the view and I like the new angle (though it's clear they moved again). Hurrah!
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Hi, TP Chick. I had thought you had The Power at home already. Sorry for fussing about it. Thanks to you, Eye-Spy, Larry the Camera Guy, and Larry's accountant friend! lol
(Just as an experiment, I'm attaching one of each smiley to see what they look like in a posting. Ignore it, plz. hee hee)
:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Hmm, they look the same. I was hoping I could make the font size bigger so I'd have a better look. Oh well.
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OFFICE MANAGERS EVERYWHERE ARE REJOYCING AT THE BIRTH AND HOPE THAT WORKERS EVERYWHERE WILL NOW RETURN TO THEIR ASSIGNED TASKS.
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ROTFL!!!
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Grelber, thanks for the pics. It was nice to see since I missed all day.
And Vortimaxx , thanks so much for the feed site. I can't believe I can see them again!!!!
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oh it is so nice to see them again!!!
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It makes me happy to bring joy to you all ;D
Glad it works for you. (News Flash: Bandwidth increases) ::)
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Just checked the website. Looks like its back up and running.
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ha ha, well I had cbc for my home page, and also had dirrect link to the webcam saved in favorites, and my link in favorites worked finally, after trying every few minutes, and catching up on all the posts of the day, then I got your link you posted. such drama last nite and today. Wonder will it always be like this? lol. Sounded quite dramatic today when Princess got flipped and the two chicks went flying, hope they are not injured. Good grief. Glad I missed that part. Day is not over yet though and my its windy again isn't it? Was quite cool here too and frost warning tonite in NB. Oh I am happy now that things have settled down, thanks for the great updates all.
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WOW....the wind is really whipping around the cam....I think I'm getting seasick... ;D
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This is my first chance today to view the webcam, I was out most of the day and of course CBC was having it's problems when I checked this morning. Wow is it ever windy. Thanks to those who kept us informed with play by play of action. Glad I didn't see mom get tossed about by the wind.
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Just an idea --- I emailed myself Vortimaxx's web address for the camera in case this happens again. A lot easier than trying to remember what forum area it was posted in.
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Just an idea --- I emailed myself Vortimaxx's web address for the camera in case this happens again. A lot easier than trying to remember what forum area it was posted in.
Liz,
It would be best if you could use the CBC web page to access the camera.
The way you describe does work but the CBC gets no credit when you use it that way and we would
like CBC to get full credit for supplying the technical expertise necessary to provide the camera et al.
Regards,
Grelber
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I always use the CBC website. I'm a CBC fan. No worries there! It's just my back-up plan in case I ever need it.
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I always use the CBC website. I'm a CBC fan. No worries there! It's just my back-up plan in case I ever need it.
Excellent!
Wow.. I'm not the only CBC fan in Winnipeg..!!
If it weren't for the CBC, there probably wouldn't be a Falcon-Cam..
Cheers,
Grelber
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Here, here to the CBC! lol. Yes I wake up to them every morning and its my home page. Get all my news there. Nice links to weather and everything from there too,, like this fantastic web cam!
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just checked the weather on CBC ;D for Winnipeg and it seems it will only go down to 13C there tonite. Not to bad huh? For me,,,, it says 2C. Think the weather has came east like it usually does and has hit us, as its been colder and very windy the last couple days. Princess seems to be doing a good job sheltering her chicks. Poor Trey would have a heck of a time, hes so little. :) :) :)
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Oh my 8:35 Winnipeg time, Princess just took off, 3 cute fuzzy little balls of fluff tumblilng around. Oh I see feet, is it Trey or Princess, oh its both, no, now one left, think Mom is back with supper. Back to camera, can't see, but pretty sure its Princess. Trey must have dropped supper off and Princess went and got it maybe. lol Oh yes, princess swinging around a leg off something, big feather stuck out. Oh gross, looks like something big, is being pulled apart, huge long feathers. ackkkkk! lol
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No, Grelber, you and I are not the only CBC fans in Wpg. lol, And I've passed this site on to family across the continent, in Ontario, Quebec, BC, Texas, Illinois. And like Deedream, it's my main site for news everyday.
I really appreciate that they have this site for us!
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LOL, Deedream. Thanks for the visual! I missed it making my last post... heck!
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9 minutes in to the late supper, Princess still tearing at ... something big. Thankfully we dont' get to see too much of it anymore. lol. yes her head is still bobbing up and down, feeding her babies good for the long nite ahead. ;D ;D ;D
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8:51. Feeding over for the chicks. Princess flew off with what looked like still a good half of a very large............ pigeon? Trey on the nest now. Oh,, ha ha,, after about 2 minutes, princess back, must have polished off the rest of it and is now snuggling down with her new family. :DTrey looking relieved is gone for the night. Again. ::)
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Both Princess and Trey will eat some of the food they bring before it comes/after it leaves the nest. The chicks really can't eat much at this stage, so the parents get the leftovers. (Hmmm, that sounds like human parents too ...) When the chicks get older they will devour everything brought to them so Princess and Trey will be hunting for 3+themselves every time they go out. That's when I feel bad for the adults - all that work and those kids will keep begging for more (Hmmm, that sounds like .... well you know the rest of that sentence ;D )
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LOL!!!! Doesn't it just!
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yes it does sound very human like. ;D Thanks for clarifying that though. Watching I am only guessing what is going on when they leave the nest. I have often wondered who exactly is catching the food. Seems wierd sometimes that the mom leaves suddenly, then Dad shows up empty handed, then mom is back with food! I have said well did Trey already catch something and she is just going to go get it and if so ,why would he not just bring it. Then I thought well maybe she just see him coming so she says oh thank god and leaves and within a minute or two catches something and brings it back? I have been curious about that. Seems to be alot of going back and forth by Mom, so I was and am hoping that maybe the Dad already caught it and she was just picking it up? :) ;D ;D
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We did see quite clearly the other day on the great river cam, a song bird got too close to the nest, and bam, mom was out and you could see her fly down below, and within seconds really not even a minute she was back with a snack, so to speak. Euuuuhk! So thats why I wa not sure who caught supper and why the mom leaves and brings back the food, if he catches it sometimes? Also seen that Dad show up and sit on the rail outside the nest with food in his mouth then they both flew off and she came back with it? Maybe all of the above happens? lol :D
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Well it's raining now, supposed to keep up til tomorrow so it'll be a wet night - hope Princess can keep her babies dry. - At least it's not cold! :D
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Is it? ..... Stuck my nose out the window. Yes, it is! But it's a gentle rain. I too hope Princess can keep them dry.
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The light is disappearing, but they look safely tucked in for the night under Mum.
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yes they looked snugged in quite good and she was fairly close to the wall and laying low. I'd say she's the best Mom a chick can get from what I have seen so.......sweet dreams
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good morning! My first peek of the day and it looks llike a switch was made at some point overnite or earlier, little Trey i think is on the nest right now. Looks a little windy, no tumbling about yet.
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Let's try this again today! I've started another new topic to reduce the size of the ones from previous days so that people don't have to wade through 15 pages of posts to read what's going on ;D
It's about 9amAST and its feeding time!! Princess (I think - hard to tell by looking at her back) is giving the little ones their breakfast. They look hungry today! They're sitting there with their little heads stretched high, mouths wide open looking for food. They seem to be getting the hang of it though.
Hopefully today will run smoothly and everyone will be able to get back to watching the little ones without any problems!
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I just saw for the first time the little one's getting fed ,I am so happy .
it looked like everyone got some food and all are pretty strong ;D .
did not see who brought breakfast anyone know .
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It was Princess who fed them because after she was done Trey came in and sat on the chicks for a moment (hopefully giving Princess a chance to eat some breakfast). But Princess is back on duty now, probably until lunch time!
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I really like the idea of having a new thread per day. It's much simpler than wading through 15 pages or more of posts to figure out where you last read something. Thanks for trying again, Faconista!
I can see the cam this morning (unlike all of yesterday!) and it certainly looks like the wind has died down. Much more pleasant. :)
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Well I"m at work today, no webcam :'( so any updates from those who can see the goings-on, will be much appreciated!!! ;D ;D.....How can we get this thread up to the top of the list?? ???
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Feeding time! Mom is feeding the chicks but again has her back to the camera so can't see too much! Looks like the food was some sort of bird as i think i saw claws hanging as she was bringing it in to them. I still think it's hilarious how the chicks are so lethargic when they're done eating!
Mom flew away with the food and now it's daddy back to watch the chicks.
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Thanks for the feeding updates...I've been told by many who are "in the know", that the parents often have a "food stash" away from the nest..this year in one of the Italy nests, the juvies located the secret "pantry" and had a feast on the leftovers... ;D Talk about teenagers cleaning out the refrigerator!!!
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oh wait now it's Princess back on. Did I miss a shift change? or maybe i was wrong all along and it was Princess still after the feeding...but I don't think so. Hmmm...
Thanks for the feeding updates...I've been told by many who are "in the know", that the parents often have a "food stash" away from the nest..this year in one of the Italy nests, the juvies located the secret "pantry" and had a feast on the leftovers... ;D Talk about teenagers cleaning out the refrigerator!!!
LOL! ;)
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Looks like rain - I'm seeing raindrops pass by the camera. Poor Princess - but then again they chose the nest! Silly birds. ::)
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Yes it's raining, I can see the raindrops in the foreground and water running off Princess's feathers not a nice day. And yes Tracy not only have I been enjoying the webcam I spotted a female red winged blackbird going to her nest and saw little beaks pointing up. Tis the time of year for Mother Nature at work with the new generations of birds.
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Looks like rain - I'm seeing raindrops pass by the camera. Poor Princess - but then again they chose the nest! Silly birds. ::)
Yes I do agree!! - I'm not impressed with the choice of nest location this year - :-\((too open, too low, too small, too everything) - hee hee - well I guess it's none of our business but we just want things to be nice for them and to stop fretting about them! - hope they agree in the end that this was a bad choice, and go back to the better place near the roof next year!!! 8)
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Like the new view? Larry is at the Hotel setting up the remote software so he tweaked the view a bit more (Thank you Larry!). Looks like it is still "zoomed" enough for you all to get your fix of cute chick pics!
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The new view is great! I now have a very clear picture of a soggy Princess. ;)
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Awwww - I can't see the webcam but the word 'Soggy' is description enough. Poor girl. :-\ Though I s'pose they're alot tougher than we think, we probably suffer more watching them, than they do living the whole experience. ;D ;D
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Oh, another meal time! Princess gave us a better view as she was standing to the right hand side of the chicks. It's Trey now and he doesn't seem so wet. The rain's let up but it's still really cloudy, so it might start again later, who knows! Winnipeg weather, sheesh!
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I just saw a great lunch for our little ones and a shift change for princess .
it was great trey came in with lunch handed it over to princess and sat and watched princess feed for a moment the went off till lunch was over and now he is back keeping the little one warm and mom is off for a little rest i hope ;D
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That last feeding was great. You got a great view of two of the chicks with their mouths gaping wide for more! Great camera angle :)
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Could someone please inform both Princess and Trey that it is very rude to eat with your back to the other 'guests' that are joining them during their meals.
While it is a lovely view of each of their respective bums, we want to see the 'kids'. !
And I am totally busted at home, having just been caught trying to look around the monitor picture to see past birdie butt... turning my head, leaning in and over, and trying to peer past the back end of a bird. ( which does not work by the way.)
My family is now completely convinced I'm nuts.
::)
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So, it's Trey on the chicks right now and it's comical how much smaller he is when you see him trying to cover them all up. Valiant effort indeed! ;D
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and my goodness the kids are squirmy right now! :o
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I think the kids are trying to get some post-gorging sleep but Trey, the little neat freak that he is, just can't settle down ... here he goes again!!!
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Trey's nest cleaning just took him right off the chicks . . . they appeared squirming behind his tail! It is a bit comical to watch!
Is he forgetting his warming duties with all this nest-cleaning, or is he bored? Or upset about the condition of the nest? Too wet, etc?
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Wish my man cleaned up like that :(
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Six of one, half-dozen of another. Trey has always been the one that cleans. When he was in the nestbox he would chew at the wood along one edge even though there was nothing on it! For hours it seemed!
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I'm really new to Peregrine watching, so I wasn't sure what he was doing when he kept, what looked like, 'eating' random things around the nest. Thanks for the heads up guys!
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I finally got to see a feeding......
Yeah little ones....... :D
5:40
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Mine used to do that too, until I gave him back the remote...
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Tracy,
Is it ok to post the pictures I take of the falcons on other sites?
Just wondering.
Doreen
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I wonder if the web-cam feed is lagging a little bit here in Southern Ontario.
I noticed Doreen's comment on a feeding, and wasn't sure what she was talking about... and then one minute later, Princess comes in with some grub for the little guys.
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I think the camera is the same.. they've been fed twice in the last 20 minutes or so...
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I dunno, Imabee. I wasn't seeing any feeding then, but it's dinner time now!
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This is a new feeding, the one I saw was around 5:40
Doreen
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I guess that's the end of that - looks like the chicks were awfully gorged and sleepy and dinner #2 was removed.
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Ah thanks guys!
I wasn't sure if it there was a lag, or not. Good to know we're all watching at the same time. ;D
I love watching these little guys grow, but I do feel a little bad for the other birds that are caught for feeding. :P
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Awwwww the look like a little teepee sitting there. It was indeed comical watching Trey houseclean and then try to get the young ones situated underneath him.
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Here is a bit of a noob question, but..
Do Princess and Trey ever occupy the nest at the same time?
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Not that I've seen.
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The teepee was both delightful and hilarious. And finally, my son got to see the chicks -- thanks for staying off them for a whole minute! ;D
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I believe Trey is calling for Mom , come sit on these children I can't cover them all.
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Ahhh, she's sleeping!
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I am soooo waiting for that event. Tracy on a crane, Larry on the camera, I remember a conversation...........
Don't forget to smile !
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9:35pm local time - Princess sleeping, 3 chicks poking out from under her chest - one butt, one head, one butt - heeee - Sleep well little family! :D
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Here is a bit of a noob question, but..
Do Princess and Trey ever occupy the nest at the same time?
I have also wondered if both of them are ever in the nest at the same time. At night when they are sleeping is only one of the parents in the nest ledge? I know it is dark and it would most likely be a guess.
Also wondered if they go to the nest box at all just to hang out when they are not on chick duty?
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Another good question, Moonstar! Why don't I think of these?
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Sat morning, bright & early - well not bright really. 11 degrees now and Princess is being rained on again. :-\ Got the chicks tucked up tight - can see them wriggling around though, they sure grow fast~!! The good news is - it's clearing to the west with a high of 20 forecast. So hang on little family, should be better soon. 8)
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Looks like breakfast!! Princess gets up & leaves the scene for a few secs -Nice look at the fluffballs. Back she comes with 'something' ???....Trey must have dropped it off & left again...Little mouths open wide. AGAIN her back to us, blocking the view. :( No wasting any time, a quick feast and Princess is right back on top, sheltering her kiddies from the cool wind - her back is to the wind, so hope she keeps those tail feathers down!!!! :o. ...ahh she's thought better of it and turned around. Good! ;D And the rain has stopped. ;D
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I've been watching the falcons for two years and have only ever seen them deliver/eat various birds. This morning, however, at roughly 9:00AST it seemed Trey delivered a rodent to the nest. Do peregrines occasionally substitute rodents when a bird might not be readily available?
As an aside, there seemed to be a funny exchange between Princess and Trey. She seemed to look at him with some puzzlement when he arrived, he fretted about for a moment, and then Princess appeared to shoo him away before tearing into the little critter.
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lol :D maybe she was perturbed at the less than 5 Star offering! ;D ;D ;D
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Here is a bit of a noob question, but..
Do Princess and Trey ever occupy the nest at the same time?
I have also wondered if both of them are ever in the nest at the same time. At night when they are sleeping is only one of the parents in the nest ledge? I know it is dark and it would most likely be a guess.
Also wondered if they go to the nest box at all just to hang out when they are not on chick duty?
Typically, no the parents don't hang out together in the nest at night. I have sometimes seen the two of them on the same ledge briefly before the dark sets in, but it usually isn't for long. Neither the nestbox nor the ledge are particularly good roosting locations. Both get used during the breeding season, and the ledge sometimes a bit afterwards by the adults, but the Radisson sign (as an example) is used much more for roosting/resting.
As for visiting the nestbox when not using it, they do, usually to eat something. Found a couple of bodies/body parts in there this season. I leave them in there to see how often the birds come back and they seem to be there at least once a week because within a couple of days of find a body, its gone and there are marks that the peregrines have wandered on the gravel.
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I intro'd my Mom to the wonders of this Falcon world yesterday, (another convert!!) ;D - anyway she told me she saw a 'mouse' being delivered yesterday - I wondered about that but I guess maybe they DO eat rodents too.. ???
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This morning the breakfast at 9:20 was ? Looked like a rat or rabbit, something with fur. :o
Princess was finally off to the side and we could see her feed the little ones.
Took a picture but it's fuzzy ah well, it was so exciting. ;D
Everyone is quite now.
Doreen
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In case you missed it, here's a short video of Breakfast!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_fK1DLiZUE
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I've been watching the falcons for two years and have only ever seen them deliver/eat various birds. This morning, however, at roughly 9:00AST it seemed Trey delivered a rodent to the nest. Do peregrines occasionally substitute rodents when a bird might not be readily available?
It was a shorebird actually, a sora rail I think. The head was taken off (not unusual, that's the best part so the hunter usually gets it) and the floppy part were its long legs. As for substituting rodents, not here. To catch them you have to get to the ground and that's really just too dangerous for the birds in an urban environment. These guys need lots of open space to hunt in. Some bats have been taken by peregrines. Some bat caves in the US have peregrines that specialize in bat hunting. They wait for the bats to emerge en mass and they can be pretty confident of getting a couple before all the bats have dispersed. Not much eating on them, so probably a case of lots of bats, so lots of opportunity to be successful - the best equation for a predator sometimes. I think there is also a northern European or Asian subspecies that will hunt more rodents, but that is a result of their environment, open, flat terrain and an abundance of rodents that aren't too big to catch. Keep in mind that peregrines weigh between 1.5 and 2.5 lbs on average (the females are bigger & heavier) and they can only carry so much weight when they fly. Rodents, being mammals, are quite heavy for their size, whereas peregrines are much lighter in relation to their size.
As an aside, there seemed to be a funny exchange between Princess and Trey. She seemed to look at him with some puzzlement when he arrived, he fretted about for a moment, and then Princess appeared to shoo him away before tearing into the little critter.
May not have had anything to do with the hand-off, could have been another bird nearby, an strange sound, a sound from the chicks, lots of things. Keep in mind when you are watching them that they use one eye to look at things closely, so when you see them brooding the chicks and they turn their head sideways, the upside eye is looking at something overhead, not straight ahead. Its also why yous see them with one eye open and one eye closed lots of the time.
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Great video, I only got to see the end of the feeding when I logged on.
Now I saw it all because you recorded it. Thanks so much ;D
Doreen
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I intro'd my Mom to the wonders of this Falcon world yesterday, (another convert!!) ;D - anyway she told me she saw a 'mouse' being delivered yesterday - I wondered about that but I guess maybe they DO eat rodents too.. ???
Sorry mice aren't worth the effort to catch - no meat and catching them is difficult and dangerous for the peregrines, they do kill themselves when they hunt too close to the ground or other obstacles.
Sorry Mom! :D
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lol :D maybe she was perturbed at the less than 5 Star offering! ;D ;D ;D
If it was a sora rail, she may have been more startled at getting a 5 star offering. A prey study we did quite a number of years ago, showed that for the downtown peregrines, 60% of their diet was composed of four species - pigeons (that because of the sheer number in close proximity), sora rails (shorebirds), northern flickers (also called yellow-shafted flickers) and black-billed cuckoos (I'd never seen one until I saw it dead on the Hotel years ago.) The rest of their diet are similar species, mostly shorebirds and ducks - the teals in particular are popular because they are a common duck and a bit smaller, therefore easier to transport short distances. You won't ever see a whole duck come to the nestledge though, part of one, probably, but it would be hard to tell, they adults would probably only bring the torso, or part of the torso.
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Super video, great view of the chicks!!! - So no rodents. Good to know, and it makes sense, can't picture these majestic birds running around on the ground....chasing furry critters... ;D..Tracy your answers are so informative, we'll all be experts in no time!!! 8)
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oh my is it ever pouring down. Here and there it would seem. Fairly windy as well.
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Tracy, thanks so much for all that information!!! I have never heard of a sora rail....gonna have to go look that one up!!!
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I'm trying to get a bunch of errands done so that I can get back and post a bunch of photos and update the Project website. I'll try to get to the photos first, particularly the photos I have of prey remains, that way those of you who want to know what kinds of things the Radisson birds are eating, can see for yourselves. And no worries folks, there will be a warning on the gallery so that someone doesn't accidentally stumble across photos that might cause them distress.
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For those of you far away, there is thunder rumbling at the moment though to the west the sky is cloudy but bright-bright. Might get some sun on that ledge yet this morning! Temperature is nice outside but a little sun would go a long way to drying things up for the Radisson birds. Still a chance for thunderstorms later, and a lesser chance of rain tomorrow, then sunny on Monday & Tuesday. At least that's the forecast for right now. If you want to see for yourselves what kind of weather the peregrines are having to contend with, Click Here (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php?PHPSESSID=336153b4db323cba4182776a79414a65&topic=69.0) to go to the post with a great link to a construction cam a couple of blocks from the Hotel.
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I watched the thunderstorm pour down about an hour ago and thought there might even have been hail too although it may just have been very large droplets. I was amazed to watch the fastest switch ever (3 seconds) during the storm and was so impressed at their efficiency in maintaining cover for the chicks! Also was fortunate to watch an earlier feeding with full view of the chicks and the wonderful attentiveness at ensuring all were well fed. Well done mom and dad!!
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Thanks so much for posting the morning feed video - it was great! ;D Those of us who are still sleeping at that time really do appreciate the effort.
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How funny - I finish watching the video that showed the morning feed, and there is a new feeding happening! Looked like a big meal coming in, too. 8)
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Oh wow got a chance to see Trey and Princess side by side, what a difference in size. And a chance to see feeding, amaaaaazing!!
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Wow, that was an abrupt end to the feeding. Princess wolfed down the last bit then shoved the kids underneath - probably because of the rain. It was pretty amusing!
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Tracy, thanks for all that info on feeding. I too thought I saw a mouse being brought in yesterday. I've never even heard we have cuckoos here, so I'll be looking that one up to see what it looks like! :)
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Just had a great view of the chicks....checked in when Trey(I think) was just about finishing feeding the babes. walked off camera with the remains to discard I guess and babes were left alone for a few seconds....oh so sweet!!!! a little panic at first as I was just seeing two heads.Now they are tucked away again.First actual view of the babes by themselves. They are just so precious!!!!
Bye.........
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hi Marie, aren't they cute? Listen to add a comment on todays viewing of Princess and Trey scroll on down the page to the Radisson Peregrines then click and at the top it says May 31-Observations click in there and post away, everybody loves reading it! I think The Peregrine Chick meant that this here is for comments on her blog that she writes over on the peregrinations page. Takes a bit to catch on but soon you will be zooming around the forum reading everything!! Take note of the symbols over on the left hand side of the page beside each topic, if its orange colored then there is something new to read since you last looked at that page. Find that helps too. :) :) :) :) :)
From the Peregrine Chick: Thanks for helping out Marie!
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When I check the feed from the cam tomorrow, I'll see if I can't get a better look at the prey and see if I can come up with some ideas as to what it was ... I'll even post a photo of what it looked like alive if I can id it. Hope to be able to save some of the feed as videos too, but haven't done it before so I'll tell you how it goes and I'll be posting them on the Project website with links from the Photo Gallery when I do.
Really wish Princess would feed from the side for y'all ... but there are lots more meals to watch! ;D
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Hey, SGB. Thanks for posting that breakfast video. It was great to see. I seem to catch more feedings at Elk River than I do with P&T. :)
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Tracy, as I've been watching the various sites I have started to wonder... how on earth do those little ones breathe when they're all crammed together and are being sat on by something so much bigger? It's not like their little heads are poking out!
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Tracy, as I've been watching the various sites I have started to wonder... how on earth do those little ones breathe when they're all crammed together and are being sat on by something so much bigger? It's not like their little heads are poking out!
It does make you wonder doesn't it? :D The parents aren't actually sitting on them, they are actually standing over them with their wings down around them. When they are actually lying on them, its mostly feathers that is around the chicks. Its only the brood patch which actually seems to touch the chicks and that is necessary to transfer heat/warmth to the chicks. If the chicks don't need to be warmer, the adults keep the brood patch (bare skin) off them.
Its actually a very neat system.
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All's quiet at the scrape right now. Princess (?) is tight on the chicks, but awake. No wind...Oh wait, she's dozing off....now's she's awakeThat's the end of my exciting report for now... :) I'll check back in later...
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I think the kids must be stirring...she's not as tight on the chicks...moving around a tad...wiggling and squirming a bit, trying to get comfy. Back's to the cam...so I can't swear this isn't Trey. Slight breeze. No breakfast yet..
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Still waiting for breakfast...so I think I'll go have mine.... ;D
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...(I feel like a broken record...)...Still waiting for breakfast, and the natives are gettin restless...playing with rocks, preening, kissing the kids...
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Mom has just left...maybe to pick up breakfast...the kids are jockying to see who gets to be on the bottom...so cute...oops, and there goes a poop shot...one day I will catch one of those on a pic...
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A parent has returned (looks like trey) empty beaked....the kids are patient...he's (?) just standing above them, looking around...
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Shift change, and it looks like if Trey doesn't turn himself around he's going to get blown off the young'ins. The wind seems to be picking up a bit.
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Oh here goes Trey again.Well at least in his housecleaning obsessions he's turned around so that at least now he is face the wind gusts when they happen to come around the corner. Oh wow a little one just shot some poop out from under Trey, what a shot. LOL
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The sun appears to be trying to come out there too. Oh the little ones are squirming trying to rearrange themselves to a comfy position.
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I wonder if Trey is thinking.."where is she?...and why hasn't she brought food~KAK!" ;D
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;D Trey was really getting into the rock thing...maybe he's ADHD... :)
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Chicks were left alone for awhile. Then Trey or Princess came back. He/she has their back to us. No food was brought back. Looked like the chicks were really squawking while the parents were away. I am thinking a meal might be on its way. Hope it is soon. I have to go out in about 20 min. Just love watching them.
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Trey's (?) still doing a great job...he's got the kids loosely tucked under him, his back to the cam..not too much wind right now. Still no breakfast, but they could have eaten before I opened the cam this am....if that's the case, then...Time for Brunch!!! ;D
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Thinks seem to be quite for now .Trey is just sitting there waiting not even doing any house work for a change !!! :-\ I wonder when mom will come with a little snack for everyone .
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LOL an ADHD Peregrine Falcon wouldn'ts that be a first. Yes for now things seem rather quiet. Still a wee bit of a breeze but at least he's not got his tail feathers facing the wind.
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There's been a shift change and Princess is now getting her tail feathers ruffed by the gusts of wind but has yet to change direction to prevent her being blown off the little ones. I have yet to see a feeding today though. I must have missed breakfast feeding.
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Lunch time Trey just passed off the food to Princess. And boy are those little ones hungry. Although Princess does have her back to the camera some of the feeding can be witnessed though.
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It's been 5 minutes since lunch began and Princess is still feeding the family. They all seem to be getting their fair share of lunch. Quite neat watching these little ones whose heads seems to be getting stronger, holding their beaks open waiting for Mom to shove food in. Okay at 6 mins of feeding lunch is over and waiting for one of the parents to come sit with the chicks. And they don't seem to be in a hurry to come back while the chicks stumble over each other to get comfy after that big mean. Oh here comes Dad.
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LOL Trey just found some leftover scraps to eat for himself, now he seems to be settling down to keep the brood warm even though I can still see one of the chicks butt sticking out. They are definately growing.
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It's nice to see Trey for a change. I never get to see him. I keep reading about his vigilent housecleaning, but haven't seen it for myself. btw, maybe it's OCD he's got? lol
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It's nice to see Trey for a change. I never get to see him. I keep reading about his vigilent housecleaning, but haven't seen it for myself. btw, maybe it's OCD he's got? lol
I swear I didn't drop him on his head when I banded him in 1996! ;D
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;D LOL ;D -Tracy just wondering - when you do take the chicks to band them, do you leave the nest 'as is' or does somebody do a little cleanup, ie remove the blood, bones & other assorted icky stuff that accumulates and put some new gravel maybe. ??? Or am I being a fusspot like Trey? ;D
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When we band the chicks, it will just be banding unless there is something unusual or dangerous on the ledge. There is what looks to me like a leg with a leg band on it, but I'm not sure if it isn't just the way the light shines on it. My curiosity has been killing me and if its still there when I go, I'll be snagging that for sure. Its right along the front wall, top right-hand quadrant of the image if you are looking for it. If there is something that we think might be dangerous to the chicks, I'll see if I can't take care of it while I'm there. That is where this camera is invaluable as a recovery tool, I can watch how the birds are interacting with their environment, in this case the nestledge. Whatever we do/don't do, we need to keep our time on the ledge as short as possible, but since this will be the only time we get up to the nest, we have to do whatever we need to.
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Is it the thing that right now looks like it's sticking out from under Princess's right wing?
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Is it the thing that right now looks like it's sticking out from under Princess's right wing?
No, when last I saw it, it was right against the black retaining wall, directly to the right of Princess' head at the moment.
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Hmm. What I was looking at is gone, but I can't tell what you're looking at either. All I see is pooped smeared on the wall.
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I have a question but it is not related to Princess and Trey. I hope you all do not mind me asking it here.
I was checking out the webcam in Minnesota and noticed that the egg is still there with the 3 chicks. Is it possible that the egg will still hatch? If not, then do you have any idea why one of the adult birds has not removed it.? I saw a feeding there and one of the chicks was quite aggressive he/she was actually kind of pushing on of the chicks away with his/her beak. But eventually the little guy did get up front in the middle and got food.
Now about our Precious family. I finally saw a feeding late this afternoon. I could only see the chicks off and on through the feeding but it was still great to see. I did notice how much they have grown and how they are getting much stronger. It will be so nice to watch them once Trey and Princess do not have to sit on them as much.
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Hi, Moonstar. If you check on the Home page under "Project Updates", then "other peregrine cams" and click on Minnesota - Elk River, you'll see The Peregrine Chick's thoughts on that subject. We've noticed that although the egg is still there, the mum isn't incubating it anymore. So I don't think it will hatch, and eventually the parents will remove it. That's too bad :'(, but they seem to have three healthy babies, and that's good! :)
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Good morning All,
Looks very quiet in the nest box so far this morning. I think it is a little cool out there and chicks are all covered up.
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Morning! It's 8:08amAST and its feeding time! Not sure who is dishing out breakfast this morning since all I can see is tailfeathers and half of a white fluff ball eagerly chowing down but my first guess would be that it is Princess.
Darn, feeding is over and the chicks are all tucked away. Must be camera shy today, still not facing the camera.
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Darn...I missed the feeding. I am getting ready for work and was away from the computer. Guess I will have to wait until I get home now. Last year we could view the web cam at work, but this year we can't. Not sure if we do not have the lasted version downloaded there or if the IT department did something.
Well everyone have a good day and enjoy watching P & T and the chicks. I can view the forum so I will be checking in there a few times today.
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Good morning, Falconista and Moonstar...I missed the feeding also...bummer...all's quiet now...I can't tell who is there, but he/she is napping...slight wind.
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Good morning to you too skygirl!
I think its Princess still on the chicks since I think I can see some lighter coloured feathers on her head. She's so cute with her head tucked into her wing like that. ;D Catching a little nap before the next feeding I guess!
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Finally I get to post again, was having trouble getting to the page yesterday , maybe I posted too much lol
I see the sun is shining out in Winnipeg. Not sure who is chicksitting, looks like it might be Princess shielding the little ones from the sun.
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Oh Mom just stepped aside to show us all a good view of the growing family. There she goes, and here comes dad with food ohhhhhh going to get a good view of a feeding yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Feeding with strips of raw meat going on right now. Oops Princess is back on the ledge - now she is gone, but Trey is around (he was in the picture earlier). Now it's the 3 fluff balls.
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That was a short snack. Mom has let and dad is nowhere to be see but the little ones seem to be looking about. Oh here comes dad.
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Wow. Raw meat, this early. All of a sudden Princess got up and left the babies. She came back with a larger chunk, and started tearing it to pieces and holding it up for the kids.
Princess would hold relatively small bits in her beak and the children would try to put them in their mouths. I'd imagine they got some off each chunk before mom consumed the tidbit.
It was my first time to see both birds. Now that I have seen them together, I can see the size difference. The bird on the nest is Trey, I think.
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Snack and a shift change. It isn't hot out today (it was 9C / 48F as I came into work) that ledge is nice and sunny so the chicks will need to get shaded if anything. Great day for them to get out from under their parents. Could be some good viewing up until about 1pm this afternoon when the shadow of the Hotel will shade the ledge. I'll also see if I can't save the video clip from this last feeding as Princess was feeding from the side and you could easily see all three chicks sitting up.
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skygirl, that's the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen both Trey and Princess in viewing range of the camera and yeah you can see quite a difference. Yes it's Trey on duty at the moment. LMAO one of the chicks just shot poop over towards the wall to the right.
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That was pretty good aim for a chick of 5 days of age. And projectile pooping has always been a favourite for our younger viewers! ;D
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Thankfully they won't be able to get any on the camera this year!
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Good afternoon everyone!!!!! Really hope I'm getting this posting right!!!! I enjoy reading all the posts and the updates from the nest.Was out this morning and missed feedings...just checked in and all is quite.Great viewing of the Minnesota nest yesterday...babes were left alone a bit while Mom(I think) was out on the ledge for a break...three chicks and an egg.One babe was in the corner and much as Mom tried to get him/her back to the fold..no luck..but she found the method....food...it was so cute to watch him making hs/her way back for the food. We are so lucky to have this opportunity to be this close to nature....thanks to all....really appreciated.
Hoping to catch a feeding this pm.
Take Good Care
one and all
Marie
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I have one real problem watching the falcons - relating them to their actual size. ::)
Would it be possible at some point to sneak a one foot ruler or something like that into the "edge" of the picture frame, without disturbing the birds?
I've seen the pin feather picture of T2, being held, and that was my first realization of exactly how big these guys (and gals) really are.
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Still waiting to see mom and dad at the same time. ???
I have seen each one, and the chicks, but not both parents together. :(
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hmmm what is Trey doing now, more housecleaning? The young ones sure move when the parent moves. Come on Dad sit back down. Not that he can get them all under him anymore lol
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Yep Trey is getting obsessive again about nest cleaning until the young ones start squawking, "Hey Dad aren't you forgetting something?"
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Trey is doing more housecleaning (with his wings out-stretched) leaving the little ones unshaded. The UV forecast for Winnipeg today is 8 or very high so my guess is he is trying to keep them from getting sunburn!
It must be OCD!
Grelber
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I'm surprised to see Trey so much today! I don't think I've ever seen him sit on the chicks this long (at least not at this time of day). He seems to be doing a pretty good job of shading the chicks, especially since he's so much smaller than Princess. Good work Trey! ;D
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Can anyone estimate Trey's length, head to tip of the tail? ???
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well according to the bird books I have Peregrines range from 15-21 inches so Trey would be in that range. But Tracy would be able to better answer the question :)
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Trey just left and the chicks are squirming, oh here comes lunch of course not gonna get a good view this time around. LOL One of the little ones just shot a projectile of poop before filling up on food, empty and refill. lol
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Princess just arrived with a snack, but her back is covering the action
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I have one real problem watching the falcons - relating them to their actual size. ::)
Would it be possible at some point to sneak a one foot ruler or something like that into the "edge" of the picture frame, without disturbing the birds?
I've seen the pin feather picture of T2, being held, and that was my first realization of exactly how big these guys (and gals) really are.
There really isn't, I'm afraid, or at least not one we have been able to devise that would be effective or safe. As you will have seen, this ledge is very exposed to the weather and all manner of things come loose/fly around in the wind. Since the ledge is not accessible, we can't do maintenance or repair anything from year to year. When we are banding the chicks, we have to limit our time to only what is necessary, so doing maintenance etc at that time is not an option. I have been trying to figure out if there is a way that I can get a measure on the vent cover (on the right hand edge of the image) and have that in the photo gallery as a reference. I don't know there is another one of these vents anywhere at the hotel, but I'll see if I can find out and get a photo with a measure on it.
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1pm local time - cute factor on the web cam just went up 100 points. Little pile-o-chicks asleep for a couple of minutes until Princess cam back.
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Pigeon chunk snack time again
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Yeah that was a good sized meal brought in, not gonna be one of those quick feeds either.
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Yay I got back just in time to see another feeding! Still looking at Trey's behind but at least I can see two of the chicks when he moves his head. Tracy is right, these little guys are too cute. Hard to believe how fast they grow!
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The earlier 2 hatchlings seem to be crowding out the smaller guy at the back during snack time. I hope Princess catches on.
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I was noticing that but look how cute they all are the two in front look like they are hugging the one in backawwwwww
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Awww too cute!!! They look like they're hugging each other haha. ;D It's a little pile of fluff! Hehe looks like one just yawned. Oh how I love these birds!
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Looks like the wind is picking up again. I think it's Princess keeping the kids warm even though I can see a little bit of white fluff sticking out.
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Shift change is happening and the kids are squirming to get comfy
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Neither parent is in view of the camera and the kids have been by themselves for a couple of minutes
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that's the longest I've seen the kids without a parent on them, 4 minutes. I guess that time will stretch further and further as the kids grow.
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wow Mom came in and told Trey to get lost he quickly exited at the bottom of the screen. It seemed like he didn't want to leave either.
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Thanks for the play by play letting me (and everyone) know things are going well. I'm stuck at a business conference all week with limited time to pull out the laptop and no time to watch. :(
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Glad to do it, nice to know I am helping others enjoy the Falcons as much as I enjoy watching them. I am unemployed so I have the time :)
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Thanks to everyone for the reports through the day. I can't access the falcon cam at work but I can read the falcon forum and the Peregrinations, so I don't go into complete withdrawl.
I think it is Princess sitting on the chicks now and she is facing the camera and I can see the little balls of fluff under her.
soooo cute.
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Not sure who is sitting on the brood but I can see one of the little chicks legs and foot sticking out for a second or two
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Here goes the housecleaning again, that must be Trey. And the little ones are just taking it all in stride.
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His housekeeping has taken him right off into the corner, leaving the pile of chicks behind. Both parent and chicks seem totally unfazed about the situation.
The Minnesota Elk River falcons, now a week old, are spending much more time not covered up, just hanging out in their fluff pile while mom or dad perches nearby. That will be our chicks soon!
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no I guess it's Princess, not use to seeing her houseclean.
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Looks like the chicks are left to themselves for amoment, let's see if it's shift change or feeding.
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Good view of the babies. That one on the right is trying to stand up!
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It's dinner time, I think it's Trey with his back to the camera, didn't get a look a what he brought for the kids. Oh now he's got both feet on it as he picks it apart and one chicks seem somewhat interested lol
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Looks like two of the chicks are interested, curious the 3rd isn't poking it's head up for for but then when sibling practically sitting on top makes it hard
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oh a nice view of them all sticking their heads up and getting fed.
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Oh, good -- S/he finally got out from under!
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First time seeing P&T together for me!!!
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And here comes dad, feeding on his portion, awwwwww it's a shared dinner. Oh wow now they are both feeding the chicks at the same time how awesome is that!!!!!!!!!!!
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Totally!!! That is so cool to see. ;D ;D ;D
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LOL Princess goes, here gimme that I will feed the rest to them lol
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Eagle63, that was funny, eh? Poor dad, tho.
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oooppss Mom gave the youngin a piece tooo big to handle but grabbed it back before junior could try and swallow it
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Did the one in the back/middle get any??
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that was funny , everytime something happens I have this running commentary running through my head lmao
Dinner is done and the little ones watch as Mom walks away to finish off what's left. Now they are huddling up against each other with full stomachs
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Yes I believe they all got a good shard of dinner, when Dad came in he was feeding the one in the back who was closest to him
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I'm glad you share that running commentary -- it's very accurate!! ("gimme that") lol
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Pardon the typos
The chicks are all huddled up as if they were calling a time out in a football game LOL
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Just saw the complete show. Five birds, both parents feeding. But now a problem - both parents gone - HELP!
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I doubt the parents are very far away just out of view of the camera
And that was quite the show with both parents feeding the kids at the same time
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What a treat dinner time was. We got to see the chicks being fed, not only by one parent but by both parents. I have never seen that before. You could see the difference in size between Princess and Trey. The chicks are also growing well and getting so much stronger.
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omg I love it when the little chicks do that, shoot poop from under mom and is still able to miss getting Mom all dirty. Tracy is right they are getting good aim even at a young age.
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Mom's back. Relax once again.
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Looks like only a small number of us got to see that tag-team feeding. Everyone else will be soooo jealous!!!! ;D
(No worries about the typos. I do that all the time! LOL ;))
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Now, ya see, that's the magic of this camera system. Those moments are on here for a second, but Tracy and The Accountant can recover them from the system and save them for posting later ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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But NO, Larry!!! We want to keep them for ourselves! "If you want to see it, be online!" LOL
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....and sell the dvd to the highest bidder....(insert evil laugh here.........) Gotta pay for the camera somehow ;)
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Yes, it certainly is! Well, at least we saw it live. ;D ;D
p.s. Plz tell your accountant friend I said, "thanks".
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Hey, no fair totally editing your previous comment -- now mine makes no sense!! :D
Folks, the missing comment was, "It's magic!"
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:P :P :P :P :P Don't tell them that... they're gonna think I'm a softie or something.....
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Okay, the "It's magic" comment came from Eye-spy's kid. S/he's not a softie... apparently that's important! lol
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The light is just about gone, but Princess looks peacefully tucked in for the night with her kids. I hope it's a good one. :)
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Now she looks like she's struggling to stick them under her for the night. They're definitely getting bigger! I assume it's Princess, since it's bedtime.
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Good morning everyone
It is 5:30 here and the chicks are getting breakfast. Not sure who is doing the feeding. Their back is to the camera, but I can see a chicks head bob up every once in awhile. I think feeding is over and chicks are being tucked under. It looks so windy out there. I have not checked the weather yet so I do not know what the temperature is or how strong the wind is. The feathers are really moving tho.
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9 degrees and wind from the SE at 15 kph. I thought they were still sleeping until I saw your post.
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Trey brought in some food and was there briefly. Princess is feeding the chicks chunks again. Looks like all three are getting some. It is a side feeding so ... that was over quick, now its back to sheltering from the wind.
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Looks like its a little breezy up there this morning. All the chicks are tucked safely under their mother. The wind is coming right at her behind and lifting her tail up a bit.
Shift change! Wow Princess is so much bigger than Trey! Both adults were with the chicks for about 30 seconds so it was nice to see the whole family together (even for a short time). Princess is now feeding the chicks and is finally standing off to the side giving a clear view of all three babies. Its hard to tell which chick is actually getting the food since all three mouths are so close together but Princess seems to be doing a good job of giving everyone their fair share. Short feeding and they're all tucked in again.
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Chick huddle, no parent in sight.
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Mom is back. Looking at all the trouble mom had getting the chicks under her for a mom nap I wonder how much longer the (1/3 smaller) Trey can do the same thing.
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Cam isn't working anymore :'( Just a black screen is all I see.
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I just logged in and no webcam :'( at least the forum is still working so I was able to check in on the mornings action thus far.
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I just logged in and no webcam :'( at least the forum is still working so I was able to check in on the mornings action thus far.
I can't get the camera up either. Haven't seen them since Thursday (I don't have a computer at home and I've been away from work since then) and quite anxious to see how they've grown (which I have no doubt that they have ;D )
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I've emailed Tracy (Peregrin Chick) when the camera went down and posted the problem on the technical posts list. No responses so far, and everything stays dark.
On another topic, if you are using Firefox 2 and have IE 7, switch. You get about a 3x larger picture in IE 7. This is the first time I have recommended IE 7, for anything. :P
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Haha yeah I'm a FireFox girl myself but you're right, IE is much better for this.
Hopefully the problems will be fixed soon! I have nothing to do at work now haha. :P Good thing the forum is still up and running.
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CBC Manitoba is looking into the problem, not sure what is going on but it does look like the website (and the launcher) is having trouble logging in. Will let you know as soon as I hear anything.
A Chick In the Dark
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We will be having a contest to name the chicks, but keep your ideas for the moment, we (CBC, Shaw & the Project) will be announcing the details around the time of the banding. We figure it will make it might make it easier if we know the gender of the birds. Also, this gives us all more time to observe the personality of the chicks ... for those of you here last year, you'll know what I'm talking about :D
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUZZY BABY WITHDRAWL... MUST HAVE FUZZY BABY FIX.... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Working on the date for the banding, will probably be in just over two weeks. Will post details of when and how we will be covering it!
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for those of you with fuzzy baby withdrawl, the Elk River station babies are active and just a bit ahead of the Radisson birds so they've hit the 'awkward' stage LOL :) Get your fix until the camera is up!
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Thank goodness the forum is still up and running, time to check the other Peregrine webcams lol
yep Fuzzy chick withdrawal
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yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the webcam is back up but man is it ever windy out there. No parents in view but the chicks are all huddled up
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And it looks like it might be Princess who has returned for duty to cover the chicks but I think she's going to have a really hard time the way the wind is blowing, it almost just blew her tail feathers over beak. She just got settled down but her tail is facing right into wind
Omg the wind just blew her off the chicks and has one chick sitting by itself while mum went and situated herself on the two.
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whew the stranded one seems to have gone underneath Princess' tail feathers
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That's the first tail over tea kettle I have seen, although I have I have read about them. :P
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oh finally,,, that poor chick,,, was still stranded.... oh my Princess having a heck of a time. my this is scary............
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Nope number 3 seems to be beside mom, oh good now mum is tucking number 3 under her but everytime she does exposes her tail feathers to the wind so now she is still trying to get them all tucked underneather, there I think she has accomplished it with the wind hitting her on the side of her wing.
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All happy and comfy now.
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Your right, very scary, when she went over feathers over kettle and the 3rd chick got stranded that was scarrrrrrrrry because it was in line of her legs and that's how it got stranded. But they seem to be getting their feet about them such that it was able to manaurver up beside Princess until she then tucked them all back under her.
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thank goodness! she has them all gathered in. Now stay like that. Glad its her and not Trey.. He way to small to handle this wind and the chicks.
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oh no Princess has turned again and will surely go tail feathers over kettle, she's still adjusting.
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deedream, I was just thinking the very same thing.
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Until she got her tail feathers against the wall, a phrase ran through my geek head.
Houston, we are ready for launch.
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lmao sky pilot, well she almost launched again when she was turning her body around. It's gonna be along taxing day for her and us!
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Okay, I should resist but when she turned around, "Houston we almost had liftoff."
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ACK!! - wind is supposed to get up to 50K later - :o :o - it's going to be a rough day!! - keep up the posting for us poor folks who have no webcam at work!! :(
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Wow you guys are right, the wind sure is picking up out there. That tail just keeps blowing up and I hold my breath hoping there are no more acrobatic flips. Its days like this when I wish they had chosen to lay their eggs in the nest box they used last year. Much better protection from the elements. Ah well, live and learn.
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If we are very lucky, the wind might diminish when/if we get rain. Its the only positive thought I can think of right now ...
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Okay Ballywing will do our best. Just not sure if my heart can stand it if the wind gets that high geeeeeeesssssshhhhhhhh
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Okay, some conflicting wind numbers - forecast for today is 30 km/h, gusting to 50 km/h. Oddly, the conditions at The Forks (a few blocks away from the Hotel) show a wind speed of 9 km/h, and that sure as heck ain't 9 km/h blowing Princess and the kids right now. At the Airport the wind is currently reported to be 28 km/h but it doesn't show what the gusts are, but I imagine we are probably pretty close right now. The birds have weathered 20-30 km/h winds before this year, so I think we may be seeing the worst right now. Once the winds pick up, the adults do tend to get better at staying tucked down. And the chicks will be okay for short periods of time out from under their parents if it happens. And they are partially mobile so they can help to get themselves back under when/if it happens. The adults will want them all under, so no one should be left stranded for long - it will just seem that way to us.
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The camera was shaking pretty bad there for a while. Seems to have stopped for the time being. Princess is still stuck to those chicks like glue. She is facing the cam right now so I can see a little bit of fluff peeking out. Ah darn she moved so now she's facing the wall again. I wonder if she notices a difference in the wind depending which way she faces. Gosh her feathers are just flapping away. Camera is shaking wildly again. Hang on Princess!
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Watching today gives a whole new meaning to Elvis' song All Shook Up
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Oh here comes a good sized meal and right now it's back to the camera obstructing the view a bit.
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Three little heads getting stronger at holding up with beak open ready for food. As Trey picks apart the meal you can see some feathers flying in the wind. They all are getting a share of the meal :) Dad sure is a good provider for his growing family. LOL two of the siblings are showing signs of sibling rivilary already.
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Funnily enough, rivalry isn't something that occurs with the peregrines and the competition at mealtimes is usually pretty fair/equal. Keep in mind how many times a day they get fed and that they are really still quite small at this stage. Actually, try to watch for their crops after meals. It will look like a large balloon in/on their necks. If they are very stuffed (not hard to do at this stage), it will bulge out like a pink balloon!
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ooopss it was Mum feeding the kids, she's got the kids tucked under her again and her body is facing the wall to the left and the wind is blowing against the length of her body at this point.
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Ooooo, very cool. Princess just ate the tail end of the meal - bones, feathers, whatever so that she wouldn't have to leave the nest. Just yumped it down (there was some head-bobbing to help it go down) then moved over the chicks. And there is nary a trace of the meal left on the gravel! That will be a heck of a pellet when she finally yaks it up! :o
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Just watched the chicks having lunch....it's 2:30 here on the island.
Wow they are growing so fast...haven't really seen them in a few days.
Pincess & Trey are very very good parents........very attentive and protective.
Hope the wind calms down soon!!!!!
Cheers
Marie
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Yeah I saw that Tracy, Princess finishing off what was left of lunch. She was certainly doing some head bobbing that's for sure. She sure is low to the nest as she can get and face in the gravel too. She's very dedicated to these chicks.
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Since Trey will have trouble keeping the chicks covered (they are getting too big now), she will probably be doing most of the brooding, particularly if the weather turns rainy as it is forecasted to over the 24 hours. Trey will probably either feed the chicks when the time comes or he'll be hunting for the whole family and dropping off food for Princess to feed the chicks and some for Princess herself. It will be interesting to see how necessity changes their routine ...
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My oh my when that camera gets shaken by the wind I get dizzy trying to watch Princess and the kids. For now at least the sun is shining. If you all get the rain they are forecasting it's going to make for an unpleasant time for the family.
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oh lord Princess had her tail to the wall to the left and the wind still almost knocked her off the chicks. It's a wonder she doesn't lose her feathers with all this wind. She's turning again and will no doubt shift again with a good gust of wind because she has her tail feathers almost directly into the direction the wind is blowing
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One of the problems the birds are having to contend with (in addition to the wind of course!) is that the wind in downtown Winnipeg gets spun about in the canyons formed by the buildings. If the birds were in the nestbox, it would be windy, but not from every direction. In fact, we made the new box deeper, so Princess could have been entirely or almost entirely protected from the wind while brooding. Sometimes it just makes me want to scream!!!
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Yeah I bet Tracy, can't exactly speak in logical terms to a Peregrine Falcon who has other ideas. I never thought about the circular motion of the wind hitting her from all sides. She's going to be doing a lot of preening when she has a chance to herself.
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Is anyone else getting dizzy from the wind shaken camera?
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Okay, its 1314 hrs and Princess is doing a bit of preening while the camera is being shaken all to bits. Looks like she has found the spot/direction/height that seems to work in the wind!
She's finished preening now and has her head and tail as close to the gravel as you are going to get them. She's also moved up the ledge (up in terms of image on the webcam) so that she is closer in the corner, will certainly help her keep from getting blown off the chicks. Still some feather fluffing going on, but not as bad as earlier. I think she may just have found her "spot". Now if the kids will just sleep through much of the next 24 hours, it will make a tough job tolerable for her!
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Somebody needs to give Princess & Trey a good 'talking to' re learning their lesson and making better choices next year!! ;D ;D ......As we can't take all this fretting! ::)
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I agree Ballywing, I can't bear watching the wind gusts hitting Princess and wonder if she's going to go toppling over.
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Wow even on a windy day like today the little ones still have good aim with shooting poop away from under Mum and hitting the wall in line of fire.
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Princess seems to be getting a bit of a reprieve from the wind gusts, Tracy was quite observant about Princess positioning herself to the corner and angled just so that the wind isn't hitting her so badly.
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Hi everyone
sorry , I have been off cam for awhile.
After it being down for a day ,I took a break.
It looks like everything is going well except for the winds
I remember those downtown winds well.
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Is that Trey in the nest now??? Still not sure if I can ell the difference!!!!
Hope someone is viewing now.
Marie
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It's Princess brooding, Trey wouldn't have been able to stay on the nest with these winds.
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Princess ,bless her heart, is trying to build a mound around them with the pebbles
You can tell princess when she is looking at you becasue you can see some white just above the cere or beak
trey does not have this bit of white.
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It's been a while since I've since Princess do that much maintenance to the nest. She's off the little ones but still in view of the camera. The Little ones are all huddled together but seem to be reacting to the wind or their missing heat source. There Princess has gone back to brooding, nope still fussing about the nest. Now she seems to be settling down to brooding on the chicks and the wind seems to be gusting again by the amount of camera shake.
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She certainly is busy fussing with the pebbles in the next right now. The chicks are exposed, but the wind isn't ruffling them too much, as they are much closer to the surface of the ledge.
Ah, now she's setting back down on them again after some house-cleaning.
It looked almost as if she was using nest pebbles to build a wind-break around the chicks, but I'm sure that is my human brain talking . . . is that far-fetched in terms of falcon behaviour?
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Thank you......I'll have to go back to the photo gallery and study some more!!!!!
Cheers
Marie
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Princess ,bless her heart, is trying to build a mound around them with the pebbles
The ledge doesn't have very many pebbles, most of them are in the corner the birds are using in fact, other parts of the ledge are practically bare. If there were more pebbles, she would have made a hollow in the substrate for her nest scrape. Because there aren't enough, she's laid the eggs pretty much on the actual roof material and she's pulling the pebbles around to make a bowl or hollow. Because every time they move they screw up the "walls" of the hollow, I think that is why Trey has been so frantic about fixing the ledge every time he's there with the kids!
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We all were probably thinking in human terms when we saw her shoring up the pebbles there.
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Not so far fetched. Just watch how the eagles start rooting in the nest and bring in more materials to make nest deeper and build it up higher as their eaglets get bigger
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So she is trying to make a hollow in the nest! Fascinating! Thanks, Tracy.
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Awwww too cute , that little one literally backed out from under Princess and did his bathroom duties promptly getting back under Mum when all done.
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well after all that digging and scraping, Princess has decided to flew the coop. Chicks are so adorable. Hopefully Trey is near by with supper.
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theres Daddy. well where is supper. Did Mom have to go get it? lol. I think he is just supervising until she gets back.
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okay, Trey took off after giving the chicks the onceover. They are huddled together, looks very windy still. Ha ha, too funny, Trey just came back with supper, and Princess jumped in from the side, and literally snatched the food out of Treys mouth, he took off, fast, lol, now Mom is feeding her babs supper and boy are they hungry.
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Ah there's Trey , oh he's gone. Still a bit a windy. Here's the meal. Mum brought food.
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Mom did not bring food. Poor Trey went to get it and as soon as he came in from the left corner, Princess comes in from the right corner and snatches it from him..Trey takes off and Princess is feeding the wee ones.
I guess we know who wears the pants in that family :) :)
I took some pictures
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I meant mom got the food from dad. It is comical watching Princess boss Trey around. Getting a good view of the feeding.
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Princess having a heck of a time with supper. The wind is blowing her and the food all around. Camera is shaking around hard to see at times. Oh my she almost got blew off. Princess just scarfed down some more feathers and body parts, must be like The Peregrine Chick said she did earlier. Chick look hungry, but boy the wind i think is knocking them down too. Princess seems to be hurrying, Imagine because they have been exposed for almost 10minutes now. Looks like one bite for a chick one bite for Mom. I think she is doing lilke Tracy says, and eating the wings, head, legs, the crappy parts, and giving the main body to the chicks. yes it looks like that is what she is doing. One little guys crop appears to be quite full, yup he looks lke he is about to pass out, lol, oh too funny, looks like the other ones are holdin him up now. Hope the little one in back gets a bite.
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Princess left what looks like a wing or tail feathers. Guess theu are all full.
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supper is over. That didn't takes too long. Just a feather or two laying there. Princess back on her brood. Hey guys wasn't that just hilareous watching Princess grab that from Trey, and he high tailed it out ? Poor Trey. But looks like Mom knows how to get things done in a short fashion with no nonsense. Funny watching the chicks get stuffed and tetter and almost pass out! That was very entertaining I must say. Haven't been here as much lately, mostly read your guys updates (thanks eagle63 for your dedication), when I get the chance ,so was nice to be part of it for a few minutes.
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Priceless to see Princess try and get them all underneath.
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Deedream, eddication would be one word I call it hopelessly hooked on fluffy babies because I could be doing other things lol.
Yeah it's really fascinating watching the interaction between Princess and Trey. He seems to wanting help ...oh look he's back with more food!!!! He just fed Princess a loving bite and was off LMAO wonder was that an apoligetic bite for getting in the way lmao
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oh man sorry for all those typos in the last post.
Trey does seem to want to help as much as he can but it sure does seem like Princess scoots him out of there lol
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jeeze gone for 10 minutes and I missed that little loving exchange. lol. That was kinda different wasn't it, for him to come and give her a bite? I thought maybe when she was gone at first for those few minutes that she was having her supper, hard to say. As Tracy says, they sit nearby out of camera view, maybe hes just realizing she can't leave cause of the wind. IMAO yes there lots else a person can be doing, but it gets addicting watching ,,
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Two of the chicks have worked themselves around that now you can see there heads laying out from under Princess. Everyone is catnapping.
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Princess is doing some nest maintence, now she's back fully on the chick, now more nest maintence.
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She just stepped away from the chicks to do more maintence but she half hidden by the vent. The chicks are huddling into one big mass of fluff. Now they are rearranging themselves as Princess keeps at the maintence or looking for leftover snacks maybe. Now she's gone back to brood over the chicks.
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Looks like Princess is taking the opportunity to do some preening now that the wind gusts seem to be further and further apart. Of course soon as I typed that the camera started shaking lol
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Oh my goodness gracious...ya miss a day and there are six pages to read...watching the cam....and that is some wind...I can't believe she is preening in that...boy...what good balance...the cam is really shaking right now...ah...a little calmer...nope....spoke too soon..oops...and a little beak dive...now for a confession..I noticed the top of her head is kinda cut off...to remedy this..I enlarged Media Player...DUH ;D I cannot tell ya how many times I have done that...thinking I could "see" above/below/right/left...LOL
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Wind is suppose to diminish to "light" tonight, but there is still a 60% chance of rain and then tomorrow we are suppose to have showers which are to end in the evening. Looks like another damp night for Princess! Fortunately, the chicks are not so large that she can't keep them dry when she needs to. They are still vulnerable to getting wet & cold at this stage and that could be fatal. Given all the crap she ha put up with so far, I don't imagine a little more rain is going to do anything but annoy her.
Hope Trey brings back extra special take-out!
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Lots of stretching going on - not too surprising when you consider how many hours she has been crouching over the chicks. She's doing some toe grooming right now, considering that the chicks have been sleeping on them all day, I'd want a pedicure too!
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Princess is off the chicks and preening her leg feathers, no wonder after all the wind has done to her feathers all over her body.
Yeah Tracy let's hope Trey brings back something special.
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Looks like the wind is picking up a bit again, the camera is shaking and Princess' feathers are getting rather ruffled.
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Mom stepped away from the chicks when I had stepped away from the computer. The chicks are huddled on top of each other, Here comes dad( I think ) with supper.
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That feeding appears to be done. The chicks are full and leaning on each other so they don't totally topple over.
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I thought Mom was going to feed them more, she just came up to the chicks with something in her beak, but she turned away and must have gone to the edge of the ledge
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Group hug amongst the chicks,oh mom's back trying to tuck them all underneath her.
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Just saw a feeding Looks like they got a lot. They were alone for awhile and then one of the parents came in with more food but looks like they didn't eat because he or she flew away. I wish I could tell them apart. I think this is Princess now trying to stuff them under her. It looks like the speckles go up her chest. There they are snuggled in but moving a lot. She is having a hard time getting them under her, but it looks like they are comfy now. Camera is shaking pretty good now. It is also not very warm out there. I don't know when Winnipeg is going to get summer this year.
Thanks to everyone for the play by play of what is going on in the nest ledge. It is great to read while at work.
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wow more food, Trey has been busy. Mum just left the chicks to go get the food. Not sure what it is, all that's left is the body. But at least getting a good view of the chicks being fed.
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FOOD'S UP ! again..
Hard to believe that just one week ago we were ALL losing sleep over whether or not those darn eggs were ever going to hatch, and here we are, one week later.. with three healthy, rapidly growing chicks!
Just like teenagers.. they eat CONSTANTLY !
Hopefully next year the birds will choose to go back to the nest box condo instead of hanging out on the ledge..
Yum.... looks like they are really enjoying that food !.
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LOL yeah teenagers ya can never fill em up and it's so cute watching these 3 all lined up waiting to grab onto the food.
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That looks like dad, he just picked up a bone or something. The feeding just finished and Dad hopped over. The chicks look so full they can barely hold themselves up.
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ooppss Dad is feeding them a bit more of whatever it was left over.
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Oh boy Trey is going to try some brooding but doubt he will get all 3 tucked under him.
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Oh dear a gust of wind just blew trey off the chicks but h got right back up and has gone over to hover over the chicks. He can only get two totally under him and the 3 is half under.
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I am second guessing myself,maybe it's Princess on brood duty. I still have trouble telling them apart when it's just one in view of the camera. But whoever it is they've finally got all the chicks underneath.
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oh my goodness did the parent just got blown off the chicks again or did they jump on the ledge, I just took my eye off for a few seconds and the parent was gone?
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well I am off for the night, probably have driven everyone crazy with all my posts. Night Princess, Trey and kids.
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Never, Eagle63! Glad to have your comments. If I'm not watching (and I wasn't tonight), I at least know what was going on when I come back on. :) :)
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I guess that storm we're expecting is moving in. Sure is windy on the camera! Poor Princess, she has a tough night ahead of her. And I guess part of tomorrow won't be any better.
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It's raining downtown now, but at least the wind isn't bad.
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Summer must actually be coming -- it amazes me that at 10 pm I can still see a pic!
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I know we tend to humanize them, but I really wonder if Princess is thinking 'I'm never coming back to this nesting spot again!!!' :o- I guess we'll have to wait til next year to see if they remember all this hardship, and go back to the luxury condo near the roof! ;D ;D - I sure hope so! :-\
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hmm... maybe I should rethink that wind comment. The camera is sure shaking!
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I sure hope so too!
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HHHHHHOOOOOORRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN !!
Fog this morning? Can't see a thing... so not much of an observation.
:'( Hope this morning finds everyone well, both feathered or otherwise. It's Wednesday !.. we're half way there.
Oh, and our wee ones are being banded this morning here in Mississauga. If they post any pictures or video I'll post them here later... however, they are not nearly as diligent as Tracy in posting updates and pictures, so we may have to wait.
Happy Hump Day everyone.
Lori. ;D
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I look out the window here and there is no fog and yet you can't see anything on the camera. It is a bleak dreary morning out there tho. I guess the fog is downtown. Hope I get to see the little ones before I go to work. I look forward to reading everyone's updates thru the day.
It is 9 degrees with a SE 19KM wind gusting to 30KM. So I imagine Princess has the chicks covered very well. It is not raining right now, not in the south end of the city anyhow.
Have a great day everyone.
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Looks like the fog has cleared up a bit but it still seems pretty windy right now. Not as bad as yesterday but I can see feathers blowing around. Looks like being up in that corner is working well for them. Princess has the little ones tucked under quite well although before she shifted around I could see three little tails sticking out from under her head.
