MN / Oak Park - 2009-10

[carly]

ps: Thanks to kittenface for the tip to the above link with photos..typing too fast and tired..   

Time for bed for me.  I hope things work out here, I really do.

[carly]

Ok she's definitely an experienced mom.  Last year they had 5 eggs and only 2 hatched so this is not unusual for these 2.  Just have to hope the other eggs will be ok and they have a few successful hatches.

I'd recommend not watching anymore, it will be a miracle if that little one survives the night if she doesn't get up and tuck it under her brood patch.

[carly]

Yeah I saw her get up but the chick is still out in the open partially and going down to 3 degrees there. 

I'm searching on pair history now: so far the dad Brent is new, only his second season there.  She's been there a few years and I think she's about 10 years old or so they said.  I will keep searching on the net for more info.

[allikat]

I don't know why I do this to myself...Mom is at least realizing that the chick isn't covered most likely because it's chirping its beak off to say, UM, I'm cold, can you cover me up please?
Again..unless there is something we don't know.
Is this a young pair?

[carly]

Well according to their site where Nora just posted, it was dad who left the chick laying there in the cold and then mom came in and movedit over and partially covered it..they have shots here:

http://raptorresource.org/forum/index.php?topic=217.360

[allikat]

When the adult moves, I do see some movement from the little chick..maybe a shift change will get that chick tucked right under. 
Did you see that Carly...the adult knows the chick is there...trying to get the chick under...not sure what to make of this?
I really want there to be a shift change...

[carly]

Yeah you got me, never seen this before but I dont' have the years of watching experience most do.  Even young mums tuck the chicks under them...I wonder if it's even still alive at this point.

[allikat]

Come on momma or pappa...get that chick under your wing...what are you doing?

[carly]

Ok I finally see the chick.. That's not good, it's half out and half under the wing...it's a bit cold for a newly born hatchling to be uncovered.

[allikat]

I'm so confused at this site...the chick is there and alive but only partially covered???
It looks like the adult knows it's there and is trying to cover the chick and the eggs at the same time. 
I hate all of this drama...

[carly]

Ok I see the shell now but don't see a chick.  I wonder if she's going to have more problems, first a discarded egg then this.  Maybe the weather? 

Either way, I'm sure not easy for mom either.

[allikat]

Okay..never mind.

The view changed and now the chick is somewhat under the wing???
I don't get it.

[allikat]

Really?  What I can see is almost the exact same view as the Elk River cam..so you see the broken egg and the chick..

Why do I watch these cams? 
I guess mother knows best...again, there is something we don't know and they do...still, sad to watch a newborn moving and mom's just not even looking at he/she.

[carly]

Ok well they are recommending not to watch because if something is wrong mother will let it die as she knows it won't survive. 

Did the move the cam?  All I can see is the back of the mother, no egg shell or anything.

[allikat]

It's lying in the broken egg
Only way I know this is because I saw the white fluffy stuff move so I don't know what's going on