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Well looks like Mom and chicks survived another wild night in Winnipeg. She is hunkered down with chicks all under her, head facing camera, keeping her head low to the ground most of the time. Either sleeping or trying to keep chicks shielded from the wind and weather. Probably a bit of both. Tracy mentioned yesterday they can't thermoregulate there body temp, until around 10 days, so we are not out of the woods yet. Certainly if something happens we can't say it is lack of due diligence on Princess or Treys part. Be ole Mother Natures fault. Fingers crossed that her almost constant brooding and care will continute to provide the necessary warmth(considering the temps lately) for them to thrive. :) :) :)
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Good morning all...still hunckered down on the kids...I did see her kakking earlier..and I thought breakfast was being delivered..but no...guess she was just talking...doesn't look too windy right now...
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Good Morning
Just checked in on the family and all are resting.Looks a littel calmer today....hopefully they will have a better day today.....enough wind already!!!!!
Cheers
Marie
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The camera is still shaking a bit but at least Princess looks like she's got a good position on the ledge right now. Can't really see much of the little ones. Guess I'll have to wait until they get their breakfast before I'm able to sneak a peek.
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Speaking of breakfast... it's just arrived!
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Darn, Princess has her back to the camera so its hard to see the babies. I hope that little guy in the back gets in there and makes sure he gets his fair share!
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Darn, Princess has her back to the camera so its hard to see the babies. I hope that little guy in the back gets in there and makes sure he gets his fair share!
I just saw him get a bite...
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Yes looks like Trey dropped off breakfast, just out of camera view, Princess walked over to the corner on the right and retrieved it. It looked like it was already skinned, Now the chicks are getting fed, my they act hungry, Princess eating the crappy parts herself, and giving the good stuff to her chicks. Not so much wind right now. Getting a little peek at chicks but Princess does have her tail towards the corner kinda sideways view so only seeing one chick clearly and every now and then a peek at the other ones. :) :)
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Darn, Princess has her back to the camera so its hard to see the babies. I hope that little guy in the back gets in there and makes sure he gets his fair share!
I just saw him get a bite...
Ok good as long as he got something!
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I got only a quick look at the latest entree - was that a little duckling? Oh, well...
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I have no idea what it was, I didn't get a good look.
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Hi all,
Though I do not post frequently, I've watch the peregrines nearly everyday for the last two years (the joy of being a self-employed computer person).
One thing that I have noted is that Princess and Trey do not favour one chick over another - it's all about survival. At feeding time you can rest assured that everyone will receive a portion of the meal. If one chick seems to get less at one meal they are typically topped up at the next.
The easiest way to ascertain "fairness" is to look at the chicks' growth. They are proportional to one another. There are, and will be, some variations due to birth order and whether they are male or female, but Trey and Princess are diligent in attending to their whole brood.
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Feeding time, looks like a big chunk of pigeon.
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Aww darn I missed another feeding! Work is always getting in the way of my falcon watching haha.
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Didn't see what they ate just now, but the last feeding, what I saw was something kinda pinkish colored, thats why I said "all skinned", yewww maybe it was a little duckling. I don't like to think about that. :-\ You have to try to not think about it.
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Trey's trying to brood now, but the chicks are nearly as big as he is and he's not having much luck. He's very cute though.
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"" it looked like it was already skinned "" :-X
gee.. I WAS enjoying my yogurt.. lol
thanks for the updates. ;D
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Are you sure its Trey? Looks too big to be him.
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"" it looked like it was already skinned "" :-X
gee.. I WAS enjoying my yogurt.. lol
thanks for the updates. ;D
Haha yeah not the nicest thought. But a bird's gotta eat!
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Are you sure its Trey? Looks too big to be him.
I really did think so, I've gotten pretty good at telling them apart, but now the parent's back is turned, I'm not so sure. I usually can pick out the lighter coloured crown feathers of Princess, but with the wind ruffling all the bird's feathers, it's hard to tell.
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Pretty sure that is Trey on there, I seen him come in awhile ago, but havent kept my eyes glued. Hey guys, I prefered to think that Trey had prepared breakfast already (plucked) than what someone else suggested that maybe it was a duckling. ACK! Sorry for ruining your "breakfast".. :P You say you want a description and then............. lol.... oh dear. ;D ;D Just kidding around!
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Whoever it is on there has feathers sticking out of there mouth. ;D
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Whoever it is on there has feathers sticking out of there mouth. ;D
** gently sets the yogurt container down and pushes away the banana **
;D
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okay I'll play nice. :D I'll be gone most of the day, so no worries, hopefully eagle63 will be back on to give you the "nice" updates. 8)
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Haha thats too funny about the feathers sticking out. Must have a full crop this morning.
Hmm maybe it is Trey after all. I thought I was good at telling them apart too but I guess I need more practice! But you're right, its harder to tell when they're not facing the camera.
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NO worries.. I get a kick out of the 'descriptive' narrative.. lol.. seen worse,, and probably eatten worse myself...yum ! ;)
Happy for the updates.
I cannot view the web cam at work, so, like to see what 'our' babies are up to.
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Yeah If its Trey and I really "think" it is, seems so small, then should be a shift change pretty soon, Princess doesn't seem to leave him with the chicks for long. Still has those darn feathers blowing around in the breeze, especially the ones protruding from his beak, gotta be him, hes had more chance to eat and have a full crop than Princess. Oh he perking up and looking around, bet Momma is near.
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Thank god eagle63 is here! Yay! :) :) :) I have to get going and I didn't want Loriann to miss a thing. ;D
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lol wow haven't received a reception like that before, thank-you deedrream. Are you all purposely sending rainy weather to my neck of the woods so I can't get out to play with the camera. Hence the reason why I've been able to watch the webcam so much the last couple fo days. Yeah I see it's still a bit windy out there but certainly nothing to what it was like yesterday. Can't get a good look to see who is doing the brooding but given the size of the chicks compared to the parent I am guessing it's Trey.
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Yup now that he's facing the cam you can definitely tell its Trey. He can barely sit down with all the movement going on underneath him, haha they're squirming around a lot.
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Falconista is quoting lines from "Finding Nemo" lmao Yep looks like Trey after some nest maintence he's facing the webcam. Is it possible that the chicks have grown that much in 12 hours or so they look so much bigger then when I last viewed the webcam. Oh boy Trey is trying to make him self look like a tent over the chicks.
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Fogs all gone so going to tweak the title of this topic!! Hold onto your posts everyone ;D
The Chick
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Hey there you are. Oh that is Trey, I can see his head now finally after he turned around. Plus he has started doing some housecleaning. He looks so funny, kinda puffed up like, has to I suppose to get them underneath him. Too funny over on the Minnisota cam, eagle63, one chick just waddled over to a corner and Mom is trying to get him back, not having much luck.
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That little one in front of Trey seems to be saying, "Um Dad don't move so I can at least keep my head underneath you."
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Falconista is quoting lines from "Finding Nemo" lmao Yep looks like Trey after some nest maintence he's facing the webcam.
Lol what did I say?
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Bird's gotta eat, that what Nigel said to Dory and the father, "Birds gotta eat, fish gotta swim."
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Too funny over on the Minnisota cam, eagle63, one chick just waddled over to a corner and Mom is trying to get him back, not having much luck.
Haha yeah she seems to have given up and left him over there for now. She keeps giving him the eye as if to say "I'll deal with you later" haha.
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Minnisota Mom is dealing with the wayward child now
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Bird's gotta eat, that what Nigel said to Dory and the father, "Birds gotta eat, fish gotta swim."
Haha ohhh right I remember that part. Good thinking!
Cuteness on the cam. The little chick snuggled up under Trey's head looks so peaceful and content. Must have a full tummy.
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oh this is so sad, I'm watching two webcams and haven't even had my own breakfast yet Lmao
Minnisota kid still tucked in the corner. Oh nice view of Mom getting up and leaving. Here's dad with food
And Trey is still diligently brooding our crew.
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lmao the smell of food has the wayward kid in minnisota back to the chick huddle too funny watching him work his way back
Tracy how long will it be before our youngins start getting mobile and moving around?
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All three Minnesota chicks are back together and getting fed so no need to worry!
Trey still seems to have some feathers sticking out of his mouth. ;D ;D So funny.
That chick in front is trying his best to wiggle his way back under his dad. I can just see a white behind sticking out from under Trey's head!
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Peregrine chicks at this age have two speeds: naptime and "want food".
A little later it becomes: naptime, "want food" and "move over".
At fledging its: naptime, "want food", "move over" and "where'd you go?!".
Post-fledging its: "want food" and "wait for me"
At migration: "hasta la vista baby" and "I'll take that to go"
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lmao Tracy I love your descriptions, I was wondering about the move over phase lol and you just answered it
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lmao the smell of food has the wayward kid in minnisota back to the chick huddle too funny watching him work his way back
Tracy how long will it be before our youngins start getting mobile and moving around?
If the weather were more cooperataive (ie warmer and dry) then the chicks would probably be more on their own right now (parents sitting beside) but still sleeping alot. With the cooler/wetter weather, they know they all know where the chicks need to be. Most of the time when you see Trey move right now, its because the chicks are fussing under him and he's moving out of their way. Keep in mind that he isn't actually sitting on them, he's crounched over them - he's using his feet and wings for support. Sot the kids are much more mobile than they were on the weekend when all they did was eat and nap.
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lmao Tracy I love your descriptions, I was wondering about the move over phase lol and you just answered it
*blush*
You are very welcome - great minds and all that ;D
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I think the "move over" phase might be starting sooner than we think if the way that they are wiggling under Trey is any indication! ;D
I can just hear Trey now... "Don't make me come under there!"
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Yeah they certainly do seem more mobile and certainly more squirmy. LOL Falconista, my father used to say that, don't make me come over there
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Yeah and the kids are saying, "Can you move your foot it's in my face." "I'm trying but junior is in my way. mmmmmffffff" "Everyone move now because I have to go to the bathroom!"
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Yeah they certainly do seem more mobile and certainly more squirmy. LOL Falconista, my father used to say that, don't make me come over there
Haha yeah if I ever have kids of my own that will be my one liner for sure!
The chicks are quite the little shovers under there. I'm sure one of them has their sibling's foot or wing in their face.
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Tracy, what is the significance of Trey shaking his head as if it's vibrating, is it because he's cold? Or is he getting a headache from the squirming kids lol
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Yep they are definately moving enough to say, "move over will ya"
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hmmmm Trey is moving, could brunch be on it's way, there he goes out from view of the camera
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Looks like snack time!
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Yep here comes the food, of course back to camera and can't see the feeding as clearly but can certainly see the little ones moving about.
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oh, shift change, there goes Trey in towards the camera and gone, feeding time, think its Princess just came in from the same way Trey existed. Nice view of her Back!
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k I said I had to go 2 hours ago. lol. Gone for awhile. :(
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Maybe we should have put the camera on the other side of the ledge haha. We always seem to get their backs during feeding time.
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Tracy, what is the significance of Trey shaking his head as if it's vibrating, is it because he's cold? Or is he getting a headache from the squirming kids lol
He does that alot, not sure why. The Elk River female does it too if you watch her. Might be just settling feathers, or knocking off rain or flies, but he does it rain, shine, sunny, cold. Could just be a stress reaction - raising chicks is a stressful time (peregrine physically stressful, not human psychologically stressful) for the birds, brooding, feeding, hunting, defending, could be his version of hives.
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okay ya need to get that bone from junior it's having trouble swallowing it.
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It's defiantely been a longer feed but I see the two in the back need bibs they've got food all over themselves.
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All told that feeding was 10 minutes. Now it's time to brood and let the kids have nap.
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Happy birthday to the week old chicks. Hard to believe it's been a week since they hatched.
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It was Trey doing the feeding and now the brooding - too small for Princess. Probably Princess dropped the meal off as he wasn't gone long. Without the rain and wind, she is probably quite happy to let him do "his" thing. She's probably across the street on the Sterling Building or on the Radisson sign above getting some well deserved naptime or preening up a storm before going out to "food shopping" for the kids.
As for a camera on the other side of the nestledge, not going to happen ... to see why, check out the
Peregrine Chick Blog entry for May 15th (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/peregrinations/2008/05/were-alive.html). Only one place to put it, and that's it. Besides, anywhere else and the sun would shine directly on the lens and there would be no seeing anything for a few hours every morning ... can't see y'all wanting that! ;D
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It's defiantely been a longer feed but I see the two in the back need bibs they've got food all over themselves.
Those "bibs" are probably their stuffed and bulging crops rather than food ...
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As for a camera on the other side of the nestledge, not going to happen... Only one place to put it, and that's it. Besides, anywhere else and the sun would shine directly on the lens and there would be no seeing anything for a few hours every morning ... can't see y'all wanting that! ;D
Yes I didn't really think there would be another cam put up or anything, it would just be nice to have a better view of the little ones during feeding time!
Wow can't believe its been only a week since they were born. They have grown so much so quickly (as I'm sure Trey can vouch for as he struggles again to get them all shoved under him).
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Trey just did a bit of nest maintence and is now facing the camera. The little ones are scrambling to get underneath him :)
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hehehehe another webcam to check out , wow what a difference in size of their offspring.
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All is quiet with our crew, everyone is sleeping.
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The little ones are getting squirmy again, "move over you foot is in my face again" and Trey is going, settle down you 3
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omg will you kids settle down, "waaaaahhhh Dad junior pushed me, make him move over so I can get underneath your strong chest"
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Hahaha those crazy little guys just can't sit still. Poor dad is having a workout today!
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eagle63 you have totally taken over today's forum lol. Good work, keep those posts coming ;D
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this a question about the columbus banding.I do not know where to put it.
I thought they are to leave someone on the ledge to assure that the parents come back
Not happy about this.
Both parents came to the ledge and then one took off. the better be quick
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The parents won't go anywhere with the chicks gone. They will stay around the building for a week or the rest of the season even if the chicks aren't there - its their territory. The 20-30 minutes the chicks are gone won't make any difference.
For all other posts on the Columbus birds go to - Other Peregrine Webcams .
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I don't want people thinking I am taking over the forum, I just know from the previous posts that alot of people work and I don't so I have the time to keep people up to speed as to happenings on the nest. If people feel I am posting to often or too much altogether, just tell me and I will slow it down.
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Our crew are getting a meal. Not sure who is feeding them. The chicks are lining up for food.
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I don't want people thinking I am taking over the forum, I just know from the previous posts that alot of people work and I don't so I have the time to keep people up to speed as to happenings on the nest. If people feel I am posting to often or too much altogether, just tell me and I will slow it down.
Haha I was just teasing, post as often as you like. I'm sure the others really appreciate it.
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My cat is thoroughly entranced, LOL
She's up on my desk, lying in front of the monitor watching Princess feed the chicks.
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That meal was a good size bird, not sure of species but it was almost as big as the chicks if not bigger.
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NO.. keep posting.. for those of us who are not 'allowed' web cam access by our 'uptight' IT departments, the running commentary is wonderful, and saves us abandoning our families for hours when we do get home checking up on all the updates. ;)
Keep posting !.. this forum has wonderful people on it, no snide comments, no nasty issues.. and its refreshing to have so many people so concerned and involved in the lives of these birds.
As I mentioned this morning in my first post ( when it was still foggy, Tracy.. lol ).. our babies are being banded this morning here in Mississauga, and i'll post pictures if they ever get around to posting them. Our web-cam has not been active ( talk about withdrawl ) but fortunately I live close enough to actually be able to see the birds once in a while.
Last time i checked in with our kids here.. we had four babies.. so.. will keep checking to see if they've posted any information.
Again.. Hats off to Tracy and all who help her to keep us informed and up to date.. the amount of work must be enormous, and I just want her to know we do appreciate all of it. The Mississauga Falcon web site could take a few lessons from her.
L.
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You're right that bird was huge. Maybe we're just not used to seeing the whole bird being brought back or maybe it was a different kind of bird?
Looks like dad is back on duty now.
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He's got his back to the camera again.
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Yep there has been a shift change
Thank goodness for high speed internet so I can watch both our crew and the banding in Ohio. Wow are they loud, I had to turn down my hearing aids lol
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As I mentioned this morning in my first post ( when it was still foggy, Tracy.. lol ).. our babies are being banded this morning here in Mississauga, and i'll post pictures if they ever get around to posting them. Our web-cam has not been active ( talk about withdrawl ) but fortunately I live close enough to actually be able to see the birds once in a while.
Last time i checked in with our kids here.. we had four babies.. so.. will keep checking to see if they've posted any information.
Again.. Hats off to Tracy and all who help her to keep us informed and up to date.. the amount of work must be enormous, and I just want her to know we do appreciate all of it. The Mississauga Falcon web site could take a few lessons from her.
If we don't already have a thread going for the Mississauga birds, I will set one up in the Other Peregrine Cams section and you can include your links there for the photos. Webcams aren't cheap to run but there are other ways of keeping folks in the loop, photos, blogs, forums so maybe all Miss needs is some more volunteers ;D
And thanks LoriAn, appreciate the kudos, I'll be sure to pass along to Larry, the folks at CBC, Shaw and the Radisson.
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The wind has suddenly picked up, mum came back and Trey, who was having all kinds of problems trying to get the chicks tucked under has left.
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From the back and based on size, looks like Princess. Sorry :-[
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I have three cams going at the same time, the Radisson birds, the Ohio banding, and the Minnesota birds. Needless to say I'm not getting much work done today. But its worth it, being able to see these birds is amazing. Anyone who isn't watching the Ohio banding should tune in!
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I know there is the urge to post here because it is where most folks are viewing HOWEVER, everytime you do, you add more posts that folks have to read through later to get to the stuff about the Radisson Chicks.
If you have general comments post in the Peregrine Room.
If you have specific comments about another cam, post under that cam in the Other Peregrine Cams.
I will be moving/removing posts that are not applicable from this point on ... 8)
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Something just had our resident parent's attention, I think it's Princess brooding the little ones now.
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Another feeding is happening, it appears to be Trey with his back to the camera but 3 little heads can be seen from time to time vying for their share of food.
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Princess finally turned to face the camera. For the past while her head was out of camera range and her back was to the camera and I couldn't tell if it was her for sure. She just got off the chicks and went for a bit of a stroll to the area on the other side of the vent. It looked like she was picking at the pebbles there (maybe for some left over tidbits?). Now she's back brooding with her side to the camera. The wind is blowing her feathers up a bit.
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Hey I am back! My goodness what a long feeding. Trying to watch 2 cams plus read and catch up on all I missed. But Princess been feeding those chicks for quite some time. Just noticed that it is a really large bird, (supper is that is) as large as the chicks are. Someone may have mentioned this before. Its like half a carcuss, one side type thing, I know Lorianne, you were thinking of what to have for supper! lol Well maybe we will all become vegans out of this. ;D Too cute, very good view 3 chicks, group hug and Mom feeding all. She is literally standing on the "food". We need spell check for this! Please don't hate me, 8) guys and girls. 8) 8) :-* :-*
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Princess still feeding her flock. Have a very very graphic view of what supper consists of, be grateful if you are not watching. Chicks getting bigger by the minute. I don't notice any wind either, maybe it has died down. You know this is probably the longest time I have seen her feed them. Well over 10 minutes. She keeps dragging the remains around the chicks in a circle, standing on it and tearing chunks off and feeding, there are all sure getting equal portions tonite with this set up. :)
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well just after my last post, Princess decided enough was enough, she has taken the remains and flew the coop. Chicks look like 3drunken sailers holding each other up. Well I am guessing they do having never seen drunken sailers! Oh, Princess is back,, time to brood her little ones, looks like a good time was had by all. :D
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Ah, sorry gang, that's Trey with the kids - he did the feeding too. :)
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It was reassuring to see the food dragged in a circle around the chicks, as it seemed Trey was making sure no open beaks were being missed.
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Missed? Heck I thought he was going to stuff the little darlings so much that we'd have baby-go-boom. :o
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The chicks are only half covered by the parent (still Trey?) Not much wind, so is it finally warm enough for a bit of supervised open air time?
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Another feeding going on. Not sure yet who it is! lol.. (My apologies TPC for not realizing whom was doing the feeding earlier) Oh, okay,, it is Trey, feeding is over, may have missed a bit, but Princess a much bigger bird with a crown on her head, lol, came in, and ... well Trey said ok my job is done apparently. Princess now on the chicks tail to camera. :-[ :)
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Princess is also letting the chicks have a bit more air. She has her tail to the camera, but seems to be standing up enough so I can see the chicks jostling under and a bit in front of her.
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Hi, everyone. Definitely not too much posting from anyone! I'm so glad to be able to catch up with our kids' day when I get home from work. Esp since now I can't see anything -- Princess, I guess, has been in the same spot with her back to the camera for the past hour, and babies are covered up.
My pic is sticky right now. Also watching Elk River and it's running smoothly, so not sure what's going on.
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I agree, no such thing as too much posting. For those of us with uptight IT depts blocking live streams at work, the forum is the next best thing to seeing!!!- Keep it up eagle23 and everyone else - love reading the happenings throughout the day!! ;D ;D
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I wonder if all of us with an "uptight IT dept" work for the same employer?!! lol ;D
Oh goody, unsticky pic now!
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Bedtime snack!
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oh bedtime snack is right, lol,, too cute one little guy sitting on his butt for a bite! Assume its Mom looks BIG, feeding her babies again. Hey gang, keep checking out the Peregrine Room as TPC (the peregrine chick) says if we have a lot of chatting not applicable to this particular (room). I know I am going over there shortly probalby for some chatting. 8) 8)
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Must be getting cool, Princess got right back on after the quick snack. Nice projectile poop shot out from under!! ;D....I think the nest could use a good hosing down. Poop, blood & guts all over - icky. :-\
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Hi, deedream. I saw TPC's post about the Peregrine Room. But I put my comment here because it related to another comment already here -- I thought it was too confusing if I put something somewhere else with no previous chat. :)
I see the kids are tucked in for bed now. Rats, it's been a pretty quiet evening for me on the camera, other than the snack. Oh well, at least we have another six weeks or so! ;D Yippee!!!!
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Tracy, can you still see what you thought might be a legband? I'm still trying to pick it out.
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Hahaha, wings got lifted and babies are trying to wiggle out!
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Amazing it's 10:24pm Est here and I can still see the nest, given it's an hour behind me. Not sure who is sitting on the nest but whoever it is they have their head tucked under the wing. I can see a little one poking out from under to the left of the adult. Is it me or are the kids getting more and more squirmy with each day.
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Now that is talent for that little one to shoot poop out from under the adults tail feathers and not soil the tail feathers, wow.
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Amazing talent! Guess Mother Nature knows what she's doing. It's not dark yet here so that's why we can still see, but we prob only have about 10/15 mins left. And I agree, they definitely seem a lot more squirmy now! ;D
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Hi, bcbird. Nice to have you join our little clutch! lol
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Well soon it will be dark and we won't see anything.
I missed a lot of the viewing tonight and was just able to check them out now. I did see the supper feeding tho.
I guess they are all settled down for the night. I think it is Princess sitting on them.
Also a thanks to all who posted all day long to keep us informed.
Last year we were able to watch the web cam but this year it just will not come in at work.
Have a good sleep everyone...look forward to all the posts again tomorrow.
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As the embers of daylight fade to the falling darkness all is quiet on the Radisson Peregrine nest. There seems to be a bit of a breeze but just a gentle one. The kids are tucked in and I think I'm going to go tuck myself into my own bed. Night all.
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That was a perfect description, eagle63. Thanks for sending us off in a peaceful frame of mind! Have a good sleep.
And I look forward to all your posts tomorrow.
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thanks everyone for posting so much info as i could not watch any thing today at work and the boss was around to much ::)
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It is black out there, but I'm awake, so I thought I would start today off early. :-\ (If the "dark out there" doesn't make sense, check the time of the post.)
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Wow someone was up early this morning skypilot!
It's 8:15amAST and things are pretty quiet so far. I think it's Princess on duty right now but its hard to tell since her/his head is out of view and I'm looking at their back (again). At least the wind doesn't seem to be up too much this morning. I'm not seeing much movement from the little ones underneath yet but maybe they are napping.
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You are so right...does seem very calm right now. There is a little one who has worked his way out from under Princess (?) a little bit. He's squirming and sitting up, stretching his little wings..
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I can't see the head in my picture, but from the size I would guess it was Trey. His wings have to go so much wider because he is smaller. The blog had a picture of Trey being a shade a couple of days ago and his wings were much wider.
Yesterday the bird on the nest had a hard time covering everyone. The bird left the chick huddle. Shortly after Princess arrived on camera, headed for the well fed chick huddle. She settled in over the chick huddle, which she was big enough to contain them within her legs.
In addition I don't see the "crown" or spots at the back of the head, so I am guessing Trey.
It is good to see all the chicks getting so big. I used to worry about one not getting fed, but they all are so much bigger, that seems like a false worry.
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I just caught a glimpse of the head. Unless the white spots were feathers the wind kicked up on Trey, that's Princess. Wow are those chicks growing.
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Feeding time, but we are starting with her back blocking the chicks.
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Feeding time! It was definitely Princess that gave the chicks their meal this morning. Her back is to the cam again but she turned her head and I saw the white above her beak. She just left and came back within 20 seconds with more food for the chicks.
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Well, breakfast has arrived..Looks like Princess is dishing out the portions...her back is to the camera, so its hard to see the feed...but judging from the bobbing heads...looks like everyone is eagerly eating...
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WEll, just like that, breakfast is over...they are so cute...beaking each other..Falcon kisses? ;D
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Haha the little ones are in a huddle again and they are pecking at each other's beaks, probably trying to get another taste of breakfast. Very cute! Aww they've settled down into their group hug waiting for mom to come back. Oh, or maybe they're waiting for dad. Looks like Trey is back on duty now that the chicks are full. He just can't seem to get them all snuggled under there anymore!
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Looks like Trey with the little ones now...
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Chicks are on their own at the moment, but still huddled together in a big pile of fluff. CUTE! ;D
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I think its Princess now with the youngins... hard to tell.
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Yup definitely Princess. Shes doing a bit of preening.
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Another feeding! Princess is handing out the grub again this morning. I can see one chick has a very full crop but he's still going back for more. Little piggies they are.
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A cool grey morning, 8:10am Wpg time and our family is chowing down! My the chicks are growing. So clumsy though, falling all over each other, landing in heaps...so cute... ;D ;D - Princess takes the remains away, chicks form a Tee-Pee ;D - squirming around, trying to keep their balance. And a couple nice shots of poop for good measure. :P I assume a parent will be back on the scene any moment. ???...oops Tracy you'll have to move this topic, I didn't see somebody already started it for today!!
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Hmm I think Trey has taken over for now. He seems to have another little something sticking out from his beak again today. He must have had his morning snack too!
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The chicks have been on their own for a few minutes now but I'm sure mom or dad isn't too far away. They keep shuffling around, probably trying to get comfortable. They really do look like they're in a huddle with their heads all facing the centre. Oh, looks like Trey is back, feather in beak and all.
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It seems every morning when I get up and check the webcam the little ones have done some extra growing through the night. At the moment my guess is that it's Trey with the family because one chick is 3 quarters out in the open with just it's head tucker under dad to the right, to the left I can see another chick sticking out lol. Oh Dad just left the huddle wow they sure are growing and moving more, flapping their wings more.
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I'll be "tweaking" the camera in a little while so no one panic when you can see more of the birds.
(yeah, like that will happen ;D )
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Did we lose the feed to the webcam?
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Tracy was adjusting the camera!
I guess she over-adjusted.
Isn't Windows Wonderful!
Grelber
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Don'tcha just love technology. Well Tracy will have it back up soon I'm sure, she's very dedicated to the birds and this project and sharing it with the rest of the growing interested birdwatchers :)
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To put it simply - 'Tracy Rocks' !!!!! ;D ;D (now we need the webcam back on please...) ;)
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Tracy rocks indeed!!!!!!!! She has brought back our beloved chicks online to watch wooooohoooooo. And the chicks are by themselves sleeping, they aren't in such a tight huddle either at the moment.
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That's the longest i've seen the chicks left alone, here comes Dad with food and boy did the chick in the middle sit up real quick. Back is to the camera but you can see 3 heads vying for food.
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For a while the chick heap became the chick flop, but now it's the chick feeding frenzy.
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Definately a feeding frenzy, skypilot. Are you noticing the chicks seem to be sitting up better than ever?
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lmao, Dad hasn't finished feeding the kids, one shoots poop towards the top of the picture. Another shoots poop just to the left of Dad,he looks as if the say, "Junior that is just rude, no shooting poop so handy the food."
I am surmising that given how much the chicks are growing now the feedings are last longer. Trey tears off bits and you could see bits of feathers or something being flung to the right of the chicks.
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Has anyone seen Princess? I haven't seen her all morning and it looks as though Trey went and got a meal for the chicks himself.
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ummm Dad, I can't swallow this piece. Oh look how full their crops are, and Dad keeps stuffing them. Yep we're full, time to huddle and then flop lmao
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Has anyone seen Princess? I haven't seen her all morning and it looks as though Trey went and got a meal for the chicks himself.
Trey's a good hunter but downtown isn't the peregrine version of 7-11 ;D The birds I have seen brought in over the last few days are all shorebirds, so Princess is getting them and dropping them off nearby. When she arrives, he goes off and retreives whatever she hasn't nibbled on (and she will have nibbled!)
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"""whatever she hasn't nibbled on (and she will have nibbled!)""
All good mom's 'taste-test' the food they prepare for their kids.. lol
* at least that's my excuse for 'nibbles' taken from dinner/desserts.
lol
L.
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Did we lose the feed to the webcam?
Sorry, that was me. I was adjusting a couple port settings. My fault. All should be good now.
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It's all good eyespy, I know things happen. Just amazes me that if I can't see the webcam and the little ones I feel like I am missing something lol
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Dad just stepped away from the kids, they were in a huddle but once he left they've been shifting a bit. "will you stop moving so I can get comfortable."
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Did we lose the feed to the webcam?
Sorry, that was me. I was adjusting a couple port settings. My fault. All should be good now.
Oops, Eye-Spy has blown his cover ;D Phanatics, say "hi" to Larry the Camera Guy!
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""Oops, Eye-Spy has blown his cover Phanatics, say "hi" to Larry the Camera Guy!""
HI LARRY !
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Hey Larry, now I get to personaly THANK-YOU for all you are doing with this project!!!!!! If it wasn't for you we wouldn't be seeing nature at it's finest.
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Hello:
Pardon my ignorance but I'm new here. With this new tweaked view I can now see objects moving in the upper right-hand corner of the frame. They move by quickly and I can't quite make them out. What am I seeing there? Please reply. Thanks.
Jim Wilhelm
Albuquerque, NM USA
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Hello:
Pardon my ignorance but I'm new here. With this new tweaked view I can now see objects moving in the upper right-hand corner of the frame. They move by quickly and I can't quite make them out. What am I seeing there? Please reply. Thanks.
Jim Wilhelm
Albuquerque, NM USA
I think what you were seeing is the people coming in and out of the hotel :)
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Trey just hopped up to the ledge, I wonder if Princess has brought more food. The chicks are remaining huddled, oh one just had a bathroom break lol
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No food yet, the youngins are moving a bit, two are holding their heads up looking around, one just took a step and flopped on it's face,ouch, went around in a circle and is now facing the siblings in the chick huddle. Little wings fluttering a bit.
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Ten minutes have passed since Dad stepped away from the chicks, they were having a dickens of a time getting in a comfy spot. "I can't hold my neck that way for that long! Gimme a break." Okay now how about a chick hug? "Will that work for you all?" "No some is stepping on my foot."
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Trey just returned to the chicks, almost 20 minutes of chick alone time. The wind seems to be picking up there too. Trey is trying to tuck them all underneath him but to no avail, he's seems to be resting his head on the back of one chick but it just looks that way doubt he had the full weight on the little one. Yeah the wind is becoming more steady, you can see Trey's feathers getting ruffled about from the wind.
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Pardon my ignorance but I'm new here. With this new tweaked view I can now see objects moving in the upper right-hand corner of the frame. They move by quickly and I can't quite make them out. What am I seeing there? Please reply. Thanks
Everyone is new here at some point Jim, so no worries. You are watching cars and pedestrians on the street below. If you'd like to see what the site looks like from a different angle (or two) check out our Photo Gallery (http://www.pbase.com/speciesatrisk/pefa_2008/). We were spying on the birds prior to nesting with a traffic cam on the roof of the Radisson, so you can see where the nest ledge is located in relation to other buildings etc.
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The wind has picked up enough that the adult just got blown off the kids. Had a dickens of a time getting squared back again to brood but not sure how long that is going to last because they are getting blown off again.
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I think it's Princess ( I could be wrong) on the nest. She's now facing the wall to the right of the screen, and is getting a bit of a reprieve from the wind that is pretty much steady now. But here tail feathers are still at risk of being caught by the wind and sending her beak over kettle.
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They sure are having problems with the wind. Almost makes you want to go put a wind break up for them. :)
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Yeah excatly Donna but even though the Peregrines have chosen a manmade structure for their nest we can't interfere with mother nature.
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Yep it's Princess I can see the white patch above her beak, got a good look when her head was going round and round watching what was probably a fly.
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And that fly was really 'bugging' her ::) ( groan ).. she was swivling her head around and looked like she was really getting ticked off at it..
Every time I see someone go by on the sidewalk below I'm reminded of just how low to the ground these guys are this year and I worry about them fledging from this ( not) height.. Last year we lost one of our babies here in Mississauga because she could not get up high enough and smashed into the ground.
Tracy.. do you recruit 'falcon catchers' when they are fledging from this ledge? I know that the 'watchers' in Hamilton are recruited when the babies are expected to take flight as they are also right downtown. Volunteers are signed up to wait at strategic points and watch for falling lumps of feathers from above. I seem to remember the Radisson people scooping someone off the street last year.. ( thank goodness they were there and willing to help out).
And a bit off topic for here, but I see that we have more and more 'new' people joining us.. welcome one and all, but this also peaks my curiosity.. one small request.. if everyone could just post where they are watching from the next time they post.
I am interested to see just how far and wide we all hail from.
As noted, I am in Mississauga, Ontario.. near Toronto.
Lori.
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I've been wondering about that too Liz, about given how low the nest is to the ground will that pose a problem down the road.
I'll respond to the part of your note about location in the Peregrine room :)
Lmao, junior almost got mom with a shot of poop :D
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Yeah excatly Donna but even though the Peregrines have chosen a manmade structure for their nest we can't interfere with mother nature.
Well Eagle 63, I've often been tempted to interfere with Mother Nature this year, I'd like to get a box, go up a very tall ladder, plop the whole family into the box and transport them all to the sheltered penthouse where they belong!... ;D ;D ;D
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TPC mentioned earlier this season, that the nest is higher up than it looks - about 13 floors - but that is low compared to last year - which was around 30 floors? ..sigh... :-\
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oh my goodness mom just about got blown out of the nest.
LOL Bally at your comments about interfering with mother nature.
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That wind is blowing steadily, according to weathernetwork the wind is 17km with gusts in the 28km range.
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wow mum sure hung on that time when the wind almost knocked her beak over kettle, now it's blown her around that she's facing the wall to the left, man oh man she's having quite a time this afternoon. Gawd I feed for Princess.
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Darn it I wish I could speak Peregrine so I could tell her to face the wind and then she won't get knocked over beak over kettle.
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Did we lose the feed to the webcam?
Sorry, that was me. I was adjusting a couple port settings. My fault. All should be good now.
Oops, Eye-Spy has blown his cover ;D Phanatics, say "hi" to Larry the Camera Guy!
Remind me never to tell you any other secrets..... :o
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Happy 1 week old Birthday 3 fluffy chicks!!!!!! ;D
Great job Princess and Trey. :D
Doreen
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Wind is kicking up ::)- Poor Trey has no chance of getting all 3 kiddies covered up, looks like he's elected to just huddle in front of them instead. 8) He seems to be looking for Princess to come and rescue him! ;)
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Holy smokes! :o I haven't seen our babies for a couple of days and, WOW, have they grown. I guess that means that mum and dad are doing a great job. Keep up the good work Princess and Trey!!! ;)
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Yeah, they really have grown! And poor Trey, feathers flapping all over the place. The trees aren't really moving much outside (altho I am getting a nice breeze every so often thru my window), so it gives you an idea of the windtunnel effect we have downtown here. The hotel is only three blocks from Portage & Main, which some call the windiest corner in N. America.
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I guess that's Princess on duty now. She's at a different angle than Trey was, and seems to be getting less blown. Well... maybe not. She sure is doing a lot of rocking!
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Wow! A few minutes ago I watched Princess (two positions prior to this one) pull a chick under her as she was settling the all in the most forceful way I've ever seen either P or T do! I had to laugh at her determination to be the boss. She is amazing in all that wind. Seems like everytime I log on, it's blowing a gale.
Catching up on another observation from earlier today because I've had trouble accessing the forum the past few days....
Trey had left the chicks and eventually returned with food, but while he was gone it sure looked like 'sibling rivalry' between two of the chicks! They were pecking at each other and at times doing it over the third chick resting in between them.... Is pecking each other know to be a thing of good will or more of a "I'm tired of being stuck witt you in these tight quarters and I can't get comfortable" sibling rivalry type thing?
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"Get in here, dammit!!"
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"Curfew! And because I said so. I'm the MUM!!! I don't care if the other kids are still out playing. If they jumped off a bridge,..."
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Cool! Look at those breast feathers flailing in the wind. Looks like bed-time snack time again.
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wow has the wind ever picked up, I just came back inside and caught the tail end of the feeding, feathers sure getting ruffled in that wind.
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Yes, poor girl is really getting hit. No doubt Dad won't be on them again tonight!
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I wonder if Falcons remember previous years of nesting? Maybe next year they will choose the penthouse nestbox?
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Okay, that blast of wind she just got hit with came thru my window too! lol
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eagle63, I sure hope they DO remember. This is a really crummy spot they've chosen. The penthouse is protected from the wind. It's also much hotter, because it faces SW, so they'd have to deal with that. But, they would have some shelter from the sun too, being under cover. And if they do pick it next year......... we'll have sound!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
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Is that the remanents of bedtime snack just below Princess?
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I think it may be old remnants! I saw her pecking at it a little while ago, but it was funny with this snack -- it seemed like she went from handing out morsels of food and before the chicks had even gulped it down she was moving forward right onto them! I wondered if she gulped the last bit herself to get rid of it all without leaving the chicks in the wind.
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Yeah she sure was onto the brooding duty some fast after the snack and with that wind no wonder.
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"Curfew! And because I said so. I'm the MUM!!! I don't care if the other kids are still out playing. If they jumped off a bridge,..."
;D
She does seem more Mother Bear-ish and in charge than I've ever noticed before! I guess with the chicks growing and getting bigger, she has to up her ante too! She seems to be doing a great job! What a good Mum she is!
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Doesn't she though, I've seen do that no nonsense thing with even Trey.
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Is that the remanents of bedtime snack just below Princess?
I too think it was left over. I saw something sitting there when Trey was on duty.
She is a great Mum, isn't she?!!! ;D ;D (Okay, and kudos to Trey, too!)
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Poor Princess she's sure had a lot of windy days to contend with.
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Oh lord there she goes again, the wind is really giving Princess a difficult time. Thank goodness for the ledge there in the background or she would have gone over. Poor Mom. If she could just face the wind a bit more she wouldn't go beak over kettle so much. Everytime she gets that tail in the direction of the wind she's get tossed about. It's getting dark out in the Peg, soon won't be able to see anything. Was hoping the wind would die down with the encroaching darkness of night but no such luck so far. And not liable to by the look of tonight's forecast out there, winds in the 30km range and rain. oh boy.
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Wow, that last blow over was a scary one! Heart in my throat for what seemed like minutes! Thank goodness for that ledge.
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Very scary, everytime the wind blows like that it makes me very nervous.
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And so another day of survival in the life of 3 special Peregrine chicks comes to a close the nightfall encroaching their neck of the woods. And with that I am off to bed myself. Night all.
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Some newbie questions. Where does Trey hang out all night while Princess is parenting?
Do any feedings happen at night?
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Hi bcbird. I'm in BC, too.
I'm not qualified to answer your questions, but I'll let you know what I think, and then if I'm wrong, The Peregrine Chick (Tracy) can correct us both!
I think Trey hangs out close by, either on the Radisson sign or somewhere else very close (if he's not with the chicks, that is, and seeing as it's windy tonight, he won't be!)
I was wondering about feeding at night, too, but as they don't fly at night, I don't think they do feed at night (unless there's a secret stash left during the day for midnight raids on the 'fridge'!)
well, now we'll have to wait and see if TPC corrects us and/or adds more detailed info...
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Hi Enraptured.
Thanks for your thoughts. Night feedings and babies just seem to go together, so I do wonder.
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Is it ever windy! Trey just had a brief try at the nesting. He was repeatedly being blown over. He's just gone off. Oh good, Big Mama has arrived with a sizable bed time snack. Bet this will be another quick feed and then cover time from this night wind.
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Great night vision you have, bcbird! I can't see a thing, so thanks for the update!
It will be interesting to hear about night feedings. Good point about babies.
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Yep, she has them tucked well in. Looks like a wing firmly over each bottom of the front two in the huddle, keeps her head down and seems determined to ride out these gusts. What a devoted mother. She did haul off a fair bit of leftover, returning quickly. Maybe there is a night cache afterall. whew, camera shaking again in the gusts!
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my two cents... I also don't think there are any night feedings, but TPC will tell us. And, prob Trey spends the night on the Radisson sign. I keep trying to see him from my window at work during the day, but three blocks away and no binocs, kinda hard. Get a good view of Princess when she's on the JR sign, tho. Well... a smallish view, but I can still tell she's there and that makes me happy!
And, I can't see anything either anymore -- It's dark here!
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weird. Did I get a replay of earlier today somehow? Just relaunched the webcam site, and of course all is dark.
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I don't think that happens. Guess you were just lucky!
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Tracy.. do you recruit 'falcon catchers' when they are fledging from this ledge? I know that the 'watchers' in Hamilton are recruited when the babies are expected to take flight as they are also right downtown. Volunteers are signed up to wait at strategic points and watch for falling lumps of feathers from above. I seem to remember the Radisson people scooping someone off the street last year.. ( thank goodness they were there and willing to help out).
We do sort of. Most our birds take their first flights early in the morning (4-6 am) or in the evenings (just before dusk) and that's not an easy time to get folks to want to hang around in downtown Winnipeg. And it isn't just their first flight that is the problem, they are actually in danger for the first week. So need volunteers willing to get up at the crack of dawn and hang around until sunset trying to keep their eye on birds for the first week. Not an easy thing. The location is also difficult because no matter where you stand, it takes the birds a second (literally) to fly out of sight, usually around a building and it will take 20 minutes to get into position where you can see them where they have landed, meantime, they have moved again. That's the problem with being right downtown, lots of high buildings. Usually what ends up happening is that evening flights we generally just make sure they are safely off the street when the sun sets because the chicks won't fly anymore. In the morning, we'll make a sweep to see if we can find them all and again make sure they are safe. And we wait for calls of downed birds (happened twice last year).
And a bit off topic for here, but I see that we have more and more 'new' people joining us.. welcome one and all, but this also peaks my curiosity.. one small request.. if everyone could just post where they are watching from the next time they post. I am interested to see just how far and wide we all hail from.
You are welcome to ask, and folks are welcome to participate or not, though the Peregrine Room is a better location for this.
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Holy smokes! :o I haven't seen our babies for a couple of days and, WOW, have they grown. I guess that means that mum and dad are doing a great job. Keep up the good work Princess and Trey!!! ;)
FYI - the chicks have in fact doubled in mass since they were hatched.
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my two cents... I also don't think there are any night feedings, but TPC will tell us. And, prob Trey spends the night on the Radisson sign. I keep trying to see him from my window at work during the day, but three blocks away and no binocs, kinda hard. Get a good view of Princess when she's on the JR sign, tho. Well... a smallish view, but I can still tell she's there and that makes me happy!
And, I can't see anything either anymore -- It's dark here!
One or the other adult will spend the night on the chicks or sitting on the nest ledge when the chicks are older all night. The other adult is usually not very far away just in case. As for feedings, nope, no food for the babs when its dark. That's why there is a late feeding in the evening and as soon as they can catch something in the am - that's the feeding most folks miss. :D
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Morning Early Birds! :D
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lol. You beat them all to it!
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"So need volunteers willing to get up at the crack of dawn and hang around until sunset trying to keep their eye on birds for the first week. "
"Crack of dawn" isn't in my vocabulary, but I can do sunset if you need. Off work at 5 at the windy corner (so, close).
(Yesterday is locked, so I couldn't say this there....)
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"So need volunteers willing to get up at the crack of dawn and hang around until sunset trying to keep their eye on birds for the first week. "
"Crack of dawn" isn't in my vocabulary, but I can do sunset if you need. Off work at 5 at the windy corner (so, close).
(Yesterday is locked, so I couldn't say this there....)
Today is fine :D And thanks for volunteering, may be a big deal, may not be a big deal. Will be sure to set up a post asking for volunteers with information on what it would entail and when. If it still works with your schedule you are volunteer numero uno.
If I could I would shift the little beggers to the nestbox when we band them. Trey and Princess would find them, but don't want to stress them liike that.
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But moving them would make all the rest of us Chick Parents happy! :P
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But moving them would make all the rest of us Chick Parents happy! :P
Double Ditto!!!!
Just think, maybe P and T would then realize what a great home the nest box is and be very motivated to use it next year!! :D ;D
(...in a perfect world where moving does not cause stress!... :))
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Good morning Everyone,
Can't see the birds yet this morning. The picture is fuzzy. It is raining out there. Temp is 12 degrees and wind is NE 37 KM but no gusts.
It will be a wet and cool one for them today.
Hopefully soon the chicks will be able to regulate their body temperature on their own.
Well everyone have a great day and enjoy watching this famous Falcon Family. Unfortunately I won't be able to watch them until tomorrow.
I look forward to reading all the posts.
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The webcam picture is all fuzzy ???
I can't see much at all.
Did I miss something?
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Wow everyone was up early today!
It's 8:15amAST and I can't see a darn thing. I can tell its raining but the image is so blurry I can barely make out where the birds are. Must be either a huge raindrop on the cam or its really foggy haha. Hopefully it will clear up on its own in a while. Until then...
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Good morning everyone...I'm getting a very late start...and I can't see a darn thing either...but I too can tell it is raining...surely someone hasn't hit the lens with a poop shot already... ;D
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It is raining like stink (10-20-30 mm today) and the winds are gusting to 60 km. Chance of a thunderstorm. From the forecast it sounds like the T-storm and the gusty winds are just for this morning, but maybe I'm being too optimistic.
As for thermoregulating, they should be able to do that by Monday-Tuesday. However, Trey and Princess will probably try to keep them covered in this kind of weather until such time as they really can't fit under them anymore. Wet chick = unhappy chick = physically stressed chick.
I have never wanted chicks to grow quickly, always lots of things to do and love to watch them grow. This year however, I have had to catch myself a couple of times from saying "I can't wait until you " umph *slaps hand over mouth*. Am not going to say it, am not going to say it!
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http://mississauga.com/article/14887
nice and sunny here in beautiful downtown Missisauga !.. lol..
follow the link above to see one of our kids..
Also the article posted in 'Other Falcon Cams"
It looks like the weather is nasty there.. will keep all the small bits crossed for the 'kids'...
I looked at the camera first thing this morning ( 6 am Toronto time) and the moisture was just ooozing down the lens.
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OH MY STARS!!! Just checking back in...it looks miserable there.....but I'm sure Princess is keeping them nice and dry...but feeding? This is the first streaming cam I've watched where the parent and kids have been exposed to the elements...maybe Trey could feed while Princess serves as an umbrella...
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Oh my - I just want to cry! - the nestbox just looks like a huge puddle. I hope they can get through today ok, it's a horrible day out there!!! :'( :'(
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That pools of water makes me wonder what is going on under the parents. It's not just the chicks that are stressed. The parents have to spread out their feathers and try to cover and warm the chicks, when there may be water pooled under the parent. Heating all that to keep the chicks alive has to be a stress on the parents.
In addition, from my experience as a hunter, game tends to go to ground, find the dryest spot they can and huddle under the best water protection they can get. Game is not behaving like normal, and from the parents perspective, a lot harder to find and get. We've seen how often the chicks want to feed (anyone with teenagers knows this one really well), so that's another stressor for the parents.
Whichever parent this is, and from the coverage I would guess Princess, has headed for the high ground and put walls almost all around to cut down on wind. Still, it is a wet, miserable day to be a parent.
All that said, falcons survive. Before we get too worried about the weather, here is a video link to a falcon in a dive from a National Geographic production.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3mTPEuFcWk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqt05iR9WI&feature=related
Enjoy
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Oh my gosh those poor birds! The ledge is a little lake with one soggy looking bird sitting in the corner. I hope the chicks are doing ok under there. Oh my heart breaks for them but I know they will be alright. Hopefully the weather will settle down a bit so the little ones can dry out! If this doesn't convince them that the nextbox would have been a better nest site then I don't know what will!
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Wow did that whole area fill up fast. When I started my last post, there were two separate pools. When I finished, the entire site was water covered, and the part of Princess' wing on the stones looked to be at least a cm underwater. Fortunately the weather has let up some, at least in the NE Kildonan area.
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In the upper right hand corner of my picture, above the ledge, I keep seeing motion flickers - in the past usually it meant a shift change or at least food. Can anyone see what it is?
Now I see the down side of the site and why there is a big drain. The wall above the birds is catching water and it runs down into the basin, as well as the stuff that naturally lands in the basin where the birds nested.
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I'm finding it hard to even watch. :'( :'( :'(
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...i'm getting a little concerned here...
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In the upper right hand corner of my picture, above the ledge, I keep seeing motion flickers - in the past usually it meant a shift change or at least food. Can anyone see what it is?
...i believe that since the camera angle was changed that you can now see a portion of the street below; the "flickers" are probably pedestrians, RUNNING!!! because it is REALLY coming down out here...
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...i'm getting a little concerned here...
I'm getting a lot concerned here....we've gone from puddles to a small pond...I'm sure Tracy and crew are monitoring the situation...but that scrape is really filling up with water...
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In the upper right hand corner of my picture, above the ledge, I keep seeing motion flickers - in the past usually it meant a shift change or at least food. Can anyone see what it is?
I think that what you can see in the upper right corner is the road next to the building. Maybe you are seeing cars go by?
I can't believe how fast the ledge has filled up with water. I wonder how much water the chicks are sitting in right now. Poor Princess is soaked right through. It is really hard to see but wild animals deal with this kind of thing all the time, we just never get to see it up close like this. All we can do is hope the rain stops soon and keep our fingers crossed that the little ones will be alright.
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I hope they are dealing with it better than I am...you're right, we don't know what's going on under Princess...I do hope they are on a mound of gravel and only their little feet are getting wet...but I am concerned...I hope they are able to keep their little heads above water...what is the temp there?
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Take a look at
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/558983.jpg
from the new topic Raddison nest site. I'm guessing they are on the roof of that little projection with a window on the north and east side of the building.
I was in that window taking pictures last summer, and there were no water leaks on the ceiling. On top of that, I watched the falcon feather circling the drain for a while. The drain is working. All this is cold comfort (pun noticed but unavoidable) but I am less worried about the chicks drowning.
From the posts on the new topic Radisson Nest Site, the flickers of motion in my upper right corner of my picture are pedestrians.
Also I would guess the parents chose this side because most storms come from the west, and they wanted to get out of the weather this year. I have this hunch next year Princess will definitely be in the box. That huddle of feathers in the corner doesn't look like a happy camper.
I wish I were guessing and hoping less and knowing more. Hey, why be a Piker? I wish it was sunny, at least until the chicks can self thermo regulate.
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If it rains much more, I'm afraid that Princess and Trey won't be able to keep the chicks from drowning. It doesn't look like that ledge has any drainage at all. It looks like a bathtub in there. :'(
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Thanks for that perspective, skypilot...and glad to know you've been to that site...now if the rain could back off some and give the drain a chance to do its job...it does look like its slowing down some (or is that wishful thinking)...talons crossed...
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Well...the rain's still coming...but at least it doesn't look like its getting any deeper...I'm ready to come up there with my pail and start bailing!!!
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If it rains much more, I'm afraid that Princess and Trey won't be able to keep the chicks from drowning. It doesn't look like that ledge has any drainage at all. It looks like a bathtub in there. :'(
Watch the bubbles near the drain. A bubble forms when rain hits the water. The bubbles immediately head for the drain. The drain is working, just not the way we all wish it worked.
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Well...the rain's still coming...but at least it doesn't look like its getting any deeper...I'm ready to come up there with my pail and start bailing!!!
I'm with you skygirl! Let's grab our buckets and galoshes and bail out our babies!
Sigh, if only! I can't tell if the water level is changing or not. Seems like its gotten even higher since I last checked. I wonder where Trey is? Hopefully somewhere a little dryer!
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I do believe the drain is working...if it weren't, the water would be a lot deeper than it is....hopefully the kids are on a mound of gravel..and keeping their heads above water...I'm sure Princess is really keeping their upper body warm. Gosh...I wish the rain would stop, at least for a while, to give them a break and to give the water a chance to drain...Again...I'm sure Tracy is watching the situation..
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oh my god, I just logged onto to the webcam to see Lake Princess. Tracy will the chicks be okay with that much water around them?
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By my count the chicks are only 9 days old. I'm just wondering how likely it is that they are going to be able to thermoregulate themselves well enough at this point to make sure they don't freeze in all that cold water. I know they have their mother for warmth but I'm sure she's pretty cold up there too! :(
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Tracy just posted anote in the main frame saying they were going to attempt to rescue the chicks, omg I have never felt my heart in my throat the way it is right now.
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I wonder if in the rescue attempt will they move them to the nest box?
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By my count the chicks are only 9 days old. I'm just wondering how likely it is that they are going to be able to thermoregulate themselves well enough at this point to make sure they don't freeze in all that cold water. I know they have their mother for warmth but I'm sure she's pretty cold up there too! :(
I'm with you on that...I don't want to go down the path of alarmist..but I'll go ahead and say it....I'm ready for some type of intervention...not sure that's possible though...so we'll just have to hope for a positive outcome...and a load of gravel once this is over....gotta give them some "higher" ground...I keep trying to remind myself that falcons have survived in the wild on cliff ledges in must worse conditions...tho' this one is pretty intense...
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Tracy just posted anote in the main frame saying they were going to attempt to rescue the chicks, omg I have never felt my heart in my throat the way it is right now.
Thank goodness....and praise be!!!!!!!
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By now you all should have received the private message Tracy sent out. Now let's all just sit here and pray to the heavens that the kids and parents will be okay through all this. :'(
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For the guests viewing this page here is the note from Tracy.
"Am attempting to organize rescue of chicks under difficult environmental conditions. Will let you all know what happens as and when I have time.
Please do not contact CBC, Radisson Hotel, Manitoba Conservation or myself. We are all working on it as fast as we can.
Tracy
Project Coordinator
Peregrine Falcon Recovery Project"
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Tracy just posted anote in the main frame saying they were going to attempt to rescue the chicks, omg I have never felt my heart in my throat the way it is right now.
Link to the note, please? I don't know what the main frame is - if it was in the camera view, I missed it.
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I justy received notification on my e-mail from Tracy. I am praying for the best possible outcome. Positive vibes people.
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Phew, thats a relief. I just hope everyone is ok by the time they get there!
Tracy to the rescue!
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Precisely Bev. The notice Tracy has on the mainframe is located at the top of the page when you first log into the forum. She posted:
"Attempting to rescue chicks. Please stand by for new as I can provide it."
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Tracy just posted anote in the main frame saying they were going to attempt to rescue the chicks, omg I have never felt my heart in my throat the way it is right now.
Link to the note, please? I don't know what the main frame is - if it was in the camera view, I missed it.
The note should be in your message inbox. Look at the top of your screen and you should see a link to get to your messages.
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OK everybody....positive thoughts!!!!
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http://species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/peregrinations/
Skypilot, this is where Tracy posted on the blog.
The poor chicks! :'(
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Exactly Falconista. Let's all cross our fingers and toes and anything and prayers were welome. Poor Princess I haven't seen her move a muscle until just now I see her shaking her head.
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Here is the text:
Am attempting to organize rescue of chicks under difficult environmental conditions. Will let you all know what happens as and when I have time.
Please do not contact CBC, Radisson Hotel, Manitoba Conservation or myself. We are all working on it as fast as we can.
Tracy
Project Coordinator
Peregrine Falcon Recovery Project
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Let's all pray for the people attempting the rescue - that nest is a long way up, and from the camera view it is both raining and gusting.
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fingers and toes are crossed and I am praying.
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I am feeling as helpless as I am sure all of you are. I am sick to my stomach it is so heartbreaking to watch this. I am praying repeatedly for a safe rescue and I can't help be even more proud and in awe of "Princess" she definetly gets "mother of the year" award from me!!!!
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In total agreement with you skypilot. It is indeed a dangerous endeavour to attempt a rescue in such crazy weather conditions as these.
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Oh dear, what an awful, awful morning for the family.
My heart is in my throat and I'm praying for a safe and quick rescue! Thank God for the team who is helping them.
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I am feeling as helpless as I am sure all of you are. I am sick to my stomach it is so heartbreaking to watch this. I am praying repeatedly for a safe rescue and I can't help be even more proud and in awe of "Princess" she definetly gets "mother of the year" award from me!!!!
I so agree....this is so hard to watch...I want to turn the cam off and just follow the situation on the blog....but I just can't seem to do that. I pray for the safety of Tracy and the others...and that they find that the chicks are ok once they get there...but I do think we all need to prepare ourselves for the worse....and feel blessed and thankful when there is a positive outcome...I feel sure we've got enough positive vibes and prayers headed their way that hopefully its gonna be ok...I'm so thankful that Tracy and crew are even considering a rescue...other places would have allowed "nature to take its course"....Thanks Tracy and crew!!!!
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Definitely a risky move going up there in this weather. Hopefully everyone (feathered and non-feathered friends alike) will be ok!
Princess sure is one dedicated mother! I think the water level has gotten even higher! Gosh I hope the chicks are alright!
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You are right Skyblugirl, most times it would have been left to letting mother nature take it's course. The people of this project could have done the same but they are putting their own safety at risk and indeed prayers to the team. Kudos too because it shows their dedication to these birds, this species that is still in Threatened statues in terms of their population status.
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Has the rain slowed down a bit? and Princess is shaking her sweet little head...come on drain...do your job!!!
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I don't want to think of the negative in this situation, I know it's foolish to keep thinking things will work themselves out, but I keep hoping they will.
I also can't watch the FalconCam. I look at it really quickly to see if things changed, and then close the window. I hope we see this rescue!
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I've been trying to figure out if the rain has slowed at all but I'm not sure. It's hard to tell with all the wind, but I think it might be letting up a bit. Still no signs of the ledge draining though. Princess' tail feathers are still bobbing up and down in the water.
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I don't want to think of the negative in this situation, I know it's foolish to keep thinking things will work themselves out, but I keep hoping they will.
I also can't watch the FalconCam. I look at it really quickly to see if things changed, and then close the window. I hope we see this rescue!
Well, I think we do need to remain hopeful....but I do think the situation is very grave...Princess is really hanging in there with them....I'm gonna try too...
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I am curious about the "how" they are going to do a rescue. Rent a crane? Go by ropes and pullys, Use a window washing platform? Any of these I would think is going to take some time to put in place and be dangerous and expect will be an expensive undertaking as well. I wonder "if" when they rescue the chicks and they are okay will they move them to the original nest box up 30 stories, or will they have to be taken to a rehabilitation place? I was just wondering and worrying in advance and trying to think positively. I know Tracy mentioned in a previous post on a thread somewheres that if ever they were put in the nest box the original one that the parents would find them so I was thinkiing that they may do that, now that a rescue has been launched and the birds are already"stressed" . Looking at that darn web cam, makes me think,,,, oh lord how can they survive under there... have to wait and see I guess, hope for the best, be prepared for anything. :(
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Another thought just occurred to me... but not only are these birds cold and wet, they have yet to be fed! How miserable must they be right now?
I know it's probably not likely but I really hope they consider moving the chicks up to the nest box so they will be out of the elements. I don't think falcons were meant to swim...
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Deedream, I was wondering the same thing, would they put the rescued chicks in the penthouse nestbox. Time will tell. At times it seems like the rain is letting up and then it seems like the wind just drives the rain in even harder. Princess sure it one dedicated mother. And the team is matching her dedication by even considering a rescue. I too am wondering about the method of trying to rescue them. It would indeed take time to get into action. They just zoomed out, I am guessing they are going to show the rescue attempt.
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Cam just zoomed out. The whole ledge is flooded.
Very neat to be able to see what else is going on around the building though.
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RAINFALL WARNING: City of Winnipeg
Issued at 9:45 AM CDT FRIDAY 6 JUNE 2008
AREAS OF 50 MM OF RAIN TODAY.
A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IN NORTH DAKOTA IS STREAMING A LOT OF MOISTURE INTO SOUTHERN MANITOBA THIS MORNING. AS OF 9:30 AM, REPORTS FROM SOUTH WINNIPEG AND GLENLEA INDICATE OVER 40 MM OF RAINFALL. BEFORE THE FIRST BAND OF RAIN ENDS NEAR 11:00 AM, SOME AREAS AROUND THE RED RIVER VALLEY WILL HAVE RECEIVED 50 MM OF RAIN OR MORE. THIS MAY CAUSE SOME LOCAL FLOODING, ESPECIALLY IN LOW-LYING AREAS. THIS AFTERNOON, SOME MORE RAIN IS POSSIBLE, AS THUNDERSTORMS FORM SOUTH OF THE BORDER AND MOVE NORTH. ENVIRONMENT CANADA IS MONITORING THIS SITUATION VERY CLOSELY AND WILL UPDATE THIS WARNING THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
This is the warning that the City of Winnipeg is under at the moment, direct from Environment Canada. Nature isn't always easy or nice to watch.
I sincerely hope all the best for the chicks and Princess. It is definately heartbreaking to watch. Good luck Tracy.
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Hi everyone ,Just felt I had to write ,I got up this morning and was looking forward to seeing our little ones and reading everyone note and when I did I got so upset I think I cryed for 20 min I feel so sad for them and I know it is nature but i still feel very upset .
But if Tracy and the crew are trying to help they must think there is hope as I do not think they would but there self in danger if there was no hope ,so let keep our finger crossed.
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Cam just zoomed out. The whole ledge is flooded.
Very neat to be able to see what else is going on around the building though.
WOW...soo that's where they are....I hope this means they are getting close to rescue...
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What the heck is going on.. i'm gone for a few minutes.. and all He ** breaks loose.
Please keep posting.. i can't see the web cam at work.. and am sitting here with my heart in my throat...
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RAINFALL WARNING: City of Winnipeg
Issued at 9:45 AM CDT FRIDAY 6 JUNE 2008
AREAS OF 50 MM OF RAIN TODAY...THIS MAY CAUSE SOME LOCAL FLOODING, ESPECIALLY IN LOW-LYING AREAS.
Local flooding is right! And not just in low lying areas either!
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A rainfall warning is in effect for Winnipeg. Environment Canada website (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?mb9) has this to say:
"A strong low pressure system in North Dakota is streaming a lot of moisture into southern Manitoba this morning. As of 9:30 AM, reports from south Winnipeg and glenlea indicate over 40 mm of rainfall. Before the first band of rain ends near 11:00 AM, some areas around the Red River Valley will have received 50 mm of rain or more. This may cause some local flooding, especially in low-lying areas.
This afternoon, some more rain is possible, as thunderstorms form south of the border and move north. Environment Canada is monitoring this situation very closely and will update this warning throughout the day."
If you want to check where the rain is check the radar: http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=XWL
So hopefully the rain will let up in about half an hour and then they can get them before the thunderstorms this afternoon! Keep praying folks!
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I wonder if that cube van that came and backed up and is sitting there is the rescue team?
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God!! I'm so scared and worried!!
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Yeah, I'm not really sure what's going on right now. Not much happening but maybe that truck we see is the rescue team, who knows. I think they opened the back of it but I'm not sure what they're doing. I can't take much more of this waiting! Rain is still coming down steadily and Princess is barely moving.
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I was thinking the same thing deedream when I first saw it but I saw the driver get something out of the back and go acrossed the street. My guess is it's a courier.
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I am shaking. Where are all the cliff and rock climbers when you need them??????
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Me too...I hate to admit this...but I think I'm gonna throw up....just kidding...but I've got so many butterflies in my stomach I can't stand it...I'm curious about the white van too...if the chicks are still with us, they are gonna have to be warmed quickly...
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You're probably right eagle :(
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I'm sick to my stomach - :'( :'( :'( - I pray they're on time to save them. Thank GOD for Tracy and these wonderful people!!! - I'm about to cry - at work!!!
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Just keeping praying for the best outcome, that chicks are alive and rescuers safely succeed in the rescue attempt.
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iIhope princess is ok she must be very wet ...............has any one seen tery this morning ?
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Grelber posted this link to a good picture of the site.
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/558983.jpg
Take a look at it to see what rescue really requires. They are over the little window sticking out of the wall facing the camera.
The drains are working some, the bubbles from raindrops hitting the pool head into the drain. Unfortunately man made drains get clogged - just think about the street drains until all the last autumn leaves have all been disposed of. These drains are having to deal with a family of falcons, feathers from the family and dinner, etc., as well as run off from the side of the building above the roof.
Let's follow what Tracy asked:
Am attempting to organize rescue of chicks under difficult environmental conditions. Will let you all know what happens as and when I have time.
Please do not contact CBC, Radisson Hotel, Manitoba Conservation or myself. We are all working on it as fast as we can.
Tracy
Project Coordinator
Peregrine Falcon Recovery Project
If a rescue is attempted, please pray for those going out into the rain and wind gusts that high up. Think about what the family of whomever goes would feel, having a loved one in danger to try to save hatchlings. Let's send prayers and most of all not let our concerns for the hatchlings make the situation more dangerous or harder for anyone else.
David+
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I'm sick to my stomach - :'( :'( :'( - I pray they're on time to save them. Thank GOD for Tracy and these wonderful people!!! - I'm about to cry - at work!!!
me too... and everyone else... nothing worse than feeling hopeless...
fingers crossed.... keep posting please....
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I am a chicken and have been checking in off and on.
Boy, SkyGirl Blue, How much drama can one take in one year
It's me , Bev from St. Albert(out of Edmonton)
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I am a chicken and have been checking in off and on.
Boy, SkyGirl Blue, How much drama can one take in one year
It's me , Bev from St. Albert(out of Edmonton)
Hey Bev.....its killing me...way too much drama this year...
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You are so right Skypilot. I am praying for everyone concerned
And I am closing my eyes a lot . My stomach does not take adversity so well. I have had enough at my own nest site already this year.
Positive vibes
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Part of me now wonders if they zoomed out, so we wouldn't see this tragedy so up close. :'( :'(
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it's been along time since I've felt intensity like this.
iIhope princess is ok she must be very wet ...............has any one seen tery this morning ?
When they had the cam zoomed in Princess looked soaked to the bone.
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I wonder why they have pulled the cam back...I was hoping it was because the rescue attempt was going to start....maybe it was just to put us out of our misery...watching the situation so closely....
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Are there people there at the ledge yet? - what can you see???
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What's going on with the cam? It's moving all around.
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ok...interesting....now we're getting a tour of the area....
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Oh Goodness, that doesn't look hopeful.
I wish we could be there to help! Even though I woudn't know what to do.
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hmmmm interesting we are getting quite the view of the city, I wonder if they are looking for Trey?
I just saw a line of pilons blocking the traffic up top out of view of the camera just as they were zooming back to princess.
Anyone else ready to scream out of frustration and helplessness?
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Still no sign of the rescue team...
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THERE'S NOBODY THERE YET?? - OH MY GOD, I'M SHAKING. :'( :'( :'(
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it will take time to co-ordinate the equipment needed to do the rescure. Can't set it up that fast like a bird can take to flight in an instant. Nope not magic wand here.
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but the white van has been there quite awhile
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Anyone else ready to scream out of frustration and helplessness?
YES!!! I wish I was there to do something. I just don't know what.
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I'm ready to scream....I need to go take a walk or something...
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Panning again....looking for ? Oh sure...that ledge is dry....looking for Trey, rescue team?
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I wonder what they're looking for. The camera sure is panning around a lot. I'm not really that concerned with what the road looks like I must admit... That white truck is still there at least. And the rain seems to be letting up a little.
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The rain seems to have eased up some at least.
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I suspect that as soon as Princess and Trey chose this ledge as their nest this year that Tracy and the other Peregrine folks starting planning how to approach the nest for banding. They must have a plan about how best to access the ledge. I'm sure they are several steps ahead of us all . . . keep positive!
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Ok.. EVERYONE !
TAKE A DEEP BREATH. CLOSE YOUR EYES AND THINK POSITIVE THOUGHTS. ! CONCENTRATE ON A POSITIVE OUTCOME !
THE POWER OF POSITIVE THOUGHT IS A FORCE !!!!!
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They are probably waiting for the rain to stop in about 20 minutes (according to Winnipeg Radar: http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=XWL) These are all experienced people dealing with the situation so lets all take a deep breath and keep hoping for the best.
As for the camera moving around I am sure they are just looking at ways of trying to get up there from the ground or places to put the birds after they take them down or even just looking for where Trey is. They have to be prepared for all eventualities.
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Truck is gone... I guess that wasn't our rescuers after all.
I'm sure you're right Baffled, they must have a plan of how to get up there.
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The cube van was Canpar, I read the lettering as it pulled away. I agree with Baffled they no doubt have already discussed how to access the ledge for banding just weren't thinking they'd have to put it into action on the spur of the moment.
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It does look like the rain is slowing down...but that ledge just is not draining...I have forgotten how to breathe....but Positve vibes.....positive vibes.....WHEW
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No it doesn't seem to be draining and that is likely because it's gotten clogged with debris.
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Holy cow, someone is repelling down the side of the building!
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wooooo hooooo to the rescue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cross your fingers folks
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OMG
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This is too cool.
There goes Princess.
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hooray ;D
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Why doesn't Trey come to help out with body heat, shelter, etc???? :'(
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OMG I don;t think the chicks are moving...
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omg
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I am recording....
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Oh GOD what can you see?? - HELP!!!!!
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Oh God I think we lost them guys...
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:'( :'( :'( :'(
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princess is being very good
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chicks are in water and not moving. Princess sitting over on ledge watching
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Theres someone checking on the birds... putting them in a bag I think. I'm pretty sure they're all dead.
Princess just flew away.
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chicks are deceased.
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It looks like we've lost the chicks... :'( :'( :'(
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This is horrible.Get the chicks. Poor princess is just siting there. I hope they are just wet and not drowned.
My hero . did they looked like they move. Pray everyone. Poor princess.
thank god .. positve vibes
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They're being lowered down to the street now.
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I think falconista is right :'(
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They are on the ledge! Someone repelled down! I see the chicks, but I cannot tell...are they dead??? Oh...........
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The chicks have been taken away...
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:'( :'( :'( :'(
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Such a sad, sad day. Poor little guys. :'(
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come on now guys .Do not give up Believe in miracles.
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The chicks weren't moving and they were in a good sized puddle of water :'( bout ready to make my own puddle
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KEEP TELLING US WHATS GOING ON !
maybe they are just hypothermic?
positive thoughts guys.. positive thoughts.
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I am heartbroken.....but what a valient effort.
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I'd like to think it would be a positive outcome but the way they put the chicks into the bag doesn't really make me think they are still alive. If there was even a slight chance they were alive I'm sure some more care would have been taken rather than just plopping them into a bag. But who knows, maybe there was no time to be careful?
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I'm going to throw up and bawl all at the same time. Poor little sweeties. It's not fair. :'( :'( - After all the hardship this year, please don't let it end like this.
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they were floating in water flat, no movement at all, he just stuffed them in a knapsack, limp and lifeless. :( :(
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I know my stomach is churning and I have tears, but I am praying for a miracle
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No matter what the outcome , thank god for people like Tracy and those fire fighters for believing in hope and believing in intervention..
I am so grateful for their compassion
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I am sure we will hear something official from Tracy shortly. :( :( :(
To try to stop crying and get a grip on myself
Now already I am thinking,,,,,,,,,,if the chicks truly have not made it, will trey and princess try again? Is it too late in the year?
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Yes, we certainly owe them a big thank you for all they did.
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I know my stomach is churning and I have tears, but I am praying for a miracle
I'm praying for one too....but I think we've lost them...I could tell the rescuer was communicating the situation to Tracy...because there didn't appear to be much urgency at that point....WE can hope for a miracle that they are just hypothermic.....I am just feeling so sick right now...
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THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? HOLY COW... !
AND WHERE DID WE SUDDENLY GET SO MANY PEOPLE/GUESTS ON THIS FORUM?
WOW.. WORD SPREADS FAST..
I'M WITH EVERYONE ELSE.. SICK ... SO SAD..
KEEP POSTING FOR THOSE OF US WHO CANNOT SEE.
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was that a fireman that rappeled down the hotel side\? wow.
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Not sure if it was fireman or not.
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I'm not sure if it was a firefighter or if they were just in heavy duty rain gear.
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Damn drain pipes ..I know they have nested on a ledge before and had to worry about wind and the elements but this is just cruel.
Princess sure did her best but I am remaining hopeful becasue it just feels right to do. we have seen many miracles this year. even one miracle here would be nice.
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What a valiant effort by Tracy and her team....you just know they are more heart broken than we are...Thank goodness for this forum and all you guys....can you imagine watching this all alone?!!
Thank you Tracy and team....you risked life and limb...but I know you all thought it was worth it...
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Princess and Trey must be devastated, wonder where she flew to? and if she knew all was not okay with her babies. I am glad we did not have sound this morning guys, bad enough to watch but to have heard........... oh my.
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I can't work I'm going home to cry.
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Indeed hats off to Tracy and the team for the valient efforts!!!!!
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the cam is not pointed on the ledge anymore, it is pointed at the street. We are just chatting here. Nothing more to see or report on , just our thoughts and feelings and share in our grief. :( :(
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they did say fire department with Tracy and they do have the most experience.
I know they were limp but maybe just cold .
I know I am clinging to something I should not but that is me
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I'm with you all.... so very heartrending. I'm praying and hoping and believing in a miracle. Please let them just be stressed and survive this ordeal!!!! Whoever rappelled down that building you are our hero!!!!!!!
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In a way I wish they would turn the cam off, makes me sick, but they are probably keeping it on to see if they can spot Princess or Trey.
Heartwrenching indeed. And yes sometimes miracles do happen let's hope for one today.
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would be nice to know where the parents are right now. Larry if you see them perched can you try to give us a peek? Thanks so much for allowing us to see, painful as it was, appreciate the rescue and giving us a front row seat. Very grateful to Tracy and all the team for everything.
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Yeah it's kind of depressing staring at the traffic...
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I am hoping that the chicks will be ok, but I think we need to remember that we are truly lucky that we have the opportunity to see into their world and sometimes things happen that we have no control over. Thank you to Tracey for her commitment to this project and for giving us the opportunity to experience the good and the bad.
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I am hoping that the chicks will be ok, but I think we need to remember that we are truly lucky that we have the opportunity to see into their world and sometimes things happen that we have no control over. Thank you to Tracey for her commitment to this project and for giving us the opportunity to experience the good and the bad.
Well said Mardyn.
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We jsut had eggs here on May 22 and May 25 so never say never.
I have to go out but I will keep a good thought here
I know some of you have been very loyal to this site and I am so sorry for you . Un frotunately I have been tied up the last few weeks but as I said never say never.
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I'm with you all.... so very heartrending. I'm praying and hoping and believing in a miracle. Please let them just be stressed and survive this ordeal!!!! Whoever rappelled down that building you are our hero!!!!!!!
I am going to wait for the official word from Tracy...and miracles do happen...but I have seen enough nest tragedy this year that I'm not going to fool myself this time...of course...I hope to be able to eat those words later....
I did record the rescue...but haven't processed it yet...I just don't think I am ready to watch it....
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Thanks skygirl. I'm sure there will be others who will want to see it for themselves.
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Here are some of the details from the Winnipeg Free Press Website update:
Falcon chicks rescued from ledge
Peregrines' nesting area flooded following heavy rains
Updated: June 6 at 11:07 AM CDT
A specially trained Winnipeg firefighter was lowered down from the roof of the Radisson Hotel to try and save three Peregrine falcon chicks that faced drowning on a 13th-storey ledge.
The rescue technician rappelled down from the roof to the ledge to take three chicks down to the ground.
It's not known if the chicks are still alive.
The ledge that houses the nesting area of a family of falcons has partially filled with water following the deluge this morning.
A blog entry by Tracy, the longtime co-ordinator of Manitoba's Peregrine Falcon Recovery Project, indicates a rescue is under way at the Radisson, which includes help from Manitoba Conservation.
A remote-controlled "falcon cam" that points at the gravel-covered ledge from an angle about one storey higher is hosted by CBC.
The falcon cam shows one soaked bird covering its chicks, which are less than two weeks old.
The falcon pair had four eggs earlier in the spring, and three hatched on May 28.
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Keep me posted Sky. I am already late for my appointment and I may just lose it if I stay much longer. I have a prayer in .
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Princess is sitting on top of the domed building - looks like she is trying to dry out, spending a lot of time moving her wings around......
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Oh my God, Oh my God!
I leave for twenty minutes and look what happens. I'm so heartbroken to think that our chicks are gone.
We'll keep positive thoughts.... Thank you for the news everyone.
And truly, Thank you Tracy & Team for your efforts.
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Let's keep praying and keep our fingers crossed...
Thanks Tracy and everyone for caring so much !!
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Life is a gift that must be given back
and joy should arise from its possession.
It's too damned short, and that's a fact.
Hard to accept, this earthly procession
to final darkness is a journey done,
circle completed, work of art sublime,
a sweet melodic rhyme, a battle won.
Storms do not respond to heartless pleas.
All the words of men can't calm the seas.
Nature--always beneficial and cruel--
won't change for a wise man or a fool.
Dean Koontz, the book of counted sorrows.
the depths of human compassion for our animal friends continues to encourage me to see the GOOD in every living thing, man or beast.
A sad, sad day.
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Thank you for your sweet post Loriann.
That is a real beautiful poem.
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thanks.. all credit to author Dean Koontz.. the book of counted sorrows.
so sad..
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Princess has flown from the domed building, don't see her from my vantage point now.....
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It's amazing how three tiny creatures could have such a profound impact on so many lives during their short time on Earth.
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Leaves tumble to the ground
the snow begins to etch
pathes in the sky
Another death in the
making
a time to let go of
a love that can never be
fulfilled
and a love that itself
will never die
Another leaf
another tear
another heartache
another step towards
the door
another
goodbye.....
I wrote this poem 9 years ago and it sums up how I feel right now and no doubt the many other people who have watched the events of the last few weeks and including today.
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Watching the cam closely I think I see both Princess and Trey. One is flying from the domed building to a street lamp and the other is flying from the building across the street to a street lamp as well. Can't be certain that it's them from all the distortion (rain, distance). But it seems logical.
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Sadly, CBC Winnipeg news at 11:30 CDT just reported that the 3 chicks were rescued but did not survive the wet conditions.
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I feel bad for Tracy and all who look after those living creatures.
I hope that all turns for the best, wishing Princess & Trey well.
I watched this pair last year and enjoyed every minute of it. I started again this year about a week ago when the cam was actually operating.
This 2008 year has been really bad for many bird nests. Bald Eagles, Ospreys and now Peregrine Falcons have suffered losses.
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It's a very very sad day today, with everything going on (weather, winds etc...) they weren't lucky at all.
May they rest in peace !! :'( :'(
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:'(
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I think this is so terrible what has happend. I was thinking last night how big they were getting, it's just not fair. The rain for today had been forcasted for awhile and we knew it was going to last awhile, perhaps next time if they nest on the ledge again, a closer eye should be kept on the weather and quicker action plan should be in place to prevent this tragedy from happening again. Don't get me wrong, the rescue effort was great, just a little too late. :'(
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I still have not left but.....
Beautiful poem.
I think constantly about how through these cams we have bridged many world wide connections. we all share the same passion and compassion of nature and these wonderful raptors. We laugh together and cry together world-wide. Our compassion went out to the Netherlands last year and we all banded together. A great support system has developed for the treatment of 3 eaglets in the USA. donations are coming in world wide.
If through nature we can all come together, what is the matter with our politicians.
And on that note I must run.
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What an awful, sad day.
Those poor, poor chicks. I'm so heartbroken (as I imagine everyone is)... I just don't know what to say.
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Perhaps now is the time for us all to think about this.
http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/estore/pfrp/s-edonations.html
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Oh my, this is so sad
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I am so grateful Tracy and the firefighters for your brave attempts to try and rescue the chicks. they were just too small ,I guess and had no body heat of their own yet.
I will check back in.
thank-you everyone for being in here today to keep us all company.
i am at a loss for words right now and that never happens.
:'( :'(
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I almost wish I hadn't registered the other day. I wouldn't be feeling this pain right now.
Jim Wilhelm
Albuquerque, NM USA
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This was just posted by WFP:
Kyle Schmidt, 25, clad in red and wearing a protective helmet, was lowered to the ledge, and, once the mother falcon hopped out of the way, place the chicks one by one in a bag.
He was then lowered to street level.
"The mama bird was sitting there on the ledge, but when she realized I was there to help she moved over and spoke a few words to me," said Schmidt afterwards.
Schmidt said he spoke softly to the chicks as they made their way down.
"I told them not to worry ...they were keeping quiet on the way down," he said.
There is nothing about them being gone.....lets keep the hope alive!!
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Winnipeg falcon chicks die, despite fire department rescue attempt
Last Updated: Friday, June 6, 2008 | 11:33 AM CT
CBC News
A firefighter prepares to pick up the three white peregrine falcon chicks as an adult falcon looks on. (CBC)Three peregrine falcons chicks hatched on a downtown Winnipeg hotel late last month have died, despite a dramatic rescue attempt by Winnipeg's fire department Friday morning.
Dozens of people from around the world who had been watching the progress of the three chicks via a webcam — dubbed the Falcon Cam — called CBC Manitoba and the Peregrine Falcon Recovery Project on Friday to report the birds appeared to be having trouble coping with water accumulating from the heavy rain.
The Falcon Cam showed one sodden adult bird — likely the female, dubbed Princess — trying to shelter the nine-day-old chicks on the Radisson Hotel's 13th-storey ledge, which appeared to contain several centimetres of water.
Environment Canada issued a rainfall warning for the Red River Valley, including Winnipeg, on Friday morning. More than 35 millimetres had fallen on downtown Winnipeg by 10 a.m.; as much as 70 millimetres were expected.
A firefighter rappelled down from the Radisson Hotel's roof around 11 a.m. Friday, startling the adult bird off the chicks. She sat on a nearby ledge and watched, squawking angrily, as the firefighter tucked the three tiny, white chicks into a knapsack.
The firefighter then brought the chicks to the ground; the plan had been to move them to a nestbox on the 30th floor of the building, where the adult pair raised chicks last year, in the hopes the parents would follow.
Pair produce peregrine brood
An adult falcon shelters its chicks on the top corner of the 13th-floor ledge at the Radisson Hotel. (CBC)Since 1989, various pairs of the peregrine falcons have been nesting on the downtown hotel.
The nesting pair this year are Trey, hatched on the Radisson in 1996, and Princess, hatched in Minneapolis in 2002. They have produced 13 young — three of which are known to have survived — in addition to the three that were in the nest.
This year, Princess and Trey produced four eggs, but one was removed by the parents early in incubation, after it was either damaged by a snowstorm or infertile. The other three eggs hatched May 28; the chicks had not yet been named.
Peregrine falcons were close to extinction in the U.S. by the 1960s, and in Canada east of the Rockies in the 1970s. The pair that nested at the hotel in 1989 was the first confirmed peregrine nesting in Manitoba since the mid-1900s.
In Canada and the United States, it is illegal to kill peregrines or disrupt their nests.
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I just don't know what to say either...such a sad and tragic day. Cams give us a window into the beautiful and wonderful lives of nature...and in this case, these magnificient falcons. And while we frequently rejoice in the joys and pleasures these cams bring us, we also are privy to the hardships and tragedies equally endured. We are both blessed and cursed to be a visitor into this world. And while I am heartsick at this moment, I am thankful that we have the honor and privilege to be a part of their lives...albeit from afar. Princess and Trey will recover much quicker than we will...but I am sure they will both grieve over the loss of their chicks...
Rest in peace, little ones....you brought us joy in your short lives.... :'(
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Just like Bev I have been at a loss for words, and that rarely happens for me too as I am sure many of you have noticed from the forum this week. It's because we all have invested our time and hearts with these beautiful birds that we all feel such a devasting loss. I have not felt like this in a long long time. Some people would call me crazy for crying over the loss of these chicks, but when you have watched their entrance into this world you do become invested. Sadly the chicks were still so young and vulnerable to the elements. Princess' valient effort attests to their determination to see through the process of raising the next generations of this species.
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My sincerest condolences to Tracy, CBC and the Radisson Hotel for your loss. Judging by how I and everyone is feeling right now, you must be feeling doubly so.
I'm so sorry and so sad.
Stormy
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Oh my, this is so sad
:-[ :-[
I am so grateful Tracy and the firefighters for your brave attempts to try and rescue the chicks. they were just too small ,I guess and had no body heat of their own yet.
I will check back in.
thank-you everyone for being in here today to keep us all company.
i am at a loss for words right now and that never happens.
:'( :'(
I also wish to express my sincere thanks to all involved in this attempt.
Perhaps this spot on the building should be bird proof.
Installing a screen to prevent future use of that particular ledge for nesting spot.
Isn't there a bird nesting box installed somewhere on that building to encourage the birds to nest
in a safe dry and shaded place?
Bye ... until next time.
I can only hope that they have another clutch. It has been seen before.
(Norfolk Botanical Garden, Bald Eagle pair had 2 eggs, lost them, laid 2 more eggs and lost again.
Another egg was later laid and hatched.)
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I would like to second that ( what stormy just said )
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...well, it is all very sad...i remember the shock and sadness of watching that one chick flop out of the nest box last year, but, veryveryangry, sometimes there really isn't anyone to blame, not tracy, her team, or even the peregrines; it would have been nice, water-wise, if the birds had selected one of the other nest sites, but then we might have lost the chicks to the wind earlier this week, and last week - remember how they were being tossed around? Sadly, very often these things Just Happen. It really is too bad, but does anybody know if it is too late in the season for the peregrines to try again?
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I don't know about the rest of you...but this has really worn me out...both physically and emotioinally...
It will take a while to upload the video....I had to do some editing or it would have been way too long... I'll send the link to Tracy and she can determine what to do with it....of course, they may have been recording as well...
WHEW....
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oh for sure I am sitting here in a puddle of tears.
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I'm home now, just couldn't handle the stress and upset from work anymore. :'( Was praying all the way home on the bus that some miracle would happen - but it seems not. So very sad. Thank you Tracy for your enormous efforts to share this whole wonderful (and tragic, but we have to accept that's nature) experience with us. I think it'll take a while for all of us to recover, we all feel for you and your wonderful team also. Hugs......
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To Tracy and the team, a big heartfelt thank-you for all you do and have done and the rescue efforts. It's people like you that give species like the Falcons hope for the future.
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I see Tracy is online. My heart goes out to you Tracy
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Hi Gang,
Will be back to post and answer questions later, unfortunately, still have some more work to do today with the birds.
Thank you all for you concern and condolences. Everyone who helped out with the rescue deserves more thanks than I can possibly give.
Tracy
The Peregrine Chick
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This is my first blog. Just wanted to say thank you to Tracy and all the team for the great job you do. Despite heroic efforts, nature had the last word. Death is a part of life that we have trouble accepting. All those lovely birds that helped feed this family were also part of that chain. It is life in the raw. I hope everyone learns to live life to the fullest while we have it within our grasp. Good luck to the team and to Princess and Trey.
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Please try to remember that Princess, Trey and their offspring are WILD birds. They choose their nesting spots. We can offer up the best prepared spots, but it doesn't mean that their choice is the one that we think is perfect. Trying to predict where a wild bird is going to nest is a crap shoot. Princess and Trey could have chosen anywhere, not necessarily the Radisson.
Also, perigrine falcons are a protected species, it is illegal to kill one or to disturb their nests. Tracy and company have to get licenses etc. at banding time and I'm sure, even though this was an "emergency" a lot of hoops still had to be jumped through before they could arrange a rescue.
My sympathies to all who feel loss in this situation and my thanks to Tracy and company for all they have done for the birds and for us.
Please don't shut this site down. There is a lot of information and links to other peregrine nests.
Thank you,
Pat
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As I write this I am sobbing, and am utterly heartbroken. I can not explain how emotionally wrecked I am at this point in time. My heart soared with Princess and Trey when the hatchlings were born, and I became so emotionally invested in this whole process. To see this wonder of nature, this phenomenal parenting process, such incredible nurturing from these wild creatures end so tragically has left me so incredibly sad and distraught! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I think that we are truly blessed to live in such an amazing Province and City where people like Tracy and WFPS care enough to attempt the rescue this morning, no matter the outcome. Their actions and compassion and caring restores my faith in Mankind! :) I am sure that many hoops were jumped through to acheive that rescue this morning and everyone involved are true heros!!
Tracy, CBC, SHAW thank you all for making it possible for us worldwide to have the opportunity to view nature at its most joyful and most tragic.
The one thing I will come away from this with, is a much better understanding and caring about our Bird wildlife and all of those who are endangered and in need of protection and conservation. Not sure what else to say, I just need to grieve for a while :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I am so impressed with the attempted rescue. I hope they know how much we all love them for trying. I hope Tracy can keep us up to date on news about Princess and Trey.
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No need to say anything else Dwanny, that was really well written. I'm just wandering around in a daze feeling sick :'( :'( - I wonder if it's too late for the incredible dedicated Princess & Trey to try again this year? (Access to that nest location needs to be blocked off ..) Although this ended tragically, maybe there's a chance for them to start again. That's one ray of hope I'm keeping. Tracy might be able to fill us in on that stuff when she's able. :'(
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Hi everyone. I am just sick. Ran to the library to post this, and now the fre alamr is going off! See you later. :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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Oh my god! I just logged on to say hi to the chicks and discovered this horrible news. It is heart-wrenching..... :'(
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Very sad day for the Peregrine Family and the family of humans who have come to watch this webcam on a daily basis.
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As I write this I am sobbing, and am utterly heartbroken. I can not explain how emotionally wrecked I am at this point in time. My heart soared with Princess and Trey when the hatchlings were born, and I became so emotionally invested in this whole process. To see this wonder of nature, this phenomenal parenting process, such incredible nurturing from these wild creatures end so tragically has left me so incredibly sad and distraught! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I think that we are truly blessed to live in such an amazing Province and City where people like Tracy and WFPS care enough to attempt the rescue this morning, no matter the outcome. Their actions and compassion and caring restores my faith in Mankind! :) I am sure that many hoops were jumped through to acheive that rescue this morning and everyone involved are true heros!!
Tracy, CBC, SHAW thank you all for making it possible for us worldwide to have the opportunity to view nature at its most joyful and most tragic.
The one thing I will come away from this with, is a much better understanding and caring about our Bird wildlife and all of those who are endangered and in need of protection and conservation. Not sure what else to say, I just need to grieve for a while :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Nicely put....thank you...
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OH! What a shocking way to find out Enraptured! - But the bright side is that you were lucky to be spared the agony of watching & waiting as the rain poured down, the water rose more and more, the nestbox flooded and a completely drenched Princess never moved off those chicks. It's been a horrid morning, very exhausting and sad. This forum has been really helpful knowing there are so many people out there feeling the exact same grief. :'( :'( :'(
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Here is a little slideshow I made with the 20 captures I have from the beginning of my viewing this cam:
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/Aline5033/Radisson%20Peregrine%20Falcons%202008/?albumview=slideshow (http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/Aline5033/Radisson%20Peregrine%20Falcons%202008/?albumview=slideshow)
Hope you will like it.
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CBC Manitoba has updated the main Falcon Cam page...
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/falcon/index.html
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Here is a little slideshow I made with the 20 captures I have from the beginning of my viewing this cam:
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/Aline5033/Radisson%20Peregrine%20Falcons%202008/?albumview=slideshow (http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/Aline5033/Radisson%20Peregrine%20Falcons%202008/?albumview=slideshow)
Hope you will like it.
Thank you very much for doing that...
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OH! What a shocking way to find out Enraptured! - But the bright side is that you were lucky to be spared the agony of watching & waiting as the rain poured down, the water rose more and more, the nestbox flooded and a completely drenched Princess never moved off those chicks. It's been a horrid morning, very exhausting and sad. This forum has been really helpful knowing there are so many people out there feeling the exact same grief. :'( :'( :'(
All very true, Ballywing. I just read through all the posts of the morning and I'm glad everyone had eachother to share the shock, hopes, prayer, and eventual tragedy. I will greatly miss this little community and our love and enjoyment of Princess, Trey and their chicks. It has been a privilege to have looked in on and spend so much time watching them and encouraging them along during the past few weeks.
My heart and thoughts go out to all, but especially to Tracy and all the team who work so hard on top of their daily jobs to care for, protect, and increase the Peregrine population, and of course, bring us the view into the Peregrine world. It warms my heart to know that so many were motivated to rescue the chicks and that the fire department and all involved put in such a great effort. Thanks to all.
I'll check in later and catch up again with all of us as we deal with such a sad loss and hopefully celebrate, too, some of the lovely moments we've had with the chicks and Princess and Trey.
Bye for now, with a heavy heart, all the best to everyone as we come to terms with our loss. I really hope Princess and Trey are okay. What a sad and shocking turn of events for them ... :'( I wonder if Princess knew the state of the chicks or if she'll see the rescue attempt as the turning point?... My heart goes out to her and Trey, and well, everyone involved.
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I'm so saddened that the chicks did not survive. Any chance that Trey and Princess will re-nest and try again or is it too late for this year?
Question regarding their migration:
Trey did not show up in Winnipeg until a couple of weeks after Princess this year. Does that mean that they migrate to different spots south and then meet back again in the spring? I'm amazed at how they know their way back to the same place after travelling thousands of miles.
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Am inconsolably sad, but also encouraged to know there are others to whom this family meant so much. In today's world where so many of us are pretty much cut off from nature, it was such a privilege to be able to observe birds just doing what they do.
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I was wondering the same thing...
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Emeraldeyes, you make an apt point about so many being cut off from nature. Some people have no interest in nature, some of love nature. I can only speak for myself as someone having loved nature for 30 years and understanding that Mother Nature does truly have the final word in matters concerning nature it still deeply saddens my heart to have witnessed this. However I am equally glad to know that there are other people who have invested just as much of their own personal lives in watching this webcam feel the same way I do. It gives me hope that there are still many who care about Mother Nature and still feel the loss personally while the many who could care less go about their busy hectic crazy lives not giving a rat's you know what about our feathered friends.
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Many of us are wondering that very thought and we won't know until Tracy is able to provide an answer. No doubt she is inendated with stuff today and is feeling just as raw about all of this if not more so than any of us because of all the time she has invested to this project. She and the team have an up close an personal investment in this project.
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I am back and still am crying. Eagle 63, I know you had a lot invested in this as I do in my site in Edmonton. I watched with love as the chicks were born. I recorded with scapes and I was so honored to watch as princess helped that third chick out in the afternoon. I have been watching many cams for a few years now and had never seen the female help like that. that picture will become Part of my collection
As devastated as I am and I am sure you and many others are, today I felt a sense of Hope.
With so many people here and watching and the dedication of CBC and Tracy and the firefighters. It gave me hope that these beautiful birds and others like them will always be protected . They can't help but not be with so many of us.
My husband warned me a few years ago that I must be able to share the joy but the many sadnesses that will come with the viewing of nature.
i am very faint of heart but I have learned that with tragedy comes something to be learned.
We learned today how dedicated a falcon is to its young. Princess tried so hard and she trusted the firefighter to take her chicks. she is one heck of a falcon. some were wondering where the male was, but he knew that his princess could keep them warmer than him.
they may lay another clutch . we here in Edmonton have eggs just laid May 22 and 25th.
But if they do not they will be back and hopefully nest in the nest box
I will keep checking in on this site. I have been busy since the hatching but I will hope for another go at it.
so my friends let us think of the joy those little ones brought us. fly Free my young ones. Be at peace
Your falcon Friend
Bev.
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Pat, thank you for reminding folks that these are wild peregrines and that all we (the Projects and all their fans) can do is support their nesting efforts.
And no worries, the forum, the blog, the Project website and the Falcon Cam site will remain active for a long time yet. There is a possibility that the birds might re-nest, but only time will tell. And given what they have been through so far this year, can any of us blame them if they decided to call it a year?
the Chick
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I'm in utter agreement with everyone.... I am sitting here teary-eyed. I was out of the office since 10 local time this morning and came right home to check on them and find the headline that the chicks didn't make it. :'( I'm so sad... we watched these chicks since they were in their eggs. :'(
I do hope Princess and Trey can try again this year.
Like everyone else has said, much thanks to Tracy and our Fire Department for the effort!
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"Pat, thank you for reminding folks that these are wild peregrines and that all we (the Projects and all their fans) can do is support their nesting efforts.
And no worries, the forum, the blog, the Project website and the Falcon Cam site will remain active for a long time yet. There is a possibility that the birds might re-nest, but only time will tell. And given what they have been through so far this year, can any of us blame them if they decided to call it a year?
the Chick"
This is what Tracy posted in the Wild Birds Thread. Just thought I would post it here given the question was initially asked in this thread.
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I'm so saddened that the chicks did not survive. Any chance that Trey and Princess will re-nest and try again or is it too late for this year?
It isn't too late for a re-nest, I think we have had one, maybe two, re-nests that were this late, but I don't remember exactly. Trey and Princess have expended alot of their energy and stored resources on producing eggs, incubating and now brooding. I think at this point it will be a question of do they feel they have enough resources to try again and do they think there is enough time left in the breeding season to do so.
Question regarding their migration:
Trey did not show up in Winnipeg until a couple of weeks after Princess this year. Does that mean that they migrate to different spots south and then meet back again in the spring? I'm amazed at how they know their way back to the same place after travelling thousands of miles.
When we get reports of our birds down south, it is individual reports so I can't say for sure that they some of our birds haven't travelled together all or part of the way to wherever they go in a particular year. What I can say is that all our birds disappear at different times - usually chicks first and then the adults. With this pair, usually Trey leaves last. As to when they will leave this year, couldn't say. They may re-nest or not. If they don't, this is still their territory and usually the resident pair (both or just one) will continue to occupy the site until the end of the season.
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I got the note this morning as we all did from Tracy, and was all day traveling. It wasn't until I just now got home I could log on and find out what was happening. I am, along with all of you, devastated. I am also profoundly thankful for all the efforts that were made to save the chicks. In some ways, I think it was a blessing I didn't have to live through it as many of you all did. :'(
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I posted this in another thread but we just had our eggs on May 22 and May 25, so never say never.
Our transmitter female in Edmonton who no longer has the nest box(it was taken over) migrates to south America every year and it is amazing that these birds follow the same path there and back within 100 km. Truly remarkable species.
so cross your fingers everyone.
anyone living in Winnipeg ,if you see the pair please let us know.
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I just thought I would check in to see how everyone is doing...I have just finished reading all the posts on the other threads and I think its fairly safe to say that this has been a very traumatic day for all of us who have been following this family.
I have to just say to all of you, thank you all for the compassion, the support, and the sharing of raw emotion during this tragic time. This could easily have been a time for bitterness, anger and finger pointing...but it wasn't..and that is a testament to the love we all have for nature and these beautiful birds, as well as the respect we have for each other and for Tracy and her team. I do believe both birds and humans did the very best they could given these unfortunate combination of circumstances.
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Here is a link to the Winnipeg Free Press picture of the rescue attempt. It has Princess and Kyle Schmidt, the firefighter who went out to try to rescue the chicks, but the ledge hides the chicks. That's what I want to remember, all who cared, not the bodies. Anyway, if this is what you want to remember also, here is the link.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/ips_rich_content/59-falcon.jpg
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SKypilot what a wonderful idea to put a link to a picture that speaks volumes of today's events from a different perspective to yes remember the heroic efforts of Kyle Schmit and the Team tried to do today. Thank-you skypilot
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Okay, I've finally finished, after 1.5 hours, reading thru everything posted today. And I know I'm repeating others, but here goes...
First of all, the rain was coming down in torrents this morning at 8 am went I went to work. The streets were already filling up because it was coming down so hard and so fast that the storm drains couldn't keep up. So to those who complain about the drain on the ledge not doing its job and it should be working better ----phht! By 1 pm, we had had 43.6 mm of rain downtown. That is not anything Tracy and the gang could had predicted, for Pete's sake!
I was in a meeting from 10 til almost noon. If I'd been at my desk, I would have seen what was happening at the hotel. And I have every second Friday off, but this wasn't it. If I'd been home when Tracy sent the message to us that they were attempting a rescue, I would have thrown on my clothes and gone to watch from the street. As it was, I found out when I got back to my desk and listened to the noon news. What a shock!!! But I'm glad I found out that way instead of not knowing until I got home at 5:30. I tried to join in from the library (one block from the hotel), but as soon as the page loaded the fire alarm went off and we had to evacuate. I am SO glad, in retrospect, that I wasn't watching the feed or following the chat. And I want all of you who were, and who posted despite the stress, to know that my heart goes out to you. It must have been just horrendous to be sitting there helpless and feeling sick. (Big hugs all around)
As for making the ledge unavailable, Tracy was interviewed on CBC in the afternoon. I too thought it was a wonderful idea. But she said it's not just where they nest sometimes -- they use it for hunting, mating, resting.... If they make it unreachable they don't just make it nest-less, they change the entire environment for P&T. So, not really a good option.
Last (until I think some more, of course), I want to thank Tracy, Larry, the Radisson staff, the CBC staff, and Kyle Schmidt from Winnipeg Fire Rescue who did the rapelling and tried to save our babies. We, who are here all the time in the chat, know you did your best and that we can't control Mother Nature much as we'd like to, and none of us are angry with you. And to heck with those who are. Or, as it was said, feel sorry for their empty little lives (my spin on the nice though that was actually written).
At least we all have each other to share the grief with. Thank goodness, cuz a few of the people at work thought I was nuts when I started crying at the news! (phht to them too.) Those of us that live here still have P&T to watch fly around for the summer. And with any luck, they'll try again. In that beautiful nestbox that was so lovingly and caringly provided for them.
Love to all my fellow Phanatics. Hope you can sleep tonight. And rest peacefully, our Littles Ones.
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It's a beautiful picture, skypilot. Thanks for that. Look at mum being so trusting of him. Amazing.
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Well said.. and seconded by me..
Now i'm going to give my parrot a hug, play with the dog, feed the turtles, and try to find some solace in the company of my pets and family.
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Well said, Skygirlblue.
I've just come back home as well, and viewed the article and video as I discovered the sad events this morning after they'd just happened. Seeing the little photo in the article of an absolutely drenched Princess broke my efforts all day today to rationally think of it as nature taking its course and the amazing resuce attempt, but emotions truly prevailed to see Princess like that and then to watch her stay close while the fireman worked. My heart still breaks, but reading everyone's words of wisdom, comfort, positive outlook, etc., really does show how much compassion, support, and love everyone has and has shared with each other today. To me, that's a positive, as was the rescue attempt and the valiant fight Princess and Trey put in throughout all sorts of terrible weather.
I hope enough good thoughts from all of us will somehow help P and T try again this year!
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Tracy, since the chicks were removed from the ledge has anyone from the team yourself or someone else seen P or T and what their behaviour has been since that time? I know bird don't react like we humans but they surely sense a loss or change in their routine?
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Just saw the picture, Skypilot -- really lovely to see that moment. Princess' strength and patience speaks volumes. She is an amazing mum.
Thanks, Liz, for filling in some info on Tracy's interview this afternoon. We didn't get it here (at least not that I know of ) seeing as Manitoba is not our region.
I will always remember the chicks making their little teepee and that wonderful moment when the third egg hatched and Princess helped! :)
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I did see both Trey and Princess briefly before I left the Hotel late this afternoon. Both were wet, subdued, and not on the nest ledge. I will be back downtown tomorrow morning to see what I can see and Larry is going to help me re-establish our connection to the spy-cam so that I have a view from higher up.
I will post what I see here tomorrow.
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I have been watching your beautiful little ones for the past week and I too was devestated today as I have had the web cam up at work on my desk top every day while I work. I just registered a few minutes ago so I could post here and share the grief with all of you. I am located in Etobicoke, Ontario and we have a pair of falcons on our building and their 3 little ones will be flying any day now and I had hoped the same for your little guys.
Has anyone seen Princess or Trey since it happened? I know it sounds silly but I am worried about them. Watching Princess today sitting on those poor babies right until the end just broke my heart and when I saw how calm she was when the rescuer arrived I knew it wasn't good and I expect she probably knew otherwise she'd have raised heck.
It has been a real learning experience for me this year watching all these beautiful falcons online - the way they love, nurture and protect their children is such an awe inspiring thing to watch.
It's been a pleasure to read all the nice posts here today and to everyone who worked so hard to rescue the babies - you are all wonderful people and I am so sorry that today's events had such a tragic ending.
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I'm so sorry about the loss of the chicks and I'm so grateful that so much effort was put into trying to rescue them. Even though it didn't work out, everyone, especially Tracy and Kyle, deserve to be commended. I haven't been able to bring myself to read through all of the Observations thread or to look at the cam feed (if it's still on), so I'm not sure if this has been answered, but it would make me feel better to know that both Princess and Trey are ok. Have there been any sightings of them?
Here's hoping for another clutch this year (but if not, I'll be back for sure next spring).
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I just realised someone asked this in another thread. Good to know. Thanks so much for everything, Tracy.
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No problem Ibis, glad you found the post ...
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I did see both Trey and Princess for a brief moment when the rain let up some just before I left the Hotel in the late afternoon. Neither one went to the nest ledge. I will be back at the Hotel tomorrow to see if I can spot them, and Larry is going to try to hook me back up to the spy-cam on the roof so that I can watch for them from another, higher angle.
Will let you all know what I see ....
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The one thing that sticks out in my mind amidst this tragedy in our Falcon family is that during the time when we all were waiting and watching was that the Webcam and the forum didn't crash with the deluge of people watching. I can't remember the numbers but I recall something like 80 people were viewing this forum this morning at one point.
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Thank you so much for the update. I was asking the same question in a post above at the same time this was probably being posted. I can't stop thinking about them and I'm glad they've been spotted and together as well.
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Thank-you Tracy for your prompt reply many of us have been wondering all day how the parents were and if they were still in the area.
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Now the other thing I am sure people are wondering is how you are holding up Tracy?
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I am glad you asked that eagle 63.
with everything happening I think we have forgotten the emotions that Tracy and others that work with her must be feeling.
Take care, get a good rest and know that you are applauded for your efforts and I am just greatful you are here to oversee everything. Last year was my first year watching this site and my first take was what a warm and caring person you were Tracy. always willing to inform and answer questions.
Take care
Beg hugs your way.
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QUOTE "At least we all have each other to share the grief with. Thank goodness, cuz a few of the people at work thought I was nuts when I started crying at the news!"
I soooo agree Liz - I actually had to leave work today due to extreme upset, I couldn't function at all - and it hit me that nobody in my office seemed to know anything about this...it was just business as usual. Nobody to talk to or share the ordeal with. I realized we have made a little world of our own here in the Falcon Cam Forum during the past couple of weeks and it was comforting to come home to all the 'gang' who feel the same way I do. Watching the eggs, the parents, the hatching, feedings, the fuzzy white butts , sharing the waiting, the humor, the excitements, the worries, checking the weather forcasts.......this became such a huge part of our lives in such a short time, it's really amazing. - I hope Princess & Trey somehow know how many people tried to help them and were praying for them today. Though I wouldn't blame them for being completely worn out after this season of challenges and heartbreak - maybe we can hold out a bit of hope that they'll try again. In the meantime I think there will be an emptiness in our hearts for a while. Hope everyone sleeps well, it's been such a draining day. Goodnight all..... :-\
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Very well said Bally,
QUOTE I realized we have made a little world of our own here in the Falcon Cam Forum during the past couple of weeks and it was comforting to come home to all the 'gang' who feel the same way I do. Watching the eggs, the parents, the hatching, feedings, the fuzzy white butts , sharing the waiting, the humor, the excitements, the worries, checking the weather forcasts.......this became such a huge part of our lives in such a short time, it's really amazing.
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I am numb. I can't really believe it yet.
I will miss those sweet young souls.
I had been planning to watch and video them as they grew...
If you want to see how far I got you can check out the uploaded videos on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/fingersfancy (http://www.youtube.com/user/fingersfancy)
Hugs all.
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Wow, Peggeratheart...what a great little gift! Thanks for posting your videos so we can remember and celebrate our little chicks and their short lives.
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Now the other thing I am sure people are wondering is how you are holding up Tracy?
How am I holding up? Today sucked. I have watched Trey since the day he hatched. He has come back to downtown since 1998 waiting to take over the territory and then in 2000, it was all his. I have watched him incubating, brooding, feeding, protecting and defending all of his chicks from everything that has ever been thrown at him. He is one of the charmers and he is a favourite of mine. Princess, though new, is a great peregrine and a great mother. Never had any worries about her knowing what to do and she wasn't quite 2 years old when she hooked up with Trey. I love when they return in the spring, I love watching them sleep and I love when they are chewing me out on the roof. And I can watch them fly for hours. Their chicks all have personalities and every year, I wait to hear if any of them are nesting somewhere. I know the risks these birds face every day of every year. And every year I hold my breath until they return, until they nest, until they hatch, until they fledge and until they migrate out in the Fall. And still I hold my breath just a bit longer just in case. And today just sucked. But tomorrow, tomorrow I will watch Trey fly ...
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Tracy, I can appreciate what you mean when you say,
And still I hold my breath just a bit longer just in case. And today just sucked. But tomorrow, tomorrow I will watch Trey fly ...
I've loved birds of all kinds but none more so than eagles, but any bird of prey has my fascination, birds in general simply for the fact that they have this amazing ability to migrate as far as they, then turn around 5 or 6 months later fly back to the very spot they left and do it all over again. Birds are resilent and even if Trey and Princess don't renest again this year, they will do it all over again next year, hopefully at the Radisson. My heart is with you Tracy.
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BIG HUG to you, T.
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ooppps my text is in the quote and I didn't intend that :-[
From the Peregrine Chick: no problem, all fixed.
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Tracy, that was an awesome description of what these birds mean to you. We all share your pain and hope that our caring comforts you some. Let us know when you see Trey fly!!!!!
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I know I haven't posted at all yet this year but was following the babies again.
Tracy, I am so very sorry for the day's events. Raising a few birds of my own I know the heartache you must be feeling. ((((((((Hugs))))
GNoeth
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T, what time are you going to be there tomorrow to look for Mum and Dad?
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Ladies & Gentlemen,
I apologize but it has been a long day and I done. I will post to the blog tomorrow, along with the one I missed from Thursday. Will be going out to check on Princess and Trey and anyone else I can find and will also post on them. I thank you all for your support and your concern and I wish you all a gentle rest tonight.
Tracy
The Peregrine Chick
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And the same to you Tracy, here's wishing you a restful night as well.
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T, what time are you going to be there tomorrow to look for Mum and Dad?
So long as nothing interferes, including the rain, I'll be there in the morning, 8-9 o'clock. Once I find them I don't know how long I will stay around though, I would like to check on the West Winnipeg birds and they are much more difficult to track down. So if I miss anyone that decides to come out, we can make a date of it in the near future. Okay?
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Coming to the end of a very sad day...Watched the rescue and a huge thank you to the Fire department and all involved with the recovery.heartbreaking to watch.Princess stayed with the babies till the end!!!!
thank you Tracy for giving us this opportunity to be part of the birth of the babes...I will miss not seeing them in the morning.You did what you could and you are to be commended for all the work you do.It sure speaks volumes for you.You mke the world a better place for all of us.
Take good Care....just great to see postings from people who care so very much.it really helped today reading the posts through tears.
bless you all
marie
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Tracy, your words and thoughts were poetic and touching. Again, my heart goes out to you.
Rest well tonight, and tomorrow watch Trey fly with a full heart (and the hearts all of us unable to be there to watch Trey fly, too)...
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So if I miss anyone that decides to come out, we can make a date of it in the near future. Okay?
Okey doke.
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Tracy:
Thanks for all you did and all you tried to do.
Art
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btw, it's still raining here. We have no control, folks. :'(
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I know the risks these birds face every day of every year. And every year I hold my breath until they return, until they nest, until they hatch, until they fledge and until they migrate out in the Fall. And still I hold my breath just a bit longer just in case. And today just sucked. But tomorrow, tomorrow I will watch Trey fly ...
To me, that says it all.....Thanks Tracy...
Hugs to all....
Good night....
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Tracy - beautifully said - today (really) sucked, tomorrow you will see Trey fly Our hearts were with you as we watched everything unfold from our office. Take care.
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Oh, Tracy. I am in tears reading your words. I know how you care for these falcons. I knew that form the moment i entered your blog last year. And I know exactly how you feel.
Sleep well and today sucked but tomorrow will bring new hope.
I will look out for Radisson and her offspring as much as I can
God bless you
Bev.
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I know that most people are exhausted and off for the night. I'm going soon too. But just thought that someone had to start this -- the next day. We are all so sad. Hope T&P try again.
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They will try again, if not this season next year. They are still young and it their productive years.
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I know that, eagle63. I meant, this year. Feeling hopeful!
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I think we are all hopeful, I know I am just have to wait and see, time will tell that story.
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Us both!
I know that when the rest of you get into this page in the morning, you'll have some other/new thoughts. And I know we're all sad. As I said yesterday, luv all the Phanatics. But can we all stick to this page, at least until there is a really different subject. Thanks.
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What a wonderful experience to have been part of..even though it ended sadly yesterday. Waiting to hear from Tracy ....concerned for Princess & Trey..hope she does see them
Great to see all the posts and CBC news..hopefully generating interest for the Project.I'm sure donations would be appreciated..something good coming from this tragedyand a way for all to express their loss.
A BIG thank you to Tracy and the team.Bless the firemen....a moment to consider the dangers they place themselves in for the good of others.A thank you to CBC as well for the interest they've taken in the Project.To sit in the comfort of your home and be so close to nature is awesome!!!!
Take good care Tracy
Marie
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Good morning everyone. My first thought as I woke this morning was to check on the chicks, because I always do, but then I remembered. But I must say it was such a consolation to log on to the forum and read your posts. I am still amazed at how 3 little 9 day old chicks touched so many lives. I've learned so much these past week from them, Trey and Princess ... and all of you. Thank you for these days!
I loved the post about how this morning Tracy will watch Trey soar ... there is such hope in that. Also wanted to share this link with you (hope it works - I'm new to this forum and not sure I can include link!) It is about Clarkson, a peregrine chick in Mississauga who recently fell from the nest at the St. Lawrence Cement plant. An employee was able to rescue and Clarkson is back with family.
http://mississauga.com/article/14887
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I just wanted to pop in and say good morning to all. I have much to do today...which is a blessing in its own right...my brain and emotions need a break after yesterday's intensity. Silly me did try and connect with the cam...hoping to get a glimpse of Trey or Princess...of course, I couldn't..but I knew that ahead of time...I guess old habits are hard to break. I look forward to Tracy's report..I do hope the weather is better there today and that she will be able to watch P & T soar and dive...I'm sure those 2 will spend the day regrouping and trying to sort out what occured yesterday..in their own falcon way.
Hope all of you have a great day...be kind to yourselves...I will check back in later today.
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""It is about Clarkson, a peregrine chick in Mississauga who recently fell from the nest at the St. Lawrence Cement plant. An employee was able to rescue and Clarkson is back with family. ""
If you go to the forum for 'other peregrine cams'' you will see that i too have been posting updates on Clarkson and the peregrines here in Mississauga.
Hope this morning finds everyone well... I know I thought about what happened yesterday most of the night, and was moved to tears again this morning reading Tracy's posts about watching Trey fly.
Take care everyone, and do something today that will make the world a better place for all our wildlife. Plant a tree, pick up trash, and remember the little birds that touched all of us while you do it.
I'm going up to see our babies here, and see if I can catch of sighting of one of our adults flying.. and think of Trey.
Lori.
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Good Morning all!
I can't believe how swollen my eyes are this windy, sunny morning in Manitoba. :'(
I like the rest, was at work watching the going on. The people at my work are use to me talking about
the beloved chicks, they went through it last year with Hurricane, Chinook and of course little Missy (Mistral). My day was extremely sad, crying on and off. Checking and hoping. When I got home, I went back and read all the post. Tracy and crew, my heart breaks for you. You have a really hard job and do it extremely well. I have been posting day to day updates on my face book profile with links to the site. Hoping one or more of my friend will get to see the beautiful Peregrines and understand the fascination.
I'm so hoping Princess and Trey will try to have more little ones this year. But if not, I have 8 beautiful pictures of the them. Lots of memories and laughs and unfortunately sadness. To all I'm sure were are all in the same state. Hugs to all and let us continue to come here and comfort each other. To Kyle Schmidt thank you thank you thank you for repelling down the side of the building to save the beloved chicks, unfortunately just a little to late. Here's a big hug for you!
A brokenhearted Peregrine lover. :'( :'( :'(
Doreen
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For those who are not in Winnipeg here is a link to Sat. Free Press about the rescue.
It has links to pics and video.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/v-printerfriendly/story/4183274p-4773174c.html (http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/v-printerfriendly/story/4183274p-4773174c.html)
I Googled the news and even saw Reuters UK had picked up fridays story. From the video I think Princess knew Kyle was there to help.
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Yesterday, like so many of you, my heart was breaking. I was so devastated that I couldn't watch the news or read the forum; it just made me start to cry anew. As soon as I heard that something was wrong, I got onto the forum; only to find the bad news. As soon as I could, I checked out the other webcams that I have been keeping track of to make sure all the other nests were alright. I can't believe how attached we can get to these beautiful creatures and their daily lives. Being able to watch something like the webcams is far better than any television show, because it's REAL.
I am very grateful to everyone involved in bringing us the web cam and all those involved in the valiant efforts to save "our" babies. And, to all of you who could keep us working folk posted during the times we couldn't be there to see all the exciting moments taking place.
I will keep logging on to this forum to hear what others have to say about other webcams and happenings in their locales.
My heart goes out to all of you who are grieving along with me.
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After a somewhat difficult time getting to sleep, having some sleep, waking up to a new day I am still finding it difficult to express in writing what I am thinking and feeling. Reading through the posts many have expressed what we are all feeling and finding difficult to articulate. So many thoughts were going through my head in the wee hours of this morning that I couldn't get my braint to shut up long enough to fall asleep. One of the things that crossed my mind though was how simplistic Mother Nature truely is. Creatures besides humans are born ,eat sleep, breath, reproduce and yes die. Yet the creatures carry on much faster than we humans do. It's because of our emotions, souls, ability to think, reason and problem solve that life gets so complicated for us. Another thought that passed through the brain waves is what a roller coaster it has been for the Phanatics from the amazing opportunity witness one of Nature's special moments - the hatching of the 3 chicks all in one day. And then to heartwrenching events of yesterday. But in the grand scheme of things that's what life is, the up and downs. And as someone else said, it is rather amazing how 3 little chicks have had such an impact on people from such far reaching places in this country and this world. I feel blessed to have witnessed it all because like so many others not many get that kind of opportunity to be a witness to such an event, at such a precise moment online because it happens so quickly, much less in the wild.
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I just found this falcon cam last week. I am so sad to hear the youngsters died. I was just telling family on Thursday how I had watched the parents feeding a pigeon to the little fuzzies. I remember a day early in the week where the little ones were all nestling up to their parent and one of the babies had a wee or was it bowl? Anyways it was so random but amazing to watch these little critters.
I will miss checking the falcon cam every morning. Hamilton Ontario has a falcon cam as well but it only takes snapshots instead of being a live video stream. http://falcons.hamiltonnature.org/ The Winnipeg nest was much more fun to watch and the quality of video is great. I feel like the loss of these birds is very sad and I hope that Trey and Princess have another try for young ones this year.
Chey
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My day now feels so empty without being able to provide you all with play by plays.
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Oh I here you Eagle. I was just catching up on my reading, and suddenly came to the end and it was like, wow, normally would be a few pages of info by this time. So sad still.
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It is so sad about the chicks. I was so looking forward to watching them grow and fledge safely.
You can't blame anyone. It was mother nature.
The weather just has not been co-opeative this year.
With all that rain yesterday, there really was not much anyone could do. I do not think the chicks would have survived even if they had been left in the nest ledge.
It a very sad tragic ending.
I know this is a human response...but I keep wondering how Trey and Princess are. How do they handle this?
They are wonderful parents. I was watching the Minnesota web cam and those parents did not seem as attentive as Princess and Trey were. Just my observation.
I just hope they come back next year and lay eggs, incubate them and raise the chicks to a safe fledging.
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I am a loyal CBC new follower, but when something happens in Winnipeg, there is another good news website and that is CTV Winnipeg.
If you check out their site, you will also find a story on the rescue.
http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080606/wpg_falcon_dead_080606/20080607/?hub=WinnipegHome (http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080606/wpg_falcon_dead_080606/20080607/?hub=WinnipegHome)
In the features section (next to the story) you will find "Image gallery: daring rescue" as well as "CTV Live Eye". I will recommend both.
If you want to see what the Radisson looks like from top to bottom, the Live Eye will give you a good perspective. The person waiting at the bottom for the firefighter to touch ground is Tracy.
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I am a loyal CBC new follower, but when something happens in Winnipeg, there is another good news website and that is CTV Winnipeg.
If you check out their site, you will also find a story on the rescue.
http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080606/wpg_falcon_dead_080606/20080607/?hub=WinnipegHome (http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080606/wpg_falcon_dead_080606/20080607/?hub=WinnipegHome)
In the features section (next to the story) you will find "Image gallery: daring rescue" as well as "CTV Live Eye". I will recommend both.
If you want to see what the Radisson looks like from top to bottom, the Live Eye will give you a good perspective. The person waiting at the bottom for the firefighter to touch ground is Tracy.
wow what a great article and I watched the rescue and interview on the ctv player. Really well done. (You dont see anything bad) Excellent view of the Radisson and Kyle rappellling down the building. Nice interview with Tracy. She is one smart and dedicated lady. Thanks.
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WOW that is some amazing footage... and what a long way down !.
You get a true feeling of awe to see the firefighter rappelling down the side of the building.
Stupid me watching it, and STILL hoping its all been a big mistake and the babies are really okay... and that the outcome would be different.
Still so sad today.
Hope everyone is doing okay out there, and that Princess and Trey are feeling the love.
L.
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I have a busy weekend and can only stop in for a bit but I wanted to see how we are all doing. I have to be on the road until tomorrow night for my grandsons soccer tournament.
What a day and today seems sort of numb.
Someone else expressed once Eagle63 how nice it would be if humans could get on with things as quickly as our falcons and eagles do but....If it were not for our big hearts and emotions we would not be around to try and help these marvelous creatures of God when we can.
I have my own backyard birds that I feed and try and protect form the crows and magpies. but in my backyard every youngster(bird that is )is welcome
One year the magpie brought its little ones to my backyard in a heat wave as I have lots of shade and a waterfall and pond etc. I was glad to be able to be a part of that. they were there for 4 days.
I am sure that princess and Trey will be o.k.
How are we all storm wise. I hope you are over the worst of it. I think we are experiencing all over irregular storms that are probably going to be the norm.
Try and do something nice for yourselves today.
Bev.
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to think they were alive when he picked them up. Oh My! just brings tears all over. thank-you Tracy and Kyle for your efforts. I have said this so many times already but after seeing that it brings it home once more.
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well here I am. I think I must feel like how a druggie feels going thru detox. I am having withdrawal pains. So strange and sad to not be able to report on the chicks and read all the updates. Thinking about Tracy also. Hope you are alright Tracy.
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What an empty feeling today. I'm so unhappy, not having our babies to watch. :'( :'(
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Had lots of things that needed to get done today, but hung out at the Radisson instead. It was surreal. Yesterday was Black Friday and today was like a sunlit dream. I just posted to the Blog, so I won't repeat myself here ... except to say, today was a good day ...
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Ahh, a ray of light in an otherwise lousy day. Glad to read they were both there and Trey was doing his prep ritual. Fingers and toes crossed!
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Some silver lining in those clouds that have hung over this projest in the last 36 hours. Now to wait and see with abated breath.
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Tracy...just read your blog - and it was so truly hopeful. Loved it! I know you found some comfort in seeing both Trey and Princess today. Just have to wait and see what happens, right? :)
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Tracy I'm glad you had a good day!
I too am hopeful with Trey doing his scraping. Cute picture of Trey sleeping or trying to sleep. :)
Maybe just maybe light at the end of yesterday's long tunnel.
I'm also keeping toes and fingers crossed.
Doreen
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Talons and feathers crossed here lol
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Hi Tracy and everyone else ,
So please to hear you had a better day today !!!!!!!!!!!!and the picture of Trey is so cute .
Thanks for the update and fingers and Feather's crossed . ;)
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I commented on Tracy's blog today in that thread, so I won't repeat myself here, except to say that I agree with everyone and feel like my day of continuing to feel the loss of the chicks has definately ended well with Tracy's words and the photo of Trey. Such hope to hear he's scraping and Princess is close by! However things work out, I'm so glad they're out and about and doing well.
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Tracy...so happy to read your blog and you saw both P & T
could feel your sadness but giving hope at the same time...Thank you.
Dare we hope....sure we can!!!!
fingers & toes crossed here as well
Living in hope
Marie
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Well, it was with a bit of trepidation that I pulled up the forum. So depressing sitting here last night waiting to hear....... something. News. Yes I think we were all sitting in front of the screen worrying about Tracy and her teammates, how they were coping, and yes if anyone had seen Trey or Princess.
What a relief this morning to see all those orange colored posts. Then to notice the banner saying that Trey and Princess were still at the Radisson! It certainly was like a ray of sunshine in an otherwise gloomy forecast. I know I shouldn't humanize them, but its hard sometimes not to, not really knowing what peregrines, for that matter birds, think, feel, or if in fact they do or if its all instinct. Whether its an emotional reaction to tragedy or physcial (Tracy has stated that stress affects them physically), I felt and still do feel such empathy for Trey and Princess. Seeing Princess absolutely drenched on Friday, and when she flew off the ledge and down, I have not been able to stop worrying about her. Where was she? Was she okay? (Physically) Did the rain and cold cause her to become sick as well? Was she off somewheres sick and dying? Maybe in her weakened state she had become injured, had an accident. Where was Trey? Had he seen what happened? My mind has been going on like that. I thought perhaps that seeing her fly away when Kyle arrived the other day might be the last time I seen her. But now, now, knowing that Trey AND Princess are still at the Raddison, Princess perched on the sign, oh how glorious! Reading Tracy's blog, was heartwarming and sad and made me smile and cry all at the same time. Hope. Yes theres hope. Hope for these two wonderful birds who captured my heart with there silly antics and strength and stamina in the face of so much adversity. yes I think Trey and Princess are gong to be okay. The memory of there little ones will always live on in my heart. They will never be a statistic for any of us I know, there being here mattered.
I know I still sound really sad, and I am, but basically I feel that everything is also going to be alright. I am very grateful to Tracy for having such a wonderful forum for us to not only ask questions, but to be able to share our thoughts and know that I am not the only person to feel this way. Thanks everyone. Really. :)
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What a lovely post deedream!!!! Heartwarming...a beautiful start to a brand new day
thank you .Take good care
Marie
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Tracy - your blog for 'The Day After' is magical. Like Poetry. - I admit I felt a little resentment at the beautiful sunny day, 'Oh well thank you very much but it's too late for that!' type attitude....Was very busy all day, and by the end of the day was able to talk about 'Black Friday' without tearing up every 2 seconds. (Phew!)...After reading your blog late last night, it put a little ray of sunshine in my heart. It reads like a fairy tale. 'Princess & Trey defy all obstacles, challenges & tragedies and rise again.' :D ...Keep watch Tracy, we'll be waiting for news of our feathered friends.... :) :)
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Morning all.
Thank you Tracy for the update on Princess and Trey. It makes me feel slightly better that they are doing okay .. or as well as can be expected. They are tough.. and better at this than any of us.
I know they are 'just' birds, but in my experience animals grieve a loss, and are aware of the loss. They just handle it differently than we do. I hope that Princess and Trey deal with their loss in their own way and time, and if that includes a new nest, then wonderful.
I'm not sure any of us could handle the stress of a new clutch right now, we'd be even more emotionally tied to this one, but I think it would be a wonderful miracle if they did manage to pull off a new clutch of eggs.
Today, while still very sad, I have moved to a new feeling.. anger.. not at anyone or anything, but just at the unfairness of it all. I know life is not fair, but this still makes me mad. How unfair to lose life so early on... not fair at all. If there is a greater plan out there, I wish I understood the reasoning behind this..
Today has dawned sunny and hot (bloody hot, thank you ! 40 degrees + with the humidity) here in Mississauga, so perhaps a good day to wander over to our nest here and look for a glimpse of our adults here..that always makes me feel better to see them hunting in the grass...or soaring above their nest box. At dusk you often see both of them just gliding around.
Tracy, Larry , and all the other people so intimately involved with the birds, I hope you are all able to find some comfort in the posts here. I know I do, but the makers of mascara are making a profit this week because every time I log on here, I tear up and have to go fix my eyes... :'(
A good day to everyone...
Lori.
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Very nice post Deedream.
You said it very well.
I tried watching the web cam in Minnesota but it is not the same.
Princess, Trey and the chicks were like family (don't know how else to put it). It was just more personal watching them and pulling for them.
Friday was a very sad day and all of us in this forum will remember the little darlings forever.
Take care everyone.
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I believe you all have expressed our feelings for Trey and Princess as well as Tracy and the teams exactly on target.
I will continue to come here to watch for more news on our couple. I am so thrilled that you found them Tracy. I was hoping they would come back to the Radisson despite the loss they just had. Yes when I read your post the tears again began to flow for their(our) loss. But I thank the Lord they(Trey & Princess) are okay.
Thank You again Tracy for allowing us to be a part of this, the ups and the downs.
God Bless you in your dedication to the wonderful creatures.
Thank You also to everyone for sharing your thoughts.
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Good Morning all
Now even as I continue to read the post here, and yes continue to cry. I'm wondering what could be in store for us next! Tracy, if by some chance Princess and Trey have another clutch, when could the hatch date be? I'm not sure how long it takes to mate, and how long before the eggs come. Could she if she wanted to, have mated lets say yesterday( I know probably not) could she lay eggs in 2 weeks, 3 weeks a month? I really don't know, and if this were to happen then the chicks would be ready to fly in Aug or Sept instead of the usual Jul? It's usually still nice here in Sept so this could possibly be our next scenario right. Boy do I think to much! I'm smiling and hopeful at the chance to enjoy the family again this year.
Always hopeful and forever glad we have
a chance to watch these wonderful birds up close.
Doreen
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Good Morning Phanatics,
Yes it's still morning even here in Ontario in the blazing heat. I've just read through this thread that deedream started and thinking how beautifully written deedream's words are, "Yes I think we were all sitting in front of the screen worrying about Tracy and her teammates, how they were coping, and yes if anyone had seen Trey or Princess." I know I was. As I was saying to a couple of people in personal messages I don't how it is that this family in particular snuck into my heart and held on because I've watched other webcams and never gotten this attached emotionally. I think part of it is because having witnessed the hatching, something rarely seen by humans, and yet something so intimately precious. Was even going to write about my excitement at seeing such an event on my blog and call it magical moments. Then when Black Friday hit, it's because witnessing the birth, then the news of the death hit so hard. Moonstar touched on something I too felt, I checked in on the elk river chicks but it just wasn't the same. With each passing day I feel a bit better, my heart is still sad, but calmer on the outside. I know some people who know me in my life know how much I love birds but if they knew how I reacted to Black Friday they would think I've totally lost it for good this time. The few who actually knew totally understood, one friend even called yesterday to check on me. I feel like I've made some new friends through this forum, it feels like this forum has become like a extended family of the Peregrines, Princess and Trey and the 3 little angels. Doreen you touched on what I was thinking about asking Tracy before I even logged online today. I was wondering how long does it take for an egg to be produced after mating has taken place. In closing for this rambling post I must saying I am feeling more hopeful now having read Tracy's blog last night then I was feeling yesterday morning when I got up.
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Tracy - your blog for 'The Day After' is magical. Like Poetry. - I admit I felt a little resentment at the beautiful sunny day, 'Oh well thank you very much but it's too late for that!' type attitude....Was very busy all day, and by the end of the day was able to talk about 'Black Friday' without tearing up every 2 seconds. (Phew!)...After reading your blog late last night, it put a little ray of sunshine in my heart. :D...It reads like a fairy tale. 'Princess & Trey defy all obstacles, challenges & tragedies and rise again.' ...Keep watch Tracy, we'll be waiting for news of our feathered friends.... :) :)
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Oh !!! could it really be possible that Princess & Trey would mate soon??? How much of a long shot is it????...forever hopeful!!! Can't help myself from checking in ,but can't go to the web cam yet.After viewing the recue live,can't look at any pics.
So happy though to hear Princess & Trey were there.
Positive thinking now.
Marie
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The webcam has been offline since Black Friday. If Princess and Trey do try again I suspect the webcam will be brought back online. We humans such an ever hopeful bunch. I think if they do renest it will be largely due to instinct, that's what they do.
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Thanks for the wonderful opening thoughts, deedream. You pretty much hit the nail on the head for me.
There is still the sadness of not being able to go to the camera and see what's going on. I too woke up wondering about how long it takes for eggs to arrive; how long it will be before we know they're trying again. And altho I have also been watching the Elk River cam for a few weeks, it's just not quite the same thing.
I keep thinking about all T&P went thru to get those babies hatched -- being pelted by frozen rain, sitting surrounded by snow, etc. So sad they couldn't overcome this most recent vent from Mother Nature.
I'm still feeling pretty empty, but hopeful that they'll give it another shot this summer.
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Will the cam be running again if Trey and Princess chose to give it another go??????????
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More than likely. I can't speak for Tracy but I am betting she'd say yes lol
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with regards to P &T mating again......just wondering how much the trauma of losing the chicks would affect them and would they go to the nest instead of the ledge....Would the tendency be NOT to go to the ledge because of what happened...not trying to humanize the birds...just wondering about that with my very limited knowledge of falcons.
Forever hopeful
Marie
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I was wondering the same thing Marie!! - Are they able to 'learn' from past events, would instinct tell them NOT to go back there (I hope!!) - or would they just start over again on that same familiar ground. (I hope not!!) :'(
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hey guys, well correct me if I am mistaken, but didn't Tracy say somewheres that, Trey and Princess nested here on this very ledge in 2006?? and one died when fledging, (too close to ground this site is) and that they came back last year to the nice nest box on the 30 floor! She was so frustrated at them for choosing this site as it is so high risk (because of height in addition to no protection at all from the elements). Yet they did not want to interfere, well what were they going to do exactly, go climb up and move the eggs, then what, maybe Trey and Princess would abanden them.......... she explained it quite well somewheres. sorry I can't think where. It seems that I am learning that they just have to leave things alone as much as possible. She has joked about how she was mad at them for choosing this ledge again. Also they talked about it, and did not want to improve this site for them even after the 2006 nesting here, because,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it was too darn close to the ground, way too low, too much risk for the birds to perious when fledlging and to fix it up and improve it would only encourage them to nest there. They (hoped) crossed fingers toes everything, that they would NOT choose this site! But alas they did. Darn it all birds gonna do what a birds gonna do. So they didn't learn from before. Yet last year they chose the nest box. I thought well, maybe the birds know better than us. The nest box is on the west side. Maybe it is going to be so darn hot this summer that they figured , lets try the east side again! I dont know. lol. How I read Tracys blog yesterday was that Trey was in fact back at this exact same ledge yesterday, scraping, and doing his mating thing. I assumed that meant.........he was ready to mate again, and that this would be the nesting site again...... Man I hope i am wrong! But like you guys, curious as heck now! Hope she can enlighten us about this. Finally I really do think its all up to Princess dont you guys? We all know who wears the pants in that family, we seen it up close and personal. :)Thanks.
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Hi all,
I see I'm not the only one still trying to digest what's happened and what could happen from here. I really appreciate being able to read and respond with you all in this forum. I'm finding that a lot of what I thinking or feeling is already posted and reiterated by other members. Very comforting, in it's way! What a little community we've created. Have 3 peregrine chicks and their parents ever been so loved and missed?!
As I'm in BC time, my waiting for news yesterday was rewarded in the evening with Tracy's wonderful blog. I'd been hoping all day that she would see Trey and Princess. It was such a relief that she did and so poignant that Trey arrived, scraped, and that Princess was nearby, that it brought tears to my eyes and hope to my heart. Seeing all that yesterday, when it was so needed, couldn't have happened at a better time -- almost like it was meant for The Peregrine Chick! (rather sentimental, I know, but it's hard to deny they have a connection, tangible or not!)
I hope the scraping is a positive sign that Trey and Princess may just have the resources to give it another go, and not Trey's way of trying to 'grieve' or make sense of what he's lost. Leaning on the side of optimism, let's hope he and Princess know what a lovely prepared nestbox is waiting for them and if the ledge is the spot, then we'll all be cheering them on with hope in our hearts and awe at their resilience.
Whatever Trey and Princess 'decide' to do, my thoughts and heart are with them, my fingers and toes are crossed with all of you, and my thanks and admiration for Tracy and all that she does goes out to her.
And of course, continued thanks to all involved in Friday's efforts, as well as Larry and other volunteers, and CBC and Shaw. If Trey and Princess do have another clutch this season, I bet our bandwidth needs might increase!!! :)
Thanks for the 'community' everyone!
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Finally I really do think its all up to Princess dont you guys? We all know who wears the pants in that family, we seen it up close and personal. :)Thanks.
Oh Deedream! LOL! Thanks, I needed that! ;D
Your post twigged my memory and I just had a quick look and the post you're talking about is further along in Radisson Peregrines and is called Not a Great Nest Location??
P and T have alternated since 2005 it seems, so maybe they'll alternate now, if they're not tied into "one season here, one season there."
Still hoping they nest again, wherever they choose...
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Tracy's blog message was indeed hopeful, I replied there ,so i will not repeat myself. But as I read it i had a lump in my throat and tears in my eyes.
We have here in Edmonton one of the hatches from this same ledge in 2006.( the female) so although dangerous in our eyes, maybe not in theirs.
As I said somewhere before we cannot know what make s them make the decisions they do but we have to accept them.
I will keep my fingers crossed for them.
They may just be going through a grieving process now or re bonding.
It is nice to connect on these blogs with other people who feel as we do and have the passion for these raptors.
I also follow many nests but I have not been able to do so enthusiastically since Friday.
Hopefully tomorrow will bring new zest.
this year has been an unusually bad year because of weather but someone reminded me that is natures way. Hard as it may be nature has a plan.( unfortunately man has interfered with our environment which in turn has adversely affected nature)
I am off my soap box now. ;) ;)
Have a good evening everyone and hope for a brighter tomorrow. :)
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This might be a weird question but would Trey and Princess follow scent? What if some of the rocks were takin off the ledge and put in the nest box then maybe Trey and Princess would go to the nest box next year... or still hoping for a chance this year..
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Trey and Princess are going to what they want when they want I'm afraid. However, if they do decide to re-nest, it will be sooner rather than later This year, Trey returned on March 31st and the first egg was laid on April 19th. Since there is no need to renew their acquaintance after the winter away from one another. Previous re-nestings usually occurred about two weeks after the first nest was lost. Keep in mind that Trey and Princess have not lost a nest before so I can't speak to what exactly these two birds will do, just what other Manitoba peregrines have done in the past. Only one re-nest took place in the location where the original nest failed. That was Madame, and she very much preferred the nestbox over her years as the Radisson resident female. All other renests have been in the nestbox. If (if) they re-nest, there is a very good chance that they will use the nestbox.
As for scent, its not a factor in nestsite selection. So no worries there. We tend not to over-clean the nestboxes pre- and post-season. We leave bones et al in the box so that the sites are familiar, or at least seem undisturbed by humans.
And Trey's "scraping", though it is part of the pre-nesting ritual, now it could be reinforcing/renewing his pair bond with Princess and/or his/their territorial rights. We will just have to see. I hope to get the spy-cam back online so that I can watch what Trey and Princess are up to, but until then, Pam across the street is watching out for them. Will keep you updated!
The Peregrine Chick
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Ok, I'll do it...
Seeing as no one else has started a 'topic of the day', I'll do it.
Tracy, have you seen Princess or Trey today? Even though no one is posting today, both they and you are still in our thoughts. Hope today is a brighter day for everyone.
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I am glad you posted something Loriann.
I kept going on the foum this morning to see if anyone posted anything. I could see there were people online viewing the posts already there but no one was posting. I wanted to but did not know how to start or what to say.
Today is a bleak cool day like Friday was. We have had a lot of rain fall over night and this morning. I don't think as much rain fell but it is so dreary out there.
I do believe everyone is thinking about Tracy and her helpers and Princess and Trey. I know they are on my mind a lot.
It just seems so unfair the way Mother Nature works at times. Usually we do not know the outcome so it doesn't affect us. These little ones had so many people watching and pulling for them. So many people were so attached to them which makes it all so hard.
I just look forward to posts from Tracy on how Princess and Trey are and how the Brandon family is doing. I believe Tracy also has photos of all of them and when she has time she will be posting them.
Thanks again for starting something here.
Hope every one is having fairly good day.
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Hi Loriann,
You beat me to it.
I don't post very often, I often just read other posts and silently agree with many of the sentiments expressed.
But that doesn't mean that I haven't been around this forum and its predecessors before. I find that a lot of people who post here mention that they found this site last year and once they found it were devoted fans. Well, I was one of the devoted fans too, but I was a returning fan from 2006. Yes, the previous time that Trey and Princess nested on the ledge. Back then there wasn't streaming video (thank you Larry for the upgrade) and we watched the still images and counted the seconds till the next one. The forum wasn't as easy to use nor was it instantly updated as it is now.
Are there any others out there who remember this?
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I was doing the same thing.. waiting for someone to say something, anything.. and me being me, could not keep quiet any longer... and didn't know what to say. I know Tracy has other things to do, ( and we all have other things we SHOULD be doing lol).. but I hope she can find the time to update us on any activity there.
I see there are a few people on the board, but I guess we've run out of things to say, and what can you say at this point really?
Just FYI.. its over 40 degrees and sunny here in Mississauga. ( nah nah nah.. ) :P ;)
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Me too, I kept checking and wanting to start something, but couldn't think of anything to say. Finally went to the Peregrine room to talk about the weather... ::) ::)- I figured everyone was waiting for somebody else to say something. . ;D ;D - Hopefully one day soon we'll have more to talk about, there's still hope for that. I know Tracy will tell us any news of P&T - meanwhile we just wait and miss the chicks & our forum world... :-\
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Me too, I kept checking and wanting to start something, but couldn't think of anything to say. Finally went to the Peregrine room to talk about the weather... ::) ::)- I figured everyone was waiting for somebody else to say something. . ;D ;D - Hopefully one day soon we'll have more to talk about, there's still hope for that. I know Tracy will tell us any news of P&T - meanwhile we just wait and miss the chicks & our forum world... :-\
Typical Canadians.. if nothing else.. we can talk about the weather.. LOL
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Ha Ha - Exactly!!!! ;D ;D
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No news on Trey and Princess today, haven't been by the Radisson. Pam who works across the street is going to keep an eye out for them when she can, I'll post anything she sees when she sees it. She did send me some photos from Friday, some of Princess after she left the ledge and Trey up on the communications tower watching the rescue crew on the roof. She even has one of me getting rained on on the street (thanks Pam! :o) I'll post the pics of the birds tonight, I have to be on the computer finishing a presentation so I should be able to carve out enough time to add them to the photo gallery. Will post a link here when they are up. Also have a video clip from Saturday of Trey on the ledge. Hope to get it converted and posted soon (I'll be pm-ing you Grelber).
Oh, and you might want to check out today's blog ....
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Like most everyone else I've been watching the board but didn't know what to say. Been busy working on other things online.
LOL Yeppers we canadians love our weather and can I say here we go again? Environment Canada has posted a watch for more severe thunderstorms yippee. Yesterday was bad enough don't want anymore the day after.
I too keep thinking about Trey and Princess in their bird world doing their thing. Someone mentioned missing the chicks and the forum, here here to that, me too.
Yes it's wait and see and honestly I've never been good at the waiting part but was thinking over the weekend how all of this has been such a huge learning experience.
I had to laugh when I read Tracy's post in the thread that she was going to lock, she didn't hit that button? Ummmm that would help wouldn't it? LOL It sounds like from reading through all the threads that this year has been particulary tough on alot of birds, cold and rainy, not really typical late spring weather. It's of little consolation regarding our 3 chicks, still hurts even though it is Mother Nature that dictates our weather.
Eagle :)
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Was checking in too..didn't know how to start.
Happy to read Tracy's blog re: Brandon babies.
Hope you are doing ok today Tracy.
I miss Princess,Trey and the babies a lot,especially mornings.
Still hoping
Cheers
Marie
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I heard the bad news only yesterday and I'm still so shocked. We drove through the terrible rain early Friday morning on our way to a weekend in the States, and I did not get a chance to check my email til yesterday. It's truly heartbreaking.
It's a very sad thing and I have trouble coming up with the right thing to say. After reading all of the posts since Friday I will just say that I share many of the sentiments already expressed and thank you to Tracy and all involved for your hard work.
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Ah I KNEW you were all out there.. just waiting for ME to open MY big mouth and start the ball rolling..
Glad to see that this little community is still out there.
"""Pam who works across the street is going to keep an eye out for them when she can""",
Everyone say Hi to Pam across the street ! HI PAM !... and thank you for helping us all not go thru withdrawl.
Still hot and sunny here in Mississauga... 40+ degrees... good thing our eggs are hatched and the babies are ready for flight, otherwise we'd have FRIED eggs..
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Ain't that the truth Loriann, to hot for anyone much less eggs geeesssshh. Yeah we're out here, just don't have the courage like you :) to start a thread. I honestly didn't know what to say.
Hi Pam (waves a big wing)
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Yeah we're out here, just don't have the courage like you :) to start a thread.
Lol.. thanks.. not courage.. just the absolute inability to KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT. lol :-X
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Tracy I don't know how you find the time to do all that you do.. ??? - but we're very grateful for your constant communication with us! - I'm sure any pictures, video etc that anyone can post of P&T at this point will be eagerly lapped up by the Falcon starved fans waiting to see their feathered friends. We'll try to be patient though. ;D ;D
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Okay, as of 1421 hrs (local time) severe thunderstorm watch just got upgraded to tornado watch for an area extending from the south east corner of the province to a line running south from the western shore of Lake Manitoba to the US Border. Although it doesn't technically include Winnipeg, seems to cover everyone east, south and west of us. And let me tell you, the clouds are scudding by my south-facing office window at warp 4.
From Environment Canada: At least 5 funnel clouds have been reported in southern Manitoba this afternoon...Generally south of Winnipeg, near the communities of Niverville...Iles des chenes...Aubigney...And Kane. None of the funnels have touched the ground as of 2 PM this afternoon...However further funnel clouds are possible south of Winnipeg and in the extreme southeast corner of the province for the remainder of the afternoon. Although most of these types of funnels do not touch the ground, the possibility of a brief tornado does exist. The occurrence of these funnel clouds should end early this evening.
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Yikes!!! - :o :o - will the crazy weather never end?? It seems like even if the chicks had survived Black Friday - in that unsheltered nest, there still would have been endless more climate related challenges for them >:(
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Today I've seen both Princess & Trey around the nesting box. She has been going in and out and in and out. Hopefully they'll choose this site this time!
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That's great news! ;D Both that you've seen them and that they are going in and out of the nestbox! Thanks for the update. :) :) :)
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Holy Crap Manitoba !! hang on to your hats ! :o :o :o
Keeping you all in our thoughts!
Be safe. :-*
We here in Mississauga are under an extreme heat/humidity alert, so I'd wager we're next on the nut-bar weather radar. We had our fair share of Tornado warnings and sightings yesterday, and that is some scary POOP !..
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Yes,thank you loriann......been talking to my family in Mississauga and know the heat plus humidity there is off the wall......it's made my little grandson sick
We WERE all here waiting!!!!..so ,again thank you!!!
Cheers
Marie
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Today I've seen both Princess & Trey around the nesting box. She has been going in and out and in and out. Hopefully they'll choose this site this time!
Wonderful news,, if it means anything. The sentimental part of me thinks they are looking for the kids.. but I know they are not. Fingers crossed for a different outcome of this season, and the 'miracle' we are all hoping for... and some new kids.
Once again.. be safe out there everyone.. Mother Nature has PMS ! ;D
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Yes,thank you loriann......been talking to my family in Mississauga and know the heat plus humidity there is off the wall......it's made my little grandson sick
We WERE all here waiting!!!!..so ,again thank you!!!
Cheers
Marie
It's smoking hot here.. but we're NOT GOING TO COMPLAIN ( well not too loudly anyway).. three months ago we had five foot high snow banks ... two weeks ago we had frost on the tomatoes..
and again.. MOTHER NATURE HAS PMS ! ::)
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LOL I just read the posts, seems like we're in for a nother bumpy ride eh Loriann? Good thing I didn't put everything back in the closet where I take shelter from direct line of the windows and yes I am in a basement apartment.
Definately sounds encouraging with Princess and Trey hanging about the nestbox. Still crossing talons and feathers lol
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Ok I don't want to get my hopes up tooooo much....but I will say a quiet 'Yippee' to the news of P&T loitering around the penthouse suite!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Very nice to hear that P and T are in and around the nest box, perhaps the romantic sounds of the Iron Maiden concert down the street tonight will reach the Raddison and inspire a litte falcon lovin. ;)
I laughed at the Mother Nature having PMS. :)
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I'm laughing at both the "Iron Maiden Concert" and "Mother Nature having PMS"
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Hehehe. Tom Jones (or someone like that) is tomorrow night, that might actually be more love-inspiring.
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:D hahahaha yeah he is the romantic one, amazing he's still touring at his age lmao
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I just took a couple of minutes to read this whole thing and I have been thoroughly entertained :D. Thanks so much for all your great comments and for the update on Trey and Princess. As long as they are both okay, :) that's fine with me.
I'm in Brandon and it sounds like WPG is getting worse weather than we are. Although it poured rain all morning and the wind is picking up again. However, we don't have any warnings that I know of.
KEEP YOUR HATS ON :o.
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My day just became brighter after reading that P & T are going in and out of the nesting box..Yea Yea.
Thank you Mother Hen for your posting.
Oh My..please no tornados.WE have benn COMPLAINING here on the Island becasue it's cold...but having looked at the weather maps...oh dear no more complaining....well,not today anyway!!!!
Keep safe Tracy
Cheers
Marie
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Boy, this weather eh!!!
We had tornado warnings on the weekend in my neck of the woods in Alberta.
On the news today they say that with the Tornados starting earlier in the States ,that Canada is going to become a dumping ground for the later ones. Not very encouraging.
We have a saying here. Don't like the weather, wait a few minutes and it will change.
Pouring rain on the island, rain and storems off and on in albeta . manitoba with warnings.
It is good to hear Trey and Princess are investigating the neat box.
Did yo get my e-mail Larry?
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perhaps the romantic sounds of the Iron Maiden concert down the street tonight will reach the Raddison and inspire a litte falcon lovin. ;)
Perhaps Trey, being the seventh son of a seventh son and having no fear of the dark, will run to the hills in a matter of life and death towards a brave new world, where somewhere in time he will give Princess a piece of mind and get the number of the beast and
make a little birdie whooooooooopie..
;D
( ** peeks out of the HEADBANGER CLOSET **) :P
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rotflmao hahahahahahha too funny Loriann
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I'm laughing at both the "Iron Maiden Concert" and "Mother Nature having PMS"
same thing aren't they?? ;D
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:D hahahaha yeah he is the romantic one, amazing he's still touring at his age lmao
Doesn't he do "Sex Bomb" or some such ?? :o
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Very encouraging news about P & T being at the nest box :D. I've been reading about everything they went through prior to the wee ones being hatched and after watching them for the past week online and seeing everything they went through - that they would even think about doing it all over again..wow...talk about resilience!
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I just wanted to stop by and say howdy...I haven't forgotten you guys and gals. Just overly busy with work/chores/and trying to keep my eyes on a few cams where the juvies are close to first fledge. So glad to see that P & T have been spotted going in and out of the box...certainly gonna keep my fingers crossed on that...I do try to read through all the posts everyday cause I just want to keep in touch and see how everyone is doing...well, on my way to the HBG forum to post an update...nothing exciting yet....
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Well, I was one of the devoted fans too, but I was a returning fan from 2006. Yes, the previous time that Trey and Princess nested on the ledge. Back then there wasn't streaming video (thank you Larry for the upgrade) and we watched the still images and counted the seconds till the next one. Are there any others out there who remember this?
I remember! I started watching in 2006 as well. Back when the camera was not only not streaming, but also up at the top of the hotel and looking down at the tops of them, not along side as we had this year (thanks, Larry!).
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Good thing I didn't put everything back in the closet where I take shelter from direct line of the windows and yes I am in a basement apartment.
That wouldn't be the 'headbanger' closet now would it?
Lol..
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lmao ah no, I am not into headbanging music. Course these days there all sorts of closets to go in and out of lol which one should I pick lmao
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That got me thinking to check -- yeah, it's Iron Maiden tonight and that wouldn't do it for me! But Tom Jones tomorrow and Charley Pride on Wed, so maybe either one of them can set the mood! lol
btw, Loriann -- thanks for taking the plunge and starting this day.
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On the news today they say that with the Tornados starting earlier in the States ,that Canada is going to become a dumping ground for the later ones.
If the USA coughs... Canada catches a cold ;)
Happy to hear that Princess & Trey are visiting the nest box. :)
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btw, Loriann -- thanks for taking the plunge and starting this day.
You are most welcome..
now i have to go research song titles for Tom Jones.. lol.. and Charlie Pride? he's still alive? Wow y'all know how to PARTY there in Manitoba.. !!!!!!!!!!
Trey baby.. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.. ;)
(** runs back to the headbanger closet and slams the door **)
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So glad to hear/read of everyone's fun and sense of humour! Winnepeg sure seems to have a lot of entertainment scheduled!
I'm glad to hear someone has a bird's eye view of P, T, and the nesting ledge and the nesting box! Pam and Mother Hen must have a hard time concentrating on work --- I know I would! I'd be glued to the window.
It will be sad, but also good to see the photos Pam took when they come up. I had wondered where Trey was on Friday and figured he was watching from somewhere.
Reading through the other sad events in all those links in today's blog really made me realize that knowing what happened to the chicks and knowing it was nature and not terrible human ill-will is somehow a relief, well relief is not the right word, but I'm glad we know it was nature and exactly what happened. I think it would be harder if we were like the nest in San Francisco (?) where the chicks all died in the nest without any known cause yet or even worse, if the chicks, adults, (and we) were victims of terrible human activity.
Anyway, so happy to hear there's some activity and 'checking things out' going on in the nest box! Will gladly linger on that happy, hopeful thought tonight!
Nice to know everyone seems to be doing a bit better :)
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oops! Sorry I spelled Winnipeg incorrectly! I don't know how to edit once I've hit post!
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Charley Pride :o
Better put a mirror under his nose before the show ;D ;D ;D
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;D Ha Ha good one Larry~ :P (I think we got a bit off topic today ???) - But I'll bet Iron Maiden will be shaking up Wpg's downtown tonight :o - and we all hope the real reasons for this forum get busy quick & give us a reason to get back on track again... :D - Night all!!
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Okay Loriann I've been thinking about it all day and have decided which closet I will take cover in , my hearing aid closet lol, all I have to do is turn off the hearing aids when I don't wanna hear something (ie headbanging music) lmao
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LOL. Good one, Eye-spy!
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oops! Sorry I spelled Winnipeg incorrectly! I don't know how to edit once I've hit post!
After you've hit Send, go back to your post and click on "Modify," beside "Quote".
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oops! Sorry I spelled Winnipeg incorrectly! I don't know how to edit once I've hit post!
After you've hit Send, go back to your post and click on "Modify," beside "Quote".
Thanks, Liz! I posted the question in the technical session and Aline gave me the same response, there, too! I'm on track now and the next time I make a mistake, I'll know what to do. Thanks to both of you!
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Good morning all.
Hope everyone out there in Manitoba survived the night. We went thru a wild one here in Mississauga with Thunder, Lightning, wild winds and rain all night.
Hopefully this morning finds you all well, both feathered and human.
Wonder if Trey and Princess took in the Iron Maiden concert?
;)
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Good morning Everyone,
It looks like a very nice day here in Winnipeg. The sun is shining and it looks like no wind.
Looking forward to hearing more about Princess and Trey today.
Have a great day.
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Yea, Princess was there again first thing this morning.Standing on the nest. I can't see Trey but he was arouind yeterday. I have a birds eye view of the Radisson. All I have to do is turn my head and there they are. So I turn my head more then I should be!!!!! LMAO I am truly a mother hen. Later when the sun crosses behind the Radisson I will keep you posted on what I see.
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Hey guys, 'Mother Hen' has posted this morning on yesterday's forum -
I copied & pasted it. Things still looking hopeful!! :D :D
Mother Hen
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Yea, Princess was there again first thing this morning.Standing on the nest. I can't see Trey but he was arouind yeterday. I have a birds eye view of the Radisson. All I have to do is turn my head and there they are. So I turn my head more then I should be!!!!! LMAO I am truly a mother hen. Later when the sun crosses behind the Radisson I will keep you posted on what I see.
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Hmmmm... 'mother hen'.?.. Pam.?.. one and the same? ;)
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sounds good !... keep us up-to-date please !... we could all use a wee ray of sunshine this week. 8)
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Slightly off.. and sorry if this upsets anyone all over again,,, but how do 'we' all feel about naming the first three babies?
Seems only right that they have names, seeing as they were with us and touched all of us right squarely in the heart.
Tracy? any thoughts?
Would you be open to suggestions?
Tuesday morning musings. ???
If I may :
seeing as we do not know the sex of the babies, (perhaps Tracy does) most of these are either/or for both.
ARIEL -- THE ANGEL OF NATURE
ELIJAH -- THE ANGEL OF INNOCENCE
HAYYEL -- THE ANGEL OF WILD ANIMALS
TRGIAOB -- THE ANGEL OF WILD BIRDS
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Hi
I started a new topic in Other Perigrine cams with descriptions and link to cam.
Also a SlideShow I made and posted this morning.
http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/topic,185.0.html (http://www.species-at-risk.mb.ca/projects/pfrp/forum/programs/index.php/topic,185.0.html)
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'The 3 Musketeers'? :) :)
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First of all I am not Pam. I am on the West side of the Radisson and watch every day from my window at work. Trey is now sitting on the ariel and Princess was just on the nest. I also have binoculars.I will up date every day.I do watch them and have for years.
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cool.. we look forward to what you can see, seeing as the rest of us cannot see.
Keep us updated... we are all going thru withdrawl.
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withdrawal is putting it mildly Loriann! Good to know that Mother Hen has such a bird's eyeview and is willing to keep us updated, thank-you Mother Hen, I know I am grateful for the updates. :)
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Thank-you Mother Hen for the updates
I am in the dark with your Iron maiden talk. Were you having a concert there or something.
We are still expecting it soggy here. Where or where id the good weather go???
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Mother Hen - if I worked where you are - I'd be FIRED by now!!! ;D ;D
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I'm on the east side of the Radisson & have been watching Trey on the tower - he's gone now. Glad to hear Mother Hen is able to see the nest box from her location!
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Ballywing, maybe Mother Hen is the boss in her office and that's why she can watch the Falcons all she wants lol
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AHA! - Well if that's true, that view of our Falcons is a major job perk!! - are you hiring, Mother Hen?? ;D ;D
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:)Good morning everyone , Glad to hear Trey and Princess are doing ok and are still staying around the Radisson .
Are we not a lucky bunch having Pam and Mother Hen to keep us up to date with what is happening . what a bonus ;D .
It is funny how you get so used to getting up in the morning and going to th e web cam and now the forum and that two" little " bird's can change our life's, the girl's at my work think I have gone a little nut as I do talk about our falcon's there and although thay like to have a little look none of them really got into it like I did , I don't think they know what they are missing .
anyway hope everyone has a good day and we get plenty of up date's .
valerie
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I see Mother hen is online in here in the forum, wonder if she has anything new to report LOL "Reporter for the Falcon Forum, Mother Hen is on sight and will be reporting when possible"
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Maybe she can set up a camera, take video out the window and put it online for us. ;D - I s'pose that's asking too much... ??? ;D
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Trey is there.....On the second level of the highest ariel on top of the Radission and Princess is in the corner on the nest ledge. do you think they are talking to ech other? Hopefully something good will happen soon.......not that I am too anxious!
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Mother Hen, I for one am hoping, just knowing that Princess has been hanging around the nestbox is encouraging but I am not getting my hopes up to high, not until if and when they renest dare I hope beyond that. Just glad to know that they are still sticking to their territory. So tell us are you the boss in your office and that's why you have binoculars and not been fired? LOL
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I'm TRYING not to get my hopes up - but it's HARD!! :o
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If I could set up a camera I certainly would. Boss, NOT ME! I sit next to a window and just have to look that way and see the Radisson.....so not my fault!!!!!!! I have been sitting by a window for years and look for the flacons as I knew they nested on the Radisson so brought in the spy glasses......and to see if I can spot anything interesting in the bedroom windows!!! Just kidding! Just the birds.Just the birds Honest!!
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Ha Ha - well you sure are lucky to have that view Mother Hen!!! 8) - of the BIRDS that is!! ;D - Thanks for keeping us posted!!
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Yeah yeah sure Mother Hen, with a name like Mother hen You just want to make sure everyone is all happy, be it birds or humans. Personally the Birds are much more fascianting to watch and boy do I envy you. So your co-workers and boss have no problem with you taking a few seconds to spy on the birds with the binoculars?
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No problem watching as I have just about everyone watching with me. People from other departments have come for a look....... Will keep you posted !
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Now that's the way to do it, get em joining you then no one can complain lol
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Mother Hen, just to clarify... you saw Princess standing on the nest box or nest ledge? I know you said nest box in an earlier post...
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Just wanted to report that I did see both P and T at the concert last night! Well, from the concert anyway... I was standing near a window in the MTS Centre (arena) with some friends and realized that the Radisson was nicely visable outside the window from where we were so of course I was looking up and there was a bird sitting on the nestbox. It looked so small, but then it took off and I got a good look at the wingspan. It moved to the 'n' on the Radisson sign and then I'm pretty sure I saw the other sitting on the nestbox.
Of course there were a few people who wanted to know what the heck I was staring up at, so I had to explain it to them, lol.
PS - What an excellent show! Woulda been worth coming out of the headbanger closet for Lorain :)
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Hi everyone. Oh it is so exciting to hear news of our Trey and Princess! I am so pleased they are still hangin out and from your reports doing okay. I don't want to get excited thinking that they are getting ready to mate, renest, etc, but my, my, I sure am wondering!! Don't know if my ole heart can take going tru this again this year! Then again I would be going nuts wondering what I was missing so I will be checking in regularly. I still can't get the nerve up to watch any other cams yet. Tried to watch Elk River, but those chicks keep stumbling around the ledge and I keep thinking someone is going to fall out, and I would be scared to watch so just had to turn it off! I wished CBC would change that picture on the webcam site, its the worst picture of all. Its already permanently embedded in my brain from the day I was watching it live and i dont need to be reminded of it.
In other news, New Brunswick is having a great day for weather, after all the hot, humid, rain, thunderstorms and tornado watches of the last two days. Set a record in Fredericton on Sunday. Think yesterday was as well. Heard there was some damage from wind, (not confirmed tornados) but no one injured. Still quite humid and its up to 29C but nice breezes now and the sky is a bit bluer. Enjoyed reading all the posts from yesterday and today, glad others are still hangin in here!
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Took me a couple days to turn the Elk River site back on. Just couldn't face it really. Saw them last night for a bit - They sure are getting BIG!!!!! :o But like others have said - it's just not the same as watching 'OUR' birds. As much as I agree with Deedreem about 'Don't know if my ole heart can take going tru this again this year' - I still hope they do try again. And if they do - I REALLY hope they have an easier time of the whole process this time!!! 8) 8) - Very happy to hear how many times they've been sighted. !! ;D
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.....and to see if I can spot anything interesting in the bedroom windows!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
well now this forum has taken a whole new turn ! hee heee..
thanks for the updates....
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PS - What an excellent show! Woulda been worth coming out of the headbanger closet for Loriann :)
Hey ! it's getting crowded here in the headbanger closet... between myself and Eagle.. lol.
And Tom Jones tonight? wow.. again.. y'all know how to P-A-R-T-Y ! :P
( careful though. .Mother Hen has Binocs... pictures at 11:00.)
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y'all tell me AC/DC is playing there next weekend then I may have to come out of my headbanger closet as well. Might even have to come out there!!! ;D ;D
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WE'RE GONNA NEED A BIGGER CLOSET ! ;D
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Don't forget your "bloomers" those of you thinking about attending Tom Jones show! Isn't he the one that everyone used to throw there........... you know,( small articles of clothing) at????? ;D ;D
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Ya'll should just come out of that closet for good, it's wonderful out here! hehe.
So sorry about misspelling your name Loriann! :(
Such a nice day here in Winnipeg, unfortunately they're calling for more rain over the next few days ::). I say enough already!
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thats okay.. everyone does...
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roftlmao all this talk about closet, I'm gonna start having a complex. it's all your fault Loriann. It's finally nice today, just got back from taking pictures. Thinking about going back out too lol not sure.
Now I've heard everything, I'm reading posts in a forum about birds why should I be surprised that the birds and bees came into the conversation lmao
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Saw lots of Princess and Trey today, often sitting on the tower above the Radisson (especially Trey, but at one point both). I've sent a few pics to Tracy - not great quality, but nonetheless! Trey was soaring around above and to the west of the new Hydro building, looked wonderful........
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thats so nice to hear. Wished I could see! :)
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Today around 1 pm as I was walking back to work, I could see one of them sitting on the ledge of the nestbox. From 30 floors and a block away, I don't know who!, but one of them was there. ;D ;D Then, on my way home on the bus, I caught sight of a huge wingspan heading towards the nestbox but then trees... and when when we got to the stop (where I got off the bus at the same corner as earlier in the day), there was nothing, so I guess whoever it was had landed.
I keep looking out the window at work in hopes of seeing one of them on the tower atop the hotel, but nothing this year so far. Saw them lots last year, so I hold out hope. I do catch Princess on the JR sign at the Richardson building every once in awhile, tho.
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Charly Pride ???
TOM JONES ???????
AC/DC ??????
What... did Branson close ?
Price of gas too high for the older folk to travel down there ???
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too funny Eye-spy. too too funny!
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I put this on yesterdays, should be here...
Today around 1 pm as I was walking back to work, I could see one of them sitting on the ledge of the nestbox. From 30 floors and a block away, I don't know who!, but one of them was there. ;D ;D Then, on my way home on the bus, I caught sight of a huge wingspan heading towards the nestbox but then trees... and when when we got to the stop (where I got off the bus at the same corner as earlier in the day), there was nothing, so I guess whoever it was had landed.
I keep looking out the window at work in hopes of seeing one of them on the tower atop the hotel, but nothing this year so far. Saw them lots last year, so I hold out hope. I do catch Princess on the JR sign at the Richardson building every once in awhile, tho.
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Mother Hen and Pam, I'm so glad you have good views from your windows. I'm at Portage and Main, so I'm squinting to see what I can see from work. Thanks for the updates from both of you!! :) :)
AC/DC? Not sure about that -- probably. Glenn Miller Orchestra, Neil Diamond, Reba McIntyre (okay, I would like to go to that!), Kenny Rogers.... you're right, Eye-spy -- Who needs Branson?!!! And what happened to ColdPlay? Supposed to be Aug 1, and suddenly disappeared from our ticket-buying sites. I think P&T would like them!
We need a new clutch, so we can get back on topic in this forum!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah a new clutch would certainly get us back on track lol. I'm sure Tracy must be laughing and shaking her head when she reads ours posts of the last couple of days.
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No doubt! But I'm sure she also sees how devoted we are to being on this site, and that we're collectively holding our breath, waiting for (I hope!) new babies to change our postings. But I did say what I saw today -- someone was on the nestbox ledge!
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Yes I believe you did say that, and seems to me Mother Hen saw the same activity around the nestbox. Talk about holding my breath. Oh well I'll my breath while I rest my feet, lol was out walking all afternoon taking pictures. Now my feet and the rest of me is tired lol
Yes we are quite the devoted bunch eh?
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Anyone know how long it takes for new eggs to be laid? ??? ???
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Couple of asked the question in another thread but Tracy hasn't had a chance to respond yet. I am sure she's up to her neck busy crazy etc etc etc.
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I thought she said two weeks..?
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You know, I don't think I could live in Winnipeg! I'd always be staring out the window or tempted to wander the streets around the Radisson! I keep wishing I, too, could see them in person, but really....it would be even more 'dangerous' than the forum in terms of time management! ;D
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2 weeks?.....sigh....so long to wait! :-\
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We have a pair of Osprey's nesting on a light fixture in a baseball field here in the city where I live. Thank goodness I can't afford a bus pass or I'd be over there all the time lol
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(moving day for me, too, Liz as I posted in yesterday's as well -- sorry to those who may read this twice!)
You know, I don't think I could live in Winnipeg! I'd always be staring out the window or tempted to wander the streets around the Radisson! I keep wishing I, too, could see them in person, but really....it would be even more 'dangerous' than the forum in terms of time management! ;D
Also -- I thought I read somewhere else in the site that another pair had renested somewhere and there was only 3 days in between mating and egg laying....or am I imagining that?!
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I'm sure I read that too Enraptured! - 3 days - that's more like it! ;D
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lol Enraptured and Eagle 63 -- Yeah, one has to remember WHY you're being paid to sit where you do, even tho the view is amazing! I have to try to watch on my own time. It's tough! :P
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I don't remember that, but I hope you're right! I thought Tracy said two weeks. Three days seems kinda fast to me... Hope I'm wrong!
Poor Tracy, having to respond to all the new postings since she was last on! (T -- just do a synopsis (sp?) ) and throw it all into one post!)
Liz
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No Blog today, Tracy must have been busy. Hey I became a 'Chick' today .... ;D ;D - cool!! - Night all!
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Yes
Both of them are there today. Trey on the tower/ariel and Princess on the nest looking out. I do have such a good view from my window......Wish you could all join me.
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Morning all - Just want to thank Mother Hen for her updates on P&T! - :) The more sightings she reports, the better I feel about hoping for another try this year...Princess has been around the nestbox (penthouse) every day, Trey is right there, on the roof, on the aerials - this resiliant couple just may give us what we're holding our breath for!! - They deserve a successful summer, fingers crossed!! - Keep those binocs handy Mother Hen! - Have a nice (rainy >:() day all!!! ;D
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The first thing when I hit downtown in the morning is look up! Good thing I am not the one driving LOL !! Love seeing the falcons and when they fly up up they go with such grace. I only thing I have not witnessed is getting their meals but then again I am not a bird so that might be a hard thing to see.Good thing I might have become dinner! Later folks.
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I am not a bird so that might be a hard thing to see.Good thing I might have become dinner!
MMMM Hen tastes like chicken ! ;D
Thanks for the updates... wish we could all see too, we miss our birdie fixes. :-\
Sunshine and blue sky here in Mississauga, and 25 for the high, with more manageable humidity for the first day in a week... Mother Nature found out about Midol, and has cured her PMS.
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I can relate!! - when I drive by the Radisson, I'm straining & twisting & bending my head upside down, trying to catch a glimpse of P&T - problem is, I AM driving!!! :o :o - Never have seen them yet though. Not live anyway. :-\
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Glad to hear from Mother Hen, and that Trey and Princess are still there. I do hope that Princess is getting her energy levels replenished if she is getting ready to nest again. My she was one worn out bird I thought! I feel bad for all the peregrines lost so far this year, imagine the ones we don't even know about!! Probably lots of falcons renesting this year. I do hope our extreme weather will be kinder to them this time around.
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wow, really quiet guys! :) Its a nice day here in NB. 23C and sunny. Nice breeze. Put some striped black sunflower seeds out awhile ago for a couple of mourning doves that were scrounging for food. Ummm, but unfortunetly my resident chipmunks have been busy carrying it all away to there underground stash! Mr red squirrel must be busy elsewhere as there have been no fights or wild chases yet today. Refilled my hummingbird feeder this morning as well, seems to be a healthy number of them around. A downy woodpecker seems to like the trees in my front yard best. Haven't sighted the loons yet today. Songbirds seem quieter than normal, been wondering if a hawk or owl is nesting nearby. We had an owl last summer living almost directly across from me in the hardwoods. May go down by the water later and sit a spell. I'll let you all know if i see anything exciting! ;) :)
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G'day fellow Phanatics,
While I am busy doing major housecleaning I've been thinking about Trey and Princess and the phanatics.
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I sure wish we could still see the cams. At least we could sometimes catch sight of
T&P. If they do lay eggs on the same ledge would they be moved? Not wanting to see another June downpour repeat.
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We have no resident rodents here anymore... no squirrels, and no ground dwelling critters... we have a family of merlin falcons that nest in the neighbors pine tree.. waaaaaaaaaaaaaay up ... and when she moved in, the critters moved out .. or she ate them... but we have no squirrels.. and they used to nest in our maple.
Nice that you have such a wonderful array of beasties... !
do you think you could point your web cam out the window.. we're all suffering withdrawl.. lol
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Now I wonder - ??? - did they move the cam from the nestbox to the ledge when P&T decided to nest there? - or is that a different cam - meaning - is there still a cam at the penthouse? And if not - then how will they put one there AFTER the birds have nested there (hopefully) ??? - I agree, I'd rather see something rather than nothing. If the cam was set up at the penthouse, we could see Princess going in & out and stuff!! I wonder if that's possible? ;D
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Hi ballywing, as I recall there is only the one webcam.. It is high up on the side of the building and was there to look at the nestbox at the top! They had a big zoom and were able to manover it and point it down at the lower ledge where they did nest this year. Remember on Black Friday Eyespy had the cam pointed all over the place! So yes I was wondering if they would turn it on for us and point it at the nestbox location as thats seems to be where Princess is sighted quite often. But was thinking maybe that all cost money to run it right now or something, when there is not much happpening. ??? Sure would be nice to see them though. We could keep the team informed between all of us on what we see them doing!!
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Someone could start a new topic,,, Petition to turn webcam on! lol. please Tracy, please Eyespy, anyone??? :D
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That's what I was thinking - it must cost money to run - maybe we need to ask 'Pretty Please' - or take up a collection? ;D
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Hey Gang,
Caveat: Phanatics, don't get your hopes up with any of the following ...
Sightings: Dennis Swayze (our official photographer/PhotosbyDennis (http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis)) spotted Trey (we think) sitting on one of the small cell antennaes on the Radisson right by the nestbox today as he was driving through. Though it is not proof that renesting will occur, it is one of Trey's favourite spots when they are nesting in the box.
Renesting: IF IT OCCURS, it will take two weeks for Princess to get buns in the box. Keep in mind that they have to do the whole sex thing again (I'm going to go blind again!) and Trey is an experienced older man (no comments about Viagra) so he will do it right and that takes time.
Webcam Locations: We have four cameras installed on the Radisson. One is the spycam - remember the photos of the ledge from above from earlier in the season? Two is the nest ledge cam, the one you all were watching online. Three and four are installed at the nestbox: three is right in the box, four is outside the box looking at the ledge. Cameras three and four are fixed (we can't move them), one and two are remotely controlled.
Webcam Online: IF the birds renest, we will go back online. If they don't, we probably won't. Will let you know if there are any changes to that plan as I get them.
Merlins & Squirrels: LoriAnn - merlins won't eat the squirrels, but they will prevent them from getting anywhere near the nest because they eat the eggs. The chicks are probably too big for a squirrel, but they'd want to prevent them from getting close. And have no fear, your "critters" are still around they are a) just more quiet & invisible than usual and b) have changed their regular routines so as not to attact attention. You should be back to normal about a month after the merlin chicks have fledged.
Mother Hen: used to work in your building in another career incarnation. Great view! ;D
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This would explain the little camouflage outfits ... hmmm
I know they don't eat the squirrels.. but they sure scare them.. i see the merlins eatting black birds of some kind... starlings maybe?
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Well - as long as there's hope there's something to look forward to - I think they'll try again... :) - Plenty of time left - sort of... ??? - And with this silly cool wet weather lately, P&T must think it's still APRIL or something!!! ::)
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This would explain the little camouflage outfits ... hmmm
Squirrel camo, like that :D
I know they don't eat the squirrels.. but they sure scare them.. i see the merlins eatting black birds of some kind... starlings maybe?
Starlings, grackles, maybe even blackbirds (red-winged or golden-crowed) ....
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Hi everyone ,
So glad to see everyone in a good mood again! and we are all hoping for some new little chick to love , watch and grow ,but if Trey and Princess decide not to have a little nookey we will just have to wait till next year .
I know it's naughty off me but I wish I could be a fly on the nest and watch all the fun hee hee 8)
soooooooooooo naughty ;D
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Almost walked into a wall today walking to work, as I could see both Trey & Princess soaring/circling above the hotel and wasn't paying attention to my immediate surroundings. Sheila (co-worker) saw them doing the same thing this afternoon - btw, Sheila is absolutely convinced that "things are happening".........
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There we go, Pam's just given proof that it would be too 'dangerous' for me to be able to live in Winnipeg -- and not just dangerous for time management, but personal safety too! Take care, Pam! We don't want to hear of any accidents or loss of prime Peregrine watchers who have a birds-eye view of things (especially if you and a co worker think 'things are happening!' -- this could get better than a soap opera!
Do take care! :D
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LMAO @ Soap Opera comment, who knows Enraptured. Now I get to sit and relax for the rest of the evening, have a bite to eat and catch up on my reading of the forum. Then I get to do it all over again tomorrow. Oh well there is an end to this means I am doing lol
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I know it's naughty off me but I wish I could be a fly on the nest and watch all the fun hee hee 8)
soooooooooooo naughty ;D
maybe you should hook-up with Mother Hen ... and her window peeking into the bedroom windows of the Raddison hotel.. lol
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I know it's naughty off me but I wish I could be a fly on the nest and watch all the fun hee hee 8)
soooooooooooo naughty ;D
maybe you should hook-up with Mother Hen ... and her window peeking into the bedroom windows of the Raddison hotel.. lol
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
rotflmao , omg that is just too funny Loriann hahahahahahahahahaha
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Nice long informative blog today - Tracy has been busy!!! :) I too was walking eyes to the sky yesterday, trying to catch a glimpse of our birds. Never seem to be able to though!! :( - anyway I realized I musta looked kinda weird as there were a few funny looks when my eyes finally returned to earth.....sheesh, it's hard to imagine that most people don't even KNOW that P&T are up there somewhere!!! ??? ???
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It IS kind of hard to imagine that most folks don't know they're up there, isn't it!
I agree, excellent blog today, Tracy.
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I know it's naughty off me but I wish I could be a fly on the nest and watch all the fun hee hee 8)
soooooooooooo naughty ;D
maybe you should hook-up with Mother Hen ... and her window peeking into the bedroom windows of the Raddison hotel.. lol
yes................. I have my own binoculers !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P hee hee
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
rotflmao , omg that is just too funny Loriann hahahahahahahahahaha
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Well, it's 11C and pouring rain. Again. Maybe they will think it's still April and try again!
I too stare up at the hotel, from the bus stop at Graham and Donald. It always surprises me that I'm the only one! :o Wake up people -- there's exciting stuff happening overhead!!!
This would explain the little camouflage outfits ... hmmm
ROTFL, Loriann! ;D
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I too stare up at the hotel, from the bus stop at Graham and Donald. It always surprises me that I'm the only one! :o Wake up people -- there's exciting stuff happening overhead!!!
I stare up as I ride my bike into and away from work. Adds a little more excitement to an already fun ride dealing with Winnipeg drivers! No luck spotting P&T yet though.
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Ha Ha - well looks like there are several of us walking/ riding / driving around with our heads pointed upwards. :o - The 'out of towners' are going to get an amusing picture in their heads of Winnipeg's downtown scene!! ;D ;D ;D.........Remember to keep us posted on any P&T sightings Mother Hen!! ;)
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me again... starting the ball rolling.
I posted this once before.. but didn't see any kind of response. so here it is again.
Slightly off.. and sorry if this upsets anyone all over again,,, but how do 'we' all feel about naming the first three babies? Seems only right that they have names, seeing as they were with us and touched all of us right squarely in the heart.
Tracy? any thoughts? Would you be open to suggestions?
If I may : seeing as we do not know the sex of the babies, (perhaps Tracy does) most of these are either/or for both.
ARIEL -- THE ANGEL OF NATURE
ELIJAH -- THE ANGEL OF INNOCENCE
HAYYEL -- THE ANGEL OF WILD ANIMALS
TRGIAOB -- THE ANGEL OF WILD BIRDS
CHASAN -- THE ANGEL OF AIR
CORAT -- THE ANGEL OF AIR / FRIDAY AIR
DONEL -- ANGEL OF THE SOUTH WINDS
NAFRIEL-- GUARDIAN ANGEL OF THE SOUTH WINDS
RUCHIEL -- GUARDIAN ANGEL OF THE WINDS
Your thoughts?
oh, and Happy Thursday.. hard to believe almost a week has passed.. sigh..
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Almost walked into a wall today walking to work, as I could see both Trey & Princess soaring/circling above the hotel and wasn't paying attention to my immediate surroundings. Sheila (co-worker) saw them doing the same thing this afternoon - btw, Sheila is absolutely convinced that "things are happening".........
Hi Pam. :)
I saw Trey and Princess doing the same thing last year. It was exciting to see them hanging on the air, over the Radisson, barely moving. I pointed them out to two foot patrolers as they were walking by and they said they hadn't heard about P & T before. They were thrilled to see it!
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I meant to reply to that Loriann and I think it's a good idea to give the chicks names. My p icks would be Ariel, Elijah and Trgiaob.
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Our feathered friend were out late night and were not home early this morning but are there now.Sure is cool to see them circle way up.....Tracy, do Peregrines mate for life?? I tell people around me when I see them so more people that know the better off they will be......the people that is. I am sure some people think I am a bit off my rocker. Later folks
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I have no problem with naming the chicks.
I can see if I can find out the sexes, but they kind of looked like two males and one female based on size, but at this age I would say it is really more of a guess. If it really matters to everyone what their genders are I can see about finding out (no guarantees) or you can go with my guess-timate.
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I think you must be busy enough without us giving you more work Tracy, 2 boys and a girl sounds good! ;)
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I would not worry too much about the sexes...your educated guess is good enough for all of us.
So, if you would all like to forward your suggestions for names? I think we should give Tracy the honor of choosing , or if she would prefer, we could have a very informal poll here.
** note to Tracy.. duly noted about the blank lines. **
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I think it is a GREAT idea to name the chicks officially. I was going to do it anyway for myself if we didn't do it as a group :)
Just want to share something with you. Last night I had a dream about my Dad (he died in 2005). In the dream he approached me and when I looked up he had a beautiful full grown Peregrine on his arm. The Peregrine looked down at me, my father got a big smile on his face and nodded, looked at the falcon, the falcon spread his/her wings and flew. Now, to me this means that our chicks are having their opportunity now to spread their wings and soar in whatever lies beyond this world. I like to think that way anyway. But, seriously, whatever your spirituality, I think it is fair to say that our chicks are experiencing a "rebirth" of sorts ... eternal life? ... afterall, how many baby chicks have been remembered and talked about as much as these by people all over Canada (and the world!)?!
If I had a choice of names ... I love the suggestions posted. Any of them. But I would also name one Kyle, in honour of our hero.
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I second that.. kyle is a great idea !... thanks for suggesting it.
Or maybe we should wait and name a 'new ' chick that...one that can go on to live and fly and . .. well.. lets see what everyone else thinks..still a great idea !
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I was just wondering, Tracy, if the Winnipeg falcons were to re-nest on the Radisson ledge (ever, not just this year), are any additional measures being taken for drainage? I know they're wild, but seeing that they're endangered, it seems that we should do whatever we can to help them out in the face of all of the adversity/natural elements that they're up against. I just can't get that awful image out of my mind...
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Lauren,
There is a long thread about this idea - turns out it's much harder than we might think. I think the topic is something like "ways to improve nest site" or something. Might take a look and see if you can think of something new? Creative minds needed!
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Oh yeah good idea freeshia, one be name Kyle in Honor of the hero.
Lauren, there is drainage on the nest ledge and it was simply a case of too much rain too fast. Even the streets in Winnipeg were flooding because it was too much too fast. I believe Tracy addressed this topic in a previous discussion/thread, just not sure right now where to locate it.
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Seems they're hanging around the penthouse nestbox now, which is a good sign. I don't know how Peregrines 'think' -but I would hope they now have an instinctive feeling of 'NO WAY' at the idea of re-nesting on that ledge in future.... :o. ...As for names - Kyle is a great idea, also Larry and Tracy - in honor of those who really give of themselves for these creatures. ;D
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Our feathered friend were out late night and were not home early this morning but are there now.Sure is cool to see them circle way up.....Tracy, do Peregrines mate for life??
Yes Mother, they do. However (you knew there would be one of these), "for life" has a few shades of grey. When there are territorial battles, they are gender specific, female against female, male against male, not female & male against interloper. So a male can "lose" his mate when she loses a fight, and vice versa. Or a male or female may take a sabbatical and then return and pickup where they left off, or not.
Here are a few examples ...
- T-Rex spent his first summer with a female at the U of M (don't remember her band number), the next summer, Madame at the U of M - he fed the captive-bred chicks we were hacking. She appeared in town the December before, and he brought food for her too. He migrated out, she didn't migrate (another story). Next spring, she moved into the Radisson territory and took up with the original Delta/Radisson male and was with him for the next three years. T-Rex in the meantime was paired up and producing young successfully with Burnsie, a Brandon released female. In 1995, the original Delta/Radisson male (and T-Rex's Dad) disappeared about two weeks into incubation and T-Rex ditched Burnsie (they didn't have eggs) and came in and adopted his father's eggs and his "widow" (no idea if Pop actually died, never found anything). T-Rex and Madame stayed together for about three years before he failed to return and she took up with Simba, a nephew of T-Rex for two years and then she was hooked up with Trey for three years and then we didn't seem him at all in 2003 but Madame was still at the Radisson. She appears to have been escorted out of the territory by Princess in 2004 and Trey and Princess have been together ever since.
- This year Princess rebuffed the attentions of her son Ivy (not because he's a son, Madame and Trey were mother and son) because she was waiting for Trey and Trey's time wasn't up yet.
- Out in Brandon, Holly was paired with Zeus for three years, then he went on sabbatical for 2007 and she paired up with Screech. Zeus returned in 2008 and Holly returned to him - no sign of Screech this year at all.
So "for life" has different meanings ... and can be kinda flexible ...
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Kyle, Tracy and Larry.
I like it. :)
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I thought of that too.. name one for Tracy and Larry, but would rather see them honored with a live chick.. just my opinion..
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If you want to name chicks after living people, probably better to give it to a live chick ...
As for naming a chick "Kyle", had they survived, one male chick was already spoken for ... figure'd y'all wouldn't mind ;D
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OUr leader has spoken, and i have to agree.. lets wait for a live chick to honor all these wonderful people... and again..my opinion.. but name the departed chicks after angels or something else.
your thoughts?
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Wow! - Way to go Princess - waiting for Trey. 8) - I hope P&T always stay together, it would seem strange for either of them to have a new partner. I guess that's 'Humanizing' them again. ;D
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Yup, good idea - Live people for Live chicks. Angels for our poor unlucky threesome. :'(
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Good idea to name the chicks...as I'm sure their deaths would be recorded by Tracy and entered in as history so to speak for this year ......so yea I think names for them is most appropriate.Perhaps names that might reflect what happened to them....just a thought,cant think of one at the moment though!!!! Lots of poetic people out there.
Happy to hear too, that P & T are still hanging out!!!!!
Marie
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Wow! - Way to go Princess - waiting for Trey. 8) - I hope P&T always stay together, it would seem strange for either of them to have a new partner. I guess that's 'Humanizing' them again. ;D
'Fraid so. Trey was hooked up with Madame for a few years prior to Princess' arrival ... and he is more than twice her age, so she may get a new mate, though usually it seems the "women" in this province "go" first .... (knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey, knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey, knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey, knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey - oops, my favourites are showing ... ;D)
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HIi,
I just have to check in once a day. I love the idea of naming the chicks and since some names have already been offered ,go with those.
Yes, mating for life has different meanings. ask us here in Edmonton :) :) For some reason we do not name anything,. But I do
I called last years female Lady Edmonton. I am thinking Stud for the male. ;D ;D he has been with us for awhile and this is his fourth female. I think my transmitter girl was his longest and she is still trying to reclaim the nest,( but is just resting out the rest of the season now) I will be biting my fingers next year again.,The one chick last year I called little princess.
I am so impressed with the Tracy and Larry and others that take care of this site.
We are still having bad weather here. Hoping for some sun soon.
I know what you mean about looking for your peregrines. I go to my site on a regular basis and I think they think around there that I am a kook. I have my camera and binoculars in hand. And anyone that stops and ask what I am doing, I hand them my binoculars and give them the story. I even have the teacher across the street form me having her high school students observing on line.
what we so for our passion. :) :)
Have a great day.
cheers
bev.
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As an fyi for the Winnipeg boardies who might be downtown, there's a great spot to do bit of Peregrine spotting in the Skywalk along the library heading towards the Canada Post bldg. I was there not 20 minutes ago and spotted P or T soaring between stops at the Radisson and the Rogers tower.
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Hm, I guess you kinda like Trey aye Tracy?? ;D ;D - So Princess may dump him for a younger man - tsk tsk - I guess that's life. He'll have to find a middle aged lady companion then. 8) - Not this year though!! ;) - still hoping for some new chicks out of P&T!!
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Hmmmmmm do you think Tracy might have a bias regarding Trey? What ever would give me that idea I have no idea ;D
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He's my baby ... I had a broken ankle and was on crutches & in a cast when I banded him, and when I picked him up after he crashed, and when I returned him to the roof all in 1996. And he is just so darn purty! How could I not love him?! ;D
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I dunno but there was alot of repetition & wood-knocking going on - I think Tracy has a little soft spot for Trey... ;D ;D........I'm just biding my time waiting for news of some eggs!! ::)
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Well Tracy given the cirumstances I can see why Trey is your Baby :) Quite something to band a bird born at the Radisson and then have him grow up and become the male resident at the same location :)
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With the exception of Holly in Brandon and Princess here at the Radisson, I have banded all the Manitoba birds we are watching right now - Trey, Zeus, Alley, T2, Radisson, Donna, Ivy and Lucy (if its her). All but the first two are only 3 years or less in age. Trey is 12 and Zeus is 13. Its spooky to have banded the parents and now the kids. If Lucy and/or Ivy figure out what they are doing, I'll be banding grandparents, parents and kids!!! Very neat.
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Well if Trey has another boy maybe Trey Juniour should be the name or JR!!!
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That is just way too cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That is amazing Tracy and it must make you feel very proud of yourself even on those days when things don't quite work out as intended. You can actually see that the all the work you've been doing all these years to help the peregrine falcons thrive is actually paying off and that obviously gives you the incentive to keep doing what you are doing.
Here's hoping that Ivy and Lucky...well get lucky :D
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Hi Everyone,
I love the idea of naming the chicks. I like all the angel names that were suggested and any one of them would be suitable. And if Tracy agrees, I think she should have the honour of picking the names or if she has other suggestions of her own go with them. I know they were only 8 or 9 days old but so many of us grew to love them and I do feel they deserve to have names.
I hoping on Saturday that I will venture downtown and try to see Trey and/or Princess. Hopefully both of them. I have never had luck seeing anything while driving thru downtown. So maybe if I actually park and walk around, I just may get lucky and see them.
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Hey all-I've read Tracy's entry on the mating for life, but have another question that I haven't seen answered. What about the off season? Are the birds together in the winter months or do they winter separately and find their way back to gether in the spring? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but enquiring minds......
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Ok Tracy... it seems the general concensus is that we all agree on naming the babies.
We also agree that YOU should have the honor of doing so.
If the angel names are of interest to you, then see my post with a list of them to choose from.
If you feel we had two males and one female, then go with that. Most of the names could be used either way.
please let us know what you think, and what you decide. As has been stated a few times,lets keep the honor of naming one after you, Larry and Kyle for some live, healthy, chicks.
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Hi all, these are my votes :D
ARIEL -- THE ANGEL OF NATURE
ELIJAH -- THE ANGEL OF INNOCENCE
TRGIAOB -- THE ANGEL OF WILD BIRDS
Tracy thanks for telling us who was with whom and when.
I was thinking in human thoughts and couldn't get my head around Trey and Madame together ???
I have to keep telling myself these are birds, not humans silly me. LOL ;D
Doreen
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I see a few of us have expressed preferences for the following names.
If anyone else wants to add their opinion, ''vote'' here, and we'll let Tracy have the final say on her babies names.
so far there I see the names Ariel, Elijah, and Trgiaob as being the most popular. ( and no,that's not a typo on the last name, thats how its spelled.).
I think we should do this by tomorrow if possible, at the one week mark ( already).
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Those three are good names, I think.
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I think it is a great idea !!!!!!!!!!and I like the three names eagle63 like but I would like the third egg that Princess helped get out of it shell to be Elijah .
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I'm up for those 3 names - how on earth do you pronouce Trgiaob though? ??? I wonder if Tracy knows if the last chick was a boy or girl? I assume it would be the smallest one, being last out.
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Hi, all. It always takes so long to read thru everything when I get home from work! I stood at the MTS Centre for awhile today, but didn't see our couple. And nothing out my work windows all day. :( Glad to hear others did!
Loriann, I didn't respond because I was mulling names over, not because I didn't like the idea. I think it's a great idea! I'm glad it was suggested that naming our fluff balls after live people wasn't a great idea, because I was thinking the same thing. I like your original idea. These are my choices (altho I'm also quite happy to let Tracy decide):
ELIJAH -- THE ANGEL OF INNOCENCE. No explanation needed.
TRGIAOB -- THE ANGEL OF WILD BIRDS ("As an angel who protects wild birds, we pray to this illumined one to protect all birds from extinction, pollution and destruction of their habitat. Whenever you hear a bird sing, Trgiaob is near.") Isn't that what this is all about?! If anyone can figure out how to pronounce it, please share. ;)
CORAT -- THE ANGEL OF AIR / FRIDAY AIR ("A Friday Angel of the air") We lost them on a Friday.
As for another clutch, I'm happy with Kyle, Larry and Tracy. Radisson has already been done, so that's out of the running. I had been thinking Shaw sounds like a boy's name, but I guess it can go either way. I also like Trey Jr. Tracy, it may be that we've already decided and there's no need for a poll!!! AND, I'm thinking even if they don't have more this year, Kyle should be a done deal for next year. Any thoughts, fellow Phanatics?
Jill - thanks so much for the scoop on a good spot to watch. I'll check it out!
Tracy, I don't think I've seen this -- Trey is 12? What's his life expectancy? I realize it's hard to judge between the wilds and the city, and there's so much that can happen. But given all going well, what is old age for a Peregrine?
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I think it is a great idea !!!!!!!!!!and I like the three names eagle63 like but I would like the third egg that Princess helped get out of it shell to be Elijah .
That's a perfect idea!
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ROTFL -- how many times can one use the word "idea" in one paragraph?
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Trgiaob: As an angel who protects wild birds, we pray to this illumined one to protect all birds from extinction, pollution and destruction of their habitat.
Elijah :Believed to have created the tree of life. Guardian of all new born children and those spirits who die at an early age.
Ariel: Ariel is an Archangel closely related to nature. Guardian of Fridays.
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I just wanted to stop by with a quick hello...loved all the conversation about the names and its a wonderful idea...I love the 3 suggested and their meanings...though someone needs to pronounce TRGIAOB for me... ;D. I hope everyone has a great Friday!!!
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Well I googled it and couldn't find any site with the pronunciation. I did see that an 'aka' is Trgiaoh - so it may sound something like Ter-jee-oh... ??? - sounds good to me! ;D
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'Fraid so. Trey was hooked up with Madame for a few years prior to Princess' arrival ... and he is more than twice her age, so she may get a new mate, though usually it seems the "women" in this province "go" first .... (knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey, knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey, knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey, knock on wood that nothing happens to Trey - oops, my favourites are showing ... ;D)
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All that knocking on wood I was beginning to think I was hearing a woodpecker in the vicinity lmao
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Well I googled it and couldn't find any site with the pronunciation. I did see that an 'aka' is Trgiaoh - so it may sound something like Ter-jee-oh... ??? - sounds good to me! ;D
Sounds good to me too...and I'm gonna go with that!!!! :)
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according to the Wikipedia, life expectency in the wild for peregrines is 15 1//2 years.
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Hm - Is Downtown Winnipeg considered 'The Wild' ? ???... ;D
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Well given that the Peregrine Falcons on the Eastern half of North American were all but wiped out, and are making a come back due to Program like this one. it's still not considered breeding territory for much of the continent. So yeah the cities are wild lol
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Hm - Is Downtown Winnipeg considered 'The Wild' ? ???... ;D
I asked about judging the difference between the city and the wild. Or at least, that's what I was trying to ask -- hard to tell between life expectancy in the city and life expectancy in the wild. Sorry if I wasn't clear. :D
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oh or else I am just too tired that my brain isn't interpreting very well? :D
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In any case I guess Trey is getting to be a senior citizen - I hadn't really realized he was that ...er...mature. ;)
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Liz I think when the term "wild" is used it infers they are out and about on there own regardless of whether in a city or backcountry, versus, not in the wild as in raised in "captivity"
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No worries, eagle63. I prob just didn't say it right. It seems to be a middle-aged problem of mine -- think I've explained something that I really didn't!
I didn't realize Trey's age either! Typical male -- old guy with a young chick! (not sure if the pun is intended or not ;D) but the longer he stays with us, the better!
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Liz I think when the term "wild" is used it infers they are out and about on there own regardless of whether in a city or backcountry, versus, not in the wild as in raised in "captivity"
Okay. I meant -- totally on their own, unbanded, doing a natural ledge w/o anyone watching them in the wild (the way it used to be), as opposed to being in a place like the city or wherever, where they're being monitored. Just wondered if their natural life, before man started screwing up their environment, made a difference in how long they survived. And what the general life expectancy is now.
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Liz, this is God speaking to you, of course all my creatures faired much better before you two legged critters started messing up the environment.
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ROTFL!
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Ut oh TPC is online wonder if she'll delete the message from God roftlmao
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She might reprimand you! But since I wasn't offended and it was directed at me, perhaps not.
I sure don't envy her having to catch up on everything every night. I know it takes me more than an hour, and I get online at least three hours before she does -- way more chat, since I don't shut up! lol
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Hey all-I've read Tracy's entry on the mating for life, but have another question that I haven't seen answered. What about the off season? Are the birds together in the winter months or do they winter separately and find their way back to gether in the spring? Sorry if it's a dumb question, but enquiring minds......
It appears from all the satellite and band date collected that rarely do the pairs travel together outside the breeding season. Siblings in the first year I believe do do it a bit more frequently.
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She might reprimand you! But since I wasn't offended and it was directed at me, perhaps not.
I sure don't envy her having to catch up on everything every night. I know it takes me more than an hour, and I get online at least three hours before she does -- way more chat, since I don't shut up! lol
Sitting in my tree shivering with trepidation, so much so the branches are shaking too.
From the Peregrine Chick (call me Sandbox Goddess): yeah, I can see the branches moving there Eagle
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Okay, mass answer post ...
Wild - yes, downtown Winnipeg is wild. Differentiation is natural and urban habitats. Both have different hazards, equally deadly. Assistance from humans not necessarily of great help. Non-interference from humans (ie: not getting run over by a Hummer) IS a great help.
Captivity - includes birds hatched and/or raised in captivity and wild birds (chicks or adults) injured and unreleasable. Can be any age.
Life Expectancy - 15.5, not the average for most adult peregrines in the wild. Maximum life expectancy perhaps, depends where they are getting their numbers and what they are including.
Naming the Chicks - keep in mind that even in the photos, you all will never be able to tell one from another at the age and stage we lost them at. Can't even be sure of their gender based on size at this age. Naming them will be an abstract concept ... or you could choose something like "the Lost Chicks" and refer to them as a cohort rather than be unable to identify them individually by name. Just a thought. As for naming any future chicks, that will fall under the "choose a theme for the names" and then we'll have a contest to name them from a select group of names that fit the bill. And no, we will not be even considering names before we have eggs let alone chicks.
TPC
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*wipes brow with wing* I think it's safe now to leave my tree and head to my nest and get some shut eye :D Night all you Phanatics , sweet dreams.
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*wipes brow with wing* I think it's safe now to leave my tree and head to my nest and get some shut eye :D Night all you Phanatics , sweet dreams.
....remember who the nasty one is..... ;)
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LOL. Assuming I'm reading you right, Eye-spy, this is one post I won't agree with you on! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for the mass-answer Tracy... way easier! And I guess when I said "wild" I meant "natural habitat".
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Naming the Chicks - keep in mind that even in the photos, you all will never be able to tell one from another at the age and stage we lost them at. Can't even be sure of their gender based on size at this age. Naming them will be an abstract concept ... or you could choose something like "the Lost Chicks" and refer to them as a cohort rather than be unable to identify them individually by name.
Even if we cannot attatch a specific name to a specific chick, i think they still need individual names. If we pick three names, and refer to the chicks as such, it still gives them identity, even if its not gender or individual specific. Up to you Tracy, but 'the lost chicks' is just depressing. (sigh)..
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Well I googled it and couldn't find any site with the pronunciation. I did see that an 'aka' is Trgiaoh - so it may sound something like Ter-jee-oh... ??? - sounds good to me! ;D
Sounds good to me too...and I'm gonna go with that!!!! :)
Correct !... Ter-gee-oooh. Lol... its a weird one.
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Well I will start a new thread I guess. Seems ironic that today is Friday the 13th. Should have been last Friday. I expect we will continue to call last Friday, Black Friday however. Hope to hear more news today about Princess and Trey sightings! Motherhen? Pam? Hope all is well with everyone today. :)
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Morning all.
Hard to beleive the chicks have been gone for almost as long as they were here. sad. :-[
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For those who were unable to listen, Tracy was great on the radio (CBC) VERY EARLY this morning. I myself, I confress, was curled up under the covers listening carefully.......
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sure is sad. Thankfully we have had each other here in this forum to help get us through and start healing. Sure is nice to be able to log on and still have lots of comments to read. I certainly am still learning lots of things about peregrines because of this forum and reading all the great questions and TPC's answers.
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Goooooooooooooooooooooooodddddddddd Morning Canada (best Robin Williams imitation from Good Morning Vietnam) :) It's a Friday the 13th, hmmmmm not my favorite day, yes I am superstitious. It's a beautiful sunny day here, humid though. Catching up on my reading before I start in on my continued housecleaning, I ain't stopping til my apartment is cleaned from one end to the other.
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hmmm.. mississauga is not that far from London.. how much do you charge? lol.. housework has been suffering because I spend too much time HERE ! ::)
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lmao Loriann, only reason I am doing is because my superintendent kicked my in gear because the fire inspector was coming today. And yesterday my smoke detectors got installed. She can't stand clutter and I am a pack rat, so what does that tell you!
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Tells me you are not coming to clean my house any time soon..lol :'(
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ITS POETS day today.....bet you don't know what that means?? I never did mention last Friday in any of my comments. I am a very emotional Mother Hen.........Hard to believe one week ago today! I could not watch the news nor read about the resue. I cried for two solid days.I felt so incredibly sad and still do. BUT I have alot of hope that they will be parents again this year and all goes well if they do. IF not this year there is next year as Tracy said....Maybe yes maybe no! any ways I also was watching them with the spy glasses when Madame was the mother and Trey the father.
Tracy thanks for your explaination. This is still so cool to be able to watch this right in the Wild city we all call home.I am truly lucky to be sitting beside a window that looks on to the Radisson.
Tracy next question is Does Trey sit on the ledge if there are no babies or just Princess?? Princess sits with lovely white chest out for the world to see but one of them sits looking in and I can't tell
who that is! Help
POETS day is Piss on everthing tomarrow is Saturday!!!! Later Watchers and yes Princess is here. I have not seen Trey this morning.
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POETS day is Piss on everthing tomarrow is Saturday!!!! ;D
oh thats TOO funny ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well it's a gorgeous day and I just walked by the Radisson on my way to work - stopped & stood with my face to the sky for about 2 minutes - stared at the nestbox, the towers, saw NOTHING!! >:( - Don't seem to have any luck seeing P&T out & about - maybe next time!! ;D
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Tracy next question is Does Trey sit on the ledge if there are no babies or just Princess?? Princess sits with lovely white chest out for the world to see but one of them sits looking in and I can't tell who that is! Help
The lovely white chest is Trey, Princess has speckles up to her chin and there is much less white. Without actually seeing them through your binoculars, I'd say you are looking at Trey facing out. Look at size too - she is much larger than he is. Once you get used to gauging their sizes, even if the other one isn't around you can tell who is who.
Later Watchers and yes Princess is here. I have not seen Trey this morning.
Glad to hear one of them as around, nobody was when I went by about 6:30 this morning. There has been some activity in the nestbox though ... still doesn't mean they plan to re-nest ... will have to wait at least another week for news on that ...
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Tracy is really afraid we'll get our hopes up I think... ;) - I admit I'd be disappointed if they didn't re-nest - it's hard not to hope! We'd have to spend the whole summer just talking about sightings - no eggs, hatching, puffballs, feedings, chick heaps, fledging, weather watches, etc..... :-\ But we do hear your gentle reminders Tracy - it may not happen....... Still hoping though. ;D
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Sheila just spotted Princess (we think.....not positive, might be Trey!) up on the "O" of the Radisson, just sitting quietly. Saw them both yesterday.........
From the Peregrine Chick: FYI Phanatics - Pam can see the east side of the Hotel, Mother Hen watches the west.
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Thank for the update Tracy :D good to hear T&P have been in the nest box and like ballywing said you are making sure we do not get our hope's up ,but it is so hard not to ;) fingers and wing's still crossed
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Tracy is really afraid we'll get our hopes up I think... ;) - I admit I'd be disappointed if they didn't re-nest - it's hard not to hope! We'd have to spend the whole summer just talking about sightings - no eggs, hatching, puffballs, feedings, chick heaps, fledging, weather watches, etc..... :-\ But we do hear your gentle reminders Tracy - it may not happen....... Still hoping though. ;D
Don't give up hope, not yet folks, just don't get your hopes up too high. As for no sightings - you've got sightings now ;D As for no feedings, chick piles, fledgings, crash landings, funnel clouds (had one touchdown in St Andrews just north of the City this morning), we will still be providing reports on the Brandon birds who are just a few days younger than The Lost Chicks.
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Update, both are on the east side of the Radisson right now - Trey on the nest ledge and Princess on the Radisson sign. Sheila swears she heard them talking to each other.....
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Update, both are on the east side of the Radisson right now - Trey on the nest ledge and Princess on the Radisson sign. Sheila swears she heard them talking to each other.....
:P 'Hey big boy.. over here.. come hither' ;)
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I hope she's right! Perhaps they were discussing the Nosy Parkers who have invaded their bedroom! lol
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Last note about naming the chicks ... I think I shan't be naming the individual chicks. (I'll be talking about this in the blog later today just so you all know) Part of our relationship with nature is that we mostly are disconnected/isolated from it. When we do get involved with parts of it, it is rarely dangerous and we remain in control of the situation, which though we think we are "getting back to nature" really isn't, or at least isn't in the context of wildlife. Part of our isolation/disconnection from nature is our desire to have a personal connection with an individual rather than the species. That's a bit of a problem. If we can only see the trees around us, we won't notice when the rest of the forest has been destroyed. If we only protect the trees around us, we are condemning the rest of the forest to be destroyed.
So, naming the dead chicks, which by the way a couple of folks are more than a little "creeped" out about, I'm going to find a middle point. No individual names for the chicks, but rather "The Lost Chicks", which y'all can abbreviate to TLC which is really what naming these chicks is all about isn't it? It has seemed to me that naming these chicks isn't so much for identification but rather in celebration of their short lives. Post humous TLC. I hope you will all approve of my choice.
Have proposed a middle point on the photo on the CBC Falcon Cam page as well, new photo but link to the story below or some such. Will let you all know how it goes.
The Peregrine Chick
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Tracy, TLC works for me. Good middle ground, you found. :)
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TLC. Good name, and Trey and Princess showed lots of TLC!
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And the TLC had lots of TLC from us, even if we were only able to do it in our thoughts and by viewing the webcam! TLC is a very warm-hearted name. I like it, too. :)
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Tracy, I am glad we're going with a group name of The Lost Chicks (TLC). I felt a little odd about giving individual names when we would have no way of knowing which individual had which name - this is a great solution and I appreciate you bringing it forth.
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Yeah TLC very good middle ground name. I like it.
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Tracy
Thanks for that valuable information..... I alway thought that she was the one looking out but it is Trey.........she must be the one that faces inward. I can tell the difference but not always. To all the fathers in the group have a Great Fathers day! Talk to you on monday.
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I like TLC as well.
Just wanted to report my sighting on the way home. I was stopped at a light on Portage, staring right at the nest ledge thinking about last weeks events. I was in the middle imagining how the rappel must have looked from the street when all of the sudden someone flew out of the nest ledge and up up up in the direction of the new Hydro building. I'm guessing it was Princess or Trey, can't be certain though. Would they even let other birds into the area of the nest ledge?
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OH - TLC! - Love it - what a great idea. ;D - and I'm really glad Trey & Princess are talking to each other, but if they're on the East 'nest-ledge' side of the building I hope they're saying...." Dear, let's agree to not nest here again, let's go over to the West Side Penthouse Nestbox instead, K Dear???" ;D
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Oh! I like TLC. Lovely choice for a group name.
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I like TLC as well.
Just wanted to report my sighting on the way home. I was stopped at a light on Portage, staring right at the nest ledge thinking about last weeks events. I was in the middle imagining how the rappel must have looked from the street when all of the sudden someone flew out of the nest ledge and up up up in the direction of the new Hydro building. I'm guessing it was Princess or Trey, can't be certain though. Would they even let other birds into the area of the nest ledge?
yes all this talk of sightings is awesome, but I want to be sure I know where they are being seen. Is it in the nest box way up on the 30 floor or are you talking about where they just finished nesting on the 13th.. Finding it confusing, nest ledge? I hope its the nest box,, but am starting to think its the same place as before, as thats on the east side, and isn't the penthouse box on the west side??
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I really like "The Lost Chicks" aka TLC as the referral to the chicks. It is so fitting. Just like others said...when you think about it...they were so small and young...we wouldn't know who was who. TLC is really nice.
Part of me hopes P & T have more chicks this year and yet part of me doesn't. I just get so attached and then I worry. My kids even tell me I worry too much and they keep telling me to chill. I know...I need more positive thinking.
I would be nice to see the little white balls of fluff grow into gorgeous Falcons tho. I did love watching them last year. So I guess I am more hoping yes.
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Deedreem I'm pretty sure the 'Nest-Ledge' is the place they just finished nesting on the East side at the 13th floor. And the 'Nest-Box' is on the West side, at the 30th floor. So I think it's better for them to be hanging around at the Nest Box, not at the Nest Ledge! -we don't want any repeats of eggs and chicks on that ledge. :o :o ............(Of course that is IF they re-nest.. ;D)
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Tracy has mentioned that the nest ledge is used for other reasons than nesting, like courting!
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Thanks for explaining ballywing. Sorry I wasn't more clear deedream, yes I was referring to the east side nest ledge, where they just finished nesting.
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Yes that ledge has lots of other uses for them - so they can court, eat, nap, play, suntan & party at that ledge all they want - just as long as they don't nest there....!! ;D ;D
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Yes that ledge has lots of other uses for them - so they can court, eat, nap, play, suntan & party at that ledge all they want - just as long as they don't nest there....!! ;D ;D
ha ha,, thats my thinking too! thanks all for clearing that up. :)
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What a quiet night at the forum? Everyone out partying on this Friday night?
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No, just watching Elk River and playing a computer game. I have no life! ::)
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No, but our youngest has a dozen of her closest friends over for pizza, so hubby and I hanging out in the TV room.
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Don't feel bad Liz, I don't have a life either ??? ::)
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Have been out all day and just finished reading all the forum and I also like TLC I think it suit's our little ones .
It is a bit quite tonight only took me 20 minutes to read the forum .
anyone know if mother hen work's weekends or will we have to wait till monday for some new report .looking forward to when every they come. :)
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I think Mother Hen said, "Have a good weekend" so I guess she's not at work again until Monday.
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I recall that, too, Liz. So, maybe a few of you who live in Winnipeg could stake out some good 'spying' spots on the downtown Winnipeg streets, or that bridge thingy I read about.... Inquiring readers/webcammers/forum members/phanatics in other provinces and cities want to know all the goings-on over the weekend! I mean, it's not like any of us have given P and T any privacy over the last several weeks, anyway! A glimpse here and a glimpse there would be greatly appreciated! :D
Have a good weekend, everyone!
(oh ya, and if you are out and looking up...be safe!! :) )
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Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooddd d Morning Phanatics. (imitating Robin Williams again :) )
All is quiet and given that I will start the ball rolling for today. I'm up early by my standards lol, couldn't sleep. They are forecasting a mixed bag of weather here in London, who knows what we will really get, just have to wait and see. Hope Princess and Trey and an enjoyable Friday night.
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good morning. the sun has finally come out here this morning,but not for long. we are told that it will be like this until the end of June..How are we all doing today????
What ever happens here this year I hope Princess and Trey stick close by . Always nice to hear reports of the adults even after fledging.
Have a great day everyone. today is the start of a bright new day. Make the most of it :) :)
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I really wish I'd caught Tracy on CBC radio yesterday morning - too darn early though!! :o - Nice day so far. ....hmmm....I think we're going to run out of chat if P&T don't re-nest soon. Still at least another week to wait. Hope there are at least lots of sightings!! - I don't think Mother Hen is there on wknds with her binocs though. Maybe Tracy will see them. Might be a quiet couple of days. Meantime I guess I'll turn on the Elk River cam - not the same but it's still a 'fix' of sorts. Have a good wknd phellow phanatics!!! ;D
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Yeah I've got the Elk River Cam on too
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Me too, as always. I've been watching them all long, so they aren't a total 'replacement' for TLC for me, but still not quite the same.
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I must disabuse you of the notion that Friday the 13th is somehow unlucky!
13 is linked to the lunar calendar (13 moons in a year) and is linked to women and moons. It is likey misogyny, beginning with mistrust of women and extending to all things female, that motivated people to think that the number thirteen is unlucky.
Not everyone thinks Friday the 13th is unlucky. It is Friday in some English-speaking cultures, Sweden, Russia, Belgium and Germany or a Tuesday in the Greek and Spanish-speaking world.
Other people think of 13 as a very lucky number. (From Wikipedia)
Lucky 13
In Sikhism, the number 13 is considered a special number since 13 is tera in Punjabi, which also means "yours" (as in, "I am yours, O Lord"). The legend goes that when Guru Nanak Dev was taking stock of items as part of his employment with a village merchant, he counted from 1 to 13 (in Punjabi) as one does normally; and thereafter he would just repeat "tera", since all items were God's creation. The merchant confronted Guru Nanak about this, but found everything to be in order after the inventory was checked. April 13 also usually turns out to be Vaisakhi every year, which is the Sikh New Year and the major Sikh Holiday.
Several successful athletes have worn the number 13. Alex Rodriguez is said to be one of the most talented baseball players ever; he has also signed the biggest sports contract and wears the number 13. Dan Marino, an American football player known for passing more yards than any other quarterback in NFL history, wore the number 13, although pundits in the sport have often cited him as the greatest quarterback never to win an NFL championship. Basketball great Wilt Chamberlain wore the number 13 on his jersey throughout his NBA career. Also, FIBA rules require a player to wear the number in international competitions (only numbers from 4 to 15 could be worn, and as there are 12 players, one must wear 13); Chris Mullin, who wore #20 in college and #17 in the NBA, wore #13 for both (1984 and 1992) of his Olympic appearances. Shaquille O'Neal wore #13 in 1996, Tim Duncan wore #13 in 2004, Steve Nash is currently wearing it for the Phoenix Suns, and also Mats Sundin, wears 13 in the NHL. One of Iceland's all time best handball players, Sigurður Sveinsson, wore the number 13 when he played for the national team.
In Italy, 13 is also considered to be a lucky number.
Colgate University also considers 13 to be a lucky number. They were founded in 1817 by 13 men with 13 dollars, 13 prayers, and 13 articles. (To this day, members of the Colgate community consider the number 13 a good omen.) In fact, the campus address is 13 Oak Drive in Hamilton, NY and the all men a capella group is called the Colgate 13.
In tattoo culture, where symbols often represent the opposite of their most obvious meaning, 13 sometimes symbolizes good luck, especially in "old school" style tattoos.
So on with LUCKY Friday the 13th! If you can't go that far at least this will give you something to consider.
Thinking positive thoughts!
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That's really interesting; and good to learn something new every day! Thanks, Peggeratheart.
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I'm glad you brought that up, Peggeratheart!
I always think of Friday the 13th as lucky, but mostly for personal reasons: my longtime friend celebrated her birthday yesterday on the 13th and my first niece was born on Friday the 13th in Sept. 2002! So, for me, Friday the 13ths are special and always will be.
I am glad to now also know of the historical and cultural background info on links to the feminine, moons, and and religion. Thanks!
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Hi everyone,
Same for me, Liz, with the Elk River chicks. Seeing them hatch has created a bond for me, and of course that long night worrying about the mum's beak ( ::) ), but definately not in the same way with TLC --- I woke up this morning and realized it's been a complete week of mornings with out TLC and P & T to check in on. Here's hoping for some action between P & T in the next week or so (and yes, a big IF, but one can still hope! ;D)
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What is this about the mum's beak????? Is there any news on this?
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No worries about the Elk River mum's beak, Allikat! I was referring to a night about two weeks ago or so, where myself, Liz, and Deedream were concerned that something was stuck around part or all of mum's beak....we watched her for hours and asked the Peregrine Chick about it, etc., but it was inconclusive about what we saw. In the morning, it eventually seemed to resolve itself and TPC said it could have been part of a leg or some such 'food' part still sticking out of the beak while the swallowed part was beginning the digestive process in the crop. Anyway, whatever it was, it ended well and three of us recovered from the night of worry (whether it was warranted or not!) In the Elk River Minnesota thread part 1, the whole story should be laid out post by post if you're still interested...
Sorry to cause any concern by my referral to the event! :)
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My grandmother was born on Friday the 13th, at 2:13 in the morning, in 1913! So 13 has always been a good number around our house. She lived to a ripe old age, and only passed away a few years back.
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Thanks for clearing that up for me...Ever since the loss of the Radisson chicks, I just couldn't bare any other bad news.... I am completely in love with Peregrines. Evere since one landed on a roof of a garage about 20 feet from me, I was hooked! :-*
Trey is my favorite....Sorry Tracy but you have some competition! ;D
I have been watching the Minnesota bird cam as well as the Ohio bird cam as much as I can....I wish I could watch all day and night but....
I have all fingers, toes and unmentionable crossed for T & P to re-nest but if they don't, I have prayed that they both return next (Trey please come back) year and nest on the proper side of the Radisson Hotel...I actually have an idea about the east side nestledge, in case of future nesting!!!!!
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There's a thread about how to improve the nest ledge where other members have been sharing their ideas...sounds like you should do that, too, allikat!
How amazing to have a peregrine land so close to you!
I always try the Ohio site, but I usually have trouble getting on...
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Wow, Pchemist, all those 13s in your grandma's birthdate and time is very cool! Neat when things like that happen!
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Hi Enraptured....
Thanks for the info about the thread of how to improve the nest ledge...I'm new to the Forum so I really have no idea what I'm doing!!!! :-[
It was absolutely incredible that a peregrine landed that close!!!! All of a sudden, we heard this high pitched hawk like sounding bird and then, we saw the peregrine! :o
It was amazing!!!!
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The nest-ledge improvement thread is a little further down under this Radisson Peregrines heading. I think it's called How can this particular nest site be improved? and was started by MLH.
By the way, did the peregrine stay on the garage for very long? Or did it not seem to notice or mind about your presence? Pretty low landing spot!
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Actually...NO, for some reason the peregrine wasn't at all uncomfortable! We were all in shock and we didn't want to move! I agree that it was a very low landing spot but the peregrine seemed pretty content...actually from what I remember, the peregrine stayed there for about 5 mins.
Again...thanks for the info on the thread...if I can manage to figure the forum out, I'll post my idea!
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Sounds like you had a rare and very cool experience with a peregrine!! 8)
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yeah I share the same birthday as you niece , but I was a Thursday although my Dad tries to say it was a Friday , but I also like Friday the 13th . ;D
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I guess we've talked ourselves out, eh? It's after 6:30 pm here and I just got back from an afternoon of errands, expecting to see some kind of activity -- nothing in any topic at all! Well maybe in about 10 days, we'll have,
"June 2_ -- EGGS!!!!!"
(I know Tracy, big IF.) :) :) :)
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Cool. I love to hear about stories of lucky 13!
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Mighty quiet I kept checking every once in a while and no one was online.
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Happy Fatheres Day to any FAthers on line.
Here is hoping this week shows promise.
Just had to check in.
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I too checked in a few times Sunday, but there wasn't anything to talk about. I guess it'll stay pretty quiet until.. (If, If, If, If... ;D) - T&P give us something exciting to talk about!!! - Mother Hen if you see them today maybe you can start a June 16th thread.. :) I didn't really want to start one talking about nothing.. :-\ Have a good day folks, at least it's gorgeous weather!
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It would be great to hear from Mother Hen or Pam on any new's and sighting they may have. :o
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nothing today!!!! Now I am worried! Ususally see one for sure but not today....Yikes I am on guard now.
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I can now rest.....Trey was here a few minutes ago and just took off and flew west. He was sitting on his ususal tower. Hoping Princess is busy in the nest! I have not given up hope yet.
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Phew!! - Oh there will be no giving up allowed! - at least not until Tracy tells us we have to ...she said it takes at least 2 weeks, so maybe by this time next week (long time to wait!! ::) ) - we'll know more. Meantime - keep up the sightings info Mother Hen - Thanks!! ;D
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Glad to hear you saw Trey Mother Hen! I went passed the Raddison a few times over the weekend and saw nothing. My friends think I'm silly when I walk down the street with my face straight up in the air!
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Not so silly EB, when I was downtown for the CBC interview, I took a swing past the Hotel too and when I couldn't seem them, went and parked so that I could take a long walk around. Wandered all over the place looking for either of the birds, but no luck. On the other hand their not being around was good luck for me in that it provided me with the perfect opportunity to check out the nestbox and they/one of them has most definitely been in the box playing around.
Only a few more days until I go back to check ...
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No sightings from the east side of the hotel today at all......glad to hear Mother Hen saw Trey!
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I am glad Mother Hen spotted Trey.
It is so nice and warm out there today. Probably the nicest day we have had here in Winnipeg for a long time and the week is just supposed to keep getting warmer.
Not sure if P & T like the hot weather or not.
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Not sure if P & T like the hot weather or not.
They have dealt with some scorchers over the years ... and those were years they used the nestbox!!
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Hello
Just saw Tracy's pic of the Loggerhead Shrike,,,beautiful,and what a nice caption too!!!
Also read the two posts Other Nations-The Quote..actually went back and re-read...very meaningful and insightful.We can learn so much from our feathered friends. I think on P & T's great parenting skills.
Thank you Tracy.....a bright light in a rainy foggy day...Awesome
Cheers
Marie
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Tracy
Was just wondering, if P & T do nest again (and I said if :) ) , would if be normal for them to lay 3 to 4 eggs again, or would the number drop to 1 or 2 ?
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I must agree that quote was absolutely beautiful. And such a precious picture of the loggerhead shrike.
I don't get many chances to go downtown and look for P&T but this weekend I drove through, right past the Radisson. Unfortunately I was the one driving and wouldn't you know it, managed to hit all green lights. Always when you're in a hurry you get nothing but reds this time I wouldn't have minded a couple and couldn't even get one! My husband was a little nervous in the passenger seat and kept looking up to figure out what I was looking at or for. Good thing traffic was a little slow at least! hehehe. Didn't see anything after all that though :-\
I finally got the nerve back to check out the Great River Energy cam. I haven't had the heart since Black Friday. I can't believe how big those guys have gotten!! :o
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Tuesday morning and no sighting today as yet!
Tracy would they move and nest somewhere else at this late date? Sure hope not. I enjoy watching them fly around. I am still watching and will let you know if I do spot them.What a beatiful picture of the baby you were holding Tracy.... you are lucky to have this job.
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Hey P&T had better NOT move! - they have a lovely penthouse nestbox and all their Radisson fans - keep us posted MH!! 8)
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Let's try this again. My second attempt. No sighting today Jun 17 as yet.
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T & P will not move now and renest (if they do)somwhere else would they?? Tell me NOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I will keep an eye out and let you if spotted.
Nice picture of the baby.....you are very lucky to have this job.
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Was just wondering, if P & T do nest again (and I said if :) ) , would if be normal for them to lay 3 to 4 eggs again, or would the number drop to 1 or 2 ?
If Trey and Princess re-nest, it will probably be 1-2 eggs but they might not all hatch out. They have used so much of the energy reserves already on their first clutch, they really just do not have enough for a second full nest and the viability of the eggs is less as well. If they do renest, and they sit past about three weeks, then you can pretty sure that something will hatch. Usually the birds know if there is a problem with an egg and they will either remove it (like they did this year) or they will just ignore it (like the Elk River birds).
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A beautiful day, but again no sightings of either Princess or Trey today from our vantage point!
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Maybe they went to the beach? :D
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Who could blame them!
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LOL -- maybe they did! It's the first day we've had that feels like summer might actually come! I sat on Donald today for about 20 minutes, neck craned, peering up at the roof. Not a bird in sight. Or at least, not a big one. I saw something flying way up high overtop, so high I kept losing it, and every once in awhile there'd be a white flash (breast feathers in the sun, I assume). Then I saw a second one and got really excited -- Oh, they're both up there!!! And then they came closer and I could see white underneath-wings with black tips, and had to concede they were probably seagulls. sigh. Another day of no sightings. I wish Princess would perch on the J for a bit! She seems to like it better in the afternoon when the warm sun is shining on it, but I haven't seen her there in a couple of weeks. Of course, there's been no sun... :P
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I was waiting for the bus right across from the Radisson at 6:30pm - got a full 5 minutes of neck-craning in.....but saw nothing except a few seagulls. :-\ - I hope P&T haven't flown the coop!!! - nah, too soon to be paranoid. ;D
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btw, if any of you are ever standing/sitting around the hotel, staring upwards, and a middle-aged brunette asks you what your screen name is, it's probably me asking! lol ;) ;D
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I have faith - they'll be here til fall, even if it's just the two of them. :D
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Wednesday morning and not a peregrine in site......I am starting the withdrawal syptoms. I feel quite sad that I have not seen them yesterday and so far today. Got caught in traffic and looked all the way home with no luck.Are they living somewhere else??
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THERE IS A HELICOPTER CIRCLING THE DOWNTWON AREA......PERHAPS THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR TREY AND PRINCESS.....IS THAT YOU TRACY??? LOL
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Okay for all you working folks take heart in knowing today is hump day, soon it will be the weekend and then you will be too busy doing summer stuff to post in here lol
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I fell for the same old thing people warned about driving through downtown. My head was cranked way too far up, trying to spot the pair.
I haven't had time to read the other posts. I think I saw the nesting box on the way back, and maybe one of the birds sitting on top. I pulled over to take a picture, but I leave my car unlocked sometimes, and the backup camera was missing. (I was hoping the 3x zoom would give me enough detail to know if the brown blob was a falcon or a camera.)
Next Sunday I hope to remember to take my best long lens camera, and take a picture or two. If they turn out, I will post them on Flickr and put a link in here. Meanwhile, are the birds still in the area?
skypilot
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T & P will not move now and renest (if they do)somwhere else would they?? Tell me NOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I will keep an eye out and let you if spotted.
At this point, either they will nest again or they won't. Which ever they do, they won't give up the Radisson territory. As for not seeing them today, could be that they are just about to lay eggs (they tend to get quiet or disappear right before laying - did it in April right before the first egg) or they are just going further afield to hunt today, perhaps because of the weather.
Nice picture of the baby.....you are very lucky to have this job.
Wish that I got to work full-time with the birds :D. I do a bit of contract work besides my full-time job, the peregrines is one (pretty much all volunteer) and this year doing some work with Loggerhead Shrikes which might cover my expenses, might not.
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They seem to be, though I couldn't give you times that are best for viewing them I'm afraid. I'll be checking the nest box shortly and if they are re-nesting, you will pretty much be able to see the non-incubating adult around for much of the day for the next month.
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I SEE TREY!!!!!! I see Trey talked about getting excited.Holy Cow! He is on the tower,short one next to the tall one.I am so glad that he is still around.
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YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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He's still there, though he's jumped up to a slightly higher tower. Sheila is convinced that she saw Princess go into the nestbox - did you see that, Mother Hen??
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Yay!!!!!!!!!!! Yahoo! Whoo!!!! I bet she is in there! LOL
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I'm so glad to hear that, because I parked myself across Portage this afternoon and stared up at the hotel for ages. The only bird I saw in the sky was the traffic whirlybird! lol
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It's so good to have someone on the frontlines :D I'm happy they are still being spotted. Well, one of them anyway. Talk about excitement! You all sound like I did last night when I saw the Brandon family. ;D
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Our boy has been sited....sitting on the tower looking around this morning Jun 19. I have not seen Princess this week. Is she nesting? This morning, looking thru my sun roof I noticed a bunch of pigeons chasing a larger bird?? Not sure what that was about? Will pigeons chase the peregrines away from their nest? Any one see Princess these last few days?
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Yay!!!- ;D - keep an eye out for Princess MH..., maybe she's in the box?? - I'd think pigeons would be afraid of peregrines, not chase them around? ???
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Its crow harassment season at the moment. Watched a crow try to defend itself in mid-air from a merlin that was giving it grief. The crow would flip over to try to grap the merlin (or at least warn the merlin that s/he was going to fight back) with his feet. Merlin was quick and smart enough not to come that close. Wicked size difference - just goes to prove that size ain't everything ;D
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lol, TPC! Okay, so I know they're all God's creatures, but I wouldn't miss a few crows!
I'm glad Trey was spotted today, because I'm on day 4 this week w/o seeing either one of them. Frustrating! I'll go on the theory that they are nesting, and forgive them when the camera comes back on! :D
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Trey was on the tower for quite a while today, got a couple of pictures (which I'll send you tonight, Tracy). Not great, but proof that he's there! He flew around a bit right in front of my window this morning, too - gorgeous. I wasn't fast enough with the camera that time!
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I'm obviously picking the wrong times because I look at those darned towers frequently, and I've haven't seen him once this year. Saw him lots last year. But I will keep on watching! Thanks, Pam.
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What building are you looking from, Liz? I'm in the Kensington.......I'm trying not to make a habit of posting during working hours.........but I could make an exception if NEED be!
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I'm at 360 Main -- Commodity Exchange Tower, often but incorrectly called "The Trizec Building". But I'm not in watching the blog during the day so I wouldn't see a post. Thanks for offering, tho! Maybe you could call me?? And which one is the Kensington Bldg, btw? I looked yesterday for names on bldgs looking specifically for that, but didn't see it. Not that I read all of the names!
And I assume Mother Hen is in Newport Centre...?
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I'm at 275 Portage - kitty-corner to the Radisson. I have a great view of the nest ledge, but can't see the west side/nest box. I was thinking that MH is in the Rogers Building, which looks to me like there would be a great view of the nest box, hadn't thought about the Newport...
Sure, I could call you when we see him - do you have a good view of the tower on the Radisson?
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I have a totally clear view of the hotel from the window, but of course three blocks away. But nothing in the way. I'll PM you my phone number?
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Hey Liz can I have your number tooooooooo rotflmao
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sure, or email - whichever you prefer! As for you, Eagle - settle down, I got there first!
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rotflmao Pam, hey it's a quiet night here in my neck of the woods I gotta have a little fun now and again lmao but hey I'll just sit here and enjoy my bowl of FRESH strawberries ;D
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Eagle, I can't remember where you are? Obviously, somewhere there are fresh strawberries (which isn't here, I don't think.....).........
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London, Ontario
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Hey Liz can I have your number tooooooooo rotflmao
sure, or email - whichever you prefer! As for you, Eagle - settle down, I got there first!
It's a local call for Pam, eagle63!!
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Hey, Eagle, I will be in London in early July!
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You will? Oh wow, you have family here?
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Nope, friend. Have to make a business trip to Guelph, so will tie in a visit to my friend in London. She (amazingly) is not a phanatic!
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Not yet anyway lol
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I'm working on her!
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See this is what happens on the Radisson thread when there's no action going on with our peregrines. Phanatics talking about strawberries & phone numbers & London - lol - quite hilarious really. ;D ....I think we need some eggs!! 8)
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there is lots of action going on in Ontario Falcon with the fledging of falcons. I do not know how much you follow but 4 nests fledged all at once. Poor Mark Nash has his hands full as does his helpers. One tried to hitch a ride on a tour bus at the Sheraton Toronto :) :)
Hop e you see action here .
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POETS FOLKS!!! Our boy Trey is on the lower tower right is minute. I work in the Air Canada building and sit by a window that looks directly at the Radisson so can't help but see. I am close enough to see without the spy glasses and can even watch them fly up high. I knew when I got this great spot on the south side of this building that the peregrines nested on Radisson so hence spy glasses were brought in and I have watched the falcons for approx 9-10 years. First time I saw them this year was Mar 29 flying around together,back and forth, back and forth.What I great thing to see,isn't it??
Later people!
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Yay!! - Good to hear Trey is front & center. Anybody seen Princess lately?? ??? - could she possibly be busy sitting on some ......eggs....?? ;D........Mother Hen I think some days you could sell tickets for time slot rental of your desk!! ;D
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Indeed Bally, Mother hen could sell tickets and then donate the money to the Recovery Project :)
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Excellent idea Eagle!!! -I'm sure her boss wouldn't mind a troop of Phanatics lined up in the office now & then! ;) Good cause after all! 8)
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Tracy
I am concerned that I have not spotted Princess this week?? She didnt take off did she?
It would be nice if I could sell tickets to the Greatest Show on Earth! You would not believe what I can see from here.
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Well sell tickets for a block of time at your desk lmao
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Hey motherhen. Well Tracy has said time and time again, that they won't take off from here no matter what. It is there territory. Also they are partners so one would never leave I would not think. If Princess is nesting, then that is great, but because you are sure you have not seen her all week, not even once, that bothers me, as we all know Trey sits on the eggs also, so surely she would be out flying around from time to time. Oh dear, always something for us to worry about isn't there? If another falcon had challenged Princess for the nest and for Trey, you would have seen it, or the "new"falcon" flying about. The only things it can be is that, a) Princess nesting (and just timing that you never seen her off eggs when she took a break)b) Princess has had an accident(and has not been found or seen to confirm it)c)Princess still around but prefers to perch on the other side of the Radisson and you just havnt seen her lately. I pick a) Perhaps she is on day shift and Trey sits on the eggs at night and that is why you have not seen her. Fingers crossed that Tracy can tell us "something" this weekend. She said she is checking the nestbox this weekend!
You are absolutely positive its always Trey and never Princess you see? I know,, you can tell them apart after all these years, but had to ask anyways. ;) ;)
You have a wonderful place to work to be able to see them flying about Motherhen, I appreciate your posts letting us know what you see (and don't see) , it keeps us close and involved even without the webcam. Thanks so much!!
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i was walking in the overpass from portage place and stopped to look at the radisson about an hour ago, and i saw 2 large birds flying back and forth and around the radisson. Perhaps both P&T?
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i was walking in the overpass from portage place and stopped to look at the radisson about an hour ago, and i saw 2 large birds flying back and forth and around the radisson. Perhaps both P&T?
Gosh lets hope so msdolittle!
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Not one hunderd percent sure it's Trey but don't forget he always like to sit up there.
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I look forward to Tracy's findings when she checks the nest this weekend!! :) - hopefully there ARE some findings! ;D
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All this staring out the window and not seeing anything is starting to get to me. Plus, some of my co-workers think I'm nuts! lol
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I think alot of us are on the 'looney bin' list with our co-workers. :P - Too bad, they don't know what they're missing. 8)
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So true! lol :o
I'd better get off before the wrath of Big Brother comes down on my head. Later, folks!
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FINALLY!!!!! I just saw Trey leave the tower, do a swoop over the MTS Centre, and then land on the east-side Radisson sign. (I assume it was him since those are his two favourite spots.)
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Good! - Now where is his spouse?? ???
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Birthin' babies, I hope! :D
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Hey the CBC Falcon Page now has a pic of ...Trey?? - on top of the drain vent at the nest ledge! - Great pic!! ;D
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I think that's a pic Pam took of Trey. Bee-oo-tee-ful! (Princess has a gold breast, not white. I believe that's correct...)
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I just had to do it... :P ;D
FINALLY!!!!! I just saw Trey leave the tower, do a swoop over the MTS Centre, and then land on the east-side Radisson sign. (I assume it was him since those are his two favourite spots.)
I also thought I could see something white on the nestledge earlier in the day. I really need to bring my binocs to work!
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Hmmm, actually, I think you're right Liz! I took that (or one just like it) on June 13 & sent them to Tracy. Could see Trey on the ledge and Princess was on the Radisson sign at the same time.
Was looking for your phone number when Trey (I think?) took off from the tower - glad you saw him!
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and a camera!
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Me too -- it made my whole week! First time I've seen either one of them actually in the air, this year.
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Yeah... all the cats are away next week, so the mice can play! ;D
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wooohoooo Liz gets to play next week!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And the mouse can bring binocs! lol
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lmao too funny
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It's 29 in my livingroom! That's what -- 84 in old people language? (fahrenheit, for oldies like me who aren't quite sure how hot is hot!)
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So it's me, Enraptured and falconval on at almost 2 am. Talking about our cats! lol.
I hope tomorrow (later today) brings new sightings of our pair, or Trey at least! I'm still thinking Princess is AWOL because she's working on a new clutch....talons and feathers crossed!
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Liz! I forgot about the time difference -- it's been fun, but you've got to go to bed!!! :) It's only 12am here (and I seem to recall FalconVal is in BC, too) so it's not that late in relation to your time.
I'm glad you started this new thread, though. I'm really hoping, too, that Trey is spotted later today and that Princess is discovered in the nest box when Tracey checks it!
Criss-crossing everything! :)
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Like you said Liz ,let's hope we get some new's on out boy Trey and our lady Princess tomorrow .
I better go to bed soon as I have alot of work to do tomorrow so good night you two lot's of birdie and cat dream's lol :)
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You are right Enraptured I am in BC, Nanaimo
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We're very close then, because I'm in Victoria!
I too, am going to have to call it a night pretty soon. Hopefully we'll wake adn log on later today and be greeted with good news our Trey and Princess have been seen!
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You saw my post from the 20th (or 19th) that I actually saw Trey on Friday?!! I was SO happy to see him. First time this year. And I'm really hoping that not seeing Princess in the last few days means she's nesting. :D :D :D
Trey left the tower on the Radisson (where he sits when there are chicks, as T had told us), flew overhead for a short time, and then when to his other special place, the east-side Radisson sign.
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Yahoo! I was so glad to hear you'd seen Trey! I had so much catch up reading to do as I'd not been online for three days that by the time I was finished, I was wiped out! I do remember though, thinking 'oh, good. Liz got to see one of the falcons!' I know you've been wanting to and trying to for so long! I hope you see him again soon -- perhaps your luck with have changed now and sighting will be a regular treat!
I'm really hopeful that Princess' excuse for her absence is also that she's nesting!! ;D
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I'm really hopeful that Princess' excuse for her absence is also that she's nesting!! ;D
I'm hoping so!
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Okay today is the first offical day of Summer!! And it's cloudy here and it's 20C (not sure what it is in Farenheit) Got my talons and wings crossed for news of Princess and Trey. Yeah I was up late too and had to call it a night about 8 hours ago lol. Hope you have a good weekend.
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Wow! - Do you guys ever sleep :o - It's good to have people to talk to in the middle of the night isn't it - So now we wait for Tracy's report. I wonder if she'll be going to the nestbox today or tomorrow? ??? She knows we're holding our breath so maybe she'll go today. Gorgeous here in Wpg, nice day to get some good news. ;D
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morning all...
check out the updates from our mississauga falcons.. a little sad, a little happy. some good pictures on the updates.
http://www.peregrine-foundation.ca/tops/missmec.html
have a great weekend everyone...
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It's 29 in my livingroom! That's what -- 84 in old people language? (fahrenheit, for oldies like me who aren't quite sure how hot is hot!)
Or in "american" language, since we do it in Fahrenheit. I use both, because we use Celcius in the lab - though Fahrenheit is a finer scale, Celcius is easier to convert to Kelvin (which is what we really use).
Easy conversion (for "normal-ish" temps is Celcius*2 + 30) so 29 would be 29*2+30 = 88. Not perfect, but easier to do in your head. To do it perfect it's Celcius*1.8+32. I have a quick way to do that too, but now I'm showing my geek-factor too much. ;)
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Awww that is so sad.. :'( - typical brothers, picking on their poor sister. Fledging is such a dangerous time for them, what a shame. :(
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Brooke's last flight sounded so harsh. The photo is strangely bittersweet. I could see the gorgeous mature wild creature she was becoming, mixed with the young one she had been.
Too much projection of bird's lives onto our reality. It's grad party time, human teenagers
die because of lack of judgement over driving skills.
Fledging is indeed a dangerous time.
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Oh I have to try and remember that conversion Pchemist,, I am always trying to convert it for Mom. We talk about weather a lot! lol My outdoor thermometer is celcius only (the other one I had that did both broke), so I say well it is 24C and she does not really know what that is until I say well its about 78F. lol
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Hey Pchemist, I've been wondering, does Pchemist=physical chemistry?
Last night over dinner our family was discussing the relative merits of degrees Farenheit, celcius and Kelvin. Oh well call us geeks.
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Don't get us started on the subject of geeks lmao
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Yep, pchem is physical chemistry. That's my field of geek-ness. Along with many others, but gas-phase ion-molecule quantum chemistry is what I like best. ;D
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.......gas-phase ion-molecule quantum chemistry is what I like best. ;D
....ACK...!!!!!! ??? :o Yikes!! :P
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.......gas-phase ion-molecule quantum chemistry is what I like best. ;D
....ACK...!!!!!! ??? :o Yikes!! :P
Yeah. I get that a lot. I also like my garden (flowers) and my carpentry (our own house, which we hope to move into by the end of the summer!!!). So hopefully I'm more "normal" now? ;)
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Pchemist, I'm quite sure you are normal. One of my best friends is a chemist, and she is also quite normal. Which gas phase molecular ions in particular?
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Pchemist, I'm quite sure you are normal. One of my best friends is a chemist, and she is also quite normal. Which gas phase molecular ions in particular?
Most of my work has been on small molecules of atmospheric or mass spectrometric interest - oxygen, nitric oxide, nitrous oxide, and O4 (which doesn't have its own name...) and their ions - looking at how they react, isotope effects in reactions and dissociations, and such. Also some work on cluster ions. In my past, because now I manage research partnerships instead of having my own lab. Which is fun in a different way. :D
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Hey all we need in this Phanatics world is to be an animal/wildlife lover - Geek or Goth, Mover or Movie Star -!! - hee ;D
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Tracy, I've been perusing through the various webcams, sites pertaining to Peregrines and have read on more than one occasion that the males tend to fledge before the females, it that because the males are smaller and lighter in weight?
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It's gone from a nice day here to severe thunderstorm warning with the possibilty of hail, and the always-added-on possible tornado. The wind has kicked up and thunder is rolling overhead.
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I thought we were going to get some nasty weather but it's fizzling out which is fine. Just raining here.
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Where are you ? Toronto ,Manitoba ?
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I'm in Winnipeg and eagle63 is in London, ON.
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Right, what she said lol hello lightening
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So sad about Brooke is Mississauga, especially after returning days after her first flight! The way her brothers coaxed her off the ledge (not that they had any ill will, I'm sure!) reminds me of the saying 'if so-and-so jumped off a bridge, would you, too?' or is it 'just because so-and-so does something, does that mean you have to, too' ---i can't bring the saying to mind properly right now, but I'm reminded of that peer pressure, think for yourself kind of message....seeing that females aren't really ready to fledge until a week after the males, do we see more female deaths in fledging as a result of going to early?
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I think the girls traditionally have more problems due to their weight Eagle. They tend to be anywhere from 2 to 3 times larger than the males and top heavy so it's more difficult for them to keep altitude in the beginning. Last year both girls came down several times during fledge week and the male flew like a champ from day one. This year it's the opposite, both girls are flying like champs while the little guy is struggling to keep up :( The girls here try to get the little guy to go out with them too, they bump him on the ledge too but I think it's more that they want him to join in on the fun. Fortunately he's not buying what they're selling ;D
From what the team here says, the location of the building in Mississauge has been a challenge for the fledglings..like Tracy said 'they chose the nest site not us'. I was with some of the CPF people when they got the news about Brooke and everyone was upset over it..poor little mite.
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Pfftt..I exagerated on the size thing ...they are bigger and the bigger girl might be 2x the size but 3? I think the wine is going to my head!
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That's ok Carly your my kind of girl enjoying your wine ;D
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One needs a glass of wine after reading that story - it's such a precarious journey for these little ones!
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I sure hope Tracy report's to us soon so we will know if we have egg's or not ::)
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Yeah really eh Falconval, then we can get back to talking about what this forum is all about Falcons!!
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Not flying hamsters, cats, dogs, squirrels.. ??? - well since Tracy was silent today - either she didn't check yet - or she did and nothing was there but she didn't want to upset our day. I vote for the former. She'll check on Sunday!! Night all!! ;D
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Okay, here's an update because I haven't posted to the blog yet ... as of Friday afternoon, no re-nesting. Trey was on-site, sitting on the letters of the east-side Radisson sign. I think there were some posts around 3pm (local time) of folks seeing Trey bolt from the sign, that would have been because of us. Dennis Swayze and Dr. Bob Nero joined me on the roof when I went to check the box. The scrape is in the nestbox (I have a photo, actually a few) of the the scrape) which I will be posting on the blog when I upload those entries. Will be checking again tomorrow as we will then be past the two week point. Will probably give them a few more days before saying we are probably out of luck so for all of you with crossed-finger-itis, only a couple more days. I won't be checking them on Tuesday as we are off to band the Brandon chicks that day. I will promise to post photos as soon as I can get them off my camera - and I'm sure Dennis will have a few that he will let us add to the Gallery!
The Peregrine Chick
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Well.....still something to hope for then!!! - We'll wait (like we have much choice :P) - so if the scrape is there, does that mean they've made a spot for eggs but there are no eggs in it..yet.. ??? Looking forward to seeing the pics anyway! :D
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so if the scrape is there, does that mean they've made a spot for eggs but there are no eggs in it..yet.. ???
It does, sort of. Since both genders make scrapes, it doesn't necessarily follow that there will definitely mean their will be eggs. Trey could be making scrapes and Princess has had enough of all this, or vice versa. It was very quiet at the nestsite when we were there, but it was very quiet in the couple of days before the first egg was laid. Not that I'm being optimistic, just factual. Could be quiet because they are off the breeding list for this year. We will just have to wait.
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good luck in Brandon Tracy. Still keep your fingers crossed. I have learned that never say never..
Any day now in Edmonton. even though I think today is too soon, she is very antsy today. I will get no work done for a couple of days
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I see Tracy was online earlier today I wonder if she had a chance to check on the nestbox at the Radisson?
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We did see both Trey & Princess today, hanging about the Radisson sign & the tower........Sheila still swears she can hear them talking to each other.....
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They probably are! I wonder if she's nagging him and he's just ignoring her lmao
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don't know! I'll have to ask Sheila to interpret for us.....
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Sheila can speak Peregrine? I would think TPC would be envious lol
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I sent a post yesterday and it didn't work. I wanted Tracy to steal a chick or two from Brandon and bring them to Winnipeg for Trey and Princess and also keep us amused by watching them via video cam. One of our peregrins was sitting on the nest in the corner yesterday afternoon. Hard to tell witch one when I can only see their feathers.
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Tracy
Bring us a chick from Brandon,Please
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'Chuckle' - what a grand idea, Mother Hen!!!!!!! Peregrines do adopt other falcons' kids. I'm sure nobody would notice if she popped a chick into her purse!! :P :P
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No report from Tracy. Could mean there's nothing to report, could mean she didn't have time, could mean she didn't get a chance to check, could mean nothing. ??? ??? - Good thing we're such a patient bunch aye??!! ;D ;D
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Who said we were patient? lmao
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A new day has arrived, no nasty weather forecast for today. Today is the day the chicks in Brandon, Manitoba get banded. Maybe we'll here from Tracy this afternoon or evening. I suspect she's been extremely busy which is why we haven't heard any updates given that she volunteers her time to this Project. I hope you all have a good day.
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I was thinking the same thing eagle. About Tracy being so busy. I am sure that is it. Further if she went and there was nothing, we would all be wanting her to go check again today, and tomorrow. IMHO. She did say there was a couple more days and then that would be that for this year. Maybe if she waits and gos tomorrow that is the maximum time that Trey and Princess should have renested or not.
Now with Motherhen saying that she seen one of them in the nestbox in the corner, I am hopeful. Could be just having a nap though! I mean we sure cant blame the birds if they dont renest! Goodness what a rough spring they had.
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Absoutely deedream, can't blame them if they don't renest.
On my way to the grocery store I noticed a couple of fledgeling House Sparrows, they still had a touch of down on them. I stood and watched them for a few minutes. I'm sure people must have been wondering why I was staring at a construction site lmao
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Very true Deedreem - if we had our way, she'd be checking morning and night every day! :P I guess she'll check tomorrow, and if there's nothing - we may be out of luck. Princess & Trey did have a rough season this year, they're strong resilient birds, but we can only expect so much from them.... - That said, still a couple days to hope so fingers & toes still crossed!!!! ;D
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Well I for one am still hoping for at least one chick!!
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Saw both T&P today. Trey sat for a while on the nest ledge.......interesting note -Sheila spotted 3 flowers (well, they're probably actually weeds, we think!) sprouting out of the ledge.....
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Maybe they're setting up nest and thought a garden would be nice.
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Now I love that sense of humor. Keep those dreams alive. :) :)
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LOL. Me too! ;D
Or maybe they've chosen gardening because they have the time -- no chicks. :(
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Everyone needs a hobby :)
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For all you fanatics who love and miss seeing Peregrines "in action", check this out!
http://birdsbykim.com/blog/?p=62
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Maybe I should be taking basket weaving while I sit and stare out of the window!!!
Now that is a hobby!
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No sightings today Mother Hen?? :-\ - I think we need to put out a Missing Persons bulletin for TPC! ???
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For all you fanatics who love and miss seeing Peregrines "in action", check this out!
http://birdsbykim.com/blog/?p=62
Those are some fantastic pictures LouLouBelle!! If you follow the link back there's even more of them. Such majestic birds!!! I'd love to be able to sit there and capture them with a really good camera! sigh :(
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I only see one at a time. That is why I thought maybe Tracy could bring one chick-a-dee back with her to keep us all amused that would be great. I certainly do miss them! I lloked up the photos from Lulu and man they were awesome. Holy cats what great shots!
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For all you fanatics who love and miss seeing Peregrines "in action", check this out!
http://birdsbykim.com/blog/?p=62
"Unfortunately the light was bad and the birds were too far away so the pictures are very poor quality but you can still get the gist of the action…"
:oThis is what the photographer said about the photos posted. Kim must be a pretty incredible photographer to have taken such magnificent pics in low light. :o
Wow, these are amazing pics. Thanks LouLouBelle for posting the link.
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Both P&T are on the Radisson sign.......Sheila is sure that P is looking 'a bit heavy'.......
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Thanks for reporting the news of sighting T and P together!
(Have I missed something? Who is Sheila?)
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Holy Mackeral!!!!!!!!!! What amazing shots, talk about being at the right place at the right time!!!
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Princess is looking heavy?? - hm well you just never know!!! - but according to Tracy the deadline is approaching right NOW so if she's got eggs in there, she'd better hurry up and lay them! ;D......... bcbird, I think Sheila works with Mother Hen so she has great views too!! 8)
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Thanks, Ballywing. I wonder if Sheila would like to be an official member, as she certainly has good observing skills along with Pam.
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Looking "heavy" :D Y'all crack me up!
As of this morning, no eggs in the nestbox though someone had been "muffing" up the nest scrape so we will give it another couple of days. The fact that both birds are still around is a good thing though, particularly coming up on 3 weeks since Black Friday.
Will be posting blog entries tonight as well as photos from the Radisson and from the Brandon banding!
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Those pictures are just stunning. Thank you for sharing, they are beautiful.
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If T&P renested and just had one chick, imagine how spoiled rotten s/he will be?
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Spoiled, not really. And actually, not really all that unusual either. If they do renest, there would definitely be fewer eggs and usually they don't all hatch out. Sherpa was the only one to hatch from a renest of Trey's many years ago and he was a pain, he kept climbing out of the nestbox (hence the name) and giving me heart attacks as he perched on the edge of oblivion more than a few times. He didn't like be left on his own. Happens alot when there is one chick or 1 female chick in a nest. They just don't like being on their own in the nest. Sherpa did fine though, he migrated out of the City without injuring himself!
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Sheila works with me.....she keeps threatening to join the Forum, but so far has shied away. Swears she will if Princess & Trey produce another egg, though!
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Sheila, excuses, excuses, and what IF they don't renest, what you going to wait til next year to join the forum?
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Come on Sheila....join the forum!!!! Join, Join, Join, Join.....Join! You know you want too!!!!! :D
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Resistance is futile.
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Just do it!
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WE ARE BORG....Oh right, I mean "PEREGRINE"....as Pchemist wrote, "Resistance is futile"
Come on Sheila......JOIN JOIN JOIN!!!!!!!
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Terrific news from Brandon, Tracy. Love to hear they're healthy (fat even) and doing well. Looking forward to seeing pics! ;D
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I was so hoping Princess and Trey would re-nest this year. I was really looking forward to watching the chick/chicks grow and fledge. I guess we will just have to wait for next year. I do still have a bit of hope tho.
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Looking "heavy" :D Y'all crack me up!
As of this morning, no eggs in the nestbox though someone had been "muffing" up the nest scrape so we will give it another couple of days.
TPC, what's "muffing"?
("Crack" me up -- LOL! An egg joke!)
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Methinks I'll have some explaining to do to Sheila in the morning! You folks sound like chicks waiting to be fed - join! join! join! Very funny, I love it.
Maybe you all will be more successful than I've been in convincing her! She is a true falcon fan!
Good one Liz, TPC's 'egg' joke.......
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Pam, I have no pb with Sheila continuing on with her personal thoughts as relayed by you. I actually think it's pretty funny! Whatever she's comfortable with -- just glad she's watching too!
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Oh, she watches alright!! More than me, even! She reads the forum, too, so I'll be outed for sure! Hi Sheila!
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Hey Sheila - we love to hear your observations of P&T having conversations and 'stuff' going on and flowers and such! ;D - come on and join us!! :P
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If she's a guest and not a member, she's missing some fun! Not every topic is open to guests.
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There are so many topics going, not sure which is appropriate for this. But since it's about today, and it IS today..... going to bed kids! Still trying to catch up from Grad night, I guess. Have a good sleep. one and all. :)
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Yeah, it's getting late for TPC to get back on. Probably can call it a night. Sleep well Liz.
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For all you fanatics who love and miss seeing Peregrines "in action", check this out!
http://birdsbykim.com/blog/?p=62
The pics sure do prove being in the right place and snapping at the right time for a great progression of shots, but can it really be true the heron flew away unharmed? :-\ It looks to me like there was definite contact between the two birds, especially since the heron was on it's back and falling. I actually thought one of its wings looked really injured...would the peregrine attack and leave? I do really hope the heron survived once it landed! They are amazing photos, but I can't help but worry for the heron! :(
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Just had to pop in and say Hi and hope you are all hanging in there
still waiting here in Edmonton. I believe it is Day 32 of tight incubation of the second egg. I said anytime after June 24 becasue of the first egg but I know they like them to hatch close so ..... I have to be out most of the morning so I hope they wait for me but I am thinking tomorrow or the weekend. she sure is checking and moving a lot though. Not knowing what to expect I guess.
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So Tracy
If they a "muffing" what ever that means are they doing it in the West side Penthouse or on the East side?? I am still hoping for at least one chick since you didn't bring one from Brandon.
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Mother Hen, I'm pretty sure it's the West Side Nestbox TPC has been checking - P&T probably know they're not allowed nesting on the East side ledge anymore.. :-\ - as for 'muffing' - seems to me maybe Tracy made that word up as I 'googled' it (yes I google everything ;D) - and I can't find such a word. I'm guessing it means rubbing or patting or grinding their chests into the gravel?? ???
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Could mean they are pulling each others feathers out!!!! LMAO
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ROTFLMAO Mother Hen too funny
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Actually, they are just sort of playing in the box and messing (or "muffing") up the scrape in the box. Imagine digging a hole in your garden for a plant and the neighbour's kid, cat, dog, squirrel comes and knocks the sides a bit or plays in it and the nice neat sides/bottom/edges you made are now kind of "muffed" up.
Can't believe you googled it BallyWing, now you are going to make me paranoid about my words!! Actually, I tend to put quotations around words that are made-up, if that helps.
And yes: box = west-side nestbox; ledge = east-side nestledge
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Well I figured if I was going to tell MH my guess on what 'Muffing' is - I'd better check first in case I was totally off base! ;D :P
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(She flaps because birds don't bow)... I read thru all 25 topics and multiple postings on each one, and only made one comment! ;D
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For the record, no sign of either Princess or Trey today......even Sheila didn't spot them.
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Neither did I. :( We know they're still here.... where are they hiding? Maybe went back to the beach -- it was a pretty nice day, even with the clouds!
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(She flaps because birds don't bow)... I read thru all 25 topics and multiple postings on each one, and only made one comment! ;D
I noticed earlier that you were on, but didn't see any new comments on the board. I like your comments Liz, and was relieved when I saw you post!
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Thank you, bcbird. It seemed I was a bit too chatty! I bit my tongue, and just enjoyed everyone's posts w/o telling them that I did, or throwing in my 2 cents. :)
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Both Princess and Trey were on the east-side of the Hotel (he was on the ledge, she was on the sign) at 1845 hrs on Thursday. Hung out for a long time, then she took off for parts unknown and he hung around until after I left.
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Okay folks, we are in the final couple of days for the re-nest countdown. If we don't get anything in the box by Monday, (and barring divine intervention from Horus) Princess and Trey won't be renesting this year. I will be visiting the Hotel everyday over the weekend just in case. Have to take photos of the east-side ledge as I need the zoom function to be able to see the ledge in any kind of detail, so I will post the photos so you all can see.
Maybe if we are very lucky, we will be able to celebrate Canada Day with Princess & Trey!
The Peregrine Chick
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Ack - Fingers, Toes, Eyes & Ears are all CROSSED!!!! ;D :P
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Here's hoping you will find what you are looking for!! Good luck
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wouldn't that be wonderful.. if fingers and toes crossed. Never say never.
We could all tip our July 1st glasses .
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That would be the best Canada Day . it would feel like the feeling you get when you watch the fireworks. WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FINGER AND FEATHERS CROSS STILL ,
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If by some miracle Princess and Trey do re-nest, do the chicks have a chance to be strong enough and mature enough for their migration flight in the fall?
Normally the chicks would be close to fledging in a few weeks. If they were to re-nest, and by the time they incubate and the eggs hatch and the chicks grow it would be near the end of summer when they would be ready to fledge. That only gives them a month and a bit to learn to hunt and get strong enough at flying to make a long trip to some where warmer for the winter.
Just some thoughts, questions and concerns.
As much as I would love to see some chicks this year, I do not want to hear that anymore do not make it.
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Its a reasonable question Moonstar, and the answer is yes the chicks would have time before migration, but only just. That's the other reason for being pretty sure that if we don't have a renest by Canada Day, then we aren't going to have one this year. They may be hardwired to reproduce, but they know when its too late in the year.
Don't get me wrong, the chances of them renesting now are very very slim.
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Today's weather sucks, but at least it sucks because the good stuff is right on its tail and we should have at least 4 days of great weather after it!
Princess and Trey are still on the Hotel, usually later in the day, but still the cutest couple in downtown Winnipeg. Larry and I decided to be optimistic and proactive and we went to test out the camera we installed on the nestbox many many months ago just to be sure that we could use it to spy on the nestbox if a miracle should happen in the next couple of days. Camera works like a dream though I will need to clean up the lens a bit if we ever have to use it - its gotten a wee bit dusty from lack of use! With all the rain we have had over the last 24 hours, the box is dry as a bone which I think will be appealing to the birds if they do pull an egg out of the hat, so to speak. It would be nice to be able to fire up the CBC server again but that will be up to Princess and Trey ...
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It's grey here to,not so windy, the sun keeps trying to peek out but don't think it's gonna have much luck. Quiet here, I'm almost bored lol
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:o :o :o AARRRRGHHH !!!!the HUMIDITY !
8) bad hair days all round. sun is doing the "peek-n-hide" thing here too in Mississauga... ::)
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Well Loriann, by the look of the radar we will be getting rain in the next hour or so.
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Well quit sending it to me... we've had enough already!..but should be grateful we did not get the tornados that Manitoba had last night.
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well it has gotten all the way up to a balmy 18C here in NB. Cloudy, forecast is cloudy, cloudy with more clouds......with showers, rain and the odd thunderstorm thrown in. First glimpse of sun should be on Tuesday. Not too windy however, and we have gotten lots and lots of rain here also, looks like a good weekend for campfires and toddys to help keep you warm! 8)
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Well quit sending it to me... we've had enough already!..but should be grateful we did not get the tornados that Manitoba had last night.
We are already having more funnel clouds and tornadoes this year than we have in a whole sackful of other years ... *sigh* ....
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Eagle did you get the pictures of the hawk I emailed to you?
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Well quit sending it to me... we've had enough already!..but should be grateful we did not get the tornados that Manitoba had last night.
We are already having more funnel clouds and tornadoes this year than we have in a whole sackful of other years ... *sigh* ....
I don't know how you manage.. i'd be a raging basket case of fear if i saw those coming at me. I don't like thunderstorms never mind whirling winds and tornados. Hope all is well out there, did not hear the reports of damage, and if nothing else this forum has made me more aware of all of you out there, and makes me take more notice of what happens outside of Ontario.
keep safe.
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Nope no pictures yet Loriann
Yeah TPC we here in Ontario certainly seem to be having more wild weather then we've had in a fews years. And Loriann I ain't controling the weather so I can't take the blame for the weather. I love t-storms, just get nervous when they issue Tornado warnings. As much as I would like to get apicture of one, I wanted to be a long ways away from it when I do lol
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I emailed them to you about half an hour ago.. let me know if you don't get them, or maybe check your spam files. the pictures are quite big, so... maybe it takes a long time for them to travel the 401 and hop off at London.
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I got mine, thanks, Loriann - beautiful!
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We finally have sun here in Edmonton. we have had nothing but rain and hail and thunder and a few twisters. this is how it has been for a few weeks . Now we have really hot weather for about 4 days. You know what that means though. More storms because of the hot weather :) :)
I hope Trey and Princess see that is is nice and dry in the nest box and to get moving.
Glad they are still sited
Still waiting for our egg egg to hatch. Miss Edmonton radissson is being a gret mom so far.
Stay safe everyone
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Yep they was in my spam and they are beautiful pics you have there !!!!!
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Loriann, I got mine too, thanks. I love the last full glare picture. That's one stare down contest I wouldn't want to have!
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We have a hot weekend ahead. Mid 30s, possibly 37 by Monday. Then we send it off to the Prairies.
I agree, Loriann, it is very interesting to hear from all over this country.
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glad you all got the pictures.. I have to agree.. that last one ...if the bird could only talk !.. He/she looks mildly ticked off !..
He/she is a gorgeous bird though, fit for lots of pictures. I will forward any others I get so you can all enjoy watching him/her.
The two of them have changed so much in just a few weeks.
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what kind of bird loriann??
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It looks like a red tailed hawk to me from the look of the last picture.
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Well it's so great to be able to see Radisson's chick(s)? and the Minnesota birds are almost ready to fledge, but oh how exciting it would be for Princess to bestow a couple of eggs on us. ;D - Still a couple days left to hope anyway. :P
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That would indeed be great to watch :) :) daughter and mother rear their young
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what kind of bird loriann??
It's a red-tailed hawk... with a whole lotta attitude !
If you want the pictures too, PM me with your email address and i'll forward them to you.. up close and personal..
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I was correct, kewwwwwwllllllllllll nice to know I know my birds lmao Hawks tend to confuse me at times lol
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:'(
No one EVER sends me pictures......
maybe I should pack up my cameras and go home
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Did you ask? ;) She said to PM her with your email address. ;D
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Hey Eye-Spy - no packing up of cameras allowed!!!! - we may have no chicks right now but you need to keep the equipment in tip top shape for next year!! ;D- (unless we get eggs by tomorrow that is!) :P
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sorry eye-spy ...
PM me your email address, and i'll send them to you too !!!!!
the files are pretty big, so thats the best way. PLEEEEEASE don't pack up and leave.... :-[
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So Tracy where do they hang out during the day?? Maybe I will look for window in that area?? I miss them .... BIG time like everyone else. I remember the year Eaton/MTS centre were under going the tranformation and the peregrines didnt have chicks. What year was that? I miss them that year too.
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Princess spent most of yesterday (Sunday) sitting on the telecommunication tower (the most northerly one). Didn't see Trey, but since Saturday was so wild and wet, they may have put off hunting away from the Hotel until today and he had gone further afield. I'm going to make a few passes by the Hotel today and see if I can't spot them. I did see both Princess and Trey on the Hotel on Friday and Pam and Team Kensington have sent some photos which I will get posted tonight so long as I'm not back too terribly late - I think they are from late last week ....
If I see the birds on the Hotel today, will try to track down a computer and post an update ...
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Just my two cents -- I didn't see anyone today on either the hotel towers or the JR sign at the Richardson bldg. And I don't think either of them would be on the dome of the Vital Stats bldg (SW Portage & Garry) where the food woo-ing pics were taken, because there's now scaffolding around the bldg, altho a little bit lower down. I guess P was on the tower on Sunday because it was quiet on the street? I don't see her there during the week, I don't think. At least, I always assume it's T.
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Well seeing as today was TPC's 'Re-nesting' deadline, I assume there was no news to report, or she would have reported it by now.. :-\ - I guess that's it then - we'll have to be patient until next year. We can still watch the remaining 2 Elk River kids fledge, and Radisson's chick is just a couple days old, looks like she/he will be an only child. Would have been great for P&T to have another go at it, but looks like it's not to be. :( - UNLESS they decided to wait til Canada Day and surprise us all!! ;D :P Ok I'm pushing my luck I know!!!
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yes Ballywing we better enjoy these next few days, our Elk river clan will soon all be gone as well. Have to watch Radisson in Alberta but it is awkward to watch the refreshing pictures. We are spoiled by these state of the art webcams and especially Elk River with its sound.
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love that Canada Day spirit! Let's wait to hear if July 1 is a wonderful day or just a holiday...
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For sure Deedream, the refreshing pics get tiresome to watch - the 15 seconds between refreshes seems so long at times, just to see an eye blink or a wing move....we are spoiled indeed!! 8)
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Well, TPC did say that she wouldn't be posting for awhile, and she's busy. Feathers and Talons still crossed. I know, it's a big IF, but until we hear a definite "no".... Doesn't matter -- love them anyway!
Next year will be good. Actually, kinda surprised how fast this year came after last. Winter seems to take sooooo loong, but they were actually back early enough to make me feel good! I think next year will be the same -- my harbinger of spring! ;D
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Good morning All,
I guess today is the deadline for any renesting.
I know we don't know if there is anything in either nest but I guess we should assume no.
There always is next year.
Happy Canada Day to all.
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Happy Canada Day
Hope you have some luck
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Well I was outside the Radisson this morning, stood like a dork for about 5 minutes looking WAY UP - as usual saw nothing. >:( - Shoulda brought my Binocs!!! :P
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HAPPY CANADA DAY !!!!
Hope you all have good holiday, well except we know Liz is not going to have a day of fun :(
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HAPPY CANADA DAY EVERYONE !
Hope everyone has a wonderful day, and it is gorgeous outside! Blue sky, sunshine and 28 degrees.
Happy Birthday Canada !.. ;D
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;DHAPPY CANADA TO EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D Looks like no eggs this year .............BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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And Happy Canada too!
Had maple syrup on the pancakes at breakfast.
Sunny and 27 here in the late morning.
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I was at work yesterday and no sign of either P or T, not even a fly-by.......
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Maybe they were busy in the nestbox making eggs!! ;D - Ya I know, give it up already. :P
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guess I didn't say it earlier, but Happy Canada Day everyone!!!!!!!!!! Fun day watching the juvies from Elk river, lots of heart stopping moments, so close to fledging for the little guy. It was in the thirties here in NB today, mostly sunny with a few cloudly periods, a few sprinkles of rain, but other wise a greatttttttttttttt day!! Just watched a few fireworks that the locals around the lake put on individually, everyone hoops after, fun, hearing everyone around the lake,,, the lake is calm and quiet now, sound carries very easily. Haven't heard a bang in 10 minutes think that is it until August 1st New Brunswick day! lol.
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damn, was really hoping for some good news from Tracy. here's to next year, I'll be there!
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Well Tracy hasn't actually said it's over - yet. Maybe no news is good news. 8) ...or not... :P
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Yeah I am just gonna wait for the offical word from Tracy :)
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yes me too, see what the final word is. , but I am thinking that if she found eggs this weekend she would have found a computer to get to us to let us know.
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Maybe, maybe not,depends on how busy she is today.
Well I am off to bed. Have a good night all.
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nite eagle, I am soon to stretch out myself, read a bit more of my book then nite nite!
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I was downtown today. It was so windy it was unbelievable. No wonder P & T kept flipping over when they were incubating the eggs. While walking down Smith (north/South street) where the nest ledge is the wind was so strong it was hard to walk. Turned onto Portage (east/west) thinking it would not be as bad but the wind was just as bad. Walked around and looked up in the air at the different places that P & T hang out and we saw nothing. I guess it was just too windy. Saw a lot of pigeons flying around and some other smaller birds but no Princess or Trey.
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I ::) may be to late but night night Eagle
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You're not kidding Moonstar, about that wind!!! :o - Almost blew me over! - I thought if I'd had an umbrella, I would have been airborne like Mary Poppins!!!! :P Wouldn't like to see chicks try to fledge in that - wow, who knows where they'd end up! :-\
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Wasn't it unbelievable yesterday, Ballywing. And yes with an umbrella, we would have been like Mary Poppins. :)
If there were chicks in the nest ledge yesterday they would have been blown out.
I hope Mother Hen and the rest who watch downtown see them today.
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Good morning PEOPLE!! Was off yesterday but no luck today in spotting them. Tracy mentioned during the day they are off somewhere else so now I am looking way up no matter where I go....I haven't seen them during the day for about one week now at least if not longer.Next year I hope. I still hope to see them on the Radisson even if no babies.
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I just looked and I believe Trey is here!!!!! I also saw way up a bird flying around,way too high for a pigeon.....must have been Princess. Keep an eye out for the east side as he flew that way. How nice to see one of them.
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Glad you caught sight, Mother Hen. I had another fruitless day.
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Yay! Glad they're still around. Hope I actually get to SEE them one of these days...no luck so far! :-\
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the east side is where the nest box is isn't it???
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The east side is where the nestledge is (Black Friday, 13th floor). The west side is where the nestbox is (the Penthouse, 30th floor).
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Well, Ballywing, I know you must be close-by, since you were scoping out the Radisson! We'll know if someone approaches one of us while we're staring up in the sky on Portage (including Liz) that we're friendly phanatics!!
Maybe we can just make arrangements to meet one day on Donald or Portage, so that we can all meet? Friday at 5:15? Noon-ish? Please, not 7 am!
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Hey that'd be cool Liz! - I work til 6pm though so I couldn't make it to Portage & Donald til about 6:15 by which time everyone else would be long gone home!! :P
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Wow! I only just noticed we had a Black Friday AND were on the 13th floor. We did already discuss superstition didn't we?
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If we did, I don't remember it. Prob too stressed about the day itself to think about that. At least it wasn't the following Friday -- that would have been the 13th!
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Yeah, that would have been very creepy, on top of all else.
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TPC -- please lock this.
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I'm happy to hang around for you. Let's see how it works for everyone else...
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HECK -- should have invited TPC and Eye-spy as well! :o Sorry kids, just figured you're busy with other things. Please, you're invited too -- Come join us! ;D ;D And let us know.
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I could probably hang around one evening, am usually long gone by 6:15, have to admit. Think I'm heading out of town on Friday, though......have a cottage that I love to run to! No falcons, but loons, eagles, whiskeyjacks and other assorted birds to watch there!
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I'm okay for tomorrow, just thought it might be a bit too much short notice. Ballywing?
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I dunno, this could be a set-up, whadaya think Tracy....?
They all know what You and I look like. We could never figure out who they might be. Might be an ambush !
( 652 VS 471, strong are her efforts, this young one ! :) )
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So does this mean no more posts as I ma not from Winnipeg(my husband is) adn the other thread you wanted locked up.
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I think everyone from across Canada should crash their party! ;D
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Don't think I can make tomorrow, either- have to go pick up my car after work.....and get ready for the lake. next week?
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Well we could always do it next week..?? I don't work tomorrow so I won't be downtown.... :(
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Hey JL just became a 'Chick' !! ;D
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;D WOW! Let me go get a drink!
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Congrats, JL! And I see deedream is about to Fledge.
No Eye-spy, no ambush. And I know what T looks like, but not you -- you're safe hanging around the hotel!
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Speaking of TPC, where on earth has she been these past few days? Whew that chick is a busy bee!!! :P
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Thanks Liz, LouLouBelle. Does everyone have a glass of wine or a choice of beverage handy? Cheers! We'll have to have a toast when deedream fledges (and Lightning & Chase). :) ;)
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And I know what T looks like, but not you -- you're safe hanging around the hotel!
Oh,... accountant -- maybe I DO know what you look like. One of those green-visor hats, sleeves rolled up, pencil behind your ear?
(lol. CGA student myself!)
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& ballywing & whoever the heck wants to join us for a drink! lol
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I'm always up for that JL!!!! :P :P - Cheers!! ;D
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Cheers to you too! ;D
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Thanks Liz, LouLouBelle. Does everyone have a glass of wine or a choice of beverage handy? Cheers! We'll have to have a toast when deedream fledges (and Lightning & Chase). :) ;)
Wine -- Cheers!
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Me too...into the merlot tonight. :P
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Okay, so... not everyone is available tomorrow, and we may have to do a second meet next week at a different time. But for everyone who is tomorrow, after 5-ish... are we on? Dennis, please join us!
Doesn't have to be a long thing, for those who have things to do -- Hi, How are ya, handshake, put a face to the name. That's it!
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I think everyone from across Canada should crash their party! ;D
That'd be an expensive flight!
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JL, are you up for 5:15-ish tomorrow on Donald?
And the rest of you lurkers?? (E-S, P-b-D, TPC)
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Would love to meet and put a face to the ones there, but tomorrow is not good for me. Maybe next time. Thanks for the invite.
Hope you all get to see Princess or Trey.
You will be able to recognize each other because you will be the ones looking up in the sky or up to the tops of the buildings. When I was downtown on Canada Day...we were the only ones looking up. Easy to spot and Peregrine Phanatic in downtown Winnipeg.
Bring binoculars if you have some. You do not realize how high the buildings are until you are there trying to look up and see something.
Enjoy and have fun...I will be there in spirit.
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Time for bed. I'll be on Donald, by the MTS Centre, sitting on one of those cement circles (unless you take them all up!), at 5:15/5:20-ish.
Moonstar and the rest of you who can't make it tomorrow, we'll try again next week.
Hope Mother Hen catches this tomorrow!
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Me too - re the 'spirit' part!! - It's always hard to get a time that's good for everyone. :-\ Hope we can try again next week ! 8)
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Crap! Guess I'll be there by myself!
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Okay, are y'all wanting to meet tomorrow, which I believe is a Thursday after 5pm or are you talking Friday after 5pm? Will wait for y'all to hit the Forum tomorrow to get this cleared up .... brain is mushed at the moment ...
And yes, I can certainly meet you all down there, this week or next or whenever .... And if you wanted to go out for dinner, there is a nice restaurant (or at least all the things I have ordered have been enjoyable) on the twelfth floor of the Radisson Hotel. Might even be able to show you the Peregrine Room - that's the meeting room with the window whose roof is the nest ledge ...
Talk to ya all soon,
The Chick
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I would like to come too, but I have not learned how to fly yet and all the way from BC I might be a little late LOL ;D
congrats to you JL I will have a glass of wine in your honor tonight ! ;)
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...Ok pick a day and time and see what happens. And yes Tracy has been very busy.
A couple of photos from the Brandon Banding can be seen at this link, more will be posted soon. As well some recent photos of Princess...sorry none of Trey.
www.pbase.com/photosbydennis click on the recent photos gallery.
Cheers !
Dennis
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:) Cheers to you too falconval!
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I leave work at 3:00 every day. I also come and go with my husband who also works every close by. I would love to meet you people,that would be a HOOT so to speak. You guys sound like a bunch of characters. I will continue to watch for Trey and Princess as I just have to look out the window.I checked out Dennis's photo.....man he is good. Hopefully you guys will continue to post things.I enjoy reading them everyday.
Later
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Dennis, great shots! You must have a wicked lens. Do you do this professionally or as a hobby?
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Sounds like we'd better try this again, for next week. I know it was short notice. What's good for everyone?
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Great photos Dennis ! I sure wich I could get some half as good as your .
Thanks for sharing .
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Might get more people if we wait til next week....question is what day and what time? Lunchtime or after work? - just for a few minutes, or for a 'dinner' as per TPC? ??? * (For myself, Wed is a good day...)..then I can bring my sister who is a 'closet' mini-Phanatic. ;D
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A "closet" Phanatic, hmmmmmmmmmmm another closet to hide in eh
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Well she kinda went into the closet after Black Friday - too much upset. :'( - So I keep her updated and drag her back to the cam/forum when something interesting is going on... 8)
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Well drag out into the forum ;D
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Ya I've tried....she'll do the 'guest' thing now and then ...maybe next year I'll get her to 'really' join us!! ;D
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Are all the guests wimps or what? LOL
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Any time after work next week is fine with me ... can be downtown 5-ish if I leave on time. Later works as well. We could just hang out on the street :) or find a restaurant or bar if you all want to meet for longer. Whatever is the consensus ...
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Any time after work next week is fine with me ... can be downtown 5-ish if I leave on time. Later works as well. We could just hang out on the street :) or find a restaurant or bar if you all want to meet for longer. Whatever is the consensus ...
" honest officer.. we're BIRD fans.. we don't often hang out on the street corner.."
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Bad news is, no renesting this year for Princess and Trey.
Good news is that they are still around the Hotel daily, though not on any regular schedule that I have been able to gauge. Princess is hanging out on the telecommunication towers alot these days, or at least when the winds are tornadic like they were from time to time earlier this week. Trey still loves the ledge and the east-side Radisson sign. Haven't seen them near the nestbox for the last few days, but they may hang out there more in the mornings when it gets warmer (west in shade in the mornings) before shifting over to the east side in the afternoons. They have done this in the past.
Better, but long-term news is that Princess and Trey will have spent an extra two months replenishing their personal reserves which will help them get through migration, overwintering and have them in better shape next year when they return than they usually are. Yes, that is nine months away, but still ...
The Peregrine Chick
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I, Dennis (PhotosbyDennis) and Larry (Eye-Spy) have hinted about my being "up to something" over the last few days ... and I was, along with Dennis and Larry though they will probably downplay their involvement. And yes, I will be tell you all about it on the blog but I want to wait until I hear back from the other player in this piece, so that I know how it ends. Knowing y'all as I have come to, you will definitely want to know how it all ended!!
But am I going to start the tale here and now, no, this is another teaser, but I should start posting to the blog tonight, so its only a little, short teaser ;D
I know you will have questions once I start my tale, so here is the place to ask them, that way I don't lose them on other threads.
Only need to hold your breath for a little while longer ...
The Chick
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Any time after work next week is fine with me ... can be downtown 5-ish if I leave on time. Later works as well. We could just hang out on the street :) or find a restaurant or bar if you all want to meet for longer. Whatever is the consensus ...
" honest officer.. we're BIRD fans.. we don't often hang out on the street corner.."
Actually, its taken more convincing than that ... imagine a chick sitting (literally) on the median in the middle of Portage Avenue with a sun hat, SPF, water bottle, lunch, bird guide, field glasses, camera and spotting scope. Been there, done that ... a few times ... 8)
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If i didn't know about the perigrins ...seeing someone in the middle of portage ave would look rather comical.
I thought i saw Princess and Trey yesterday from around the Hotel Fort Garry, but not entirely sure it was them. they were flying high. i went and got binoculars out but by the time i got back on the balcony they were gone.
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I thought i saw Princess and Trey yesterday from around the Hotel Fort Garry, but not entirely sure it was them. they were flying high. i went and got binoculars out but by the time i got back on the balcony they were gone.
Could easily have been them, particularly since they hunt most often over the rivers ...
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** turns a funny shade of blue** and goes to SULK in the headbanger closet ... I WANNA KNOW NOW !
>:( :'(
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Its a story that took 8 days to unfold, 'fraid you'll have to wait 8 hours (max) for me to get going recounting it :P ...
... and there are photos if that helps you through the wait ;D
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Didn't your mamma ever tell you not to tease?
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :-[
lol ;)
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I can hardly wait ??? ??? ??? ???
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I can't be there til after 6pm but if others are going to hang around for a while I can meet you wherever...... :P
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Trey (I think, but I've been known to be wrong.....could be Princess) is sitting right across from me on the ledge of the Somerset Bldg........
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Cool!! - Pam, you are a lucky Phanatic!!!! ;D ;D
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True!
He/she won't turn around so I can make a positive id!
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After so long a silence from our fearless leader, I figure this is going to be a pretty good story....
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... and there are photos if that helps you through the wait ;D
Does this mean there are some photos to see right now, while we wait, or do we have to wait for the photos, too?
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I think we have to wait for the photos
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Actually that is very good news TPC!!! - They'll be strong and healthy and all set for a good season next year, so at least there is a silver lining after a very hard time for them. ;D...(Maybe we can put a 'No Nesting' sign on the East nest ledge next Spring...just in case).. :P
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If nothing else, we Phanatics have learned that we must have patience for SO many things!!! - Nesting, Hatching, Feeding, Flying, Cam repairs, News updates... ::) - Sounds like this story is going to be a good one! At least we only have to wait til tonight! ;D
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And wait we will lol I just hope my power cord last's that long, it's shorting out :(
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Princess (I've changed my mind, and do not think it was Trey.....) sat across from me on a ledge for a few hours this afternoon. Sitting quietly, often one leg up (purple band on the right and green on the left - is that right, Tracy?) and one eyelid closed. Hard to keep my mind on my work.......
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If there are peregrines flying around my work building, I'd be fired for non-performance for sure! ;D
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Princess (I've changed my mind, and do not think it was Trey.....) sat across from me on a ledge for a few hours this afternoon. Sitting quietly, often one leg up (purple band on the right and green on the left - is that right, Tracy?) and one eyelid closed. Hard to keep my mind on my work.......
Purple band is definitely Princess. The US uses a purple aluminium FWS band these days, we us a silver band. Her other band is bicoloured black over green indicating that she is a Midwest US bird. Our bands are black (wild-hatched) or red (captive-bred).
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Does this mean there are some photos to see right now, while we wait, or do we have to wait for the photos, too?
'Fraid you have to wait for me to pull the photos off my camera and to find the ones I like from Dennis' bunch (yes, he is a co-conspirator). Even worse, we have some video too (blame Larry) but I have to learn how to convert it first (thanks Grelber for helping me with this!)
If nothing else, we Phanatics have learned that we must have patience for SO many things!!! - Nesting, Hatching, Feeding, Flying, Cam repairs, News updates... ::) - Sounds like this story is going to be a good one! At least we only have to wait til tonight! ;D
Story is too long for me to tell it all tonight, will post it in day-by-day chunks - have the first couple of days revised/edited for coherence already ...
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My curiousity is definitely peaked. ???
No it is more than peaked. It is driving me nuts trying to figure out what your great adventure is.
I do not like waiting...I want to know now. :D
I guess I have not choice but to wait.
Tracy, you have all of us just impatiently waiting. ;D
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I am patiently waiting, I know eventually we will find out, I have a feeling it has something to do with wildlife, maybe even a pergrine falcon, hmmmmmmmmm new family spotted somewhere else in Manitoba?
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Not telling, 'til I tell ;D
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It's almost evening your time TPC how much longer do we have to wait?
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It's almost evening your time TPC how much longer do we have to wait?
Thought you were being patient! ;)
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If anyone really can't wait.....
Send me your credit card number, or a bundle of fresh crispy $100's and I'll spill the beans ;D ;D ;D
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lmao eye-spy, I no longer own a credit card so I am soland I am broke so guess I am going to have to wait.
Patience is a virtue I am trying to acquire ;D
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I'm sure I'll come around to the "yes, it's good news for next year" frame of mind, but just a bit disappointed at the moment. I wish I could get more glimpses of P&T tho. Last year, I saw them a lot. I guess because they had to hang around the hotel. This year, the really have the empty nest thing going -- talonloose and feather-free! (footloose, etc. I know, if you have to explain it,.... :P)
Thanks to TPC and everyone who has supplied other cams to watch, to feed our chick fever. ;D
(And I vote for the "No Nesting" sign!)
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Princess ... sat across from me on a ledge for a few hours this afternoon. Sitting quietly often one leg up ......and one eyelid closed.
Even though she didn't get to raise a brood this season, like any mother, she knows how to relax when given a chance!
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we have some video too (blame Larry) but I have to learn how to convert it first (thanks Grelber for helping me with this!)
... revised/edited for coherence already ...
Man, this is going to be quite the production!
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I am very sad too. Although I have been pretty sure, deep inside me, that they were not going to! Just knowing that too much time has past now for them to do it for sure, makes it final. I got a big ole lump in my throat reading your post TPC. Well heck heres to next year then, and hoping they pick the box to nest in, as I am not sure I can watch if they pick the ledge and it is still the same as it is now. :-\
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lmao eye-spy, I no longer own a credit card so I am soland I am broke so guess I am going to have to wait.
What is "soland", eagle?
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Even worse, we have some video too (blame Larry) but I have to learn how to convert it first (thanks Grelber for helping me with this!)
Haven't heard from Grelber for a long time. Where exactly does s/he fit into this bizarre group of ours??? ???
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oops meant sol (space) and broke sol is s**t outta luck
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Well you all set the date and time and I'll try to show up as well .... not the easiest thing to do to get away all by myself. You know what its like, kids, hubby, work. I don't get to downtown too often and haven't gone myself for a couple of years now. :-\ If I don't make it I'll be one of the ones in spirit too.
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Okay, now I'm one who doesn't do well with teasers (I wanna know too!!!!). Good thing I had other errands to run today and wasn't browsing the forum today! This would've been killing me. It's quarter to ten and I see Eye-Spy and Dennis are both on the forum, come on guys ... where's Tracy!!!! Is this adverture going to be put on the blog (I notice Eye-spy was checking out the blog area of the forum) or is Tracy going to post here? When?????????
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I am sure all three of them are having a great chuckle at the suspense they have b uilt up for this adventure lol just don't know how much longer I can stay awake, it's almost 11pm here
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Oops, seem to have scared Eye-spy off. Where did you go??? Please say it's to find Tracy and get the bits and piece posted (flapping eyelashes) Please!! ;D
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(flapping eyelashes)
LOL. Flapping mine, too! Come on, guys!
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down on my knees with my wings clasped together, "pllllllleeeeeeeeassssseeeeee get Tracy in here so she can post this before I fall asleep at my computer??"
Yes I am begging
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My guess? They have vid of the West Winnipeg nest and babies ... maybe a banding?
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ahhhh, can't stand it any more, PLEASE Tracy, what?!!
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::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Hmmmm. Tracy....., I think she said something about laundry, and sleep deprivation. But I can/will tell you this much; if she was HALF as tired as she sounded during our last phone conversation, she is most probly still sitting at the desk with the phone to her head, snoring. (That, or driving another rabbit to the shelter ;D )
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Rabbits!! Well, we've had flying squirrels, cats, assorted birds, why not rabbits too! ;D So does a rabbit have anything to do with the adventure? hint hint hint please..... pretty please!!! ::)
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Maybe somebody could gently nudge Tracy awake and let her know that we're all waiting on talontips?
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very pleased to hear they are in the Peg and healthy. very sad about how it all ended but will look forward to 2009. :( Thank you Tracy and all of your team for all your work and heroic efforts.
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arrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh *starts pulling out my feathers and then I will live up to the name of being a Bald Eagle"
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OK, new thought. Instead of after work, since we seem to finish at different times, how 'bout at lunch? Noon-ish, give or take? Does that work better for everyone? Not that we'll see P&T at noon, but still put faces to names. I'm sure people who work 7 - 3 have lunch at 11:30 or noon; I work 8 - 5 and have it aroound 1 or 1:30. But I can easily change it to work for everyone else. Can we all do a bit of adjusting for one day, so that we can meet?
Let's start with Wed the 9th at 12:30, and see what adjustments we need to make from there. ??
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oops meant sol (space) and broke sol is s**t outta luck
You and me both!
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Something is up, I can smell it, with eye-spy and photosbydennis both in the forum at the same time I am betting they are waiting for Tracy also!
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Wed the 9th works for me! - I work 10-6 so lunch at 1pm or later would be good - if most people take lunch earlier then I could probably change it to 12:30. ;D
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I was thinking West Wpg nest too, until the rabbit thing. Hmm. Well, after all the hummingbirds, ospreys, eagles, cats, dogs, flying hamsters, ... rabbits totally make sense!
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I am sure all three of them are having a great chuckle at the suspense they have b uilt up for this adventure lol
No kidding! Quite sure they're laughing at us! Even if TPC is exhausted and sleeping, she's laughing in her dreams!
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Looks like Liz has pulled out in front by 11 posts.....
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Yeah but banding doesn't take days
Yeah I can hear her laughing in her sleep all the way over here !
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On this forum ANYTHING would make sense!! hehehe Doesn't matter where a topic starts it always veers off somewhere along the way! ;D
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Nice change of subject eye spy
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Something is up, I can smell it, with eye-spy and photosbydennis both in the forum at the same time I am betting they are waiting for Tracy also!
Yeah -- you're still both here!
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Looks like Liz has pulled out in front by 11 posts.....
??? they're all laughing at us now!! and tracking too! :o
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How much you wanna bet those two are on the phone this very minute placing bets on who reaches 700 posts first!
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Did one of you two hack TPC's password and post this thread just to see how long you can keep us going?
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I got Liz for $50.00, if anyone is keeping track
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Nice change of subject eye spy
Looks like Liz has pulled out in front by 11 posts.....
Hahaha. Eagle and I aren't in competition with each other -- we're both chatterboxes and it goes how it goes. Catch up! ;D
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*High 5's Liz* Exactly!!!!!!!!
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On this forum ANYTHING would make sense!! hehehe Doesn't matter where a topic starts it always veers off somewhere along the way! ;D
LOL -- yes, it does. But it's fun isn't it?!!! ;D ;D A good way for us to get to know each other.
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I quite agree Liz, much fun.
Where did Dennis roll off to? (he's only an egg he can't take off and fly! heheh). Is Dennis going to wake up Tracy and remind her of what she started? :-X
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You two log in and out too much. You don't change by logging in and out you gotta post along with the rest of us!! ;D
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Only need to hold your breath for a little while longer
Looks like we have something to look forward to tomorrow.
I rarely post, but must say that i have had a lot of fun "listening " to you all over the last few days. you're a hoot. ;D
borgy (also a home grown girl from the Peg now living in Saskatchewan)
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glad to be of entertainment service to you Borgy :D
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I am so happy that Trey and princess are healthy and still hanging around. to next season.
Lots of drama this year .
Have a great evening
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Maybe should run over and BANG on the door...lol
Cheers !
I quite agree Liz, much fun.
Where did Dennis roll off to? (he's only an egg he can't take off and fly! heheh). Is Dennis going to wake up Tracy and remind her of what she started? :-X
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glad to be of entertainment service to you Borgy :D
It has been entertaining-. Even if I can't pull up the web cam at work, I can catch up with the action. You all do great play by play commentary.
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Maybe should run over and BANG on the door...lol
Cheers !
I quite agree Liz, much fun.
Where did Dennis roll off to? (he's only an egg he can't take off and fly! heheh). Is Dennis going to wake up Tracy and remind her of what she started? :-X
Well first before you roll over anywhere else Dennis can you check your Message box, I asked a photographic question of you lol
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Well I've been keeping the blog page open and refreshing there too to be sure I didn't miss anything there. So far nothing and just Larry and Dennis hanging out (great to have you guys around!) but still no sighting of Tracy (that anybody (Larry.... Dennis yeah I'm looking your way! heheh)) will fess up to. Its getting late for me and hopping around this forum during the day hasn't helped my work output... I've gotta get some sleep. You all have a great night and hopefully the drama unfolds soon around here. Can't wait until tomorrow to catch up on everything! Night!
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Yeah. If we can just all agree on a time... Even tho I can be there at noon or 12:30, I'm just taking the break -- I'll still actually eat lunch after 1, but at my desk. Can anyone else make that work?
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okay, it's more than 8 hours (max!), Liz is dangerously close to 700, eagles on her tail, where the heck is Tracy?!
this has got to be a record for late posting..
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They are always here... just hard to see since they don't need to hang around a nest and feed babies. They can do their own thing. That makes it harder for those of us here, to see them. Footloose!
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asleep at her computer with a keyboard imprint on her face?
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now there's a picture to post on the site..
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I got Liz for $50.00, if anyone is keeping track
Hahaha -- he's offline!
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Who is.....
I was tucking the little one back in !
And I guess it's time for this old bugger to hit the rack as well. I must say folks, you are more fun than I could ever imagine, and it's fun to watch you all, and read too.
Tracy is no doubt catching up on some well deserved snoozing, but I'm sure she will reveal all in short time. So, for now, good night to all.
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*falls asleep*
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I'm falling asleep waiting so I'm hitting the hay too. GN all. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Have a good sleep, E-S! Looking forward to tomorrow, and learning about what y'all have been up to!
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And JL, and eagle63 Sweet dreams!
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I'm still here sorta lol just poke me if something happens *falls back asleep*
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It has been entertaining-. Even if I can't pull up the web cam at work, I can catch up with the action. You all do great play by play commentary.
Or it's all just very silly! But glad you appreciate it! ;D ;D ;D
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I'm still here sorta lol just poke me if something happens *falls back asleep*
Me too -- gotta go eat my lovely asparagus! And baked pot. 11:30 -- hmm, I spend FAR TOO MUCH TIME with you guys! LOL
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I haven't done this kind of online marathon since the old days when I use to chat in chatrooms ::)
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everyone fell out like flies. Well I guess you're the last holdout Liz, I am going to bed for real now. Have sweet dreams.
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Not holding out -- going to bed too. The fledging is home, and with an attitude! Going to take my asparagus to bed, and finish it there! Goodnight, all! :) :)
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hey, I'm still here... and I'm waiting - well, until I finish my snack...
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and yet you are both still online! busted!
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If you're still there, check out our girl in the box, absolutely adorable - if you hadn't ever heard her, you'd think she was actually a sweetie!
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oh, she moved, she was sitting high with her head tucked..
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There really is no one here? That's the way it goes way out here in the fringe time zone. Away after dinner for the evening and hoped the Adventure would have been revealed. Stilll, it is always good to get caught up with everyone. See you all in the morning when TPC is up and posting!
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:'(I feel so alone I have just finished all your post and it sounds like it maybe a good day tomorrow but I have no one to chat with you have all gone to bed .......hope you are all having sweet dreams and will (read ,chat ) with you tomorrow .
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Oh I am soooooo glad I did not stay up to wait for the storytelling to begin!! Imagine, here on the East Coast it would have been 3;30 in the morning sitting here waiting!!! ;) I took a chance that TPC might not get things rollin last night and I am glad my instincts were right so I didn't miss anything. I had some great material from the forum to read this morning also and its gotten my morning off to a great start.
My guess is the adventure could be anything from another peregrine falcon family has been discovered, or maybe the Brandon site has somehow been set up with a webcam or you's all got lots and lots of pics and video of them, or perhaps even another bird has been found, a hawk or something, maybe was rescued, etc, etc. Maybe an injured bird is now in captivity being rehabilatated. Oh,,, but that rabbit comment confused me a bit. Either rescuing rabbits now are we, or, bringing rabbits in for "food" for a rabbit eater. roflol. Hmmm. what eats rabbits? LOL There are a shortage of rabbits here in NB so I don't think you are using them as a food source unless it was roadkill! Acckkk! Can't wait to hear about the "Great Adventure"!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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So ... i just read all the posts from last night. i didn't have computer access. and now ... i'll be waiting patiently (while working?)
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I am sorry that I did not get in on this last night. I have been so busy with my site and an eagle site that I have been lacking. I will post on the edmonton site later.
I will definitely check in here also. there are always a few new threads and I am not sure if we all allowed to participate in them . i am out to work out and will be back
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I can hardly wait to find out what is going on????? I hope it will be sometimes today before 3:00 when I go home. This is so nerve racking!!!!!!
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Hey, maybe TPC really did bring a chick from Brandon. ;D
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I was wondering the same thing JL
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I see TPC just put a note on the Blog, so she's awake lmao
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! PLEASE GIVE ME MORE ICAN'T STAND IT TRACY! I may have to come to work on the weekend if I don't find out more.......Tracy you are a tease
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Mother Hen, how do you think we all felt last night sitting up waiting and then nothing!
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Oh!! - TPC wouldn't dare make us go thru this whole day with no Adventure Story!! :o - I think by now she knows we're on the edge of our seats! ;D
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She so would dare!
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ROTFLOL Eagle!!! ;D
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She so would dare!
Mmhmmm, me thinks she would dare too! LOL
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My lunch hour is flexible (very in some cases), just need to know when and I can take a bit of extra time off and be there.
Second question would be where do you want to have lunch? I don't eat downtown much anymore, so my knowledge of what is still around is limited ...
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Just read the blog and it is getting curiouser and curiouser, TPC hatched a plan now to wait for the next installment and see what it turns out to be.
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Hm, well time is a bit of a factor as it'll take me 10 min to walk to Portage from Broadway, same back. Are there any Hot Dog carts on Portage? ;D..........AND - by the way TPC - how come you're over on this thread when you're supposed to be busily posting your Big Adventure ???...Hmmmmmmm :P :P
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OH!!! - Read the June 25th Blog - What on Earth???? :o - I think TPC is having an absolute BLAST torturing us!! :P
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I agree ballywing!
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my guess is ya ..... T&P are gonna be foster parents?
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OMG - How exciting would THAT be!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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That thought crossed my mind upon reading the blog.
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very, very interesting! Hmmmm. Where would the "foster chick or chicks come from though?" oh this IS soooo exciting!!
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OOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!! We need more than that!!! Please...Pretty please!!!! After last night Eye-spy and Photosbydennis hanging around torturing us we wanna hear more than that.
hmmmm... Larry did mention sleep deprevation.. Tracy didn't try and foster a rabbit onto P&T now did she? hehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hm, well time is a bit of a factor as it'll take me 10 min to walk to Portage from Broadway, same back. Are there any Hot Dog carts on Portage? ;D
A ten minute walk - heck, you won't be able to use that excuse Bally - I'm coming in from the U of M!! :D And there are still carts at the TD (now Canwest) Centre aren't there? We could meet there and walk and chat back to the Hotel and maybe we'll get lucky and see the birds
..........AND - by the way TPC - how come you're over on this thread when you're supposed to be busily posting your Big Adventure ???...Hmmmmmmm :P :P
I've started ... but I don't want to blow it all at once ... I'm spacing the entries a little to build suspense ... ;D
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Can you hear Trey's and Princess' collective sigh of relief? When you read all the way through "The Adventure" on the blog, you'll know why ... and yes, I'm spacing the entries a bit so that I can check them over and make sure I haven't forgotten anything, or the sequence of anything for that matter ...
Happy Independence Day to our American Phanatics and to our Resident Pair!
The Peregrine Chick
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I've started ... but I don't want to blow it all at once ... I'm spacing the entries a little to build suspense ... ;D
That's just mean (*** pouting in corner ***). :D
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I assume they need to find some parent-less chicks??? - That would be soooooo amazing!!! ;D...Course we may be completely off base.... ???
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Could be .... 8)
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OMG,,, maybe Trey and Princess have renested, but in a different location on the Raddison or nearby? Darn it all Tracy ya have to give us some more rope here. ;D ;D ;D
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Can't you tell already that you have us tied up in knots of suspense?
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now I am puzzled, how can it be foster chicks or anything like that with P&T signing with relief and them not hanging around as much given the lesser amount of sightings?
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So where are Eye-spy and Dennis? They are conspicuously absent today! After all the teasing they did yesterday ... they're not fraid of a few chicks, hatchlings and fledglings now are they! ;D ;D ;D ::)
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P&T wouldn't allow somebody new to nest in their territory now would they?????
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Doubtful winnipeg gal, and the plot thickens
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Well this has sure put a smile on my face this morning ;D but I have to go out all day so I will be looking forward to getting back tonight and hopfully we will know a little more of the story !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE TRACY :-*LOL
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"sighing with relief" because they don't have to go through raising chicks this year?, or because they didn't have to "defend" in between losing the first nest and the renest? or because they "found" (foster chicks) their babies and are happily raising them? Oh dear. what can it be? lol ??? :-\ ;D
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Tracy, do you need help downloading pix or videos? I'm sure some of us Phanatics are pretty good at that. ;) ;D ;D
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But Tracy could PUT some chicks in the nest for P&T to find..???? ???
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See,look at that TPC your mystery has 43 guests viewing the forum
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maybe tracy was busy hatching the egg?
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and the plot thicklens I wonder ,oh I wonder ::) ::)
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maybe tracy was busy hatching the egg?
No wonder she's tired and falling asleep at her computer! :o
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lol that would explain alot
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been 61 people on here, lol,,, over 50 at the moment, word must be getting around.
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Well I know my emails to Tracy didn't prevent her from getting online, she's been in and out of the forum so far today. hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I even got my 'In the closet' sister online!!!! :P :P
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hmmmmmmm........her blog title does say "Parent Trap, Day 1" Makes me think maybe a foster family is the answer? ;) Sure hope she doesn't leave us hanging to long to find out ...........please TP, pretty please ....... I got home from holidays just in time for all the excitement. I was very close to the Elk River site, but couldn't talk anyone into taking me right to the site to see if I could see them out and about :( . But great to see now they are doing well.
Sitting here holding my breath, Hope were not jumping to conclusions.......
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Well welcome "in closet sis" :)
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Well.............Come on TPC - we're waiting............a little more info pleeeeeease??? :-\
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K that's enough spacing already - time for another hint!!! ;D
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I agree Bally, and I am going to be busy tonight so I won't be able to check for a while.
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at least give us a hint how long you are going to make us wait for the whole story.....please?
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my refresher button is getting worn out.... ???
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LOL!!!!!! - Me too!! :P........TPC is being a brat. ::)
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okay... AT LEAST .. let us know how long inbetween pieces of the story.
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.........Silence............. :(
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I dont think she is going to tell us anymore today... just a little nibble each day.
Okay lets review, We do know so far that it is definitely about Trey and Princess and/or the Radisson as she started this thread under Radisson Peregrines! ;D and that "it" the adventure started June 25 and seems to be ongoing. what else? oh that Princess and Trey are "sighing in relief", that eyespy and dennis have been photographing and videotaping whatever "it" is. The name of the adventure is "The Parent Trap" and the movie(s) by that title were about a set of twins separated, one lived with each parent, and they schemed to get there parents back together and themselves back together, they switched places first. TPC also said that she "incubated" a plan. Well anything else we need to add? Does anyone think they have solved the puzzle lol. We have not heard anymore about the West Winnipeg peregrines for some time, maybe they DID nest, but there has been a problem and eggs or chicks have been brought to Trey and Princess?
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Hello everyone...just a question. When logging into the Falcon Cam Forum, I noticed at the top of the page that it says "TPC is eight posts from Fledging ;D" - not sure if that has some sort of hidden meaning?...maybe a clue?
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Hello everyone...just a question. When logging into the Falcon Cam Forum, I noticed at the top of the page that it says "TPC is eight posts from Fledging ;D" - not sure if that has some sort of hidden meaning?...maybe a clue?
Umm no, psgallie,, that is about TPC herself,, she reached over 500 posts recently and you turn from a "chick"with 3 stars under your name to a"fledgling" with 4 stars, well the stars part applys to the rest of us,,, but TPC has 5 stars. good observation though, it could have been a hidden meaning thing. lol
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I wondered about that too.... hmmmm... where is Agatha Christie when you need her! Although deedream is doing a pretty good job :)
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Hey psgallie - At the time she posted that, she needed to do 8 more posts to reach 500 - at that point she would turn from a 'Chick' to a 'Fledgling' !! She now has over 500 posts so she has fledged - CONGRATS TPC!! ;D
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HEY!!! - A NEW BLOG UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!! ;D - CHECK IT OUT!
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I was just delurking to to mention Day 2 was up and ballywing beat me to it! Exciting news folks. :D
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I wondered about that too.... hmmmm... where is Agatha Christie when you need her! Although deedream is doing a pretty good job :)
louloubelle, do you know if that was up there at the top of the board last night? I was not on, and I am assuming (maybe I am wrong) that it was put there then, when the girls were teasing and coaxing TPC on to post and "fledge"??? Seen it there this morning and TPC had already fledged she was just over 500 so asssumed all that went on last nite. Funny she has not taken it down today while she was on though. as its old news now.lol
HMMMMM psgallie maybe you are onto something.
She better not make us wait for 8 posts on her blog until we know what is going on. Ackkkkk, or she better speed it up, a lot, I cant take the suspense!! lol
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Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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OMG!!!!! :D
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WHAT? I looked ... didn't see a new post ... just the one titled Parent Trap 1. is there more that i'm missing?
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REad the latest blog :) :)
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Refresh - there's a Part 2!!!!!!!!!!!
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WHAT? I looked ... didn't see a new post ... just the one titled Parent Trap 1. is there more that i'm missing?
You may need to Shift+Refresh ...
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Tracy you have made our day - actually our month!! ;D ;D
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And plot continues. Now where is parent trap 3 ::) ::)
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yippeee!!! read it read it read it.... hurry everyone read it!!
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did ya read it bev.? wow..
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That's just Fantastic news. We should throw a little shower for the new parents!
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Where's Liz??? She's gonna freak!! :P ;D
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I wish I could join you guys
I remember being downtown Winnipeg one summer and man was it windy.
Now I would make a special trip as most of my husbands family lives in Winnipeg but I am watching out for Edmonton Radisson
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Try refresh if you've already added to your favorites. ;)
Cool. When's the cam going to be turned on? Are the 2 foster chicks up in the nestbox now? Me want to see!!! ;D
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TPC said their flight is tomorrow - it shows on the blog she posted at 11:59pm - so is the flight today, or tomorrow?? ???
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omg,, this is so exciting... :D but,, okay,, why are we not getting to watch by webcam? We are missing out! ??? How come?We wanna see!! LOL
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TPC said their flight is tomorrow - it shows on the blog she posted at 11:59pm - so is the flight today, or tomorrow?? ???
the date of the post is June 26th so think she wrote it then, and "tomorrow" is June 27th...
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I read it as the 26th .. so ....I'm assuming they are in Winnipeg since last friday!
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Maybe...TPC is letting the top 2 poets with the most votes name the foster chicks? That's why she ran the contest? ;)
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Right under the Day 2 blog, it says "posted by Tracy at 11:59 PM" - which I assume was last night as she had said yesterday she would be working on the blog last night. I think maybe June 26th is the day that she's writing about, when they got the paperwork and stuff done? ??? - or maybe not ?? -hmmmmmm ???
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Right under the Day 2 blog, it says "posted by Tracy at 11:59 PM" - which I assume was last night as she had said yesterday she would be working on the blog last night. I think maybe June 26th is the day that she's writing about, when they got the paperwork and stuff done? ??? - or maybe not ?? -hmmmmmm ???
TPC has always written her blogs the same day that they happen,(mostly,lol) she does not get them posted here for a few days at times. She said she had them all written, so she is posting them bits at a time and you read them in the tense of the date. June 26, tommorrow would be 27th!!!
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Has anyone popped the popcorn. I am getting hungry awaiting the next entry.
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OH MY GAWD!!!!!! OH MY GAWD I CAN'T EVEN WRITE IAM TOO EXCITED FOR WORDS.THIS IS THE GREATEST NEWS SINCE I HEARD THERE WERE 4 EGGS IN THE NEST!!!!!!! Please tell ME THEY WILL BE IN THE PENTHOUSE.How will Trey and Princess know?? I am at a lost for words.When tomarrow?? Air Canada or West jet? Male or female so many questions to ask. I would have gone and retreived them myself if you would have asked. I am old enough to remember to Parent Trap.....Haily Mills I believe!
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Yes, and now I am waiting for Parent Trap 3 I only see as far as 2
I am just going to pop some popcorn for us.
Princesses daughter here is doing a mighty fine job :) :)
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YES Mother Hen - I remember both the original Parent Trap, and then saw the remake with my kids!!! - SO - ARE THE CHICK HERE ALREADY OR WHAT??????????? :o :o
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I think by her message they were ready to leave by June27
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Are they in the nestbox??? - TPC where are you?? ;D ;D
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Hold down th fort everyone . i need to weed some dandelions and I am hoping there is a another entry when I get back in
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s----- the dandelions . I will sit here and eat soup. dandelions are a good source for salad right. :) :)
come on Tracy
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Mr. Eye-spy, is the lens all polished & ready to go with the magic click of TPC's computer? We're all anxious to see, please! ;D
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Popcorn for all of us!?
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Pchemist, get away from your BBQ and come read the news!!!!! 8)
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Yes , popcorn for all and maybe a drink or two also :) :)
How many butter.
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2 glasses to start please...lol
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Hands up all the rest of us that remember the original Parent Trap. Oh, yes!
TPC is giving us another fabulous nature lesson.
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And reminding us how old we are too.... :P
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I remember parent trap. I loved it. We could all say we saw the remake and that would make us younger :) :)
By the way Loriann I forgot to thank you for your pictures of the hawk/
Very nice indeed
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Holy Cats you guys (and gals) - I turn my back for an hour to post a blog and you drop 150 posts on this thread!!! :o
You want me to lock 'er down now or leave it open until we hit 200 or the end of the day or just leave it open until you all wear your little fingers to nubs typing so hard & fast?
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I am already on number 3 ;) ;)and if we do not hear something soon I am going to have to make dandelion wine with all the dandelions I am going to have ::) ::)
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Lol, hmmm...I've never tried dandilion wine. I have to wait til I get home since I'm at work. :)
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ooops, dandelion...see, and I haven't even started yet. ;D
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I dunno, maybe a Adventure Part 2 would be an idea - but what we REALLY want is for you to post DAY 3 on your blog.....right about now. ;D
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+ turn on the cam ;D We don't ask for much do we? :)
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yup .. we want more information.
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at least give us a hint how long you are going to make us wait for the whole story.....please?
Should have whole story finished tonight if real-life doesn't interfere, tomorrow even if real-life interferes. First two installments were posted during my lunch and coffee breaks gang, when I'm done here at work, the rest should get loaded up faster ... but I have to get home, fire up the computer (darn squirrels have been slacking recently), feed the pets, hose the aphid honeydew off my deck by which time, the 'puter squirrels should have started up the Box and we will up and blogging again ... ;D
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I think you should leave it Tracy for all those poor souls that haven't had a chance to read the news and the reactions. Besides, we don't want you to be distracted from Part 3 and the cam and .... ;D
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Let us see how high we can count :) :) O.K. we re ready!!!!
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I have been making those typos all day.
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Too true LouLou - never mind fixing threads TPC, get going on typing the rest of the story!! :P
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Now that is just plain cruel Tracy.. i am leaving my dandelions , just waiting. :) :)
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but you've only had 3...oh, that was a few minutes ago...lol
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Better eat that popcorn while its fresh, sounds like we still have a bit of waiting.
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Hey when did this thread start? ??? I've been on the 'Adventure one all day!!
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quote by TPC at beginning of this thread,
"I will be tell you all about it on the blog but I want to wait until I hear back from the other player in this piece, so that I know how it ends. Knowing y'all as I have come to, you will definitely want to know how it all ended!!
Hmm so I take it then that maybe the little chicks have not arrived at the Raddison yet?
But what would Larry and Dennis have been doing taking photos and videos if they were not here? God I cant stand it!!! Tracy!!!!!!!!!!!!! can you hear me??? Accckkkkk.
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This is what Tracy posted in the 'Lets meet Wpgers' thread...
"Should have whole story finished tonight if real-life doesn't interfere, tomorrow even if real-life interferes. First two installments were posted during my lunch and coffee breaks gang, when I'm done here at work, the rest should get loaded up faster ... but I have to get home, fire up the computer (darn squirrels have been slacking recently), feed the pets, hose the aphid honeydew off my deck by which time, the 'puter squirrels should have started up the Box and we will up and blogging again ... ;D
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OOOHHHHHH!!!!!!! So Excited!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D So are they here. what did Grelber have to do with this? They've been here for a week already and you've been hogging the cam all to yourself haven't you!!!!!! That's why nobody's seen Princess or Trey lately they've been too busy in the nestbox! squealllllll. When can we see!!!
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read parent trap 3
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Parent Trap 3 is posted
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quote off of TPC's Blog "So with Phil and Helen's help in Alberta and the assistance of Ken G, Pat and Jim at Manitoba Conservation's Wildlife and Ecosystem Protection Branch, we had all the paperwork in place and the chicks had their boarding passes for their flight tomorrow."
I bet the chicks are in Manitoba somewheres, something to do with the Manitoba Conservations Wildlife and Ecosystem protection Branch, do they have a captive bird place? lol... hmmm,, bet that is where the chickies are, or were, and that is where Darlin Dennis and lurkin Larry have been takin there photos and stuff!!! Whoohooo. thats it! Yup. and they are already now at the Radisson the chicks are, or soon will be, and that is the "ending that Tracy is waitin for to see if Trey and Princess do in fact 'adopt the chicks" Ha ha,,, thats it! ;D ;D ;D
Oh god,,, I don't know. ??? ??? ::) ::) Makes sense though. LOL.. Wheeee!! This is too much fun!!!!
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I might need another bag or two
Parent Trap 3 is posted
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go read Part 3!
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I just did!!!!!!!!!!! OMG they are in Winnipeg,, but are they at the Radisson??????
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I just checked the site to see if the cam is up yet..... no :'(
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But we want to SEE P&T discovering the chicks etc...... :-\
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Maybe that's where the pix & video comes in. ;)
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I figure that's probably what grelber had to do. Convert video into something postable? Maybe TPC didn't want to see/hear us go through any more anguish and waited until sure that P&T would take the chicks??!
How long until part 4!?
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Lol...maybe we can ask for advance on part 5...
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I don't think I can take this!! I'm away from a computer until Tuesday . . . :'( and won't be able to see how things have developed till then. :(
If it's true, I can't wait to see Trey and Princess caring for the new babies.
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Now I am going to break out the peanuts and beer. It is Friday after all
I have to go to a block party tonight and I will have to keep coming back and checking
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Poor TPC - Each blog she works so hard to provide us - keeps us happy for about 2 minutes - then we just want MORE MORE MORE!!! ;D
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What a day to be so busy elsewhere! But then again, when I come back I get all parts 1-3 at once! wow!
My lawns are mowed, my weeds are ... uh ... gone! my house has been cleaned outside (cobwebs are a hazard of living in a desert) and my patio is swept! Now I can clean up myself and the bathrooms, a quick vacuum, and I'm ready to chop veg for the snacks. And grab my own glass of something. And wait for part 4 while I celebrate Independence Day and my fiance's birthday all in one!
What a day! ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah way to go . Make me feel guilty now. I better go and do something now ;) ;)
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and more :) :)O.K. I will go and do something for a few minutes
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going out for dinner, looking forward to new posts when I return...
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Yeah way to go . Make me feel guilty now. I better go and do something now ;) ;)
nah. I have guests coming over, so I had no choice. But it does mean the rest of my long weekend will be much simpler! (I left pruning stuff for another day - but I have to prune the grapes weekly or they will take over the planet!)
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Day 4 is posted ... and contains a photo ...
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aw, Tracy , they are so cute. God bless you for being so devoted. what a trill you must have had being their mom for awhile.
Now you just have us wanting more.
thanks Tracy for being you :-* :-*
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Part 4 is ion the blogg. Happy fourth of July.
I did my pruning , just the dandelions left as I use no chemicals in my yard
do you have a winery.
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Little DARLINGS!!!! :D - Tracy you should write a book, you do such a great job describing your Big Adventure!!!! 8) - More please!!! ;D
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Did I mention that the chicks were just as greedy as y'all ?? :D
More to come, but not for a couple of hours, must deal with real life intrusion first ....
sorry ... :'(
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K I s'pose we can live with that - barely.... :P
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Yup, we are greedy. Well I will do my dishes and keep checking here during the block party. there are priorities
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ahhh,, that is so cute having two peregrine chicks in your bathroom sink!! Wow. Well I am setting my alarm for one hour and 40 minutes from now. lol kidding. I'll check back in a couple hours. This is great!
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they are adorable! oh I'm so anxious to read the next - out for dinner now and no, I don't think I'll order quail....
Tracy, thank you thank you thank you :D
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Well we don't know the RESULT of all this yet - but I have a feeling you've given a new life to our summer TPC!!! ;D - (I don't know what I did with myself before all this Phanatic business...) ??? ??? :P
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do you have a winery.
Nope - these are table grapes, not the kind you could use for wine. There are a couple vines in my yard, very very old ones by the look of the main trunk. We get quite a bit of fruit if I manage to keep up with the pruning. It's ripe in August-ish. My favorite thing is when I'm mowing or weeding or whatever, and I can pluck grapes right off the vine to get a refreshing bit of liquid and a little to eat. Really quite wonderful!
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How nice for you. I love grapes
well i got 2 bathrooms cleaned and my kitchen done so I am ready for more Tracy :) :)
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You and me bopth. i watch a few eagle cams also. I am completely bonkers
i must cut down nest year.
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Hm, well time is a bit of a factor as it'll take me 10 min to walk to Portage from Broadway, same back.
Or,... you could walk to Smith and catch the 62 or 63 or 44 or... beside the union centre.
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Well that sound you all just heard was me logging on for the first time today, and reading with GREAT DELIGHT that we are all the very happy and proud foster parents for our two new guests.. (adam and eve..lol.. a new beginning)..and
"whooooo hoooooooing '' out loud ! I could not be more happy if I had hatched them myself !
I will keep the small bits crossed that princess and trey feel the same way about our new bundles of joy... and JOY is exactly what they bring.. there is a good name too ! JOY.
What a wonderful way to start our weekend! Now, bring on the camera because we are all going thru birdie withdrawl.
Thank you Tracy for making this happen. :-*
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[/quote](I don't know what I did with myself before all this Phanatic business...) ??? ??? :P
You can say that again!
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2 glasses to start please...lol
2 glasses of butter? LOL
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Yeah, I wondered about that. Maybe this will be a discussion of red versus white glass of wine. Except, wine and popcorn? Ew!
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Well, I have finally made it through all 13 pages and finished the blog...(thanks for the heads-up Bev.) I would say this is Christmas in July time...I am just so excited I can't stand it...Congratulations to all and to Princess and Trey...and Tracy...you are one special lady!!!
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I'm sure P&T could hear me squealing with delight, even if y'all couldn't.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (etc....)
I agree -- time for the cam! Also love the idea of Adam and Eve for names, but that leaves no room for "Kyle" and that's a priority, I believe. I know I know, TPC, getting way ahead of myself with naming. ;)
:-* Tracy, thank you SO MUCH for doing this for us! (haha, like it's really for us!) You have given me new hope. I never guessed this might be your adventure. And thanks to Larry and Dennis, too! :-* (gee, never thought I'd use that smiley!!)
It's a good thing I behaved myself today and didn't check the site because if I had, I probably would have got nothing done with all the excitement!!!!!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
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Red - yes! With popcorn - NO. ;D
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Maybe it was glasses of beer. That would be okay with popcorn. Then there's the choice of Canadian or American.
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Yes i know .. jumping the gun naming...but hey.. two birds.. two names.. Kyle and Tracy...or depending on the sexes, Kylie and Trace... what ever.. Larry will have to wait until next time around.. ( sorry eye-spy)..
For now.. two spoiled with love and attention birdies is good enough. If only they knew... :-*
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Tracy didn't try and foster a rabbit onto P&T now did she? hehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
ROTFL!!!! Good one!
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maybe tracy was busy hatching the egg?
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!
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Popcorn and American beer >:(
What did popcorn ever do to you ???????????
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well I have to go an do my duty at the block party but I will be back to check in..
I can just see the headlines now.Peregrines foster a rabbit. when RAbbits Fly
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Where's Liz??? She's gonna freak!! :P ;D
Thanks for thinking of me. And yes, I did when I read it!!!!
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I do not drink beer so it had to be wine. Way back i meant one or 2 butter and then it got to 2 glasses of wine. who cares. I think we need to drink something
did you see I did say peanuts and beer later :) :)
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I am old enough to remember to Parent Trap.....Haily Mills I believe!
Yes! Not that flippin' Lindsey Lohan version (which you couldn't pay me to watch). When I was little, I thought Hailey Mills was SO cool! (oops, sorry -- off topic)
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I was too busy at work today to read the blog. It is a good thing to because I would not have been able to concentrate on work after reading it.
Wow...I can't believe what you did Tracy. It is just fantastic. Thank you so much to you and all you helpers to make this happen.
The picture of the little ones is so cute.
There was so much to read and I was reading quickly to get to the end.
Did you place the chicks in the nest box yet?
How long does it take for Princess and Trey to notice the chicks?
I just find this so exciting and so amazing.
Thanks again. You have made so many people so very happy. :D
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I bet the chicks are in Manitoba somewheres, something to do with the Manitoba Conservations Wildlife and Ecosystem protection Branch, do they have a captive bird place?
Yeah, there is. It's called, "Tracy's bathroom!" lol
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I bet the chicks are in Manitoba somewheres, something to do with the Manitoba Conservations Wildlife and Ecosystem protection Branch, do they have a captive bird place?
Yeah, there is. It's called, "Tracy's bathroom!" lol
I, too, read the TPC installment with the bathroom chicks before Deedream's comment, and had the same giggle reaction.
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I do not drink beer so it had to be wine. Way back i meant one or 2 butter and then it got to 2 glasses of wine. who cares. I think we need to drink something
did you see I did say peanuts and beer later :) :)
Yes, Bev, I knew what you really meant. I just couldn't resist having fun with it. ;) Eye-spy thinks I'm nuts! LOL
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I'm just getting caught up here. Those chicks are ADORABLE. How can P & T not love them? Thank you and all your helpers for putting this together and mostly, for putting up with us! ;D
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ahhh,, giggle giggle, I'lll laugh too at my own expense! I posted that big,,, trying to figure it all out post, and as soon as I did, someone said, read the next blog! It must have just been posted as I had refreshed it a couple minutes before my post, so I did, and said s##T couple more seconds and I could have deleted half of that! ROFLOL.. Then was too excited about the news to care about modifying it! lol
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Tracy is no doubt catching up on some well deserved snoozing, but I'm sure she will reveal all in short time. So, for now, good night to all.
;D Thanks Eye-spy, if Tracy is snoozing, it means the chicks are in good talons. ;)
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ahhh,, giggle giggle, I'lll laugh too at my own expense! I posted that big,,, trying to figure it all out post, and as soon as I did, someone said, read the next blog! It must have just been posted as I had refreshed it a couple minutes before my post, so I did, and said s##T couple more seconds and I could have deleted half of that! ROFLOL.. Then was too excited about the news to care about modifying it! lol
Hey, it wouldn't have been funny at the time -- a totally understandable Q. But it was pretty funny catching up later, after having read the blog, as bcbird did. Sorry deedream, it wasn't a laugh at your expense! I just had to make the comment -- thought it was so funny, in hindsight. ;D
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Just checking in - Bomber Game half-time - they're stinkin' up the place anyway. - So I think we're ready for PART 5 any time now.. ;D
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Yeah, getting kicked!!
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More to come, but not for a couple of hours, must deal with real life intrusion first ....
....like running out to turn on the web cam so we can see Part 5 Live maybe ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Ya!!!! - I'll second that motion~~ ;D
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Yeah... Eye-spy was on awhile ago and I was going to ask him about that; but I see he's gone now. Rats! (Charlie Brown, if you're wondering.)
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Shouldn't we be using the July 4 thread for all of this??
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Lightening jsut toook off!!!!!
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one of her brothers came in a few minutes before looking for food in the corner, grabbed a feather, went back out the left side, she just watched him and didn't squawk like she usually does and then soon after, went the same way after going in & out of left side a couple of times...quite possible she's on the roof
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ooops, wrong link, should be GRE (Elk River)
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was there a day that you guys picked to meet?
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omg omg omg omg *chills and tears after reading TPC's blog* and speechless too omg. I never dreamt that you would hatch such a plan but a darn good plan if I do say so myself! OMG
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Eagle? speechless? NOT ! :P
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Wow all this excitement tonight!! ;D
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Eagle check your bulk folder for some more photos...
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Yeah... Eye-spy was on awhile ago and I was going to ask him about that; but I see he's gone now. Rats! (Charlie Brown, if you're wondering.)
Of course Charlie Brown! Rats! and ARGH and other expressive "olden" days expressions never fail to amaze my daughters when I use them. Amaze=not very impressed, do not understand, look of bafflement. Teenagers, though, really do not want you to use the expressions they do. sigh.....
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omg omg omg .... still speechless. Just got caught up on this thread.
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Is that mom out there?
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ut oh, I emptied it without looking because there was like 387 in the bulk folder can you resend them?
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Somebody hit me, I amso excited I deleted Loriann's pics AGAIN :-[
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Somebody hit me, I amso excited I deleted Loriann's pics AGAIN :-[
i love pictures ... what pictures do you have loriann?
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Wrong thread JL? ???
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Part 5 please Tracy......any time now would be good... ;D
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Not yet. Like every other thread, this one has gone astray! LOL
I think somewhere from Tues-Thurs, because some of us have Fri or Mon off work. Is there a time that works best for you, or are you flexible like me?
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I think maybe Wed around 12:30 or so was the last suggestion - just need to confirm where and who and do we eat or just sit & stare at the nest-box... :P :P
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Eagle? speechless? NOT ! :P
Oh trust me there are occasions where it happens, I can get speechless and tonight is one of them
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Not yet. Like every other thread, this one has gone astray! LOL
I think somewhere from Tues-Thurs, because some of us have Fri or Mon off work. Is there a time that works best for you, or are you flexible like me?
I'm really flexable.
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Part 5 please Tracy......any time now would be good... ;D
ya .. i was expecting Tracy to post another part, but maybe ..... just maybe she has a life? So what if I've spent my entire evening waiting ... ;)
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Life?...what life??? - This IS her life!!!..... ;D ;D :P ,,,,,seems like lately, this is MY life too! ::)
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Of course Charlie Brown! Rats! and ARGH and other expressive "olden" days expressions never fail to amaze my daughters when I use them. Amaze=not very impressed, do not understand, look of bafflement. Teenagers, though, really do not want you to use the expressions they do. sigh.....
LOL -- for sure -- totally understand! Amaze=not very impressed! :D I use Rats all the time, and so did my mum. Guess it prob wasn't very cool when she did now that you mention it, since Peanuts was something from our time, not hers. But she never cursed, so Rats was good enough for me! Argh works for me too! Polite chat for a forum, and gets the point across ;D
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Apparently, she has RL, unlike us...lol ;D
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I am wondering if anyone knows if the odds are good for Trey and Princess accepting the new chicks. I would imagine they must be pretty good or Tracy wouldn't be doing this. I suppose the worst that can happen is they don't accept them and then they would have to fly back to Edmonton to be brought up by their human friends. Which really wouldn't be all that bad, would it?
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Not allowed a RL til she finishes her story and we know what's what!! ;D
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I want to put them in my bathroom sink! ;D
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Not allowed a RL til she finishes her story and we know what's what!! ;D
the only thing i know is ......if the story ended badly ... she would never have told us.
so ..... the outcome must be good. We will just have to be like kids at Christmas and have a little patience. (not gonna happen really)
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Eye-spy mentioned that TPC is now getting her snooze. She mentioned that she had to feed them every 4 hours. So if she's sleeping, the chicks are very well taken care of. ;) ;D
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Somebody hit me, I amso excited I deleted Loriann's pics AGAIN :-[
i love pictures ... what pictures do you have loriann?
Send her your email address and ask for photos, and she'll send them to you.
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These were ones she had sent to me and I don't understand why they wo uld go to my bulk mail since I think I added her to my address book hmmmmmmmmmmm
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I am wondering if anyone knows if the odds are good for Trey and Princess accepting the new chicks. I would imagine they must be pretty good or Tracy wouldn't be doing this.
Yeah, she wouldn't do it if she thought it wouldn't work. Apparently "fostering" happens regularly -- just learned that this year!
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Prob just because the size of the e-m was too big. Photos take up a ton of space.
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Yeah I know but it's usually no problem with the account I have. I've gotten songs through this account.
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[the only thing i know is ......if the story ended badly ... she would never have told us.
so ..... the outcome must be good.
You're right! We just have to wait for that camera to come online. LARRY???!!!!!!!!
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I think maybe Wed around 12:30 or so was the last suggestion - just need to confirm where and who and do we eat or just sit & stare at the nest-box... :P :P
Okay everyone -- how does this work for y'all?? Wed the 9th at 12:30 pm -- lunchtime-ish.
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So ... we have to wait for the story to end untill they put back on the web cam.
I'm fairly certain the little ones are already being taken care of by P&T already. (in the little story in my head anyway)
I did stand on portage ave looking up at the nest box for a longish time this afternoon looking ... looking ...ya ... more looking.
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My ears are burning
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They really shouldn't be Eye Spy
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works for me! I'd love to see the other wierd people who look up into the sky ....
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My ears are burning
ya .. you know the poop ... spill it baby!
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I may be bigger, but she will kick my a**.
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ahh haww,we have Eyespy and Dennis on here, come on,,, give us a hint?
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works for me! I'd love to see the other wierd people who look up into the sky ....
LOL -- me too! As for if we just meet at the hotel and stare up, or meet at P&M and get a hotdog and walk to the hotel eating (as TPC suggested), up to all of you. Perhaps we don't all have to do the same thing -- some can meet and get food, and then meet up with others at the hotel who have less time or don't want to eat. ??
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Hi Everyone!
This is my first time posting but I have been a faithful phanatic since Day 1. My Hubby thinks I've lost my mind but I am absolutely dying here.....Need more info... :D
Tracy, I admire your love and devotion to these beautiful creatures - you are a great Mom!!
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I may be bigger, but she will kick my a**.
I can't imagine that being a pretty site either lmao
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I see Larry and Dennis are both on. Thanks for all you did guys!
Larry, when do we get the online camera?
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Yeah thanks to Larry and Dennis for their contributions in this adventure. Must be killing you to not be able to say anything for a week, oh wait you still can't say anything really lmao
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Hi Everyone!
This is my first time posting but I have been a faithful phanatic since Day 1. My Hubby thinks I've lost my mind but I am absolutely dying here.....Need more info... :D
Tracy, I admire your love and devotion to these beautiful creatures - you are a great Mom!!
We all know about others thinking we're nuts! Glad to have you aboard!!!! We prob ARE weird but who cares? -- we have fun here! Welcome, and jump in! :)
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Welcome to the family CantitoeFalcon!
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LOL. Chatter up, guys!
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Thanks Liz & Eagle!! I am constantly checking my BlackBerry for Blog & Forum updates - people must really think I'm addicted to it but I just think I'm addicted to this website.
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Yay! - another Phanatic out of the closet (no it's not my sister - YET) :P...I don't think any of us thought we'd get so attached and addicted to the falcons, the chicks, the forum, the chat - it just happened!! - TPC has alot to do with that I think... ;D
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Dear Santa
I've been pretty good this year, but I think Eagle needs a poke in the eye.
You friend, Larry the Accountant
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Just back from block party and no news :'( :'(Actually the block party was rained out but a few people ended up here. i did keep coming and looking at the blog. Boy! oh boy!!my husband tells everyone he does not see me until after bird season.
It will be bed time soon
cam is getting dark in Edmonton so I am just doing my last post for there .
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Why? ? ? ? ? Yes your name came up a few times but hey no wonder you're part of the big mystery.
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Dear Santa
I've been pretty good this year, but I think Eagle needs a poke in the eye.
You friend, Larry the Accountant
Larry .... sorry .. you've been a bad boy .. you get ...... NOTHING! ;D
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Why? ? ? ? ? Yes your name came up a few times but hey no wonder you're part of the big mystery.
Your picking on me for my imposed silence
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Last year we had a foster chick placed in our nest here in edmonton. It is done quite often. I will have to go back and see what expression they used.
thanks Larry and Dennis for your part.
I am on pins and needles
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Just back from block party and no news :'( :'(Actually the block party was rained out but a few people ended up here. i did keep coming and looking at the blog. Boy! oh boy!!my husband tells everyone he does not see me until after bird season.
It will be bed time soon
cam is getting dark in Edmonton so I am just doing my last post for there .
Bev .... have you posted your pictures before you went to bed?
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Then some others need a poke in the eye too lol not just me
Speaking of eye, I need to get some shut eye. I am off to bed shortly. G'night all you Phanatics, closeted or not.
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I am thinking that maybe tomorrow when we wake up the cam will be on and everything will be revealed. maybe that is why we do not have the other part yet
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I think I posted some. I better go an look . Maybe I forgot. Hav eyou been watching th Edmonton cam??
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Yay! - another Phanatic out of the closet. I don't think any of us thought we'd get so attached and addicted to the falcons, the chicks, the forum, the chat - it just happened!! - TPC has alot to do with that I think... ;D
Yes, I agree about TPC She's a great shepherd(ess). Damn -- am I adding sheep to the collection?! lol
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omg Liz you gotta stop!!!!!
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I think I posted some. I better go an look . Maybe I forgot. Hav eyou been watching th Edmonton cam??
I've been relaying on you! I should look for myself .. but ....well your pictures are great!
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I think we need a web-cam on TPC. No more hiding from us. ;D
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;) ;) ;) ;D :D :D :D I AM SOOOOO HAPPY INSIDE.
I HOPE ALL GOES TO PLAN ! THANKS TRACY,LARRY AND DENNIS FOR MAKING THIS SO FUN FOR US ALL, EVEN IF IT MEANS WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT >:(.
CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR TOMORROW !
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Perhaps you're right. Apparently Larry isn't going to share that info.
HOWEVER -- I have to say, can we PLEASE get on to ONE thread tomorrow? Not June 26 - July 3, not Independence Day, not whatever else we're posting in with random dates. Just "July 5" in Radisson Peregrines. Please? :)
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I just posted this on the other thread
I am thinking that maybe tomorrow when we wake up the cam will be on and everything will be revealed. maybe that is why we do not have the other part yet
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Just setting this up for tomorrow -- don't post til after midnight, CDT. ;D (Sorry, taking control! Then going to bed.)
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Yay! - another Phanatic out of the closet (no it's not my sister - YET) :P...I don't think any of us thought we'd get so attached and addicted to the falcons, the chicks, the forum, the chat - it just happened!! - TPC has alot to do with that I think... ;D
Absolutely right, Ballywing, about TPC. She has so much enthusiasm, knowledge and experience to share, we get very caught up.
This is an amazing forum. A comfortable place to learn about these amazing birds, and make incidental discoveries about places and people across the country, too.
So, Welcome, CantitoeFalcon!
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I am all for that . I found it confusing going to all the threads..Although I am a little confusing sometimes anyway :) :)
Good night all
Can hardly wait for tomorrow
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Nighty nite Bev .
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Nite folks!
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This Forum is great - I had the privilege of meeting a Master Falconer (RFK Jr.) last November in New York and fell in love with these birds and I so regret not having prior knowledge of our very own "Project" which I would have loved to discuss with him.
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I am thinking that maybe tomorrow when we wake up the cam will be on and everything will be revealed. maybe that is why we do not have the other part yet
You just may be right about that Bev! - we'll have to check that out first thing in the am!! - How exciting would that be!!! ;D
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Goodnight, all. Off to bed myself soon too.
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Is it for sure do you think that nothing else will be posted tonight?
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12:30 Wed works for me too! I'm bringing my Binocs!!!!! :P
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Is it for sure do you think that nothing else will be posted tonight?
TPC might just be lurking waiting for all of us kids to go to bed so she could put out our present!
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Do you think?! There are 34 guests. She could be hidden in that crowd, all right.
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Is it for sure do you think that nothing else will be posted tonight?
Who are you asking? Larry and Dennis might know things we don't, but I'd guess most of us think TPC has enough on her plate and she, like us in after-midnight time (Manitoba), and further east where it's later, all need to go to bed! ;D Hopefully tomorrow we'll get more news, and Larry and CBC will have the camera up and running!
And yeah, maybe I'm wrong and she is online waiting for us all to give up! ;D
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If she has to do feedings all night long, I hope she's sleeping!! - As long as we get our present in the morning, we can allow her to get some rest tonight.....right gang?... :P
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Yup!
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TPC most definitely has more than enough on her plate, and is well deserving of many hours of uninterrupted sleep!
I'm having trouble tearing myself away from the forum a little earlier than usual (for a bcbird, anyway,) and don't at all expect TPC to be heard from until Saturday.
Sleep well, Phanatics!
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Goodnight everyone! 12:20-ish here -- time to hit the hay. Hope we have a camera tomorrow on P&T and the foster kids. Have a good sleep!
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Morning!!! 7:30am - No Cam , No Part 5......C'mon TPC, time to get up and put us out of our misery!! ;D
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Lol...ballywing..I thought the same thing!
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yes we are more than ready for that cam to go up!!! elk river kids seem to have hit the roof or went somewheres, before we were up,, so lets get this show going!! lol
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My morning to sleep in but I had to get up and see .I thought for sure the cm would be on and voila!!! ???
I can hear Tracy snoring so she must be tired but I am ready :) :)
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Well on the plus side, now I can go do groceries and not have to worry about missing anything. Hopefully by the time I get home we'll have another update ;D One thing is for sure, the meat at the butcher shop won't look the same after hearing about the quail ;D
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Thank you SO much Liz for getting this back to one thread. I was going nuts trying to figure out what to read in short bursts yesterday!
Eagerly waiting for part 5, hoping Elk River kids will visit again, and looking forward to a much-less-busy day for me. (Today my dad is the one doing the big bbq thing, so all I have to do is show up and eat! May go early and hang in the hot tub and relax even more).
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Still no news .Well off to farmers market. Hopefully when I get back :) :)
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thanks for the postures Loriann. What a beautiful specimen :) :)
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Patiently waiting here for more info .... sure hope something comes soon.
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What joy! new babies, new antics to watch...
I don't have the words to express the joy I feel.
I would just give you this very short poem by Robert Frost that says it all, simply but so eloquently in one sentence. Enjoy!
Dust of Snow
The way a crow
Shook down on me
The dust of snow
From a hemlock tree
Has given my heart
A change of mood
And saved some part
Of a day I had rued.
ROBERT FROST
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I like that, moka! Thanks.
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Thought I'd check back in in hopes that "Day 5" had been posted...TPC is definitely keeping us in suspense!!! But if all goes well, the wait is gonna be worth it...back to my chores...I'll come back later. BTW, Moka, I liked the Frost poem.
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Had a Yard Sale today so wasn't able to check in til now, looks like I didn't miss anything...hope we hear something else today!!!! :-\
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Well I was out today getting a new powercord for my laptop so I am glad also that I didn't missed anything. Had I not gotten the new power cord I could have blown the motherboard and that would have really ticked me off to no end. Thankfully it all ended well and I can still view the goings on with various webcams that I watchlol
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no news? my goodness. She did say she was going to post the rest of the story last nite unless RL interferred,, but would post it today even if RL did interfere.
I am pretty curious about the rest of the story. I mean if the chicks were in place at the Radisson with P &T wouldn't they be letting us watch? They would not let us miss out on a day would they? It is such a short time to begin with.
I mean this is a fascinating story, and RL for Tracy, I just hope it ended well. I will believe they are there when I see them! I can't handle another let down, I am taking the wait and see attitude. Can't wait to see!!LOL
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so here I am ...wnadering the streets downtown ...stumbling because i'm looking up too much.
i've had a couple locals ask me what I was lookin at after they first asked me for money.
i'm standing at the corner of portage and donald hoping to see something.
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LOL Msdolittle, that's hilarious. Maybe if you had binocs you could see up there better..... :P - I don't know why TPC hasn't posted anything today, hopefully all is ok?? :-\
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I agree that it is difficult waiting. We think about all sorts of things as to why there hasn't been any news. Some good, some not so good. Who was it that said, "Patience is a Virtue"... Definitely not me... :)
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I am home and nothing....Surely th end is good or Tracy would not have done the story this way. maybe they had to band them???
Who knows
Now I will post in Edmonton.
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Does intrusion of RL mean real life for THIS story of the chicks, or unrelated real life for TPC. Either way seems to be more time than what she expected. I hope things are going well....
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Maybe she did post it, and it got "eaten" like June 19 - 26.
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I am going nuts here. anyone else???
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hmmmmmm...."a watched pot never boils..." and I've been watching this pot too much...I'm not even gonna try and speculate what the delay is....but I like the "blog was eaten" theory, Liz...
...and while we are waiting...have ya ever thought about how much watching and waiting we do with these cams...I've got 3 cams open now..."waiting" to see if juvies are gonna return to the ledge tonight...geeez, when I could be doing laundry, balancing my checkbook, cleaning the toilets, the list is endless... ;D ;D ;D
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getting to the point of being nuts but too tired to fully go nuts
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I am going nuts here. anyone else???
;D :o :P ME!!! ;) :D :)
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OH...I just noticed...Deedream, Liz, and Eagle...you're all fledglings...Congratulations (applause!)
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And TPC fledged also !
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I would suggest no one expect the webcam to be online before Monday morning. Most of the CBC website people don't work on the weekends -- it's mostly just staffed from Toronto outside business hours.
Tracy will tell us more eventually, I'm sure, but in the meantime, I would expect to wait until Monday, when there will likely be a story on the website to accompany the relaunch of the Falcon Cam.
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Did I bum everybody out with my last post? :(
btw, I'm Lara, Katya is my 4-year-old.
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Not me. We just have to be patient. Good to see you online, Lara -- it's been awhile!
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Eye-spy, can you give us any update on the camera?
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Patience is not my best virtue but......
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well .....can't say i'm not disappointed I didn't hear something good or bad today.
oh well ....nite folks
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Night msdolittle
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Have a good sleep!
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good night everyone. sweet dreams of chicks in our heads
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I am so sad!!!I really thought this would have worked. It has worked here in alberta. :'( :'(
thanks Tracy for trying. You are a real trooper
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I read too bev, refreshed the blog after reading hoping for more and it all was gone!! I don't know if I should hope for a miracle on the third or not :'(
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I am so sad after reading the adventures. :'( :'( thank-you Tracy for trying. I really thought it would work. You are a real trooper. I am sure you were heart broken :'( :'(
Lots of hugs
Bev.
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I noticed too that it was all gone. did thye go back and find that Trey and princess were there.
did we dream up the entries ??? ???
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Okay Bev, you lost me. Why are you so sad, what have you heard?
I have to admit that it is strange that the blog for day four of the adventures has disappeared - I DID read it and there WAS a picture!
Can't wait for the continuing adventures!
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Day 4 is back with a new picture.......is that the nest box on the Radisson ?
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Why not meet in the lobby of the Radisson at 12:30 on Wednesday and we can decide what we want to do - if Princess and Trey are around, we could watch them, if not, go for a hot dog or whatever at Portage & Garry and hope that the birds turn up in the meantime ....
Just an idea, as I said, its up to you all, your first "official" peregrine patrol ...
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I apologize for the delay in posting the rest of the story Gang, it was unintentional. If I'd known what kind of problem it was (a wee technical problem with the blog database) and that it might prevent me from posting, I would never have started the tale only to stop half-way through.
I'm afraid I spent the day working with my ISP to correct the problem - we had more than a little concern that it would also affect the Forum and that I couldn't allow to happen. The backups have been failing in the last few days so we would have lost all your posts had the 'base failed.
Tracy
The Peregrine Chick
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What a heart breaking tale, I won't say much more as people are still sleeping and haven't had a chance to read through it yet. Thank you for taking the time to do what you did.
I wish I was a peregrine when I see the pictures of those 2 little ones..they are just adorable.
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woke up early this Sunday morning hoping for the rest of the story and of course, a happy ending.... but this isn't TV and sheer will doesn't always work. :( :(
Tracy and all of your amazing team, thank you for trying and for teaching us so much. So sorry that notwithstanding all of your truly astonishing efforts, it wasn't to be. So sad.
the 'Adventure' was undoubtedly very expensive and I am sure that a number of us would be in a position to send a contribution to help cover the costs. Please tell us how we can do this in a way that helps the most.
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I guess my entry confused everyone but Winnipeg Gal and i read this and then it disappeared .We read all but the last entry.I thought I had gone nuts. I will e-mail you Tracy.
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Well I eagerly opened the forum this morning hoping for some news. Read the last part of the story first - oops. And with a sinking heart, started again at Part 5 to finish what I already knew was not the exact ending we all wanted. :-\
The story has left me so sad, but completely in awe of Tracy and her team, the dedication, effort, sacrifice & commitment to the cause they so deeply believe in, is beyond words. :'(
I think we all believed there would be a storybook ending. A new beginning, 'Happily Ever After'. ;D....
Obviously 'RL' isn't like that........but I believe all the emotions and events of this 2008 season, the sharing of thoughts, hopes & feelings on the forum with new found friends will only make the falcon cause more widely known, more supported & better understood by so many more people. And that is part of what Tracy works towards.
Thanks Tracy, for your wonderfully written account of the 'Big Adventure' - It's a story that should definitely go into a wildlife magazine!!
- Although I know you & your fantastic team must be most disappointed of all, this experience will only add to your expertise and knowledge, and now you can say you've been a Peregrine MOM!! ;D Thanks for everything you've done, and for all the time you spend keeping 'Phanatics' informed. You have created quite the 'family' here and that in itself is quite the accomplishment. Now I shall go & read the whole story again from the start - ponder, digest and accept. :-\ ....We look forward to news of our 'almost' new kids. ;D
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well too bad P&T weren't in the mood to be parents again....but a great effort non the less. Good try Tracy.
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Well, I woke to a new e-mail on a "new topic" from the forum. I brought up the blog and forum quickly, but read the "new topic" July 6 directly from my e-mail, and it was Bev's comment on being sad, etc. So I knew the ending before I read the blog. Don't feel bad bev. we all would have found out soon enough, and when you go to the blog now that it is all up there, you see the ending first so everyone this morning will know the ending before they read part 5 and so on.
I feel bad for Tracy and all the "team" that this project didn't work, and now they have gotten attached to more litle ones! Very professional to not have shared this with us, without knowing the end! I understand completely. I am sure TPC you are feelling a bit bad about telling us even, especially when you read the posts and everyones excitement and optimism that these chicks were safely with Trey and Princess, and you knew that it hadn't worked. Its quite alright. That is RL, and your RL story captured our attention and made us feel good for a few days. i agree with ballywing that this would be a great magazine article. Hope that your local newspaper publishes it and perhaps CBC will put it on there site. What an amazing effort you put in to trying to make this adoption work! Bravo! :D All the best.
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I did feel bad when I realized the entry had disappeared adn no one would know what I ahd seen. I shuld have gone back an ddeleted my entry and for that I am sorry guys.
this is the post I amde on the blog site
I am off t shurch now an di wil check in later
Ves, thank-you to all who tried to make this happen..I prayed hard for this to have a great ending but..there is always a reason for things and Trey and Princess probably just need a break. It was probably too late in their cycle and their desire had diminished too much.
It is people like you, Tracy , and your crew , that make it possible for these magnificent birds to thrive. that we are all invited to share in the experiences is just a bonus. We all understand that the good of the birds is front most concern and although we like to know everything , we know it is not always possible. I have learned that over the years.
You will miss the youngsters but I am sure you all need some much deserved rest now.
sleep well an thank-you all for your efforts Big hugs
Bev..
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Thank you to Tracy and her great team!
What a wonderful story of hope and challenge.
Although there is sadness because Trey & Princess weren't ready to adopt, I am so filled with awe and thankfulness that there are so many people helping the birds and their chicks. Nature has found some terrific helpers in your group.
You've also managed to bring us into the fold.
Our ongoing education in all things falcon, will surely add to the knowledge around us. We can continue to spread the news.
Again, THANK YOU!
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Blog has been updated. explanation is on the blog.
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I will write, once I've had a chance to absorb etc, what it is I am thinking and feeling and can articulate my thoughts about this adventure. Everyone who has posted so far has echoed and aptly articulated what I would probably have said and don't want to be redundent.
As to the Adventure itself and people suggesting it be published in a magazine, my thoughts would be to have it appear in one of the Bird magazine's :)
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Are you all right eagle? I was wondering cause your first couple posts today are very brief. It is a dissapointment. I truly hope you are alright. :)
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Well, I guess wishing those disappearing blog entries were a dream is all for naught bev. I agree I was hoping the same thing. I would like to say thank you to Tracy and Larry and Dennis for telling us about the great adventure even though it didn't turn out quite the way we all hoped. I hope you all get the rest you so richly deserve. Thank you!
Tracy you mentioned in your blog that one of the reasons for trying to introduce new chicks for P&T to foster was to reinforce their dominance of their territory. That other non-breeding birds wouldn't be tempted to challenge for the site. Are there specific reasons to believe that that may happen next year? Is there something particular you have seen or noticed that may suggest that? Or is that just supposition and a possibility based on other sites and general nature?
Just curiousity getting the better of me.
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Well, when I got to the forum, like everyone else I saw the whole thing there with the titles, so knew the end as I was reading. But it was beautifully written, painted a great picture, and I enjoyed learning what was involved with the attempt. I'm glad to know the chicks are safely back home. Thanks very much for making the attempt, and for sharing the story with us.
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Tracy you mentioned in your blog that one of the reasons for trying to introduce new chicks for P&T to foster was to reinforce their dominance of their territory. That other non-breeding birds wouldn't be tempted to challenge for the site. Are there specific reasons to believe that that may happen next year? Is there something particular you have seen or noticed that may suggest that? Or is that just supposition and a possibility based on other sites and general nature?
Just curiousity getting the better of me.
Hi winnipeg gal, yes lets wait for Tracy's answer, however this may help while we await her answer. I do recall that she said that Trey and Princess had not been "defending" there territory. I think its in the first part of when she was telling us she had a surprise for us. She was saying that they were scraping, and had not left the area, etc. but were not defending. I did not really know what that meant at the time. I thought it just meant they were tired. (LOL) The significance of them "not defending" at other peregrines passing through however now sounds like a darn good reason to try anything to get them to defend, including fostering a family. To insure they come back next year and also to hopefully lessen the chances of them having to fight for there turf next year. Remember Trey is an old bird by peregrine standards. How horrid to hear that he died from a battle next spring. I am learning so much from Tracy and this forum it is unreal.
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Are you all right eagle? I was wondering cause your first couple posts today are very brief. It is a dissapointment. I truly hope you are alright. :)
Deedream I replied to you in a Personal Message
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Well, I wish I could think of some words of wisdom or some deep philosophical comment, but I can't. I read the "End of the Tale" early this morning, but just needed time to digest the information....and I still don't have anything profound to say other than I am just so, so sorry this didn't work out. Sorry for Princess and Trey, sorry for all of us "Falcon Fanatics", and sorry for you, Tracy and team. What a brilliant idea, and I know enormous effort and expense must have gone into this very special undertaking. And we all thank you for that!!! Gosh!! Foster chicks never even crossed my mind.
Well, I'm very disappointed and bummed, but from a selfish, human standpoint. The important thing is for those 2 precious chicks to find a good home, and Princess and Trey to continue to renew their bond, defend their territory, and plan for next year...
How many falcon chicks have flown twice in an airplane, slept in a bathroom sink, been hand fed gourmet food by one very special TPC.
Thanks Tracy...even though the "Tale" didn't have the ending we had all hoped for, it was a great read and full of great heart!!!
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Tracy et al, everyone has already said anything I could. It would have been wonderful if it had worked out, and I really appreciate everyone's work to make it happen. Que sera, sera. Now I understand why Larry couldn't answer me last night when I asked about the camera.
I'd like to add, as for "why you didn't tell anyone what you were up to", I believe it was the right decision. To watch this unfold inch by inch, and then fail, probably would have been more than a lot of us could bear. We've been thru a lot already this year. I appreciate you and the gang taking it on your own shoulders, to save us. It's disappointing for all, but you now need to get some well-deserved rest; and we have next year to look forward to.
In the meantime, we've all made some interesting friends -- this wasn't all for naught! :D
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That works for me! Wed, 12:30, Radisson lobby. I won't have a red carnation in my lapel, but Tracy will be the one who looks like Tracy -- we can find each other that way! LOL ;D
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When I saw how few people were on the forum, seeing that the entire adventure was posted, I guessed the ending was different than hoped for.
Much has been said that I echo.
Thank you Tracy for this story, for doing such heroic work for Recovery, and providing superb wild life education. We Phanatics have greatly benefited from your hard work on this forum. We have been enriched both by your knowledge and the fellowship of the other members.
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Let's see if I can put some semblence of words together to make a coherent sentence. I think I am safe in saying that anyone who has been a part of this forum this year that it has been quiet a roller coaster these last few days. Reminiscent of Black Friday in some ways. When I read the blog this morning I had a feeling before I came to the end that P&T just weren't up for another round of parenting this year. Admittedly part of me was sad for that, been asking myself all day - *how the heck did I get so attached to this particular webcam* I can only imagine how attached Tracy must have gotten to having two little fluff balls of white in her apartment for the duration of their stay. I thought, funny those two got to fly before they could even think of flying on their own.
I was amazed by deedream inquiring if I was alright. It never occured to me that anyone would notice I wasn't myself. Yes I've communicated with some of you via personal message but still it speaks to how smart you all are to pick up on little things like that. I wrote to deedream in a personal message and will kinda sumerize here. She was astute to pick up that I am not myself. It's a combination of feeling sad at the closed chapter of this year's hopes for chicks being raised at the radisson. I didn't want to say anything here in the forum but in the past week there has been a loss in my family and my heart has been with my aunt and cousins and it brought up a lot of memories of the two profound losses I've experienced in 2000 and 2001. As I sit here writing this I can feell the tears coming to the surface. I am not telling you all this because I want sympathy I just know some of you will have read deedream's question she posed to me and I felt it was only fair to explain to you all why my posts have been indeed brief.
Now, to Tracy and the legion of people who have endeavoured to bring a little ray of sunshine into an already sad season. I can only say THANK-YOU for having the compassion and drive to continue to strive in the recovery of a magnificant species. Like human life there are indeed ups and downs and you all perservered with an idea that was beautifully told and made it feel like we were with you every second. I bet Tracy when you were going to school to become the biologist you are that you never dreamed you would one day be a temporary foster mom to two peregrine chicks.
Tracy, your concern and compassion for us here in the forum spoke volumes when you articulated the reason for not announcing the plan as it was happening. You were so considerate with that decision, curtesy these days is all to rare in this world.
In closing I just want to say that although the season at the Radisson is offically closed I would venture to say I hope we here in the forum keep in touch throughout the remainder of our calendar year until next spring?
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I'd like to add, as for "why you didn't tell anyone what you were up to", I believe it was the right decision. To watch this unfold inch by inch, and then fail, probably would have been more than a lot of us could bear. We've been thru a lot already this year. I appreciate you and the gang taking it on your own shoulders, to save us.
Absolutely agree with that Liz!!......Remember the huge excitement generated a few days ago, by just the 'hint' of another chance for P&T?? .....So just IMAGINE the devastation we'd be going thru now, if we had followed along and been part of the whole adventure. - We'd have been over the moon!! - Tracy would have had to keep us in the loop constantly, distracting her from the very important task at hand. - We'd have been asking constant questions, demanding the latest info, begging her not to give up, making suggestions & offering ideas or advice we're not qualified or equipped to give - and in the end we'd have had an ENORMOUS fall back to earth. :'( ....I don't know how you got to be so WISE Tracy, but you did the exact right thing, in the exact right way. .. We sure would have picked a different ending to your adventure - but it was nice to have such happy, hopeful feelings & chats, even if it was only for a short while. - We've all learned alot from this unforgettable 2008 season. I know the lump in my throat & knot in my tummy will lessen slowly but surely. Rest up Tracy & Team, you deserve a big fat vacation right about now!! 8)
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Will have more photos of the chicks in the next day or so. Peregrines 2008 http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/peregrine_2008
Cheers !
Dennis
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Tracy-you do not have to apologize to any of us for keeping us out of the loop. We aren't the primary participants-the birds are. You do for them first and foremost. You have done a great job of including us when you could. We cannot ask for more. Bottom line is, these are wild birds-we can only help nature so much. You did what you could to help things along, but nature still makes the final decisions. All we can do is hope she has the same idea for an ending that we do, and this year, it wasn't meant to be.
It has been a sad year, but look at the friendships that have been forged through this message board-those of you who have been talking regularly will most likely continue to do so. You would not have met otherwise. That in itself is a priceless thing.
I thank all who made the experience possible and look forward to next year. I began watching last year and have learned so much about falcons and human nature (the latter over the last few weeks-there are good souls out there with big hearts who can cry over a little bird).
I wish you all well-eagle63-I have been where you are and felt a similar overwhelming sense of loss when the birds died. I couldn't understand why it should bother me so much, but then recognized it for what it was. Feel better soon.
See you on the board next year. Thanks again to Tracy, Larry, Dennis, Kyle and everyone else who participated. Perhaps we'll catch up with you in Winnipeg when we visit some day.
All the best--BevB
PS_I love the photos of the chicks in the sink.
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I have already replied to this and I still feel a sense of loss. I have experienced at my own site last year an dI can truly emphasize with all of you on this forum.
I hope I can keep some joy alive by continuing to post the antics of the Edmonton nest
I was not here as much as some of you but that was becasue so much was going on at my own nest site. 2008 has been a very stressful year for a lot of sites but I think the utmost thing is to think of our adult pairs. I hope they remain healthy at al sites and that they can all retain their status .
I will continue to keep checking in if that is O.K.I may even have some news.
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I think your Edmonton site was a little neglected recently Bev - what with the antics of the Elk River chicks during fledging, and the Wpg 'Adventure' caper - but Radisson & her baby will no doubt have a flock of Phanatics return now, to watch her first & only chick grow & fledge. ;D
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Is it for sure do you think that nothing else will be posted tonight?
TPC might just be lurking waiting for all of us kids to go to bed so she could put out our present!
Naw, I don't lurk :D
If I'm here, I'm logged on as TPC. Only fair to you all.
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Day 4 is back with a new picture.......is that the nest box on the Radisson ?
Day 4 has the photo of the chicks in the bathroom sink, Day 5 shows half (the inside half, the part that is covered and protected from the elements) of the nestbox on the Hotel. When I have posted more of my and Dennis' photos, you will better be able to see the whole box.
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Just have to say Tracy, I think you are one of the most amazing people I have ever encountered. I dont post often but I do follow all the goings on. Im not sure this is posted in the right place but I will plead inexperience.
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Wish I could meet up with all of you but I work in Fort Garry and only have 1/2 hr for lunch...not enough time to get down town.
If you ever decide on an early evening meeting...around 5:00 pm, myself and a friend would defintely try to make it.
Enjoy Wednesday...hope you get to see Princess and/or Trey.
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Dont worry Sheltie Girl I post thing's in the wrong spot all the time, and never know how to put them in the right place ,so I am sure everyone is used to it . ::)
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Tracy you mentioned in your blog that one of the reasons for trying to introduce new chicks for P&T to foster was to reinforce their dominance of their territory. That other non-breeding birds wouldn't be tempted to challenge for the site. Are there specific reasons to believe that that may happen next year? Is there something particular you have seen or noticed that may suggest that? Or is that just supposition and a possibility based on other sites and general nature?
Just curiousity getting the better of me.
There is always a possibility of territorial disputes. This year Ivy turned up on the Radisson territory before Trey returned and that could have turned into a battle over the territory but it didn't. Radisson, the female in Edmonton now, is the third female vying for that territory. Last year, the 2006 female was defeated and she remained homeless and non-breeding that year. This year, the 2007 female return to the territory, then fought with the 2006 female and both were visibly injured and once again the 2007 female held the territory while the 2006 female once again remained homeless. Shortly thereafter Radisson arrived and yet another fight ensued, the result of which was that now Radisson holds the territory (and has one chick), the 2007 female has died of her injuries and the 2006 female continues to be homeless and non-breeding. Its a waste of potential - three breeding females, one dead, one territory-less and one who has produced only one chick, that will or will not survive its first year, the most dangerous year in any peregrine's life. So yes, it is a possibility that we could have similar battles over the Radisson site. Had Princess and Trey still had chicks, or had adopted the foster chicks, then they would still be aggressively defending the Radisson territory. As it is, they are present but very quiet. I haven't seen any defense of the territory, but I wouldn't expect to until next spring. We have all the cameras in place so we will have to see what we see next year.
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In closing I just want to say that although the season at the Radisson is offically closed I would venture to say I hope we here in the forum keep in touch throughout the remainder of our calendar year until next spring?
I have checked the stats and have no problem leaving the Forum open indefinitely, I'm not running out of resources and you all are having so much fun that I don't see the need for as long as you want to play here ....
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Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we get to still play in the sandbox!!!!!!!!
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No reason we can't Moonstar!
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I anticipate the "social zone" getting a lot of use as we keep in touch until next spring! Maybe we could suggest some topic areas? Like recipes, book recommendations, etc?
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Eagle, we still have the Radisson baby to enjoy and Australia's peregrine season is going to get started in the next few weeks...it's almost spring for them so their cycle is opposite to ours and will run until November I believe. Break for Xmas and then Spring will come again and hopefully P&T will come back. There is a good cam down there I can refer but will do so once the pain of this loss has eased for all.
Tracy, in recounting the battles for territory..are alot more of the young ones coming back home once they reach maturity and hence the sudden popularity of sites? Or is that there are too few options available for them? I agree with you, it's sad that we had 3 opportunities for breeding lost with 3 moms, even more so as one died :( Given we're not out of the woods yet for having a healthy population, it would have been nice to have a place to call home for all of them. Is there anything we can do to help that situation?
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Yeah SBG was telling me about the webcams from the land down under, certainly would be grateful for the links to that too, like I need another webcam to watch like I need another hole in my head ::)
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Good Day, All...
I read the ending to the adventure earlier this morning. I cannot describe the sadness I was feeling. Not sadness for the human side, but sadness for the two little chicks. They weren't going to get the opportunity of being raised by Trey and Princess as everyone had hoped. (Tracy et al, in particular).
I am glad that they are back safe and sound in Edmonton, and I do hope their little lives progress as best can be.
So many of you have said the things that I want to say, that I won't repeat them. It seems we all feel very much the same about these wonderful creatures. It does a body good, doesn't it?
Eagle63, that was very brave of you to share your thoughts with us. It reinforces the value of the human spirit while providing encouragement that there are a lot of very wonderful and kind people in the world. We seem to always hear about the not so wonderful ones...
The only thing left to say at this particular moment in time for me, is to thank whole-heartedly, everyone involved in this venture - be it by Tracy and her "crew", CBC, The Radisson, and all you folks on this blog. Bravo!
I truly have enjoyed the 'roller-coaster' that we have shared. The happy times mixed in with the sad - which is what real life is all about. The comaraderie that has formed, is something that all of you will hopefully treasure for a long time to come...
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Well, now that the "bird" is outta the bag, so to speak...here are the links:
Alcoa: http://www.alcoa.com/australia/en/info_page/falcon_webcam.asp
Frodocam: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/extras/frodocam/default.htm
Book mark them...as they are not live yet...
PS...Alcoa pair are Sheila and Havoc
Brisbane...Frieda and Frodo
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Sorry SGB
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Well that is a good thing as I have been known to get lost just standing still. I will eventually figure my way around I hope!
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Sorry SGB
There is no need to apologize... :) :)..Carly mentioned it first..so I just had to jump on the opening.. ;)..I should probably apologize to Tracy for this Off topic post... :-X ;D
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Thanks for the links, SGB! :) I've bookmarked them and look forward to when they are up and running.
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Sorry SGB, didn't mean to steal your thunder, as always I didn't see your post about it, (am always a day late and a dollar short it seems, story of my life) was just trying to cheer people up a bit and give them something to look forward to.
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Sorry SGB, didn't mean to steal your thunder, as always I didn't see your post about it, (am always a day late and a dollar short it seems, story of my life) was just trying to cheer people up a bit and give them something to look forward to.
:) :) :)..believe you me, you didn't steal my thunder...I hadn't posted about it...its just funny that you mentioned the Aussies....I had just pm'ed Eagle about them...so since you brought it up...I took the opportunity to post the links...hope that was ok...I probably stole your thunder... ;D ;D..They really are fun to watch...the cams aren't streaming...(I doubt if all our begging from last year resulted in an upgrade) but that's ok..we fell in love with them anyway...
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... like I need another webcam to watch like I need another hole in my head ::)
ROTFLOL Eagle - Ditto to that!!! ;D - but we'll do it anyway won't we!!! :P
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You would think Aussies would have streaming given they love trying to be #1 at the Olympics lmao
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... like I need another webcam to watch like I need another hole in my head ::)
ROTFLOL Eagle - Ditto to that!!! ;D - but we'll do it anyway won't we!!! :P
You got that right Ballywing lol
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heh..ok..whew, I'm just a mind reader then and I'm glad you posted them for everyone to share! I originally found them during my hunt for more information about peregrines and stumbled upon the Frodo Cam first and of course being in the northern hemisphere - it never even dawned on me that we could have peregrines year round ;D It really is a global village isn't it?!!
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THANKS DENNIS - FOR THE TERRIFIC 2008 PICS!!!!! 8)
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Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from me, too. Now, hand me that pail, eagle! (You notice, I don't ask for the shovel! lol)
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It's in the closet, right beside the hearing aids, and leather thongs.
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rotflmao Liz, *handing you the pail* ty so much for the great laugh I needed that. I want to take the opportunity to thank everyone for their kind responses to my earlier post. When I wrote it I had no idea the kind of impact it would have and I am equally touched by all the kind words you've extended. Thank-you.
rotflmao lol hahahahahah Loriann, you get a special thanks too for making me laugh even harder just now!!!! rotflmao
PS. yeah that's where I got the pail from in the back of the hearing aid, leather headbanging closet lmao
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That's right! My original thought was for after work. We can do both!! :D
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For sure I'm in - Radisson Lobby Wed at 12:30pm it is!!! ;D
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I feel so left out,
I think I'll go pout
in Ontario am I,
and cannot fly,
have fun for me
and I hope that you see,
Princess and Trey,
on your meeting day.
:P
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Ditto Loriann, I was thinking earlier how I wish I was in the Peg on wednesday to join in on the get together.
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I anticipate the "social zone" getting a lot of use as we keep in touch until next spring! Maybe we could suggest some topic areas? Like recipes, book recommendations, etc?
Absolutely, I've started a thread for ideas in the Social Zone ....
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I hope Larry and Dennis come too! And I don't have a digital camera, so I hope someone thinks of that so we can post a photo or two of the "Peregrine Phanatics - Winnipeg Chapter".
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Hopefully more will come out too! ;D - I know there's more Wpg-ers out there. All the rest of you 'not' Wpg-ers - will definitely be there in spirit! :D
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Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from me, too. Now, hand me that pail, eagle! (You notice, I don't ask for the shovel! lol)
...Huh.. ??? ???
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Eagle, we still have the Radisson baby to enjoy and Australia's peregrine season is going to get started in the next few weeks...it's almost spring for them so their cycle is opposite to ours and will run until November I believe. Break for Xmas and then Spring will come again and hopefully P&T will come back. There is a good cam down there I can refer but will do so once the pain of this loss has eased for all.
I will be post a link to the FrodoCam in our peregrine cam section Carly, but if there are other ones, please send me a pm and I'll set it up. And I'm going to take a look at the Forum's current design to see if I can improve some of our topic areas - particularly the webcam areas so its easier for you all to post and keep track of your favs.
Tracy, in recounting the battles for territory..are alot more of the young ones coming back home once they reach maturity and hence the sudden popularity of sites? Or is that there are too few options available for them? I agree with you, it's sad that we had 3 opportunities for breeding lost with 3 moms, even more so as one died :( Given we're not out of the woods yet for having a healthy population, it would have been nice to have a place to call home for all of them. Is there anything we can do to help that situation?
Generally territorial disputes are not between family members, offspring disperse from the natal site at fledging and while some will return, most of the records I have seen of territorial battles/deaths have been between stranger birds. But it has been a while since I looked at the band records in the US Midwest so will take another look to see if that has changed any in the last few years. As to doing something, not much one can do, the peregrines will nest where they want to and mostly recovery projects (like ours) have or will provide nestboxes if birds start to hang around in an area. And there are always territories that are preferred and that has more to do with the building/tower/bridge's location and/or architecture. The Radisson is the tallest building in downtown Winnipeg but it does have ledges for the birds to sit on and that is very (very) important. We have provided a nestbox which has given the birds a second location (the nestledge being the other) to nest.
If you want to help, make sure your local peregrine project (if there is one) has your name if you want to volunteer - and remember that every project will have different volunteer needs and they can vary from year to year, month to month and day to day. If you don't have a peregrine project, there are lots of other species-at-risk projects (unfortunately) and volunteers are always needed. Keep in mind that what helps one species in an area, helps them all. So helping a plant species-at-risk will help the peregrines down the line ...
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I anticipate the "social zone" getting a lot of use as we keep in touch until next spring! Maybe we could suggest some topic areas? Like recipes, book recommendations, etc?
Absolutely, I've started a thread for ideas in the Social Zone ....
I'd wager Tracy has some ideas for recipes that include japanese quail, and how to carve them up.. mm mm mmmmmm
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Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee from me, too. Now, hand me that pail, eagle! (You notice, I don't ask for the shovel! lol)
...Huh.. ??? ???
I believe the shovel belongs to Tracy. Not about to battle her for that territory! LOL. ;D ;D
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Yeah that's TPC's territory that you don't wanna go near.
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I'd wager Tracy has some ideas for recipes that include japanese quail, and how to carve them up.. mm mm mmmmmm
ROTFL -- no doubt!
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Yeah that's TPC's territory that you don't wanna go near.
well there's an idea for a new thread...
naked sand box wrestling... shovels optional.
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ROTFLMFAO hahahahahahahaha
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And there are always territories that are preferred and that has more to do with the building/tower/bridge's location and/or architecture. The Radisson is the tallest building in downtown Winnipeg but it does have ledges for the birds to sit on and that is very (very) important.
Another good point I hadn't thought of (and oh, there are so many!). We have four other tall bldgs here (and I had thought "there's room for all" when I was reading Carly's Q), but none of them have the architecture of the Radisson, with it's fake roof and ledges for access by humans and placement of nestboxes. All the rest seem to one have flat roof where there are people working on communication towers, there are the window-cleaner anchors, the tops of elevator shafts, exhaust fans, etc. The false roof at the Radisson gives them the protection they need from human interference.
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This is probably the wrong place to post this, but I just noticed the changes on the main page...I'm liking it!!! Great job, Tracy... :)
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SGB -- "other Peregrine stuff", projects/cams
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I am back and just got caught up on reading. I will keep posting the edmonton site and you will love the Aussie sites. we have a lot of fun there.
skygirl blue and I spent a lot of time at Alcoa last year(pink nestbox). I was up quite late and felt like a zombie most days because of time change.I also was following Brisbane .
Anyhow, I am glad Tracy posted about battles in Edmonton . Last year at the end of the season my favorite falcon at Toronto Sherraton lost her nest to a young female Rhea Mea from Rochester . we do not know if she survived.this is Rhea Meas first season . the only consolation after many tears was that I saw Rhea Mea hatch and grow and fledge on
the Rochester site
at my site this year I was a wreck. the transmitter female who lost the site last year is my girl She got me started watching web cams back in 2005.
I know where she is roosting and I go and visit her. she may have a mate , we are not sure. but we do see a male hanging around sometimes.
When transmitter girl came back this year I was right at the computer and I freaked. A fight is not easy to witness.
Such mixed emotions as I grew to love the female of 2007. she was such a good mom. and then after 2 weeks of fledge the young miss hit a window. Now I was a real mess.
that both females were O.K> this year was a miracle. I phoned the biologist immediately and they went and checked things out. so 2 days later when Radisson came into the territory, I was a wreck again. I felt that the 2007 was heavy with eggs and she had just defended 2 days earlier and did not stand a chance.
When this happens your heart just sinks. but then you have to accept it and go on. the birds do. I just pray that transmitter girl does not try again next year.
sorry for going on but these things do happen. I just hope the male is never challenged as he is so good.
will be checking in and out and look forward to getting to know some of you better
thanks Lori for the wonderful pictures
And eagle 63, people that belong to cams have big hearts and are very understanding. I have found that out in the years I have been watching :) :)
Now I cannot get those pictures of Dennis's . any ideas anyone
I will be quiet now
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You are welcome,, i'll keep sending them as long as the birds hang around..
I think that one chick has a BIG ego, he sits still and looks regal for the camera.. HAM !
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And there are always territories that are preferred and that has more to do with the building/tower/bridge's location and/or architecture. The Radisson is the tallest building in downtown Winnipeg but it does have ledges for the birds to sit on and that is very (very) important.
Another good point I hadn't thought of (and oh, there are so many!). We have four other tall bldgs here (and I had thought "there's room for all" when I was reading Carly's Q), but none of them have the architecture of the Radisson, with it's fake roof and ledges for access by humans and placement of nestboxes. All the rest seem to one have flat roof where there are people working on communication towers, there are the window-cleaner anchors, the tops of elevator shafts, exhaust fans, etc. The false roof at the Radisson gives them the protection they need from human interference.
And the buildings have to be far away from each other as peregrine territories are quite large. We have three at the moment in Winnipeg and could probably get a fourth in if we/they could find a suitable building. And the buildings have to be a certain height in relation to surround buildings, has to be near water, has to be near an evironment with a steady food source, etc, etc, etc. So I'm afraid its not just a question of tall buildings ...
Have you all seen a trend when it comes to peregrines? Nothing is simple or straightforward!
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Wow Bev, I never realized the details of what went on there although I knew there had been battles over the nest. :-\ - Knowing now that you'd seen a fight, and were very invested in these birds, as we were/are in P&T's family, puts a new light on the Alberta nest for me. -It also hits home how much upset we're going to have to be willing to take, if we want to continue following the lives of Peregrines. :'( - We can't have the joys without the sorrows, that's just 'RL'. - But I think most of us are willing to live with that!! :)
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...just posted a few new photos of foster chicks in the Peregrine 2008 gallery.
Some photos from the Brandon Banding that are in the Recent Photos gallery. More photos on the Brandon birds soon ( right Tracy...lol )
Sorry guy's it's an inside joke thing.
Fell free to browse other galleries as well.
www.pbase.com/photosbydennis
Cheers !
Dennis
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Beautiful up close and personal shots of the foster chicks. Very impressive Dennis. Certainly had Princess curious but not enough to take on the role again.
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Same boat as you Moonstar. I only get 1/2 hour for lunch too and am in SE Winnipeg. Hopefully another time. Everybody that goes I hope you have a great time! Please don't forget the camera!!
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bev, what does "transmitter" mean?
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Thanks for the new photos, Dennis. I didn't realize how big they actually are, until the ones of TPC holding them. Wow!
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Tracy, you mentioned that there are three territories in Winnipeg. One is obviously the Radisson, downtown, the second is West Winnipeg around Ness (if I'm remembering the posts correctly). I don't recall hearing about the third area. Is it top secret or can you let us know in which area of the city it is? Is there anything we can do to help make an area more desirable for the peregrine, assuming there is a building that would possibly fit the requirements?
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SGB -- "other Peregrine stuff", projects/cams
Thanks... :-[
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those photo's are excellent Dennis. The chicks are too cute but the shots of P & T are outstanding. Man, they have to be the most impressive birds in flight and a wonderful expression on their faces. All of which you captured beautifully.
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I anticipate the "social zone" getting a lot of use as we keep in touch until next spring! Maybe we could suggest some topic areas?
Yeah, like a lonely hearts area too !!!! (SWM Account, seeks girl with adding machine.......Must enjoy cameras)
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ROTFL, E-S! ;D "Concept of GAAP required." !
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omg rotflmao Eye Spy, would definately give a whole new meaning to your nickname lmao
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those photo's are excellent Dennis. The chicks are too cute but the shots of P & T are outstanding. Man, they have to be the most impressive birds in flight and a wonderful expression on their faces. All of which you captured beautifully.
Ditto!!! Gorgeous!!!
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Can't be that hard Eye-Spy, I have adding machine, love cameras (taking pictures anyway, not having taken) and even know GAAP! Already have hubby though. Must be more of us out there!
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Dennis...
The pictures of the chicks are fantastic! When would we ever have had the chance to see them feed from such a close range. Talk about up close and personal!
I know they don't make up for all that has happened this year, but they do provide us with a view that we may not have seen before. And how often do we get to see the underbelly of a peregrine? Not to mention the look on their face as they check you out. :)
Thank you for being a part of this and for sharing what you have captured in photographs with us - be it peregrines, or other marvels of nature.
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Can't be that hard Eye-Spy, I have adding machine, love cameras (taking pictures anyway, not having taken) and even know GAAP! Already have hubby though. Must be more of us out there!
What is it about adding machines, cameras & peregrines?? How many of us are (closet?) accountants?? Yikes.......
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Whoo hooo !!!! I have a closet!!!!
Must be because we stare at the computer all day long anyway and everybody figures that well just break into a monotonous tirade about how to do taxes and whatnot.. hehhheehe. ;D ;D besides you have to have something to take your mind off of it when you're looking for those darn pennies that are ALWAYS missing!!
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Congratulations Winnipeg gal for finally finding your closet lmao
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hahaha it's a good one too!! Nobody'll go near one labelled accounting!!
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you got that right, I am staying in my hearing aid/birding closet lmao
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Guess that means I finally found my closet, too! There's four of us in the accountants' closet (3 chicks and Eye-spy!) ?
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Lucky Larry!!
Welcome to the closet Liz!
Or should I say thank you for letting me in!
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It wasn't me that discovered it! I'm the last one in, I figure. May I? :D
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Great by me. Always glad for a little company hehehe :D
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could have "GAAP" on the door....generally adores all peregrines.....
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...just posted a few new photos of foster chicks in the Peregrine 2008 gallery.
Some photos from the Brandon Banding that are in the Recent Photos gallery. More photos on the Brandon birds soon ( right Tracy...lol )
Sorry guy's it's an inside joke thing.
Fell free to browse other galleries as well.
www.pbase.com/photosbydennis
Dennis lets me go through his photos to pick a few for the exclusive use of the Project. Unfortunately for Dennis, who really wants to post right away, I usually have a ton of stuff to do and don't get through them as quickly as I (and he) would like!!! And Dennis, I'm almost done with the all!!!! :D
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could have "GAAP" on the door....generally adores all peregrines.....
I quite like that one Pam!
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Liz, the female that lost her site last year has a transmitter on her back and they can track her. they track her migration route every year. we know where she migrates to and on the way back we know approx time of arrival in our area
We knew that the night before she hit the nest site she spent the night in red deer (i.5 hours away)
That is how I know where she is roosting now. We actually went where she went last year and she was there but the tracker told the biologists where she was before that.
I still cannot get the pictures to enlarge, or do they??
am I allowed to post a picture of her here so you can see the transmitter???
I have shed many tears since watching cams and my husband finally told me that if I was going to continue watching I had to accept the bad with the good. It is hard sometimes but when i see one just born I am reminded what it is all about :) :)
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Tracy, you mentioned that there are three territories in Winnipeg. One is obviously the Radisson, downtown, the second is West Winnipeg around Ness (if I'm remembering the posts correctly). I don't recall hearing about the third area. Is it top secret or can you let us know in which area of the city it is? Is there anything we can do to help make an area more desirable for the peregrine, assuming there is a building that would possibly fit the requirements?
Third territory is centred on the University of Manitoba Fort Garry Campus. We have had other nests in the downtown area, but they were abandonned after a single year because of the stress of pairs nesting too close to one another. We have not had any recorded territorial battles or combat deaths to date (and knock on wood we never will!) and the birds that nested close to the Radisson were offspring/cousins. In all cases, the nestsite were very hidden from the Radisson pair's view and to date, none of those chicks or the adults have been reported elsewhere.
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I kinda thought that's what the transmitter was about, have read about how they are doing that to track the migrations of birds. Some species travel amazingly long distances one way to get to their wintering grounds. Never mind turn around 8 months or so later and do it all over again and fly north.
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Liz, the female that lost her site last year has a transmitter on her back and they can track her. they track her migration route every year. we know where she migrates to and on the way back we know approx time of arrival in our area
We knew that the night before she hit the nest site she spent the night in red deer (i.5 hours away)
That is how I know where she is roosting now. We actually went where she went last year and she was there but the tracker told the biologists where she was before that.
I still cannot get the pictures to enlarge, or do they??
am I allowed to post a picture of her here so you can see the transmitter???
the photo size is limited, but I have a photo of a bird with a transmitter at work and I'll post it in the photo gallery tomorrow and post a link in the Edmonton birds thread ...
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Third territory is centred on the University of Manitoba Fort Garry Campus.
That's right close to you isn't it! Nice! When was the last time that territory had any activity? And how large is a territory (approximately)?
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Aren't territories roughly 7kms in size? so to speak? I think I just read that today in the Hinterland Who's Who fact sheet about Peregrines, I posted it in a nother thread and I already forget which thread I posted it in lol
Oh yeah it's in the Night Hunting Thread
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Thanks Eagle!
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Dennis lets me go through his photos to pick a few for the exclusive use of the Project. Unfortunately for Dennis, who really wants to post right away, I usually have a ton of stuff to do and don't get through them as quickly as I (and he) would like!!! And Dennis, I'm almost done with the all!!!! :D
:) ;) :D ;D
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Guess that means I finally found my closet, too! There's four of us in the accountants' closet (3 chicks and Eye-spy!) ?
I guess that could be fun. Better than saying I want to come out of the closet, I guess...... :o
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Third territory is centred on the University of Manitoba Fort Garry Campus.
That's right close to you isn't it! Nice! When was the last time that territory had any activity? And how large is a territory (approximately)?
Last time we had a breeding pair on this site was 1994, the last year T-Rex nested there with Burnsie before he ditched the wife and went back to his girlfriend Madame on the Radisson.
Aren't territories roughly 7kms in size? so to speak? I think I just read that today in the Hinterland Who's Who fact sheet about Peregrines, I posted it in a nother thread and I already forget which thread I posted it in lol
Regardless of what HWW says, peregrine territories are larger and smaller than 7 km. There is no hard/fast rule on size as it depends on what is in the territory. For urban peregrines it looks like their territories can be larger as they don't include things like parking lots in their calculations, or smaller because they have much more food and more a more constant source of food than in most non-urban territories. On the other hand, the birds in Rankin Inlet nest closer together than anywhere else in the world, it is believe because of the abundance of suitable nest locations and the hyper abundance of food.
In Winnipeg, the Radisson territory seems to run down to about McGillivray and north to the perimeter or beyond. The west Winnipeg territory begins about Polo Park and runs to, you guessed it, the perimeter. The U of M territory runs south from McGillivray to over the open fields south of the City ...
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There are never any hard and fast rules when it comes to Mother Nature lol that much I've learned just in the last few months alone never mind all the years of birdwatching I've done.
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could have "GAAP" on the door....generally adores all peregrines.....
I quite like that one Pam!
That's fabulous! ROTFLMAO!!
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Liz, the female that lost her site last year has a transmitter on her back and they can track her. they track her migration route every year.
I didn't realize they did that. Thanks!
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Guess that means I finally found my closet, too! There's four of us in the accountants' closet (3 chicks and Eye-spy!) ?
I guess that could be fun. Better than saying I want to come out of the closet, I guess...... :o
LOL. Hope you can handle being closeted with us! ;D
End of the day for me, all. Going to crawl into bed to watch EastEnders, then drift off to sleep. Or, .... lie awake until the fledging comes back to roost. Goodnight!
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Ok someone please tell me what ROTFLMAO means I have seen it many time and did not want to ask but I ??? can not stand it any longer pleeeeeeeeeeeeease tell
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rotflmao is rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off ;D
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ROTFLMAO = Rolling On The Floor Laughing My A** Off
LOL = Laugh Out Loud
LMAO = Laughing My A** Off
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You beat me to it Eagle!
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thank you
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hehehehehe winnipeg gal
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Okay folks, we are getting a wee ::) bit off topic here ....
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Sorry TPC :-[
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Our transmitter girl migrates to south America every year. we have 3 more transmitter falcons in Alberta
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Tracy you truly did a great job and I am sad to see what happen but Princess and Trey were not ready for the chicks after all they had been through. thank you for trying........
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Hard to believe it's been a month wow.
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Mother nature must feel bad or else all of our sombre moods have collided above Winnipeg to mourn TLC. We have grey dreary day with light rain today.
So much has happened over the past month... so many new people we've all *met*. It's been a pleasure to have this forum to hide out in.
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Checking out. The Fledgling is home, and he's in the same mood Lightning is in when her parent fly onto the ledge. Think I'll run away, like they do! G'night, all!
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Night Liz
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So hard to believe it has been a month since that horrible day. If that day had not happened we would be watching our web cam and stressing over our chicks fledging right now. They were a couple days younger than the Elk River Peregrines...I think.
I sure hope Princess and Trey return next year...pick the nest box and have 4 chicks.
Well I am off to bed now. 5:30 comes very quickly.
Night all...
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Checking out. The Fledgling is home, and he's in the same mood Lightning is in when her parent fly onto the ledge. Think I'll run away, like they do! G'night, all!
LOL Liz, that paints a pretty clear picture - Egads!!! :o
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Greetings to all. This is my first post although I've been here along with you all since spring 2007. I am wondering if there have been any sightings of Princess and Trey lately? Anybody know anything about that? Mother hen? (hope I know where to look for the answer to this, feeling a little lost).
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did not know thee was a social zone or poetryor anything like that. sorry. but I will vote
Bev.
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So we're on for tomorrow at 12:30 Radisson Lobby then? Anyone who can - be there or be square! :P :P
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See you there!
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Be there or be talked about! See ya kids! SO excited. Digital camera, somone...
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Maybe 'photosbydennis' will come and bring his super duper fancy pro-cam. ;D
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Dennis may be busy with other nests. But I hope Larry will join us. :)
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Our newest member 'Closetchick' will be there too. ;D
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Are there really only three posts today, or is it part of my loading problem?
Either way, going to bed. I'm am too tired to wait for everything to load. Maybe tomorrow everything will be better and I can catch up on the postings.
G'night, all! :)
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I had a feeling "closetchick" was the one you mentioned trying to get to join the form. Woooooohooooo
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;D LOL - No posts yet - but 1 step at a time :P
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I have been trying for two days to get this far! Something was wrong somewhere and I could not even open up the Radisson or anything for that matter. I just saw Princess sitting on the letter a looking aroung waiting for BRUNCH. So if it is still 12:30 today I will be there,with my spyglasses. don't want to miss anything.....I am so nosey!
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sooooo, for those of us not in Winnipeg, how did the big-meet-up go? See anything interesting?
I know, it's only noon there now, but I figure folks are on their way or something so this will be waiting when they get back. Besides, it's too quiet here. ;)
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I don't think it will be quiet for long given that we seem to be able to get back on here in more reasonable time :) Yipeeeeeeeeee I used the time I couldn't get on here to take a few pictures this morning. Hope the gathering produces some pictures lol
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We are meeting at 12:30 (20 minutes from now) but I'm sure y'all will hear as soon as everyone gets back to a computer :D
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Okay, no one from the block party is posting so today was obviously horrible :'(
*plops down in the sandbox and dejectedly pats sand with shovel*
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And I even asked! *points furiously to the topic "how was the visit"* >:(
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aaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww *comes and sits by TPC* Maybe they can't post, too busy at their jobs, or did they play hooky and not go back to work. I wish I coulda been there.
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If I coulda made it I woulda!!! What happened to everybody? Did you leave them there drinking wine and other assorted "drinks"? I'm sure they were a rowdy bunch begging to go get a close up of the nestbox ;D ;D
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Yeah since none of them wanna post, tell us about it TPC?
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THere's Ballywing, are you gonna tell us how the get together at the Radisson went?
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Sure am Eagle!!!! - LOL - 'Horrible' ??? - No Way TPC - :o!!!! ..We're just busily catching up on all the work we didn't get done due to standing on street corners looking up & listening to your very informative stories for longer than our lunch hours are supposed to be!! - ;D - Was well worth it though, it was a Super Duper meeting!!! - good turnout too! - There was BARB & MARG(?) sorry if that's not right... & SAMI and LIZ and PAM and MOTHER HEN and CLOSETCHICK and BALLYWING AND of course TPC!! ...AND - we got to meet 'PhotosByDennis too'! ;D - He even took pics of us. - -My only complaint is that P&T were 'No Shows' - :(.
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Sounds like it was a great time !!!!!
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oops, I posted in the Radisson thread under the 'Ballywing, Mother Hen, let's meet etc .....as I didn't know there was a 'How was the visit' thread! :P
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My only complaint is that P&T were 'No Shows' - :(.
I thought I saw one of the birds on the east-side Radisson sign as we were heading back to our cars, Pam went up to her office and checked and there was one, Princess she thinks!! So only Pam and Team Kensington got to see the birds today :P
I'm going to see about getting the spy-cam back online, in part so I can spy on the birds again, in part so CBC and Shaw can have their traffic cam back ... we'll be able to see how long they continue to hang around this year ... and I'll be able to snap photos of them for you all !
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Argh, :-\ ...they always play Hide & Seek on me - one day I'll actually get to see them for real!! ;D - Meantime Tracy, if you put some of Dennis' great photos in the online store, I'll bet they would be a hit! :P
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hey thanks, I been waiting to hear. never go there anymore, as I am not from the "peg" lol :(
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in part so CBC and Shaw can have their traffic cam back ...
I don't know what the traffic cam means?
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It was really great seeing where the nest ledge and box were sited - in the few times that I drive downtown, I've had to watch traffic instead of looking up (unlike this morning while driving down a country road I was going full speed ahead while looking waaay up at a pair of pelicans - good thing I had the road to myself). Thanks for the info Tracy. It was enjoyable meeting you and some of the phanatics. And you didn't hear from me earlier cause I had to race out and cut the grass!
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Sounds like you all had a nice visit.
If you ever decide to do this again after work I will make it for that get together.
Maybe next time we will get to see P & T.
Thanks for the update of the visit.
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CTV news contacted me yesterday for an update on the peregrines and whether or not they will renest. I told them no, it was too late barring a freak event. Also gave them an update on the other 4 Manitoba females and the Brandon Birds. Also told them about the meeting of the "Phanatics on Portage" today - so you could all have ended upon the news tonight!! 'Fraid that didn't happen, but they are running a short piece with photos from Black Friday.
It will be on TV at 6:10 pm (approximately) on CTV Local News @ 6. It is also already posted on their website at CTV Winnipeg (http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20080607/wpg_falcon_dead_080709/20080709/?hub=WinnipegHome). I assume the online piece is the same as the tv piece will be ...
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in part so CBC and Shaw can have their traffic cam back ...
I don't know what the traffic cam means?
TV and radio stations use webcams located all around the City to monitor the traffic flow during the rush hours - morning and evening. They can manipulate the camera to look at different locations. During the peregrine season, I use the camera as well to spy on the peregrines at the Radisson. Sometimes we are each tugging on the camera - they want to see the Provencher Bridge, I want to see the letter R on the Radisson sign!!
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Actually, that was brought up as we stood on the street corner - a few were already talking about a get-together for the 'After 5' crowd!! :P
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Great!!!! ;D- too bad we won't be famous, but I'll make sure to watch anyway! :P
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Yeah I will be able to watch because I have time shifting ;D
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Actually, that was brought up as we stood on the street corner - a few were already talking about a get-together for the 'After 5' crowd!! :P
Great. I look forward to it.
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Definitely will be watching.
I usually flip between CBC and CTV news every evening. Now I know to keep it on CTV around 6:10
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Sometimes we are each tugging on the camera - they want to see the Provencher Bridge, I want to see the letter R on the Radisson sign!!
LOL!!!!!!! Of all the nerve them wanting to see the traffic, where are their priorities?? :P - I vote for the letter R also. 8)
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TV and radio stations use webcams located all around the City to monitor the traffic flow during the rush hours - morning and evening. They can manipulate the camera to look at different locations. During the peregrine season, I use the camera as well to spy on the peregrines at the Radisson. Sometimes we are each tugging on the camera - they want to see the Provencher Bridge, I want to see the letter R on the Radisson sign!!
That is very interesting. Do you personally manipulate the camera online, or do you have to put in a request?
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So glad you all had a good time and got to meet each other :D P&T were probably hiding and pointing at you going..look it's them - the humans, the ones that spy on us..let's play hide and seek with them!
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It was lots of fun, and very informative. I'm sure there were more than a few folks wondering why we were having this 'outside forum' going on in front of Mountain Equipment Coop & especially why it warranted our very own photographer!
I had another look at the sign back at work and am really not sure if it was Princess or Trey - Tracy did tell us which side of the sign they each prefer - guess I'm not a very good student! Definitely a peregrine, and on the right-hand side under the "N" - so, Tracy, what do you think??
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Maybe 'photosbydennis' will come and bring his super duper fancy pro-cam. ;D
Heck, Dennis, I forgot to ask you for a look at your camera!
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It was great! And no, we didn't eat or drink. lol
We were outside the whole time, in front of Mountain Equipment, as Pam said. Occasionally (sp?) in the way of people getting their bikes off the racks, but most of them just went around us (5-point turns!) and left us alone. And Dennis was secretly standing halfway down the block taking photos of us. And, we didn't see P&T, but we sure learned a lot in that 45 mins we spent together -- thanks, TPC!!! I assume the no-posting was as speculated -- we all had to go back to work and make up for our extra long lunch-time. But it was well worth it!!!
So yes, we need to organize a get-together for those who don't work downtown and want to come for an after-5 visit. I can't do it the rest of this week (Cirque de Soleil tomorrow!!), but next week is totally open; pretty much anytime until Aug. 8. Not that I have to be there... lol -- you can do this w/o me. But I'm happy to help organize it. And I know any of the rest of us who don't have to leave the area after work (rides home) will be happy to meet you! What works for the non-downtown group? Tracy suggested meeting for dinner.
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We non-Winnipegers feel left out. :'(
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We non-Winnipegers feel left out. :'(
Yeah.....maybe when I win the lottery I'll buy a motor home and travel across the country in search of new birds I've never seen before and make a stop in the Peg so TPC can show my birding spots lol :D
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Check the 'Ballywing, Mother Hen, let's meet etc' thread.
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Can you pick me up along the way? ;D
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Sure, why not, the more the merrier besides I need someone who can drive something bigger than a car lmao but with the lottery win I could probably afford to hire a chauffeur lol
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Crumbs! Just reading this now. I always check CTV (because they start their news 30 secs earlier) to see if they have any main stories they're reporting on that I haven't heard on CBC, but then go to CBC news if they don't and stay there. Missed it!
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I saw it! - was quite good, they talked about the attempted rescue, the fact that P&T will not re-nest, the foster hopefuls, the Brandon chicks.....it was just a few minutes long - I wanted them to go on & on & on.... ;D
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That's tv for sound bites. I saw it too and it was short in my opinion.
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Sorry kids! *doing the Pf putting my head down, tucking in the wings* Y'all just live in the wrong place!
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Living in Edmonton, I had to catch the newscast on the CBC website. Yes, it was a bit shorter than what everyone here would have preferred. The good news is that the broadcast provided another option for having more people become aware of just how rare these precious birds are, and how fragile their existence is.
I did not know that the babies were still alive when they were rescued and that they died very soon after the rescue. :'(
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Oh I don't know about livin in the "wrong place", is correct. maybe being the wrong place at the wrong time? I could take that with a lick of salt and a shot. lol
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LOL. I meant the wrong place for what we had going on today! Lots of Pf info from TPC. Sorry to those who couldn't make it.
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what s pf?
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PF - Peregrine Falcon
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Not sure that they were all alive. We had some differing information, depending on what site we read. Perhaps it was too late before Kyle got there. TPC can clarify that.
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Keep us posted as to when the next "meeting" will be taking place... I'll be an after 5er!
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If I started a thread for quebecers... Everybody would feel left out.
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rotflmao
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...was great to meet everyone...I do much better when the subjects have the wings a flappin...or soaring and on the move.Now that would have been a shot to capture Pergrine Folk standing in down town Winnipeg at a street corner, flapping the arms...lol
Cheers !
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lol Dennis, I hear ya, do so much better taking shots of birds and nature. I suspect you are like me, you prefer to be behind the camera rather than in front of it thus there are hardly any photos of you anywhere lol
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...to put a face to the name and a name to the face...Tracy has taken a couple photo that are in the Peregrine 2007 gallery. I would be the guy with the camera...
Cheers !
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...was great to meet everyone...I do much better when the subjects have the wings a flappin...or soaring and on the move.
Yeah, we were all standing there, not moving, totally captivated by TPC. Sorry, Dennis!
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Well Dennis, your peregrine photos are so awesome that my desktop wallpaper for my home computer is Trey and my work computer is Princess......just gorgeous!!! ;D
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Hey msdolittle, where were you today ???
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Can't find any photos with you in it Dennis, not on the gallery of photos.
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Can't find any photos with you in it Dennis, not on the gallery of photos.
...sorry my website http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/peregrines_2007
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Well Dennis, your peregrine photos are so awesome that my desktop wallpaper for my home computer is Trey and my work computer is Princess......just gorgeous!!! ;D
...thanks for the kind comment...
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Glad to hear you al had a good time ;D looking forward to seeing the pictures .
and Eagle when you win the lottery pop over to Vancouver Island and pick me up to ,I will being wine and binoculars lol ;)
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...was great to meet everyone...I do much better when the subjects have the wings a flappin...or soaring and on the move.
Yeah, we were all standing there, not moving, totally captivated by TPC. Sorry, Dennis!
...another day another photo...))
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Can't find any photos with you in it Dennis, not on the gallery of photos.
Dennis, eagle didn't ask "where" your photos are, she asked about a PHOTO OF YOU. If there's one in there, you need to give us some help about where to find it. :)
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ACK! - Just realized, Dennis took photos of US today, but he won't be in them!! - Drats... ::) - but if you click on his web page, there's a pic of him about 9 rows down......and a couple more much lower down the page too. 8)
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Thanks, ballywing!
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Can't find any photos with you in it Dennis, not on the gallery of photos.
Dennis, eagle didn't ask "where" your photos are, she asked about a PHOTO OF YOU. If there's one in there, you need to give us some help about where to find it. :)
...klick on this link http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/peregrines_2007
scroll down through photos and a couple of photos Tracy took last year are on this gallery...the guy with the camera.
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So there's nothing for today? Weird. Guess that's a transition for not having chicks to talk about.
But, I had to do it, just to have a place to say I'm going to bed -- G'night, all!
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Yeah cool pics, and how cool was it too hold a peregrine falcon chick?
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Yeah cool pics, and how cool was it too hold a peregrine falcon chick?
...one of the few time I get to be in on the fun...rather than just taking the photos of folks having fun.
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Well look at that we just helped Dennis hatch from his own little egg here on the forum. Congrats Dennis!
Oh I know what you mean on that one too Dennis. Half the time I am so caught up taking pictures I miss half of what's going on lol
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Goodnight, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite.
(Did you hear that one too, growing up?)
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well this eagle is off to bed to. Nite all.
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Hey, newest member 'Barb' - maybe from our Phanatics block party today? She wasn't online yet she said. Yay, another recruit!! 8)
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Hey, just don't think i have ever started a new thread for the Radisson Peregrines...... and I wanted to! so There. lol
I have one of Dennis's excellent pictures of Princess as my background wallpaper,,,,,, looking thru them agin ,, love those pics. I wake up now to princess starring me down in the eye, you do not dilly dally around with the evil eye of a peregrine starring you down first thing in the morning guys. I don't anyhow. lol. There eyes hold such depth and intelligence. Thats all I have to say to start the day Phanatics! Good morning and Good Day! ;) ;) :D
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Yea it was a good meeting. Got to find out where they usually hang out when downtown. I will have to look at different locations now. OH my poor neck!!!!! LOL Anyways Tracy is just amazing.Man does she know about Peregrines and other birds, as she noticed a group of Pelicans fly over.......It was pelicans wasn't it? However I had to get back to work so I left as we get only 1/2 hour lunch.I will keep a lookout for Trey and Princess at the Radisson. I like the interesting line of parentage on the other page. Tracy do you have this all written down or do you such a good memory you don't need to have this all written. Amazing and I hope they are around for ever.
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Sorry I didn't get to see the news last night as was not home. I don't think I could watch the resue again as too emontional.
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Hey msdolittle, where were you today ???
I'm sorry I didn't make it. Got caught up in work. Next time?
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well shoot thought this went in a "new" thread". darn it. lol.. oh well.
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That is very interesting. Do you personally manipulate the camera online, or do you have to put in a request?
I can manipulate the camera remotely from my computer over the internet. Actually, both the spy-cam and the camera we used to watch the nest ledge can be remotely operated. Had the chicks survived y'all would have had lots of movement by this time as the chicks would be moving around alot ... and Larry would have used the camera to track us while we banded the chicks. The cameras I can't manipulate are the ones at the nestbox, they are fixed in place. Because they are so close to the birds we didn't want them to be able to disturb the birds any so they make no noise and they don't move.
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It was lots of fun, and very informative. I'm sure there were more than a few folks wondering why we were having this 'outside forum' going on in front of Mountain Equipment Coop & especially why it warranted our very own photographer!
I had another look at the sign back at work and am really not sure if it was Princess or Trey - Tracy did tell us which side of the sign they each prefer - guess I'm not a very good student! Definitely a peregrine, and on the right-hand side under the "N" - so, Tracy, what do you think??
Probably Princess. Trey still prefers the ledge and the "R" end of the sign
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Yea it was a good meeting. Got to find out where they usually hang out when downtown. I will have to look at different locations now. OH my poor neck!!!!! LOL Anyways Tracy is just amazing.Man does she know about Peregrines and other birds, as she noticed a group of Pelicans fly over.......It was pelicans wasn't it? However I had to get back to work so I left as we get only 1/2 hour lunch.I will keep a lookout for Trey and Princess at the Radisson. I like the interesting line of parentage on the other page. Tracy do you have this all written down or do you such a good memory you don't need to have this all written. Amazing and I hope they are around for ever.
I bastardized my geneaology software to be able to track all the relationships of our birds ... actually, hope to be able to expand it to include all the birds we know about in North America ... a girl's got to have a hobby ;D after all!
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It was wonderful meeting IRL all the folks I have been "talking" and "listening" to here on the Forum. You were a great audience and I'm sorry :-[ I didn't let y'all get a meal or get back to work on time. You had such great questions! And we did miss you Mother Hen when you vanished! Sorry about the peregrines not putting in an appearance, not doing many of the things I've asked them to this year ...
As for an after-work get together, fine with me, most evenings are free with a little advance warning.
As an idea, I might be able to get the Hotel to put together a small box lunch-like meal for us and if they let us, we could sit out on the balcony at the back of the Hotel, if the birds turn up we could see them. If you all are interested, I could talk to the hotel and see if its possible and how much it would cost.
Or we could see about making a reservation at the restaurant that has the patio on the roof on the other side of the MTS Centre/City Place - 'fraid I don't know the name of it. Again, with good weather we could sit outside and keep an eye out.
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You have Pelicans in Manitoba? I'm envious now, I need to get out there some day!
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You have Pelicans in Manitoba? I'm envious now, I need to get out there some day!
We have pelicans where I live too - and blue herons and egrets. I love floating down the Yakima river - never know what I'll see aorund the bend! Haven't done that this year as the river was high and fast, but hopefully later this summer it will be safe and we will have time.
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:( Geez, I'm really feeling left out not being in Winterpeg. :) I'd love to come meet all you Phanatics and have a chance to get a glimpse of P&T.
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Hi deedream. If you go to the Radisson Peregrines board, or any other subject board, you will see above the listed subject threads the option for "new subject". Have fun!
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TPC will fix it!! ;D - Sounds like before long, Dennis' photos will be all over everyone's desktops! 8)
From The Peregrine Chick: all fixed ... :D
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Well today Jun 10/08 I have been lucky enough to see Princess this morning for quite some time and now Trey is sitting on the D facing south. Where were they yesterday when I was standing there looking up?? I think is is pretty funny when you lookup other people will look up as weel not knowing what they are looking up at.
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One of my neices works there part time(at the Peregrine Room) as a waitress as she is a student at the U of W. Her school posting as not sure what they call it is right next door in the attached building.She was taken up to the roof a couple of years ago to see things but no Peregrines at that point in time.Maybe Tracy or some one who works a the Radisson can take us up next time. Was it a pelican flock we saw??? I dont want to sound crazy!
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Watching the news or checking out the story on the CTV Website wasn't a requirement :) just letting y'all know in case you were interested. I missed the newscast, had an appointment so I'm glad someone saw it! I figured it would be short since it was over the phone, but it does sound like they covered most of the information I provided them with, which is great since I think they really only wanted to know if Trey & Princess were renesting ... Thanks CTV!!!
As for whether the chicks were alive when they were rescued, there may have been one that was alive when Kyle picked her/him up, but it was hard to say. The reason they died is because of the cold - they got too wet to keep warm, so when they got to us, they were pretty cool, one perhaps a little less cool than the others but we did try to revive them all, as you know already. That little tidbit they got from Kyle and he is the one who saw the first, so I feel no need, well actually, don't want to contradict him, he may be right and the chicks did die on the way down ...
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Would you all mind if I moved/renamed this topic to the July 9th entry - might make it easier for folks to find it and maybe encourage a few extra to come join us after work sometime ...
Let me know what you think ...
The Peregrine Chick
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Trey has been sitting on the D and has not moved.He is facing south.It is him or is it her,Princess?? To bad it was not yesterday and Trey could of let us know who it is? I still excited to see them aster all these years of watching them.
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Trey has been sitting on the D and has not moved.He is facing south.It is him or is it her,Princess?? To bad it was not yesterday and Trey could of let us know who it is? I still excited to see them aster all these years of watching them.
Check the size - he's smaller than her. Also, check how dark the head looks - his will be much darker than hers.
Now if you can see him Mother Hen, he's on the west side, looks like I'm going to have to check the nestbox and see if they have been attacking the chick-proof bars or if they have just been investigating the mess the chicks made when they were there.
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And if they've been attacking the bars what does that tell you Tracy?
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Sure - NOW they go to the nestbox!! ::) - last week would have been preferable!! - Oh well, they know what's best - and what we wanted wasn't best this time. :-\
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Grand idea!!! - Easier to find is always a good thing! :P (Or even the July 10th Phanatics thread??)
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Sounds good to me also!
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read the web version, and as short and to the point it is, it still made me well up with unshed tears all over again... :'(
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Hey, just don't think i have ever started a new thread for the Radisson Peregrines...... and I wanted to! so There. lol Good morning and Good Day! ;) ;) :D
Deedream, now it looks like I started this thread, but I think TPC just assigned it to me because I did the first post after midnight CDT. Tonight, as the clock begins to strike twelve, get your posting fingers ready. Oh.... that would be 2am for you, maybe you don't stay up that late every night!
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Done and locked!! :D
The Peregrine Chick
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Think happy thoughts Loriann, next year is a new year ... *hands Loriann a hankie*
Thinking of re-starting my count-down timer on August 1st, maybe September 1st, if that helps .... :D
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At first I thought I would try to keep track of everyone's timezone but gave that one up pretty quickly ... so now, by the date unless it really can't be moved ....
Just FYI ... 8)
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no BCbird I don't always stay up that late. :D But I am very much a night owl and have stayed up way late for 2 nights this week. It has been so hot, I can't sleep so stay up on the puter surfing around. lol. Hard to say if I will be up that late tonight. Never know. ;D
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Thinking of re-starting my count-down timer on August 1st, maybe September 1st, if that helps .... :D
How do you know the end date?
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Think happy thoughts Loriann, next year is a new year ... *hands Loriann a hankie*
Thinking of re-starting my count-down timer on August 1st, maybe September 1st, if that helps .... :D
Thanks for the hankie... :'( I needed one. I think its just the absolute feeling of helplessness that i felt that day, and not being in any position to help, and it all came back reading the article, and seeing the pictures.
heck, I get upset over roadkill.. :-\
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I am like you Loriann. I ger upset over roadkill also. I get so upset when an animal of any kind is hurt or mistreated or worse.
CTV story was good last night. I did start to watch the rescure video again but stopped. I just couldn't watch it right through.
I am so looking forward to next year. I hope they pick the nest box tho. But I guess that will be up to them.
Have a great evening everyone.
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Thinking of re-starting my count-down timer on August 1st, maybe September 1st, if that helps .... :D
How do you know the end date?
I make one up ;D
Actually, I know approximately when the birds will return, this year's timer was set for March 30th. Princess came back early and screwed up my "magic" but Trey, the sweetheart that he is, came back right on time. When Princess came back early I just went into the source code and reset the timer for when we thought the webcam would go live.
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I saw what looked to be a Peregrine fly over my car a few days ago when I was sitting at the lights on Logan just West of Main Street. It was in hot pursuit of something and was fairly low, only about 3 stories up. I'm sure Tracy could have identified "who" it was. It was a bit of a surprise to see it there after all the time spent standing on Portage Avenue staring straight up with binoculars....is this part of their range? I guess I could also be wrong and it was a Kistral. I saw it long enough to see the feather pattern and size... but I'm not an expert.
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Drat ! ! ! It sounds like I missed a great meeting yesterday. I know that I would have enjoyed Tracy's talk because I drive past the Radisson every two weeks and look up at the buildings at every stop light. I believe that I am looking at the right signs etc. but I'm one of those unfortunate people that are completely confused by the points of a compass. So, though I have found the nest ledge (or am I fooling myself?), I am not sure of the other places mentioned and would have loved the "tour". ???
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Started it because I'm still up. Plus, eagle says I have to catch up to her in postings! LOL I wonder if we'll have anything to add to this today?
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Hi all, I read the story on the website. Short and too the point. Oh, I could not watch that video again, it would be just too painful to watch again. CTV had the best footage however and it gave you a very clear picture of how bad the weather was!
Oh and road kill, well, I think we all agree, its upsetting to see. Hmm, was going to say more, but realized this is not the right thread to ramble. lol :D
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I must be psychic! I somehow just "knew" that Liz would start a new thread today! ;D I been up since 6:30 a.m. 4;30 Manitoba time! I am trying to get to 700 posts this morning. LOL.. Just joking. 8) 8) 8)
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Well I am curious if TPC discovered yet if Trey and Princess had been digging at the bars on the chicks nest box? She mentioned she would be checking that out. I also wonder what that means if they have been. Territorial thing? Or they are trying to get inside the box?
I seen the pictures but I don't think I really understood how that box worked. The chicks were inside the box. The adults were supposed to come and feed them through the bars? The bars were so the chicks would not fall out? What about to protect them from a predator as well, while they were unattended and not adopted by the adults? Ithink you already said that it was not to protect them from the adults as they would not have been harmed by any peregrines?
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Some of you people sure do stay up late!!!! I wake up around 10:00 even though I am at work for 7:00 AM.......What I shock to wake up here......... I got a good look at each one separtely yesterday for a good part of the day.Where are those pictures of the nest for the bars.They sure did sit calmly I wonder what they are thinking?? Are they sleeping?
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I believe Mother Hen there is a picture in Tracys blog that shows the box with the slats, (bars). Also in Dennis's pics. :D
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Some of you people sure do stay up late!!!! I wake up around 10:00 even though I am at work for 7:00 AM.......What I shock to wake up here.........
LOL, Mother Hen!
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I saw what looked to be a Peregrine fly over my car a few days ago when I was sitting at the lights on Logan just West of Main Street. It was in hot pursuit of something and was fairly low, only about 3 stories up. I'm sure Tracy could have identified "who" it was. It was a bit of a surprise to see it there after all the time spent standing on Portage Avenue staring straight up with binoculars....is this part of their range? I guess I could also be wrong and it was a Kistral. I saw it long enough to see the feather pattern and size... but I'm not an expert.
Could have been either one of the Radisson peregrines, Logan & Main isn't that far away "as the peregrine flies" and they do hunt in the area. So long as you have the size right - think crow size or bigger when flying. If it was smaller than that, I would imagine it was a merlin as that is their hunting "height". Congrats!!
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Drat ! ! ! It sounds like I missed a great meeting yesterday. though I have found the nest ledge (or am I fooling myself?), I am not sure of the other places mentioned and would have loved the "tour". ???
I'm sure there'll be more chances Mouse! - Some people couldn't make the lunchtime gathering so there'll be an 'After 5' one at some point! ;D
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Well I am curious if TPC discovered yet if Trey and Princess had been digging at the bars on the chicks nest box? She mentioned she would be checking that out.
Didn't make it to the Radisson today, too (way too) much wind - 60 km/h with gusts to 80+. You have to at least double that on the roof of the Hotel. Will try Sunday or Monday.
I also wonder what that means if they have been. Territorial thing? Or they are trying to get inside the box?
Could be territorial, could be housekeeping, could be boredom or even curiousity. And yes, the birds can be very curious. I watched a captive-bred fledgling chick play with a pebble for about four hours before actually taking her (I think) first flight! It was hilarious, she'd pick it up with one foot, hop and toss it into the air then chase after it. And yes, I'm sure it was the same darn pebble/rock. Even when her three hack-mates had flown, she continued to "play" on her own. Can't say if it was just more interesting or she need to work off some of her anxiety (if they have it) before following her hack-sibs.
I seen the pictures but I don't think I really understood how that box worked. The chicks were inside the box. The adults were supposed to come and feed them through the bars? The bars were so the chicks would not fall out? What about to protect them from a predator as well, while they were unattended and not adopted by the adults? I think you already said that it was not to protect them from the adults as they would not have been harmed by any peregrines?
Pretty much all of that DeeDream. Without the parents there to protect them from whatever, I wasn't comfortable leaving them on their own, even when I was elsewhere in/on the Hotel, so the bars were to prevent the chicks from coming to harm but still allowing the adults access to them. And yes, the adults would have fed them through the bars - they are easily wide enough for the adults to reach through, but not wide enough for the still uncoordinated chicks to move between. The chicks were in the "inside" part of the box, that is the part of the box that can be access from the roof and where there is cover overhead. The "outside" part of the box is on the ledge that runs around the ledge on the outside of the Hotel's roof wall. The box also extends out off the edge of the ledge, basically in mid-air and about 25 stories above the building below and 30 stories above street level - so a big drop. And while we don't really have too much to worry about predators, I wasn't taking that chance. Nor was I taking a chance that the chicks would over-react if/when the parents came to visit - didn't want the chicks' excitement/defensive responses to perhaps cause and unintentional injury to them or to Trey and/or Princess. So bars. And its not a new idea, we use bars like this when we hack release (releases with out adult birds/not from active nests) and we and many other projects have recorded adult birds pushing food through to the chicks inside.
Does that help?
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And yes, it is suppose to be a sunny Sunday today!! Hard to believe given the current weather but here's hoping!
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It helped me ! :P thanks
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Sunny here today. Been working on my lifelist, reorganizing it. All done, now all I need to do is print it out lol
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Sunny here today. Been working on my lifelist, reorganizing it. All done, now all I need to do is print it out lol
"COULD WE HAVE A TONER AND PAPER DELIVERY TO EAGLE'S DESK,PLEASE. ASAP !" 8)
** yes that would be from the STATIONARY CLOSET ** :P
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LMAO Loriann you are just too funny!!!! You always make me laugh and smile, ty for that :)
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Looks like you and I are the only ones in the forum at present. We'll safeguard TPC's sandbox for when the partiers come home from their weekend away ;D
Oh there's bcbird, come join us and play in the sand :)
I spoke to soon there's two more people
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Hi there!
Just got back from lunch out with husband and my Mom. We are enjoying a hot sunny day here, also. Just about got all the cherries picked. We have two trees and I was glad to have a herd of teenagers over to help. They naturally do all the silly jokes related to gory injuries with cherry juice dripping all over. All I had to do was supply lots of cookies and milk, and that crew did almost the works. Took lots of them away too, which is good, because one can actually get tired of eating cherries, and I'm not interested in canning much anymore.
I think Liz is still at her 30th reunion. Must be a good party!
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Oh yeah that's right too Liz had her 30th Reunion this weekend. I am not sure I'd want to go to a High School renunion, too many people I'd rather not see lol I was the loner and the weird one and was bullied alot.
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Thinking I should walk over to the wobblin and wafflin room lol meet me over there for my next thought
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Good morning one and all! Back at work today to check on how the peregrines are doing after the wind and the rain.That was terrrible!! Felt like a winter storm if you didnt know it was summer out there. Went out with a sweater and jacket saturday night. Do the birds hide out in storms?? The weather was not fit for beast nor man I tell all of you that don't live here.No sighting as yet today but the sun is still in my eyes so can't really see that much as yet. Later!
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Sure hope they found somewhere to hide! - maybe the wind blew them to Saskatoon! :P :P - I guess they couldn't use the nestbox for cover if there are bars on it? ???
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Princess & Trey spent much of the afternoon on the east side of the Radisson. He on the sign, she on the ledge......nice to see them both! Couldn't see a lot of him, tucked under the sign, but got a good look at her!
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Another morning of rain!! Finally it has stopped and is drying up again. No luck in seeing the parents so far today. Probably on the East side of town. Will keep my eagle eye open and I am always ready for the spy glasses.
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Yes, keep an eye out MH!! - We need P&T to keep hanging out together so they remember to come back & be together again next year!!! ;D
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Hello all!!!
Just wanted to let the falcon phanatics know that at approx. 5:20 pm, I was driving west on Portage Ave and looked up to the east side nestledge.....and there he was!!!! Good to see you Trey! Keep guard!
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Yay!! ;D- Trey can hang out on that nest ledge all he wants - he's just not allowed to actually NEST there anymore!! :o
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Yesterday it was Princess on the ledge.....might have been her again today. Trey's been sitting up in the sign. Good they're still around, anyway!
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Yes I am glad someone sees them when I don't. I find it kind of sad when I don't see them......I guess after all these years I like to look up and see them flying around or on the ledge or on the letters. I can hardly wait until next year. More rain expected again today......When will it stop? When it starts to snow?? What a terrible thought.Talk to you later.
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Was it Princess?? Sorry about that, I was driving and looked up and couldn't see all that great! Then, it must have been her again on the ledge this morning (7:45am)! Still good to see you Princess....I'll keep my eye out for Trey on the Radisson sign!
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I'm pretty sure it was Princess - we're at about the same height & I had a good look with the binocs......as TPC can attest however, I've been known to be wrong! I'm only sure when I get a really good look at her chest!!
There was a bird there today for a bit, and I think it was Trey but wouldn't bet on it!
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More rain expected again today......When will it stop? When it starts to snow??
Totally true, Mother Hen! Have we not had more rainy days than sunny ones since the beginning of May? Will summer ever actually arrive?? Sheesh!
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What??? you didn't like our one day of summer... aaahhhh it was magnificent... too bad it only comes once a year!!! LMAO ;D
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Oh, it's not that bad. We always get a day of Indian summer before it starts to snow. :)
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ROTFLOL!!!! right mouse forgot that... see we have one more day to look forward to before the dreaded four letter word shows up again.!!! :D
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Not raining as yet today.......I think my toes are starting to web........OH NO! Supposed to rain later today,my what a surprize! No sighting as yet today and I didn't see them at all yesterday. Any one on the East side spot the peregrines? I wonder if the noise from the hydro building scares them? Every now and then I can hear the banging myself. Should be over soon enough. Talk to you later
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Hi TPC and all,
Thanks for keeping those of us outside Winnipeg up-to-date on Princess and Trey's daily activities. Though I have not been logged in, I have been lurking about the forums getting my fill of sightings, gossip, peregrine health reports (I was very worried about Princess after what she weathered trying to protect her chicks), and the related links - loved the National Geographic speed video.
Here in the East we do not have peregrines, but we do have osprey - a fishing raptor (http://www.avianweb.com/ospreys.html). Within a few minutes' walk of where I live there are two nests. This year's babies have recently fledge. They can be distinguished by their colour and their vocalisations - they chirp rather than screech.
We have also been witness to some wild fights between the osprey and the bald eagles in the area. The eagles will steal osprey babies form the nest. Barn owls are another predator, but we do not seem to have them in this area of NS, though they have decimated nests within an hour's drive.
Watching osprey fish, like watching peregrines hunt, is fascinating. They glide over the water looking for schools of fish and, once spotted, start doing tight spirals upward to gain altitude and select their final target, and then they dive. Just like the peregrines, it is a bullet-like drop from the sky to the water and an incredibly loud smack when they hit. They stun and grab their prey, rise to the surface, and do a "flutter" a few feet above the water where they flip the fish from a horizontal hold to forward-facing to make flying more aerodynamic, and they are off.
Hope you are all well. Thanks for keeping me in the loop (and entertained). Cheers.
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We watch Osprey fish on Shuswap Lake. Just as you describe, Three, the spectacular catch is followed by that juggling of the fish before the flight back to the nest. Last summer we saw one osprey, possibly a juvenile learning the technique, lose the hard won prey during the foot flip. It's quite a show!
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Three, thank you for that amazing description! I could totally imagine it. You should be a writer. Maybe you are...
And if we haven't said it already, welcome to our little den of kookie-ness! Oops (Loriann smacked me with her wing), I mean -- closet of kookie-ness!
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Liz.. go to the closet and face the corner. (this is the PUNISHMENT CLOSET ( which has a small connection to the FETISH closet) ).
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LOL, Loriann!!
(And doesn't it actually have a large connection? ;) Ya know, the whips and all. Or was a whip just in my head and it really didn't come up in conversation?? Maybe it was just my imagination from thinking about leather! lol)
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yes it does. but i was trying to be gentle on our younger members..lol.. ( I'm not going to be the one to explain the whips and leather connections.. hee heee).
we're going to be banished to the punishment closet when tracy gets back. lol
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Sorry, Liz, I think I brought up the whip thing. I was confused about what kind of thongs Loriann had in her Headbanger closet.
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LOL! No worries, bcbird or Lorian. I'm begging off and TPC can smack you two with her shovel! "I was just trying to remember!" LOL ;D ;D ;D
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Here in the East we do not have peregrines, but we do have osprey - a fishing raptor (http://www.avianweb.com/ospreys.html). Within a few minutes' walk of where I live there are two nests. This year's babies have recently fledge. They can be distinguished by their colour and their vocalisations - they chirp rather than screech.
Thank you for the link and description, Three. What a fierce looking bird! It's hard to imagine such a large bird diving into the water like that (a city girl am I). It much be an amazing sight!
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Sorry. I messed up with the quoting. :P I'll have to go back to the lesson that I saw somewhere in the forum. But where oh where! ???
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Don't worry Mouse. We have all had to learn.
Try the Technical section, I think Deedream had some questions answered there.
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Thanks Liz. I am very fortunate to have an abundance of wildlife in my immediate surroundings. Below is a video of a juvenile osprey at a rescue. I haven't been able to find a video that does justice to the hunting/diving we see here by the ocean. Most of the videos show opportunistic osprey sitting in a tree and dropping to a lake for an easy kill.
Birds: osprey, bald eagles, red-tailed hawk, morning doves, seagulls, cormorants, a variety of ducks and geese depending upon the time of year, hummingbirds, finches, bluejays, robins, canaries, swallows, crows, and ravens.
Critters: raccoon, porcupine, fox, rabbits, an assortment of amphibians, and deer...lots and lots of deer. Last week the mother & father of twin fawns brought their babies out and presented them to us. We had about five minutes of viewing 15 metres (roughly 40 feet) from our fingertips - thankfully the dog was snoozing and totally oblivious. :)
Juvenile Osprey (orphaned and at a rescue in Georgia)
The markings on this bird are somewhat different from those here in the East, but close enough for comparison sake. Notice the vocalisations, too, they change as they mature.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6PzMMrvjhMQ
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I watched the osprey video and that was something! amazed they let people that close to them. Do you think the peregriens would let people that close?? Curious. Wild life is something else!! All I have at home is a ferrett and two dogs to amuse me......Oh that is not including my husband. Later
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Normally osprey, like peregrines, do not like humans anywhere near - though, as we have seen through watching Tracy do bandings and Kyle's rescue, they will tolerate human intervention that does not seem to threaten the young.
In the previously linked video, Stoop (the star of the video) was actually one of three juvenile osprey that were orphaned. A rehab group, like those associated with the peregrines, took in the babies and were raising them to adulthood. Presumably they would help the osprey learn how to hunt and survive before being released back to the wild.
BTW, one of the people speaking in the background was cautioning that she might take a chunk out of the feeder's hand (the guy with the medical clamp). Sounds like an early, built-in protection instinct to me! :)
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Hello
Is Tracy on vacation??
Been on again off again with the forum......but it's ineresting reading...you guys are having fun!!!!!
Have a robin's nest in my garden with 3 eggs that are about to hatch...it's been great to watch the comings and goings of Momma & Pappa.Mostley it's been Momma but today Pappa is around a lot so I think baby robins will soon be here.I also have 2 cats but thankfully they stay indoors.We need to be quiet while we're out there or momma gives us a "talking" to. I like to think they are my "falcon chicks"
We have great weather here now so I hope the babies comes soon.
Take Care
Marie
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I gather Tracy had been having computer problems and really really busy. I do wonder if she does ever take a vacation?
From the Peregrine Chick: not really ;)
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I know that there isn't much going on at the Radisson right now, but am going to leave these "daily" (now weekly) chat threads active just so that folks are that are interested in new Radisson news or whatever will still be able to recognize where to go ...
Enjoy,
The Peregrine Chick
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Has anyone seen Princess or Trey lately?
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Thanks, TPC.
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I know that there isn't much going on at the Radisson right now, but am going to leave these "daily" (now weekly) chat threads active just so that folks are that are interested in new Radisson news or whatever will still be able to recognize where to go ...
Enjoy,
The Peregrine Chick
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Thanks, TPC.
I still never see our couple, either flying around or on the tower at the hotel. Rats!
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Going to see if I can't get our spycam reconnected in the next few days (Hey Larry the Accountant! ;D) so that I can hunt up our favourite birds. Since Pam is on holidays right now, we are missing half our voyeurs at the Hotel. Mother Hen does a great job, but if the birds don't hang out on her side of the Hotel, not much she can do about it!! With the spycam, I can keep an eye on them again - and I'm sure CBC and Shaw will like having their traffic cam reconnected. :D
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Hm, I don't s'pose we get to see the spycam view huh TPC? :P :P :-\
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Would be nice if the spy cam could be live.
Has anyone sited Princess or Trey lately?
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Hm, I don't s'pose we get to see the spycam view huh TPC? :P :P :-\
Unfortunately not, and not because I wouldn't want to share it with you. The camera hardware doesn't like to talk to the website software so we can watch it online (and I take photos with it) but we can't stream it live to the web. When we used it back in 2006, we had the image refreshing every 15 or 30 seconds but it had to go from camera to Shaw to Gatewest (my old internet provider who offered to capture the image every 15-30 seconds for us) to CBC.
So, its just me and the CBC traffic guy ;) I get it back up and running, I will take photos just like the beginning of the season (pre-ledge cam).
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Tracy, have you seen anything with the traffic cameras.
Just wondering if anyone has seen Princess and Trey lately.
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Hey Moonstar - had hoped to have the spycam reconnected by now, but no such luck. Did see one of the birds downtown the last time I was there, though I couldn't say for sure who it was. Will see if I can take some time this week and camp out down there for awhile and report back on what I see. If I can get the camera reconnected, then all the better.
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Thanks for the response Tracy.
I was downtown yesterday but did not see Princess or Trey. I most likely do not know where to look and of course without binoculars you can't see much.
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Hi All,
I haven't been online in awhile but have still read a lot of the posts as a "guest". Just wanted to comment that I saw Princess last week (Wednesday Aug.6th) in a residential area hunting for food! It was in Norwood Flats area where I was visiting at approx. 6:30pm and she made her presence known about 15 feet over our heads (thinking she just missed her target little bird) as we were sitting outside enjoying a glass of wine noticing quite a few alarm calls from every bird in the area! Well, I knew it was Princess right away as she flew over (due to her markings), so I quickly ran out and watched where she landed. She landed at the highest point on a maple tree searching for her supper! It was an awesome sight! Needless to say, all the other birds did not like her being there! She quickly flew up and started circling in the sky, going south toward the river with the wind! She is a beauty! I was also told yesterday that Princess was spotted again in the Norwood Flats area by the same group of people I was with on Wednesday!
As for Trey, I thought I saw him on the East side nest ledge the other morning!! However, I was driving and didn't get a close look, but it looked like him! Good to know that they are still in their territory!
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Lucky you, allikat! I am SO envious. :D
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Was driving back past the Radisson's west side about 9:30 am this morning and saw a bird perched on the nestbox. Dark back so probably one of the adults facing inwards.
Mother Hen - can you see anything out your window? (if you aren't on holidays enjoying the weather of course) *TPC makes note to check when MH was last online*
I haven't been on the roof since July, guess I should go have a wee peak .... :-\
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Just spoke with Mother Hen and she reports two birds sitting on the west side of the Hotel. I've asked her to confirm they are the adults as the juveniles from across Canada are starting to move in advance of migration ....
Will keep you informed ... and Mother Hen will probably touch base yet too today ...
The Peregrine Chick
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Oh its just not fair when you have horses rather than the zebras you want ....
(for those of you too young to know the saying it goes like this ... "if you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras")
The two birds turned out to be pigeons ... fat, smug, taking-advantage-of-our-peregrines'-nestbox, ought-to-be-lunch-with-a-side-order-of-fries, pigeons.
... :'( I wanted zebras .....
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Bah. We also had a pigeon sighting in the Elk River nestbox. Would be interesting for the peregrine to come back when that's happening! Zebras snacking on horses.
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The two birds turned out to be pigeons ... fat, smug, taking-advantage-of-our-peregrines'-nestbox, ought-to-be-lunch-with-a-side-order-of-fries, pigeons.
LOL.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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!!!!! Oops, the little buggers.
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Just back to work yesterday.......poor me *expecting many sighs of understanding*....
My coworkers report that for the last couple of weeks of July, both P&T were seen on the nest ledge and on the ledge across the street from us. Lately, not too many sightings. However, as I was leaving the building today, I saw either P or T on the ledge, definitely not a pigeon! Will keep my eyes peeled!
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Will keep my eyes peeled!
Oohh! That's gonna hurt ;D LOL
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no sacrifice too great......
and no sightings today!
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nothing today either.....
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Princess was on the ledge as I was leaving work today........
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A new week and Mother Hen and Pam are back at their windows!
The Peregrine Chick
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Yup!
Saw a falcon (not sure who, though I'd guess Trey) on the Radisson sign this morning (on the 'a'), and Princess was on the ledge again around 4:30 - she's been there at that time a few times now. Very windy up there today, her feathers were a-flying!
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I can confirm that!!!
I saw a falcon on the East side nestledge this afternoon on the way home @ approx. 4:50 pm...couldn't tell who but probably Princess!
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Had a good look from the office, and it was Princess on the ledge (definitely not Trey). I can't ever be sure when I see them from street level, but from my 'office vantage point', it's much easier!
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Had a good look from the office, and it was Princess on the ledge (definitely not Trey). I can't ever be sure when I see them from street level, but from my 'office vantage point', it's much easier!
From the street, look at their breasts - Trey's is white and HUGE compared with Princess'. And frequently you can see the speckles right up to her chin even from the ground if she and the light are cooperating ...
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I have no problem as long as I get a 'full frontal view! I thought it was likely Trey on the sign - much smaller, however he didn't cooperate and turn around for me!
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I really do try to get a good look to see if it's Trey or Princess on the ledge, but since I'm driving, I can really only take a quick glance, probably take more than I should, but I'm lucky if I can get a good look at the chest. However, I do get a great look at a head! :D
People probably think I'm crazy when half of my body is hanging out of the window to get a look at our falcons! My body hangs out to take a look at the East nestledge and I twist and turn right around to see if anyone is hangin' around at the nestbox! :P
I'm really happy to know that the two of them are still hangin' out in their territory to keep it their territory! I've got everything crossed for the hopes that the handsome Trey returns for another courtship with his lovely Princess!
Hey Tracy...do you happen to know if the Radisson has rooms named after Princess and Trey?? If they don't, that would be a great idea and perhaps to make it a conservation room where if one stays at the Princess and/or Trey suite, money is donated to the Falcon Recovery Project!
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To continue from above....
Or even any suites named after any of the falcons who made The Radisson their home??? Madame, Maud, Pop, T-Rex (okay a room named T-Rex might be a bit much) but I just think that would be wonderful!
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It seems like Princess usually sits on the right hand side outer part of the ledge much of the time. Trey often is on the drain/leaf-catcher thing, so he can be hard to see from the street (especially from a car)!
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Yay, for having back Motherhen and Pam keeping close watch. It is so heartening to know there are regular sightings of Trey and Princess
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I really do try to get a good look to see if it's Trey or Princess on the ledge, but since I'm driving, I can really only take a quick glance, probably take more than I should, but I'm lucky if I can get a good look at the chest. However, I do get a great look at a head! :D
People probably think I'm crazy when half of my body is hanging out of the window to get a look at our falcons! My body hangs out to take a look at the East nestledge and I twist and turn right around to see if anyone is hangin' around at the nestbox! :P
I'm really happy to know that the two of them are still hangin' out in their territory to keep it their territory! I've got everything crossed for the hopes that the handsome Trey returns for another courtship with his lovely Princess!
Hey Tracy...do you happen to know if the Radisson has rooms named after Princess and Trey?? If they don't, that would be a great idea and perhaps to make it a conservation room where if one stays at the Princess and/or Trey suite, money is donated to the Falcon Recovery Project!
There is one room, The Peregrine Room - its a meeting room on the 12th floor - actually, its the room with the weird window who's roof is this year's nest ledge. Its only one of two of the Hotel's meeting rooms with windows and its a great room. If anyone visits the restaurant on the 12th floor, its the room right beside the restaurant. None of the "sleeping" rooms is named, just the meeting rooms, and I don't imagine that that will change any.
Nice idea though.
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Perhaps the room could use some pictures of each of the notable Radisson peregrines?
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No sightings today......it was very windy up there!
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Hi Tracy...
I did actually know about the meeting room being named "The Peregrine Room". But thanks for responding with the explanation. I just kinda thought since some hotels in other cities have theme rooms to raise awareness for breast cancer as well as prostate cancer...that maybe The Radisson would of maybe ever thought about even naming a suite after one of their Falcons or to raise the issue that there is a recovery project for them to the public and not just in the meeting room. I was just sorta writing down some thoughts ;D
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I like your idea Allikat.
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Tracy have you heard how the chicks are that Trey and Princess did not want to adopt. Just wondering if they were released in the wild or not.
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Hey Moonstar, looks like you & I are close to hatching and becoming chicks!
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Both birds there right now, he on the sign, she on the ledge.
Tracy - Princess looks ...... sort of discoloured on the breast, dirty, dishelelled? I thought it was just me, but everyone here agrees she looks different. Is that normal? She is sitting quite happily, it seems.
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Princess is on the building ledge right across from me, seems happy enough!
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Both birds there right now, he on the sign, she on the ledge.
Tracy - Princess looks ...... sort of discoloured on the breast, dirty, dishelelled? I thought it was just me, but everyone here agrees she looks different. Is that normal? She is sitting quite happily, it seems.
Do these birds moult at some point? I've heard of other birds moulting, have a period when they can't fly - doesn't seem like that would be reasonable for birds that catch their meals on the wing - but could she be losing a few old feathers? I've never been lucky enough to see them, so wouldn't know if anything was different. Just a wild guess.
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They do molt but not in the same way as some birds. Mallards for instance totally molt where as Peregrines and other birds of prey molt a few feathers at a given time so as they don't become prey themselves.
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Actually had a wonderful day of peregrine watching - Princess sat right across from me most of the day, and Trey was just a little ways down the ledge. Lots of preening and looking around........
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...any way you can get me into your building/office :)
Cheers !
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Both birds most of the day again today, wonderful. Tracy - could the discolouration be blood from prey?? We were wondering that today....
Dennis - we'll talk!
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Has it ever been quiet the last few days. I had hardly anthing to read. Glad that Pricess and Trey are still being seen downtown. I guess they will be leaving soon to fly off to a warm place for the winter. It seems like next spring is so far away.
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Have seen one or the other (Trey today, I think) quite a bit (on and off) for the last two days - sitting on the nest-ledge and/or sitting on the building ledge across from us. Nice!
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Sooooo glad our couple is still around!!! - I'd been wondering if they'd left the area or not. Good sign for next season - fingers crossed!!!! ;D
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I know I don't post very much on this board, but have been reading the posts on and off. Glad that you're able to watch Trey and Princes and give us updates. It feels good knowing that they are still around, gracing us with their presence. ;D
Miss not seeing them via the webcam. *sigh*
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I spent an 1 1/2 hrs. checking buildings and waiting for one of the pair to land on the building across from Pam today...no luck. I had high hopes as Pam has seen them for the last couple of days.
I guess they where on Peregrine time and not mine...it's not the first nor the last time I go home empty handed...(
Perhaps tomorrow ???
Cheers !
Dennis
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A very quiet day - not one sign of either Princess or Trey.....we'll hope for better results tomorrow!
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Both Trey & Princess around this afternoon. Nice to see them both! Princess was commanding the street from the edge of the nestledge, and Trey was hiding up on the Radisson sign.
PS Welcome back, Tracy!
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I was SO happy today to see someone sitting on the nestledge at about 4:15 p.m. I was on the bus on Graham, so I couldn't see who. Thanks, Pam -- now I know! I have seen almost nothing of them this summer. Last summer, I saw them all the time. Not being attached to the building by chicklets sure makes a difference!
Anyway, glad they're still hanging on to/out in their territory!
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A couple of brief sightings today - one on the nestledge, hard to be sure which! We guessed Trey, but he usually likes to sit on the drain thing and she likes the edge.
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Trey was around pretty much all day today, looking good.
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Dennis drove by the Radisson yesterday and the day before and there was a bird sitting happily right on the nestbox on the west side of the Hotel. With all the songbirds going through the week before last and now the geese, I fear we will see the last of Trey and Princess sooner than we would like .... :'(
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With all the songbirds going through the week before last and now the geese, I fear we will see the last of Trey and Princess sooner than we would like .... :'(
... until next spring.
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Tracy, what would you estimate to be the 'departure' date for Trey and/or Princess? Last year, I think we saw activity well into September, but that was mostly Hurricane, Mistral & Chinook I think......
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Usually the chicks leave first in my experience, the adults stay later. Interestingly enough, except for Madame who used to overwinter here, the bird that remained latest was the one that hatched on the building. Now in the Radisson case, that's always been the males, but as I recall Burnsie was a female of ours who came back to nest and she was the last one at a nestsite she had with an unbanded male ...
When do I expect them to leave?
Short answer: as long as the weather remains good, they don't "have" to leave.
Longer answer: The weather is good, the eating is good (it keeps flying by) so we could see them into October if the weather stays like this. They will follow the prey, then leap frog them further south. Peregrines can take a week to fly from Mexico to Wood Buffalo in northern Alberta but that I think is pretty quick. I do know that one of the U of M chicks (one of T-Rex's) was last spotted in Winnipeg a month before it was spotted on a beach in Veracruz Mexico. How reliable is that sighting? The chick was observed by participants at an international peregrine falcon recovery meeting. They sent us a postcard with the bird's location circled on the photo of the beach. Cracked me up actually.
The geese are moving but I don't know if they are staging here as the eating is good or if they are actually making concerted efforts to head south. I found a real-time GIS mapping software on a hunting website, but so far no one has submitted any information on the migration yet - could have something to do with hunting season start dates which I don't know about, or something. Its a new find, but I'm going to keep an eye on it as it looks pretty cool .... from what I read/see, its suppose to update every 15 minutes, so as long as folks submit data, the map should change frequently. You also have a choice of things to look at i.e., all waterfowl, dark geese, light geese (I assume that's feather colour), puddle ducks, divers and teal.
Here's the link if you want to keep an eye on it too: Waterfowler.com's National Migration Mapping (http://www.waterfowler.com/inportal/index.php?env=AD3A6FC4E5FD-map-:l-1-1-:bb-4-1-1-1-1:n-2-1-1306:s-3:m-1-:img-5-1-1-1-1-#)
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I have been wondering if there are any Canadian web sites that are tracking peregrine migration?
I have been checking in on the Ospreys being tracked by the Highland Wildlife Foundation from Scotland and it is fascinating to follow the migration route in detail. The technology is pretty impressive. Solar powered transmitters provide hourly, accurate GPS, as well as readings of direction, speed and altitude. This is combined with, I think they said, Google Earth Plus. Of course, there is a downside, as there are not always happy endings, especially for the juveniles.
The only Canadian website that I have found that has any migration information on peregrines is Big Frank's raptor watch in Scarborough. There is a daily count of the raptors passing through. Of the 5,845 counted last year, 72 were identified as peregrines.
http://raptorwatch.blogspot.com
Does Alberta report on the birds that they have been tracking?
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The only Canadian website that I have found that has any migration information on peregrines is Big Frank's raptor watch in Scarborough. There is a daily count of the raptors passing through. Of the 5,845 counted last year, 72 were identified as peregrines.
Frank is the person I was paired with during the fledge watch here in Etobicoke, really nice guy and extremely knowledgeable about birds. I was supposed to go down this weekend to help him with the migration watch but we are rained out so I didn't go..hopefully next weekend!
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I have been wondering if there are any Canadian web sites that are tracking peregrine migration?
I have been checking in on the Ospreys being tracked by the Highland Wildlife Foundation from Scotland and it is fascinating to follow the migration route in detail. The technology is pretty impressive. Solar powered transmitters provide hourly, accurate GPS, as well as readings of direction, speed and altitude. This is combined with, I think they said, Google Earth Plus. Of course, there is a downside, as there are not always happy endings, especially for the juveniles.
The only Canadian website that I have found that has any migration information on peregrines is Big Frank's raptor watch in Scarborough. There is a daily count of the raptors passing through. Of the 5,845 counted last year, 72 were identified as peregrines.
http://raptorwatch.blogspot.com
Does Alberta report on the birds that they have been tracking?
There are a few birds that have transmitters on them, most, if not all, from Alberta. If you want to find out how difficult it is to actually get a transmitter on a peregrine, check out the Edmonton, Alberta thread - they tried to catch Radisson, the female in Edmonton this year, to put a transmitter on her and she was having none of it! Tried a couple of times as I recall. They (Alberta & CWS) do track these peregrines' migration but they don't have a website or GIS tracking for them.
As for hawkwatches (as they are frequently called) they happen at all key raptor migration routes across the country - we have a couple of locations in the Pembina Valley where the elevation and topography makes for the perfect route for raptors and for folks to watch them - the latter because the route causes the birds to travel along a narrow flyway and the result is you can count hundreds of birds at a sitting. Local birders that stake out these locations usually email their sightings so if y'all are interested, I'll post raptor sightings as I receive them as I'm on the list. I'll start a new thread tonight and post as they come in. I'm not sure if there is a blog similar to Frank's for Manitoba, but I'll have a look around ...
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The only Canadian website that I have found that has any migration information on peregrines is Big Frank's raptor watch in Scarborough. There is a daily count of the raptors passing through. Of the 5,845 counted last year, 72 were identified as peregrines.
Frank is the person I was paired with during the fledge watch here in Etobicoke, really nice guy and extremely knowledgeable about birds. I was supposed to go down this weekend to help him with the migration watch but we are rained out so I didn't go..hopefully next weekend!
Wow Carly, this sounds great. Please let us know what happens next weekend. :)
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Saw lots of both Princess & Trey today, both sitting on the ledge across from me.
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The biologists send me the migration information as our peregrines with tracking devices head out until they are in place. i do believe it might be posted on the Edmonton site if the web people are up to it. I can feed the information as I have it if you want.
I would really like to know where our wee girls will head ???
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I am so glad to hear that Princess and Trey are still around. Tracy mentioned seeing the geese. I don't know if it is any kind of an indicator, but the geese don't appear to be heading south at the moment. Very early this morning when I let my dogs out in west Winnipeg shortly after dawn, there was small group after small group of geese flying low overhead heading northwest in a very leisurely fashion. I can only assume they were going out for breakfast. I watched for about five minutes, and then when I went out over an hour later the scene was the same so I am thinking that there must have been several hundred. They were flying very low, almost at treetop level, and the morning sun was lighting up their breasts.
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maggieblue, thanks for the good picture you painted. :)
I know I heard the first geese early Monday the 1st. I've heard or seen them several days each week since then. I took it to mean an early winter. Hopefully they are just staging, and not leaving yet. It'll sure change "observation night" plans at Fort Whyte if they leave soon!
TPC, thanks for the website. I will add it to my favourites.
I haven't seen T or P since last week. Glad to hear (why don't we say "read"?) they're still around. ;)
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Have just added some more photos of the Radisson Birds...both Trey and Princess.
http://www.pbase.com/photosbydennis/peregrine_2008
Cheers !
Dennis
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Nice pictures Dennis! Did we ever find out how those 2 little cutie foster chicks made out? Apologies if it was already posted but I must have missed it - I hope they were able to find a new home for them and that they fledged successfully.
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I have been wondering if there are any Canadian web sites that are tracking peregrine migration?
Does Alberta report on the birds that they have been tracking?
The Edmonton site follows the migration of the former female at the Edmonton nest, whom they nicknamed "Homeless" (she deserves a much better name than that), and a female from Calgary, both with transmitters. The former female from Edmonton winters in Colombia: it is amazing how far and how fast peregrines can travel.
http://www.falconcam.med.ualberta.ca/migration.html
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Tracy would be the one with that answer...maybe she can fill us in if she knows.
Did we ever find out how those 2 little cutie foster chicks made out? Apologies if it was already posted but I must have missed it - I hope they were able to find a new home for them and that they fledged successfully.
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Great pics...especially of those fat, well fed little chicks with their bulging crops. Thank you for sharing them with us.
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[The Edmonton site follows the migration of the former female at the Edmonton nest, whom they nicknamed "Homeless" (she deserves a much better name than that), and a female from Calgary, both with transmitters. The former female from Edmonton winters in Colombia: it is amazing how far and how fast peregrines can travel.
http://www.falconcam.med.ualberta.ca/migration.html
Thanks Alison. :) I am embarassed that I had forgotten about these pages :-[ Lots of great information there and I hope that they will provide updates for fall 2008 once the transmitter birds start migrating. I also loved the falcon story page with the account of the Calgary female who had a ride on a freighter. Talk about a migration adventure. ;D
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From my vantage point, zero sightings over the last couple of days......will keep you posted!
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I was out at Helens where the 2 chicks foster chicks form your nest came from. They were sent back to Helen and they wee put back with the adults. Unfortunately when I was there that was the one area I could not see because at that point they do not want to disturb th parenting process.
I could e-mail her and ask her where they ended up.
the bilogists call the Edmonton female homeless but I named her Miss Edmonton a few years ago. I belong to another forum and that is what we decided to call her. I go to see her every second day. She has not left for migration yet. I get all the migration results form the biologist also.
Do the Manitoba falcons migrate??
there is also a transmitter on a male from Fort Saskatchewan. he lost his original nest box this year but he ended up mating with a female not far off on a trestle bridge where there is also a nest box,. Peter and I went out to see it and there were 2 chicks there. I have pictures somewhere.
We are wondering if the transmitter is affecting their return as they come back so much later than the rest???
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Happy to hear that Miss Edmonton is still alive and well. I hope she finds a new mate and has some wee ones next year. At the very least I hope her and Radisson don't have a run in next year..talons crossed that both will have mates and nestboxes.
I'm glad the Fort Sask male also found a new mate and nestbox, that is very encouraging. I always read that they just end up being part of the floater population and I don't like to hear that..I like your ending better :D
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We are wondering if the transmitter is affecting their return as they come back so much later than the rest???
That really is interesting. Do other locations with transmitter carrying falcons have the same findings?
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the bilogists call the Edmonton female homeless but I named her Miss Edmonton a few years ago. I belong to another forum and that is what we decided to call her. I go to see her every second day. She has not left for migration yet. I get all the migration results form the biologist also.
We are wondering if the transmitter is affecting their return as they come back so much later than the rest???
Thank you for the news on the female with the transmitter, Bev. She has been one of my favourites since I first started watching the cam in its first year. Miss Edmonton is a much better name for her than "Homeless". She is a beauty, and she deserves to have her own nest. Are there any other nest boxes in the Edmonton area that she might use?
Interesting question about the transmitters - there could be so many factors involved in their return, I think it would be difficult to know for sure.
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Very quiet at the Radisson this week, though I saw Princess for about 20 minutes this afternoon.....
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It has been of interest for awhile why the transmitter birds are coming back later.
we will see where they go with this .
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This question all of you you know the answer to but I do not. Do your adults migrate???
any sihtings of your pair recently??
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I was away most of last week, but my coworkers tell me they did not see any birds at all.......I was in the office on Friday and had the same experience....will keep you posted!
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This question all of you you know the answer to but I do not. Do your adults migrate???
any sihtings of your pair recently??
Both the Winnipeg pairs have been observed this weekend but I don't know how much time they are spending in their respective territories, could just be that I got lucky.
As for migrating, yes, our adults migrate. Trey's mom (Madame) didn't migrate during the 10 years she was the resident female though.